Does everyone in 1/12 scale run their batteries more than once a day for qualifing and mains, or is it a good idea to have one pack for each heat and main?I run at least one pack-sometimes two twice a day. Often they feel punchier on second run for me. Especially if I take them down to 3.6v and then tray them for 15 minutes and then thye get to coool off completely.

Ray

Does run time seem to be affected on the second run? I used to run only two packs in touring car all day, not including practice. Each pack charged twice a day. But of course run time didn't matter for touring. Will I sacrifice run time for "punch" on the second charge?

Yes-but only the stop watch will tell if it affects you. All 12th scales will be slower at end of run than at beginning, but your challenge is to minimilize that.
All the packs I have now run a a lot slower at end of run-but they are all 9 months old now!! So I only run twice my packs with greatest capacity-but even those are down to 370 seconds.

ON a decent new or new-ish pack-the second run should have no negative affects at all.



Does run time seem to be affected on the second run? I used to run only two packs in touring car all day, not including practice. Each pack charged twice a day. But of course run time didn't matter for touring. Will I sacrifice run time for "punch" on the second charge?

Who is talking about TQ....hell...I have 3,4,or 5 guys to get to before TQ...then I have to deal with Frankyrello. Mr. Tamiya is gunning for me....he better worry about the people between us first. I have made a huge jump in 12th scale and that gets me to 1.5 laps within Paul....I certainly better have goals between me and TQ:rolleyes:Yeah but joneser we go back a few years, I used to be ahead of you now your ahead of me! we cant have that now can we? LOL! ;)

All I am going to say is get used to it. Worry about Ray Adams or someone else cause I don't plan on letting that happen:wave: Yeah but joneser we go back a few years, I used to be ahead of you now your ahead of me! we cant have that now can we? LOL! ;)

All I am going to say is get used to it. Worry about Ray Adams or someone else cause I don't plan on letting that happen:wave: Ray Adams and I are runnin equal right now so now I am after you! No offense, but you are my quest! no playin this time :dude: I will be knockin on your back door sooner than you think ;) I am only a lap off, and yes I know what it takes to get that lap. this is why they call it competition WOOHOO!! Im gonna getchya! oh by the way I am talkin about TC not 12th. my 12th is a pile of pooh right now! I love racing rivalry!

I am not sure about you...talking about getting my backdoor. 1 lap is an eternity....and in 12th scale you better run 9 minutes if you are going to get there:p

I am not sure about you...talking about getting my backdoor. 1 lap is an eternity....and in 12th scale you better run 9 minutes if you are going to get there:p No i am takling about touring, but like i said I also havent been practicing all summer and had a sketchy last season:dude: we will just have to see whats delivered over the next few months.

In order to have a rivalry, you need two people that go back and forth beating each other. To the best of my knowledge, we dont have that therefore there is no rivalry. Its sort of like the Indians thinking the Yankees are a rival, the Yankees have won a bunch of rings while the indians have nothing to show for it since 48. To the Yankees, the Indians are just a little moskito that is bothering them. Rice, Huang, and Goetz are my current rivalries...once I dump them:cool: then it will be the next group of guys. 2 or 3 years ago when I first started...I was chasing you...with no luck I might add. At the champs that year you were talking smack about kicking my a$$ (which was no great feat)...I beat you one time on a heat that did not involve breaking or something and then you never showed up again. Now you have laps to make up before its a rivalry. And since you talked smack about beating a newbie, I will enjoy my current position a great deal and have some fun with it.:p Maybe you can call it a Goal or something. Just like my Goal is to beat Morrow or Chicky or Aaron. Until I beat them a few times without batteries dumping or parts breaking then it will be just a goal of mine. No i am takling about touring, but like i said I also havent been practicing all summer and had a sketchy last season:dude: we will just have to see whats delivered over the next few months.

