Sorry,
No racing for me tuesday I may stop out for a few but have to get ready for my vacation to new england. I wont be back till the second week of august. For some reason i hear cheering?:dude: Also thanks for all who came out tuesday night was large for practice, and put up with my kids! they will get better, just be patient with them. Also there were radio issues with people having radios on with out clips or having the wrong clips. I know the regulars should know this but there were a lot of new faces out as well.

Jay,

It is great that you are exposing the kids to racing. In a couple of years they should already be very good and still VERY young. However, maybe it would be a good idea to let them practice in a parking lot for a little while until they get a little more comfortable with driving a car. After this, they will be able to easily make it around the track. On tuesday it was nearly impossible for others to drive when the kids were out there.

Jay,

It is great that you are exposing the kids to racing. In a couple of years they should already be very good and still VERY young. However, maybe it would be a good idea to let them practice in a parking lot for a little while until they get a little more comfortable with driving a car. After this, they will be able to easily make it around the track. On tuesday it was nearly impossible for others to drive when the kids were out there. they are already racing in the Hobby town parking lot series and do better than they did tuesday. They have been running in a parking lot for 2 years and they do great in a parking lot. Its a totally different experience on the track as you should know being new, than running in a parking lot, THey have even turned a few laps on the dirt track in medina with there trucks. I understand it was tough for practice, but you tell me what better practice is there than running in traffic? good or bad.Also thats why its called open practice. I just ask for a little time and patience, once racing starts they will be in the novice class and you wont have to worry anymore. :drunk: Also that post looks a bit negative about our facility when we are trying to promte new people to the track. they wont be your first obstacle nor your last once the regular season hits. ;)

they are already racing in the Hobby town parking lot series and do better than they did tuesday. They have been running in a parking lot for 2 years and they do great in a parking lot. Its a totally different experience on the track as you should know being new, than running in a parking lot, THey have even turned a few laps on the dirt track in medina with there trucks. I understand it was tough for practice, but you tell me what better practice is there than running in traffic? good or bad.Also thats why its called open practice. I just ask for a little time and patience, once racing starts they will be in the novice class and you wont have to worry anymore. :drunk: Also that post looks a bit negative about our facility when we are trying to promte new people to the track. they wont be your first obstacle nor your last once the regular season hits. ;)


You bring up some good points. If I was running a touring car, I would not have cared. My 1/12 scale was getting hammered to the point that it was undriveable after being out on the track for a couple of minutes. I guess I'll just have to get a little better at dodging cars or get my touring car up and running. :)

Yeah, one of them hit me, and i got broke, but that is part of open practice, i remember when i just started at crcrc in columbus, i was on the track at the same time as the likes of Brian Dunbar, Jessie Robbers, Dave Montgomery, and a whole bunch of awsome drivers, not to mention taking out Matt Francis at practice at the big race down there. There is only one way to get better...PRACTICE.
-Buddy

Also there were radio issues with people having radios on with out clips or having the wrong clips. I know the regulars should know this but there were a lot of new faces out as well.
Jay,

Since this wasnt the morning before a big race or even a points race-you didnt have to make Adam get off the drivers stand-give you the clip so you could practice. I was standing there and was kind-of-taken back. All you had to do was say "Adam-youve got the wrong clip-please give it to me when your done running."

SOund good? Maybe you were caught up in the moment-but it was just a practice night.

Ray

Adam,


The kids did a great job marshalling for all of us too though. So it was a toss-up for sure. Bring on the kids!! if this gets to be a problem-theres no reason why with some chit-chat between Ray, you, me, Dave, Chicky, Joneser and Jimmy and Goetz that we couldn't have 10 minute sessions for 12th scales only. Heck-we all like to run w/ each other anyways to see how we stand.

Ray
You bring up some good points. If I was running a touring car, I would not have cared. My 1/12 scale was getting hammered to the point that it was undriveable after being out on the track for a couple of minutes. I guess I'll just have to get a little better at dodging cars or get my touring car up and running. :)

Jay,

Since this wasnt the morning before a big race or even a points race-you didnt have to make Adam get off the drivers stand-give you the clip so you could practice. I was standing there and was kind-of-taken back. All you had to do was say "Adam-youve got the wrong clip-please give it to me when your done running."

