Hey jonser dont you have one of these trucks? how do you like it? Chris wants one, was wondering what you thought!(scarey thought)LOL!:p

What does the shorter upper control arm mount do compared to the taller one? does it just effect roll center? or will it do other things, i.e. more steering or less? thanks!

I do have the new Tamiya truck but it is unbuilt. I have driven one and it is awesome. Much better than a mini T! can handle some good terrain and can be fast. It uses a regular size motor!

I do have the new Tamiya truck but it is unbuilt. I have driven one and it is awesome. Much better than a mini T! can handle some good terrain and can be fast. It uses a regular size motor!Sweet! I guess I wil lget her one then! is there other bodies available yet? do you know? see ya tonight. Hey can you answer my 12th scale question above also?

No, cant answer it....I am just a 12th scale specialist when it comes to driving. Paul is my consultant/pit Bitch in 12th scaleSweet! I guess I wil lget her one then! is there other bodies available yet? do you know? see ya tonight. Hey can you answer my 12th scale question above also?

No, cant answer it....I am just a 12th scale specialist when it comes to driving. Paul is my consultant/pit Bitch in 12th scaleHey paul please atound me with your wealth of knowledge on the 12ths scale issue i speak of! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

What does the shorter upper control arm mount do compared to the taller one? does it just effect roll center? or will it do other things, i.e. more steering or less? thanks!
I think you are talking about the reactive castor blocks? If you are, the 10deg will give the most steering and less as you go to 5 and 0. What happens is the 10 degree will allow the castor to change more as you enter and exit the turn. I think almost everyone uses the 10deg unless there is a lot of traction, then you may want to go down.

Paul

Let me "atound" you with my knowledge of the dictionary....that would be astound I beleive:p .



Hey paul please atound me with your wealth of knowledge on the 12ths scale issue i speak of! Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!

Let me "atound" you with my knowledge of the dictionary....that would be astound I beleive:p . i had a typing impedement! LOL

I think you are talking about the reactive castor blocks? If you are, the 10deg will give the most steering and less as you go to 5 and 0. What happens is the 10 degree will allow the castor to change more as you enter and exit the turn. I think almost everyone uses the 10deg unless there is a lot of traction, then you may want to go down.

Paul i see, yeah i have ones that put the upper control arm lower towards the lower control arm. didnt know if they were worth trying. I take it these things should be marked? SO THESE REACTIVE CASTER blocks take place of using the "wedge" shims in the old style front end? Thanks

Let me "atound" you with my knowledge of the dictionary....that would be astound I beleive:p . hey jonser do you have a roll out chart for 12th scale, tc3 and xxx-s ?

The hobby shop probably has a tc3/12th scale version. I have a losi chart somewhere on my pc. I do not beleive Jimmy has any of those. I sell the charts through Jimmy. If he is out then I can do one for you...if he has them then you should get through him.

2004 US Indoor Champs info I just read. T-Spec is now a class for the 2004 Champs.

So to those who said maybe a Spec class will help turnout for the Gate-Well-now not only can you run a spec clas at Gate-you can show-em how its done at the Champs too.

Ray

The hobby shop probably has a tc3/12th scale version. I have a losi chart somewhere on my pc. I do not beleive Jimmy has any of those. I sell the charts through Jimmy. If he is out then I can do one for you...if he has them then you should get through him.

Eric,

Do you have a chart for the x-ray that I can buy?

Thanks,

Adam

Wow-Eric-looks like you got your entries paid for tonight!!

Mr. Tamiya-check your PM!!

Adam...jimmy should have an Xray/12th scale chart in the counter. If he does not have the one with both cars then I can do one for you. Jimmy buys them from me and I try not to sell them if he has them...sort of not cool. I wont have it with me tonight though. I could start to customize them for people...put names...choose colors etc. Its an awesome tool...especially for the xray because you can change spurs so easily. NOt hard to get the exact rollout your looking for. Are you going to race tonight? Enough practice....get some race experience!

By the way guys....I know the charts may not look like much but it does cost a few bucks to make plus my time getting them laminated...I stand at the laminator at kinkos feeding them in one at a time....alot of fun! Sorry I cant give them away.Eric,

Do you have a chart for the x-ray that I can buy?

