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joneser
07-07-2004, 09:52 AM
The MIP lacks the cool factor of the Integy and lacks the gerth of the Niftech. But its perfect for you Ray:dude:

rayhuang
07-07-2004, 09:56 AM
Hey now-I'm cool-I got gerth (around my belly).

GRIZZLY-A
07-07-2004, 10:10 AM
When it comes to gerth,Ive got you all beat.I like my integy one real well.Its easy to use and alot quicker than the scales i have been using.

rayhuang
07-07-2004, 10:19 AM
Ray A-How you likin' my old RugRat? I am trying right now to see if my neighbor can watch Audrey till 7:30 tonight so I can run a pack through my 12LC and my XRay. I installed the BRP top plate and a few other tweaks to the LC and cannot wait to try it!

Ray

chicky03
07-07-2004, 10:23 AM
The integy tweak station is good. Goetz like his and I have liked using it. I was thinking about getting one as well. Paul just picked up the niftech one and he likes it but the niftech does not need to be leveled because of the lazer. A little easier to use in my opinion.
I think you meant the Integy does not need to be leveled because of the lazer.

Paul

joneser
07-07-2004, 10:48 AM
yeh...what he said:freak: I think you meant the Integy does not need to be leveled because of the lazer.

Paul

GRIZZLY-A
07-07-2004, 11:31 AM
Im likin the RugRat real well.I think Im hooked on this 1/12 scale thing.It seems to handle real good thanks to chicky's expert set up and all the help hes giving me.

rayhuang
07-07-2004, 02:43 PM
I am glad you like it!! I just couldnt come to terms with it pre-Nats and when I went back to my trusty old Rev3-I went quicker. Then when I went with the Rev4-it was a struggle at first-but it got a lot better. I dont doubt the T-bar is the car of choice at the Gate right now though.

David Usnik
07-07-2004, 03:14 PM
Yeah, I like my t-back panties...umm I mean t-bar car.

losidude44857
07-07-2004, 04:01 PM
I will not be there tonight. Sorry.
-Buddy

rayhuang
07-07-2004, 04:15 PM
As long as you come for your whooopin on the 13th is all that matters!! :lol:

Wife just told me she has the 13th off next week!! Typical Ray luck thing is she asked and got the 14th off for me next week..............one week too late!

Ray

I will not be there tonight. Sorry.
-Buddy

losidude44857
07-07-2004, 09:57 PM
LOL, i'll be there.
-Buddy

Stealth_RT
07-07-2004, 09:59 PM
Posted by Hankster:
Just got my latest RevUp and I see that ROAR will make brushless motors legal in 2005. There will be two classes of motors limited by their winds... one is designed to perform about the same as a 10T motor and the other the same as a 27T motor.

Could be that within 5 years brushed motors will be a thing of the past!
So, my question to the Gate track directors is this: Will brushless motors be legal during the upcoming winter/spring season in 2005, for mod and possibly even stock? Kinda early to bring this up, but now is the time to start thinking about it. This is the most exciting new technology to come along in RC since ESC's became commonplace, replacing mechanical speed controllers. I may never buy another brushed mod motor again. And if I can toss my brushed stock motors in favor of a brushless stock, well, I'd be in RC heaven!

rayhuang
07-07-2004, 10:33 PM
I dont think I cld fit the Brushless ESC in my Xray!! :lol: I asked Charlie yesterday if he thought they could shrink the ESC dwon 20% and he said not right now. The problem is the brushless system has three systems to run the brushless motor and it takes up room.

But I agree-Bean ran the Brushless at the Novak race and i thnk he really liked it. I have always wanted to try it. problem is the Stock brushless is too fast (vs. 27t) and the Mod brushless is too slow (vs. 8x2).
So theres some issues onhaving a level playing field.

UrboTurbo
07-08-2004, 10:07 AM
Not to mention it doesn't fall under roar guide lines for stock racing, and that is to be able to buy a motor and esc for under a certain amount of money. Like 150.00 or so, so you are basically telling the poor guy to go home and save his pennies if he cannot afford a brushless system. Brushless wont be common place till the price gets better. I know you can argue about the cost of brushes and stuff, but these motors do not last forever. Ask fuzzchop - he has had a lot of issues with his system already. Endbells and thermal shut downs at high temps. Not to mention the computer and electronics gurus can do things to there ECS's to kill the competition. That would mean we would all need to become electrical engineers to race??? Doesn't make much sense.

rayhuang
07-08-2004, 10:11 AM
JOneser-how was the BMI Xray last night? Did you like it? Shoot me your set-up if you get a chance. I heard you ran 12.3 so thats pretty fast!!

rayhuang
07-08-2004, 10:24 AM
Turbo-Yeah-lots of possible controversy on the Brushless. For sure you can run it in open Mod right now-I am sure the Gate would allow it. Of course a good driver with a Brushless would woop a bad driver wiht a 6 turn anyways.

My understanding is that Asia is going to 23t stock and its faster. If the USA went to 23t stock-then I believe the Novak Stock Brushless motor would be more inline. But thats years off I bet. That could open an avenue for beginners and more budget minded drivers to run 27t stock and let the Buran's, CHicky's, etc. to run 23t or Brushless.

uspancarchamps
07-08-2004, 11:22 PM
JOneser-how was the BMI Xray last night? Did you like it? Shoot me your set-up if you get a chance. I heard you ran 12.3 so thats pretty fast!!

Hey Ray. You want me to email you my flyer for the USPCC? I bet there are a bunch of people at "The Gate" that would love to come to TX and show off their pan car skills

rayhuang
07-09-2004, 11:59 AM
Hey everyone,

If your looking to see some super fast (69mph!!) RC cars this weekend-go to the Midwest Series event at MORR's track at the Great Lakes Mall in Mentor!!