In order to have a rivalry, you need two people that go back and forth beating each other. To the best of my knowledge, we dont have that therefore there is no rivalry. Its sort of like the Indians thinking the Yankees are a rival, the Yankees have won a bunch of rings while the indians have nothing to show for it since 48. To the Yankees, the Indians are just a little moskito that is bothering them. Rice, Huang, and Goetz are my current rivalries...once I dump them:cool: then it will be the next group of guys. 2 or 3 years ago when I first started...I was chasing you...with no luck I might add. At the champs that year you were talking smack about kicking my a$$ (which was no great feat)...I beat you one time on a heat that did not involve breaking or something and then you never showed up again. Now you have laps to make up before its a rivalry. And since you talked smack about beating a newbie, I will enjoy my current position a great deal and have some fun with it.:p Maybe you can call it a Goal or something. Just like my Goal is to beat Morrow or Chicky or Aaron. Until I beat them a few times without batteries dumping or parts breaking then it will be just a goal of mine.When did i say i beat a newbie? or were you talking about the nats that year? I am talking touring car here not 12th scale. any ways I am only playing with ya and trying to get your goat and it looks like it worked! LOL I still love ya Eric! no matter how we finish I am still glad to say I race with a good if not great bunch of guys oh and a few gals too! Oh and by the way here is the definition of rival just so you know! LOL ;) .Rival ri·valed, or ri·valled ri·val·ing, or ri·val·ling ri·vals or ri·vals
v. tr.

To attempt to equal or surpass.
To be the equal of; match:
Nothing about going back and fourth just ones desire to catch up to and possibly pass the other I am just being a pain in a_ _ you know right?

I am talking about the champs when you were thumping your chest to other people about kicking my a$$ (which at that time was absolutely nothing to be proud of). You did not get my goat....just stating facts. I am nothing special as a driver and I am extremely aware of that but I probably sound like a prick about this whole thing....just want to make sure that you understand that I am not real worried at this point:p When did i say i beat a newbie? or were you talking about the nats that year? I am talking touring car here not 12th scale. any ways I am only playing with ya and trying to get your goat and it looks like it worked! LOL I still love ya Eric! no matter how we finish I am still glad to say I race with a good if not great bunch of guys oh and a few gals too! Oh and by the way here is the definition of rival just so you know! LOL ;) .Rival ri·valed, or ri·valled ri·val·ing, or ri·val·ling ri·vals or ri·vals
v. tr.

To attempt to equal or surpass.
To be the equal of; match:
Nothing about going back and fourth just ones desire to catch up to and possibly pass the other I am just being a pain in a_ _ you know right?

I am talking about the champs when you were thumping your chest to other people about kicking my a$$ (which at that time was absolutely nothing to be proud of). You did not get my goat....just stating facts. I am nothing special as a driver and I am extremely aware of that but I probably sound like a prick about this whole thing....just want to make sure that you understand that I am not real worried at this point:p No need to be worried, was just letting you know my goals, and as far as chest thumping about that year at the champs was nothing for me to be that proud of either, I was thumping about Jay but not you, anyways. its all in fun anyways and you dont sound any more of a prick than usual! :thumbsup: LOL nobody can be in any competitive sport and not expect a little razzing! and you are good, you have come along way in 3 years. Keep it up and I may never catch ya!

Whats this about Dumping Rice, Goetz and Huang?!?!?!?! :lol:

I have never run with anyone who I can catch like there standing still-then when I get within one corner-have him (him=Eric) pull away till the buzzer. YOur fast alright-but only when you get the red mist!! hahaha!!

Yup-goals are Great. I have LOTs of goals-short term goals for NOvember 2004 and long term goals before I retire from RC cars.

I have no goals!

Yes Ray...that is the great mistery....why dont I run like that all the time. In the 12th scale main this week I was chasing Morrow and beign chased by Rice and I think we were gaining on Dave....then I make 1 mistake to let Rice by and lost touch....once that happens I just dont seem to cut the same lines. I guess I will get it someday. I am just glad I am bumper to bumper with some of these guys...a little more than a year ago I would be a lap or two down.:rolleyes:

By the way, I am taking it.
Whats this about Dumping Rice, Goetz and Huang?!?!?!?! :lol:

I have never run with anyone who I can catch like there standing still-then when I get within one corner-have him (him=Eric) pull away till the buzzer. YOur fast alright-but only when you get the red mist!! hahaha!!

Yup-goals are Great. I have LOTs of goals-short term goals for NOvember 2004 and long term goals before I retire from RC cars.

My only goal is to show up at the track every week or as much as possible,run the best that I can,and have fun with all of you racers i call my friends.Win or loose,it really doesn't matter as long as im having a good time.