Thanks,

Adam

2004 US Indoor Champs info I just read. T-Spec is now a class for the 2004 Champs.

So to those who said maybe a Spec class will help turnout for the Gate-Well-now not only can you run a spec clas at Gate-you can show-em how its done at the Champs too.

Ray Ray,
Where did you get that info? is the site updated? see ya tonight!
Jay

Are you going to race tonight? Enough practice....get some race experiance!


Yes, tonight I am going to race 12 scale. I'm looking forward to last place. :hat:

just let it go a little more. You will do fine. Learning to race is a whole different ballgame. You have to learn how to pass and get passed. Have to start somewhere and the summer series is a perfect place for that. There will be a number of guys running 12th scale for the first time in a race atmosphere...Ray Adams, Dave U., yourself. Should be fun.

I have heard a rumor of a long haired red head that may show up...maybe mackin can show his face with his 12th scale as well...yeh right:rolleyes:
Are you going to race tonight? Enough practice....get some race experiance!


Yes, tonight I am going to race 12 scale. I'm looking forward to last place. :hat:

Warn Zach that he will be paying off some debt tonight....I am trying to run 2 classes and will need some help marshalling. He does not have his money yet so he should not renig:)

i see, yeah i have ones that put the upper control arm lower towards the lower control arm. didnt know if they were worth trying. I take it these things should be marked? SO THESE REACTIVE CASTER blocks take place of using the "wedge" shims in the old style front end? Thanks
The wedge shims on the old front end just adjusted castor only. There was no reactive in the old front end. The reactive castor blocks are seperate from the normal castor adjustment on the new front end. What reactive castor does is, as you let off for the turn the king pin moves more straight up and down for more turn in and as you accelerate the king pin leans back for more exit steering.

Paul

The wedge shims on the old front end just adjusted castor only. There was no reactive in the old front end. The reactive castor blocks are seperate from the normal castor adjustment on the new front end. What reactive castor does is, as you let off for the turn the king pin moves more straight up and down for more turn in and as you accelerate the king pin leans back for more exit steering.

PaulKewl thanks! I understand, should you have any extra caster added in ? or keep them level?
thanks
again

Is it 5 yet???

Personal preference!! If you like more exit steering-more shims in front-if you like more turn in and a lazier feel on exit-more shims in back. All else fails-put one shim forward and one in back.


If your talking about shimming the arms themselves on the chassis like the old skool arms-level!!

Ray
Kewl thanks! I understand, should you have any extra caster added in ? or keep them level?
thanks
again

Is it 5 yet???

Personal preference!! If you like more exit steering-more shims in front-if you like more turn in and a lazier feel on exit-more shims in back. All else fails-put one shim forward and one in back.


If your talking about shimming the arms themselves on the chassis like the old skool arms-level!!

RayTHanks Ray, Yeah! I wont be able to get there till 7:30 7:45 ish :cry:
I told jimmy to write me in for 12th and touring stock, can someone please remind him for me! thanks

Hey guys,
I have a question for ya, I need help understanding what is a good roll-out. Now, I have a bunch of charts, I know how to find what my roll-out is, but when having to pick out which roll-out to use, I am lost. For example, tonight I am getting my car ready for next week, (man it sucks I can't make it tonight) and I am down to 1.70,1.76,1.82,1.88,1.95. What would be the best? Does it come down to what the track is like, or what motor you are running? Any help would be get!
Thanks,
Jerry

Its a combination of the track and the motor you are running. Example...touring car rollouts have been anywhere from 1.06 to .88 on the different layouts with the same motors. When you thow a different type of motor into the equation then you have to change again. I am not an expert but I think that a High RPM motor like a monster or the new epic quad will need a lower rollout than the old p2k2 which had more torque. I think we were two teeth lower with the epic than a monster and at least 2 teeth lower with a monster than a p2k2. You have to get to the track and give it a try. I am running 12th scale tonight and I have no idea what to roll out at. All I know is that we are rolling our touring cars out much lower than usual so I iwll probably start low 1.60 or so. Rollout can be figured out by your batteries too. If you run 8 minutes and then have 45 seconds of runtime then there is a chance you should go higher. If you dump at the 7 minute mark then go down or buy some new batteries:rolleyes: .Hey guys,
I have a question for ya, I need help understanding what is a good roll-out. Now, I have a bunch of charts, I know how to find what my roll-out is, but when having to pick out which roll-out to use, I am lost. For example, tonight I am getting my car ready for next week, (man it sucks I can't make it tonight) and I am down to 1.70,1.76,1.82,1.88,1.95. What would be the best? Does it come down to what the track is like, or what motor you are running? Any help would be get!
Thanks,
Jerry