SOund good? Maybe you were caught up in the moment-but it was just a practice night.

RayYeah, I didnt realize how that sounded until it was just brought to my attention, I can be jerky sometimes without realizing it. Sorry Adam I did get caught up in the moment trying to take car of 2 kids and make sure they were going and then trying to get my car ready. Adams mistake was a simple one to make I have done it 89 and 68 get confused. Again sorry for being rude and abrupt. :rolleyes:

Yeah, I didnt realize how that sounded until it was just brought to my attention, I can be jerky sometimes without realizing it. Sorry Adam I did get caught up in the moment trying to take car of 2 kids and make sure they were going and then trying to get my car ready. Adams mistake was a simple one to make I have done it 89 and 68 get confused. Again sorry for being rude and abrupt. :rolleyes:

No hard feelings from me.

I was not there to practice so I cant comment on what went on. the only thing I ask is that when there are cars out there going 1 lap every couple of minutes...please dont leave them out there until they dump:p We have had a couple of people come over the summer that are learning and that is great. I have learned when to go out on the track. The problem is that a car going that slow can run for 20+ minutes.

I dont think Krisgels comments reflect poorly on the track...he had a concern and was not a jerk about it. Its great to get the kids involved and most of the time they will learn faster than us adults. That being said, we cant turn it into a zoo. That comment is not based on anything from Tuesday or at anyone!!!(i did not see or hear of any issues)..its just a reminder. My son will at some point probably want to race...I will expect he is not running around or in any danger of damaging someones gear. The first time it happens will be the last!!! People have alot of money tied up in this stuff and it should be treated like that. It is great that so many people turned out to the practice but we do have to keep in mind that there are all levels running there. Some are there to learn to drive while others are there to cut that .1 second off their lap. To me, it looked like there were way too many non-driving people on or infront of the stand to watch or do whatever. The stand should be free of people and when you are getting on and off the stand you should look to see where people are on the track. Morrow and I were running around and someone jumped off the stand to do something to their car and happen to jump down between Dave and his car making him have to stop or crash. This individual is not a new person. Just be considerate and dont do anything you would not do during a race. This fall, everyone should be getting better because we will have good competition at every level!

I may have to have you build me a motor next week. I have to see if the hype is legit. If it is then I too will have to act like a groupy....."buddy..buddy can you build me a motor....giggle giggle giggle:tongue:"

You have a PM

Me Too!! I am going to try and come with all my comms-cut next Tuesday-but maybe have the Man-Buddy put the magic touch on them-giggle, giggle, giggle!!:thumbsup:

I may have to have you build me a motor next week. I have to see if the hype is legit. If it is then I too will have to act like a groupy....."buddy..buddy can you build me a motor....giggle giggle giggle:tongue:"

Very cool answer!! But you still had to go sit on your behind and decide if you wait to go back up and finish the pack thats in the car-or take it out and also if you need to resauce your tires, wipe-em again.......No hard feelings from me.

Where are you Chuck Mackin....when are you coming to the track??? Bring out that 12th scale!!!!

LOL, my motors arent that good, brushes are the trick, along with a few other things i do to them. Nothing to it, just patience. I have got like 35 pairs of Paradigms which i hear are getting hard to find at the track, so it looks like that is one thing i got goin for my motors.
-Buddy

I can respect the time constraint on the track, i will keep it to 5 to 10 minutes like everyone else next time. they probably wont be able to make too many practices anyways especially when school starts, so they will just be there on sundays for novice class thats all. THe kids(not just mine, but Erics and Rays H. and others who have younglings ) are the future of this hobby. I can remember when i started in the hobby I was 7 and had a Tamiya grasshopper, it wasnt till associated came out with there first rc10 metal chassis car in the early 80's that i started to race, I had to have one the year they came out , saved my paper route money and bought one i think I was about ten. went to the local track and was a complete basket case, I am sure other people felt the same as some of you did tuesday night. But I am glad no one voiced it to me directly because it probably would have changed the direction of the hobby for me. I started flying r/c planes at age 12. the only thing I havent done much of is helicopters, but thats all about to change as well. I hope the things I teach the kids keeps them into the hobby for a lifetime. Its amazing how many people dont really have a clue whats out there with this stuff unless your connected by family or friend who is into it. thanks for all your input. And lets keep the turnouts good like tuesday.