YOur a great guy Ray and Zachs pretty darn cool too. YOUr driving the heck out of the RugRat and you look smooth doing it. YOu help to make out little corner of the Gate the riot it is.


uuummmmm...........speaking of 12th scale-does anyone want to buy my 12L3 with spare 12LC chassis and a One race old Airtronics 94145 servo installed and a few sets of TRC purple/Grey tires? I bought another 12th scale car am going to keep running it untill someone buys it and anyone who wants to test drive it-come out Tuesday night, July 20th.

Ray
My only goal is to show up at the track every week or as much as possible,run the best that I can,and have fun with all of you racers i call my friends.Win or loose,it really doesn't matter as long as im having a good time.

:freak: show up to hang out with us??My only goal is to show up at the track every week or as much as possible,run the best that I can,and have fun with all of you racers i call my friends.Win or loose,it really doesn't matter as long as im having a good time.

My only goal is to show up at the track every week or as much as possible,run the best that I can,and have fun with all of you racers i call my friends.Win or loose,it really doesn't matter as long as im having a good time. You said it Ray! I was just giving Eric a hard time!

Hey how are you? I knw for a fact I am not going to make it. Doubt I'll do even one out of town multi-day race this year. At least not more than 2 or 3 hours away.

Thats cool amigo. You goin to Chicago for the IMHE show?

Blackstocks doing well at onroad Nats in Portland. Two firsts in 12th and hes top ten in Sedan. If he wins the next round of qualifying-he can cruise to the TQ. The fact that hes got his 12th so fast on asphalt bodes well for the Worlds I would think.

Ray

Hi.

When using Trinity 4505NT Crosscut 99 Brush, do they need to be replaced if the serrations are completely worn off (this happened in 4 or 5 runs)?

Thanks,

Adam

In Sedan-yes. In 12th scale-I'll leave-em in till the motor plain old doesnt feel fast anymore. Just keep the rollout consistent for tire wear.

You e-mailed-me-the answer is simply to just build them again. Theres no easy answer on the shocks. A tiny rebound is better than air-so err to the rebound side and also-make all 4 feel the same as possible.

RayHi.

When using Trinity 4505NT Crosscut 99 Brush, do they need to be replaced if the serrations are completely worn off (this happened in 4 or 5 runs)?

Thanks,

Adam

Hey guys,
I have a quick question on springs. I am getting motors ready for Tuesday, the hand outs for the Nats. Since running 12th scale, Buddy thought that I should go to a lighter spring like, green-red, or green-green. Any help would be great. Thanks!
Jerry

Yup-grn, grn or red+ and grn- are good combos for 12th scale. But if Buddy s building you a motor-well then guess-what? YOur gonna have more yank then you will need!!!Hey guys,
I have a quick question on springs. I am getting motors ready for Tuesday, the hand outs for the Nats. Since running 12th scale, Buddy thought that I should go to a lighter spring like, green-red, or green-green. Any help would be great. Thanks!
Jerry

Practice tomorrow night everyone!!
I only have like...ummmm 4-cars to test!! hahahaha!!

Ray

Practice tomorrow night everyone!!
I only have like...ummmm 4-cars to test!! hahahaha!!

Ray i will be there and the kids are comming too to try touring on carpet they have been doin the parking lot thing, hey jimmy is there a discount on practice nights for families as well? would be helpful!

Hey everyone! I just wanted to let anyone know if they are looking for a automatic tire truer and dont want to break the bank, try integy's ! its about 190.00 and works great! arbors are extra but it comes with a bunch of cutter heads! it will work with ofna, hudy amd integy tire adaptors! Has auto feed forward and reverse, forward and reverse rotation of the tire, speed adjust and a nice case! just ask soem of the guys that saw it last race day when I picked it up! any questions just ask! AND jimmy can get it for ya real fast!!!!

Hey everyone! I just wanted to let anyone know if they are looking for a automatic tire truer and dont want to break the bank, try integy's ! its about 190.00 and works great! arbors are extra but it comes with a bunch of cutter heads! it will work with ofna, hudy amd integy tire adaptors! Has auto feed forward and reverse, forward and reverse rotation of the tire, speed adjust and a nice case! just ask soem of the guys that saw it last race day when I picked it up! any questions just ask! AND jimmy can get it for ya real fast!!!!


I have this tire truer, too. No complaints from me.