It might have been I good idea to tell ya that this is for a 12th scale. I think that I am going to start a 1.82, and go from there. Thanks!
Jerry

Jerry...I figured it was 12th scale and that is WAAAAY too high. If you have a monster stock, you will need to be in the mid 1.5 range. THis is based on this evenings races.It might have been I good idea to tell ya that this is for a 12th scale. I think that I am going to start a 1.82, and go from there. Thanks!
Jerry

hey guys great night of racing! was fun! I am gunnin for ya joneser in touring! see ya guys next week! Thanks Ray for the motors. And to you to Jimmy for gettung me that stuff! NIce to see some old faces tonight!

Good night off racing.Had a blast running my 1/12 scale for the first time.Thanks Ray H. for the speed control so Bob could race last night,I will return it to you next tues.Of all the nights for one to go bad,my spare was sitting at home.Thanks again.

Good night off racing.Had a blast running my 1/12 scale for the first time.Thanks Ray H. for the speed control so Bob could race last night,I will return it to you next tues.Of all the nights for one to go bad,my spare was sitting at home.Thanks again.
Hey Ray,

I think Seaball still has the top deck. I will get it from him next tuesday. Thanks for the use of it.

Your 1/12 looked really good and you drove it really well.

Paul

Fun night last night. IN Sedan GOetz and I battled it out every qualifier for our spot in the Main. In the Main-Goetz and I battled again-with me hitting him-then waiting for him to get going again and we raced to the buzzer again!! Wow-that was fun.

Ray Adams-you sure drive that 12th scale well. Keep up the good driving. Adam did great as well for his first race. I also noticed that MArlon and Allyn have both started to drive better and better lines too. I need MArlon to build me some motors!! Man has he got some rip in that car of his. It was great to see old faces show up again too (Morrow, JOhndro, Rumschlag) and two new novices as well.

Get a longer gun! hey guys great night of racing! was fun! I am gunnin for ya joneser in touring! see ya guys next week! Thanks Ray for the motors. And to you to Jimmy for gettung me that stuff! NIce to see some old faces tonight!

Man, 1/12 scale's a blast! Although, it's going to take me a little bit more running to learn how to be smooth with the throttle. Roll into and out of, not on or off. I do have a question for Paul, Ray, or Mr.Jones. Last night I was running the stock graphite t-bar. If I switch to a different plate, what type of change can I expect to feel in the car? I have 3 other t-plates; .063 & .075 fiberglass, and a medium spring steel.

David-I gotta run-so gotta be brief-Thicker T-Bar = More steering. But there are trade offs-like being really edgy or loose at end of run. I bet your carbon fiber t-bar is close to a thick fiberglass-but better to confer w/ CRC on that one.

The Spring steel ones I have never run. I believe if your going to run any spring steel one-it would be the medium.

As you now-for now whats easiest to drive is what you should strive for. Tuesday come out with the car with the 0.063 and three screws and let us know how it feels. Also-stay on top of those damper tubes. They make a big difference too. Try thin, and thick lubes and see what you like.

Ray

just let it go a little more. You will do fine. Learning to race is a whole different ballgame. You have to learn how to pass and get passed. Have to start somewhere and the summer series is a perfect place for that. There will be a number of guys running 12th scale for the first time in a race atmosphere...Ray Adams, Dave U., yourself. Should be fun.

I have heard a rumor of a long haired red head that may show up...maybe mackin can show his face with his 12th scale as well...yeh right:rolleyes:
Wendy? :)

I heard the long haired red head is going to be practicing touring car.... I think I may be out there with a touring car too!! 1/12 scale isn't ready yet.
-Wayne

David-I gotta run-so gotta be brief-Thicker T-Bar = More steering. But there are trade offs-like being really edgy or loose at end of run. I bet your carbon fiber t-bar is close to a thick fiberglass-but better to confer w/ CRC on that one.