I can remember when i started in the hobby I was 7 and had a Tamiya grasshopper, it wasnt till associated came out with there first rc10 metal chassis car in the early 80's that i started to race, I had to have one the year they came out , saved my paper route money and bought one i think I was about ten.

I got the grasshopper as my first car at age 11. I then moved on to the gold aluminum tubbed RC10 for my next car. I never knew of any tracks to race them at, but had a lot of fun running the cars up and down the street I lived on. Unfortunately this street driving was NOT at all helpful for when I started running at the gate. :freak:

Back when I started-there was a Street Weapon, followed by the IWC Street Weapon.

So 12th scale again n Tuesday-eh? Figures-I get my sedan really good and no one wants to run.... Everyone must be skeeered or something!! :lol:

Ray

I am gonna race sedan, unfortunatly the part i broke on Tuesday i dont have...so i have to spend 12.00 for the Losi part. Oh well.
-Buddy

I am gonna race sedan, unfortunatly the part i broke on Tuesday i dont have...so i have to spend 12.00 for the Losi part. Oh well.
-BuddyYour making me feel guilty;)

Scared? Nah. It's the BO that's scaring them away. :lol:

So 12th scale again n Tuesday-eh? Figures-I get my sedan really good and no one wants to run.... Everyone must be skeeered or something!! :lol:

Ray

P-UUUUU-whats that smell?


Scared? Nah. It's the BO that's scaring them away. :lol:

Losidude-I want to run only on class Tuesday as last week it was NUTS!! My 12th got steadily worse every run till it was all but indriveable in the third qualifier and Main and I (we) were all so busy running two classes-I didnt have a chance to find what was wrong with it. Turns out it was dirt simple-the tweak screws were backing off the chassis more and more every run. When I got home-you could flop the rear pod a mm in each direction-doh!!

But having babbled on about that-I do want to run Sedan w/ you, but theres going to be another great crowd of 12th scale stockers!! OH what to do.

I have a bet with GOetz about Sedan lap times too and if I win-FREE LUNCH next week-yum!!

Ray

What is the bet?
-Buddy

Check your PM!!What is the bet?
-Buddy

Jimmy, Did you get the e-mail I sent you?Tracy :cool:

Hey Jimmy, you got pm.
-Buddy

Jim, where are you check your PM and email dude. Dont worry about the tamiya TLT 1, But will the carbide cutter be in tuesday?

Jimmy is most likely in Toledo at the gas race...you guys have to remember that the hobbyshop is not a full time business, he goes to school and has a real job...not to mention his gas racing. He has yet to forget to order something.....chill a little:dude:

Eric-if you get updates from the GLC-could you e-mail or post them up here?

Any word on a Halloween classic 2004 ?????

I havent heard anything, but i would like to hear something soon....
-Buddy

Its on the fall schedule

More info than dates....lol.
-Buddy

Good morning Cleveland.

I guess it's about time I join in on the madness here. I don't expect to reach Ray's 2,650 posts, but I should be available to answer any questions regarding "The Gate", provided I have them.

The H-Classic will be a go and, as Mr.T pointed out, the tentative dates have been posted on the site. We know the Worlds are later in that month, and the Chicago Hobby Show and Expo appears to be the same weekend as we intend to run on. We're still unsure how affected we'll be by either.

Buddy, I'm not sure what other questions you have. And yes, you may spend the night that weekend. :eek: uh..

That was the other question Chris...lol, but yeah, I dont know, ill let you know if anything else comes to mind.
-Buddy

I talked with Paul for a few seconds this evening and learned that Paul won the A main in Gas Touring up in Toledo. He had qualified second behind Josh and was close behind when Josh broke in the main. Aaron was second in 8th scale while Jimmy and Kelly were in the B (I think).