Most important part of the truer is the cutting bit. Tungsten Carbide is the best by far. If you look you can find them for the Cobra, Hudy, OFNA.....

Ray

Most important part of the truer is the cutting bit. Tungsten Carbide is the best by far. If you look you can find them for the Cobra, Hudy, OFNA.....

Raydoes jimmy carry or can he get them?

Jimmy, Goetz,

Will you allow brushless motors in Sedan modified at all club and points races?

Thanks,
Ray

Hey guys,
Ray, thanks for the info! Buddy and I where right about what we thought then. I can't wait to run one of his motors. I'm lucky, he worked on three. I can't wait for Tuesday!
Thanks,
Jerry

Jay,

Yes I can order them.

Ray,

Yes I think that is OK by me. But no brushless in stock.

Jim

hookupsxxx4,

The CE Powersupply GFX combo isn't available through distributors but I will make a combo price for you of $519.95 plus tax.

Thanks,
Jim

I might be there tomorrow, i dont know. All depends on my plans.
-Buddy

Jimmy,
That sounds like a really good price. Let me talk it over with my girlfriend,(we are thinking about moving), and I'll see what I can come up with in a week or so. I will talk to you more about it tomorrow night. Thanks Jimmy,
Jerry

Thanks for the props Ray, anytime you need any done, just give me a holler.
-Buddy

If you all hadnt noticed-the website for The Gate has been updated. www.clevelandcarpetracing.com

Who is up for getting together another bunch of people to run 1/12 Scale next week?

The layout is excellent for some really close racing! Who is in??

I am running both classes.

Hey Ray...how do you get any work done? Your always on here!! LOL My motors should be here next week...I'll let you know when they get here...I know you wanted two monsters.

EA

EA-sounds killer!!
Eric and Pete-I am going to run one class I think next club race. Probably Sedan, but you never know. I got a defective chassis on my new L4 so I am not usre if I will racing 12th scale-especially if my 12LC sells soon..

Ray

EA-sounds killer!!
Eric and Pete-I am going to run one class I think next club race. Probably Sedan, but you never know. I got a defective chassis on my new L4 so I am not usre if I will racing 12th scale-especially if my 12LC sells soon..

Ray

Are you telling me you don't have enough cars to show up and run all the qualifiers with a different car yet? Ray are you slacking over the summer?


Also it stills says Home of the 1st leg of the Triple Crown....Is that still old or is the Havoc race going to be the first round again?

Who is up for getting together another bunch of people to run 1/12 Scale next week?

The layout is excellent for some really close racing! Who is in??
Count me in! I've already put my foot down with the wife for next Tuesday. I may have to sleep on the couch when I come home that night, but i'll be there.

Expressman,

Believe it or not-I am down to "only":

BRP SC18
Hyperdrive 510 for sale
XRay
TC3
12Lc for sale
12L4 defective
Rev4
XXXT MF
Express

hahaha!! The IRS axle for the Rev4 is in the LC. I make my life so much more complicated then it needs to be!! BTW-the Express is still in a box. But I at least put oil in the shocks!! I want ot run it at CORCAR-but havent made it down there yet.


Are you telling me you don't have enough cars to show up and run all the qualifiers with a different car yet? Ray are you slacking over the summer?


Also it stills says Home of the 1st leg of the Triple Crown....Is that still old or is the Havoc race going to be the first round again?

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to say thanks to everyone who came out and practiced last night. I think we had about 20 people there or so. That is great. I think moving the events to Tuesday was a wise move. I hope everyone can make it next Tuesday to our points race. Thanks again!

See ya Tuesday,

Jim

It was great to have so many racers there. It was also fun to see a few guys and gals cars get better and better as the night went on as they made chnages and tested.

Pete and Eric-I just finished rebuilding my Rev4. I'll take it for a spin Tuesday and if its good-I might run 12th with you all too.

Ray

I am just running 1/12 stock tuesday.

Paul

Sorry,
No racing for me tuesday I may stop out for a few but have to get ready for my vacation to new england. I wont be back till the second week of august. For some reason i hear cheering?:dude: Also thanks for all who came out tuesday night was large for practice, and put up with my kids! they will get better, just be patient with them. Also there were radio issues with people having radios on with out clips or having the wrong clips. I know the regulars should know this but there were a lot of new faces out as well.