The Spring steel ones I have never run. I believe if your going to run any spring steel one-it would be the medium.

As you now-for now whats easiest to drive is what you should strive for. Tuesday come out with the car with the 0.063 and three screws and let us know how it feels. Also-stay on top of those damper tubes. They make a big difference too. Try thin, and thick lubes and see what you like.

Ray

Hey Ray, did you get my previous post? Entries for the USPCC open on July 31 if you or anybody there wants to get in on it

Holy Crap...is the NORCAR schedule on the website 'close' to being accurate? If so, that means we have only 2 races before the fall series starts (granted it is almost 3 months and quite a few practice nights).......hopefully a lot more people will be able to make the Sunday races.

I think ts close to being accurate. Just put any Wednesday date on Tuesday. Yup-looks like only two Summer races left.

I am definately ging to capitolize on practices. Especially since this layout for some reason got TOns of grip.

Hey Ray, did you get my previous post? Entries for the USPCC open on July 31 if you or anybody there wants to get in on it

Hey how are you? I knw for a fact I am not going to make it. Doubt I'll do even one out of town multi-day race this year. At least not more than 2 or 3 hours away.

Hey guys as far as the schedule is concerned all events will be on Tuesday nights instead of Wed. Yes there are only two more race nights. Keep an eye on the website. It will be getting an update soon for the fall series and the rest of the summer series


Thanks,
Jim

Get a longer gun!My gun is long enough, just need to learn to use it a bit better! :thumbsup:

well, if you were shooting at the target that was put out there last night, dont bother...my lap times are 3 tenths slower than my previous best. Your car looks good but you still need a lap or two to get there....I dont plan on sitting still!My gun is long enough, just need to learn to use it a bit better! :thumbsup:

well, if you were shooting at the target that was put out there last night, dont bother...my lap times are 3 tenths slower than my previous best. Your car looks good but you still need a lap or two to get there....I dont plan on sitting still!THats what makes raing fun! Also remeber, i havent been practicing all summer;) I am happy with where me and the car are at right now, I will just concentrate on driving right nowand worry about speed later. Thought about running mod next practice to help my driving. it helped me the last time i did so we will see!

Well-the hardest thng isnt losing the first second-the next 0.5 seconds is harder still and the next 0.3 takes a deep wallet and to finally nail that last 0.2 sec per lap takes-well I dont know cause I aint done it yet!!!


Ray
THats what makes raing fun! Also remeber, i havent been practicing all summer;) I am happy with where me and the car are at right now, I will just concentrate on driving right nowand worry about speed later. Thought about running mod next practice to help my driving. it helped me the last time i did so we will see!

Well-the hardest thng isnt losing the first second-the next 0.5 seconds is harder still and the next 0.3 takes a deep wallet and to finally nail that last 0.2 sec per lap takes-well I dont know cause I aint done it yet!!!


RayWell spoken! :thumbsup:

Thanks-its true. All of us can bang our collectiver heads on the wall every week chasing the same 2 or 3 guys and blame evrything on the face of the earth (like I do), blame the batteries, the motor, the lack of natural talent, the dog-I dont know......

But in the end-it takes every single thing going right to compete at the front. Take the Nats for example-I got told by several guys, some I barely know that I had one of the fastest stock sedans on the straight and it looked dialed in handling too. Combined with me at the wheel it netted me 41st place!! So 40 guys with equal or even slower cars outqualified me!! :lol:

But I always keep the faith by remembering the old RC racing adage taught to me by my good friend Bean-"It only takes one run".
Well spoken! :thumbsup:

Who is talking about TQ....hell...I have 3,4,or 5 guys to get to before TQ...then I have to deal with Frankyrello. Mr. Tamiya is gunning for me....he better worry about the people between us first. I have made a huge jump in 12th scale and that gets me to 1.5 laps within Paul....I certainly better have goals between me and TQ:rolleyes:

Does everyone in 1/12 scale run their batteries more than once a day for qualifing and mains, or is it a good idea to have one pack for each heat and main?