AWSOME!!!I talked with Paul for a few seconds this evening and learned that Paul won the A main in Gas Touring up in Toledo. He had qualified second behind Josh and was close behind when Joshe broke in the main. Aaron was second in 8th scale while Jimmy and Kellyer were in the B (I think).

Goetz, are you a partner with Jimmy and Aaron now in the hobby buisness, or are you just the water boy?

Congrats to Chicky for running toe to toe with Josh Cyrul and winning the Great Lakes Challlenge! in 200mm! ALso to Aaron for bumping from the B to finishing second in the A-Main in 1/8th scale 4wd.

Congrats Chicky, Buran, and James. See you Tuesday.
-Buddy

Jimmy was battling at the beginnning of the race for the bump-up with Aaron I heard. I havent spoken with Bean yet to see how his weekend went.
If he was in the B then thats great as the GLC is growing to be one of the bigger gas races of the year. The track I hear is amazing too. Smooth an as always for Toledo-Super high grip.

I still wish we had a 1/10th scale asphalt track in Cleveland like that. Painted infield, big!!

Ray

Congratulations to the boys for their performance at the GLC. Aaron had run awesome here in Mentor the last few outings, but every time caught, what seemed like, the same board effectively ending his run. Way to hold it together Aaron. And Paul brings home a win in nitro sedan? Word.

Dave, partners? Jimmy calls us life partners, but I'm not sure what he's expecting of me. :eek: Honestly though, I have offered to help out with the track responsibilities as we start rolling into the fall season. With Aaron being a newlywed, and both himself and Jimmy racing a ton of 1/8th scale, it seemed a beneficial proposition. Until further notice, the hobby shop is still an exclusive posession of both Jimmy and Aaron. I don't aniticipate playing a role there, other than in assisting with transactions and perhaps being aware of parts outages. I do anticipate having an increased role in track functions, scheduling, and general maintenance. That having been said, I will try to get up to speed on the standard stuff, ie. j-lap.

Oh yes, The Gate will rule the earth this fall. :thumbsup:

"Life partners"....What is the sick racing scene coming to?!?!
-Buddy
And no....im not jealous....word

On more of a straight note. I will not be there tonight, gotta go to see what happens to my sister in court, and re-register for school, plus im broke as a joke....Good luck to anyone racing tonight. And Hoooo-Hong- you better win that bet...lol, good luck.
-Buddy

Dave, partners? Jimmy calls us life partners, but I'm not sure what he's expecting of me. :eek: Honestly though, I have offered to help out with the track responsibilities as we start rolling into the fall season. With Aaron being a newlywed, and both himself and Jimmy racing a ton of 1/8th scale, it seemed a beneficial proposition. Until further notice, the hobby shop is still an exclusive posession of both Jimmy and Aaron. I don't aniticipate playing a role there, other than in assisting with transactions and perhaps being aware of parts outages. I do anticipate having an increased role in track functions, scheduling, and general maintenance. That having been said, I will try to get up to speed on the standard stuff, ie. j-lap.
:thumbsup:
Way to step up to the plate Chris.

Oh yes, The Gate will rule the earth this fall. :thumbsup:
DAMN STRAIGHT!

Hey Jimmy i'll be there tonite but not till almost 7 p.m. please sign me up and i'll pay when i get there . Tom Barrett , touring stock , trans #3474227 , freq 81,80 . If there's any problems or questions you can call me 216-534-6822 . Thank you much and see everyone tonite .

Nevermind Jimmy I've got to work till 9 p.m. hope the racing is good see ya next week .

Good luck to anyone racing tonight. And Hoooo-Hong- you better win that bet...lol, good luck.
-Buddy
Yeah-I like FREE LUNCHES!! I am pumped about tonight. Jimmy-Chris-Eric..... all gunnin for TQ tonight. Yeah-baby!!!

I can pay your entry next race in trade for motor work and brushes for the night!! Theres really only two things in all of RC Racing I cannot stand doing. One is tearing down motors and cutting comms and the other is wiping that nasty Paragon off the tires.

Having said that I rebuilt three motors last night and the ones with the 767's that Jimmy just got in were looking good on the T35. I am thinkin if Paradigm brushes are on b/o still-the 767's are the way to go.

Ray