Some of the fastest nitro racers in the country will be competing all weekend long.

Ray

krisgel
07-09-2004, 09:30 PM
Well I finally have started building the x-ray. The reaer arms do not flop down on their own. What should I do to free up their movement?

Thanks,

Adam

rayhuang
07-09-2004, 11:16 PM
Adam-its me again!! First thing is the body is yours. I put on one of m other bodies for the time being.

OK-on the Xray-its not a problem. ALL of the Xrays do this. Take off the thickest spacer and sand or flat file one face of it down till it snaps in and the arm flosp-but does not have any play. or -you can do what I did. I have a very thin washer in place of the 0.5mm or 1mm clip. This washer never comes off the hingepin, but I did put it all the way in the back so if you ever break an arm, etc. its first to take off and last to put on. Ease of maintenance. UMmm-and yes I do overthink my cars sometimes.

Basically find a washer thats thin and take a thick spacer out and put a thinner one in. Play with it till its perfect.

Ray

joneser
07-09-2004, 11:17 PM
Adam....first off, You dont have to do the following but I would recommend this with any car you build. Chuck the hinge pin into the dremmel....gets some polishing compound and polish the hinge pin. You will have to flip it once to get the entire pin. This will help, then just mount it like the directions...try to play with the arms a little back and forth. They will free up.


You should polish all four large hinge pins!

krisgel
07-10-2004, 08:45 AM
Thanks Ray and Joneser.

I am I supposed to file down the battery slots at all?

Mr-Tamiya
07-10-2004, 03:51 PM
Hey guys, should I prep the bmi chassis on the hpi pro4 like the 12th scale? any body know a better way than using a Q tip and CA around the edges? I am very happy with the car jImmy thanks! turned a 12.8 with it! now I just have to make them all that and better! THe car is tight and fast, it was what I needed, I was stale with the TC3 for me.

uspancarchamps
07-10-2004, 06:53 PM
Hey guys, I just thought I would notify you of a brand new contest. I have been talking to someone about designing T-shirts for the race. Then I thought that I should open that up to everybody. Here is the deal:

I want you to come up with the best design that you can for a US Pan Car Championships T-shirt. email them to bjwilliams@liberty.edu. I will look over the designs and post a poll with the 5 best for you all to vote on. The winning design will be used for the T-shirts and the designer will get a really cool prize as well as a free entry into the event. So get out those art supplies and show us what you got!

HookupsXXX4
07-11-2004, 10:06 AM
What is going on with the 12th scale stock race? Is it this week, or next? Jerry

rayhuang
07-11-2004, 11:27 AM
Thanks Ray and Joneser.

I am I supposed to file down the battery slots at all?

Yes-I'll do them for you or do them together if you like. Make sure you have a pack ready to drop in after every pass to make sure ou dnt go to low. Other issues to be aware of-e-mail or call me next week 1-440-735-9095

Mr. Tamiya-I havent been CA'ing mine anymore-but I shou
ld. Patience is alll you need to apply the CA on the chassis.

Hookups XXX4-yup -this Tuesday I'd like to see a lot more 12th sca;es than usual!!

mackhead
07-11-2004, 04:42 PM
Is anyone selling a BMI chassis for the TC3, or know someone who is?

rayhuang
07-11-2004, 10:34 PM
How did our Gate regulars fair in the MIdwest race? I couldnt make it today to spectate.

Ray

Doorman
07-12-2004, 04:55 AM
Jimmy or Ray,

What time do you open the doors for practice Tuesday?
And what time do you want to start racing?
I would like to get all the track time I can.

Talk to you soon.
Tracy

bean's my hero
07-12-2004, 07:50 AM
Just an FYI to all you racers out there,

We will be racing this Tuesday and the doors will open at 5:00 pm and the racing will start beween 7:00 and 7:30 pm. Hope you all can make it. It should be interesting to see our turnout for our first TUESDAY night event.

Thanks,
Jim

chicky03
07-12-2004, 07:58 AM
How did our Gate regulars fair in the MIdwest race? I couldnt make it today to spectate.

Ray
Aaron:
1/8-3rd qual, led main for a while, had the fastest car, broke, finished 3rd
200mm- Was second for a long while, broke with a few minutes to go, finished 3rd or 4th

Jimmy:
1/8-4th qual,borrowed a motor for the main and was junk, hit Brian on the straight, car totaled 11 laps in

Kelly:
1/8-Bad weekend, car was good

Paul:
200mm-2nd qual, fastest laps all weekend and in the main .4 faster in the main than anyone else, Myself and Switzer were 15sec ahead of 3rd qual, Broke in warm up, fixed it, got gack out, broke about 3 more times. Had fun though.

Paul

joneser
07-12-2004, 09:08 AM
Broke, Broke, Broke, Broke.....sounds like a blast!Aaron:
1/8-3rd qual, led main for a while, had the fastest car, broke, finished 3rd
200mm- Was second for a long while, broke with a few minutes to go, finished 3rd or 4th

Jimmy:
1/8-4th qual,borrowed a motor for the main and was junk, hit Brian on the straight, car totaled 11 laps in

Kelly:
1/8-Bad weekend, car was good

Paul:
200mm-2nd qual, fastest laps all weekend and in the main .4 faster in the main than anyone else, Myself and Switzer were 15sec ahead of 3rd qual, Broke in warm up, fixed it, got gack out, broke about 3 more times. Had fun though.

Paul

rayhuang
07-12-2004, 09:30 AM
Paul-great job turning around your ride. Did you make it steer more?

Jimmy kitted his car? OUCH!!

I watched Aaron practice Sat. morning and I could tell he had an awesome car!!

chicky03
07-12-2004, 11:15 AM
When I was traction rolling I went to stiffer springs but that did not help so I went to harder front tires also and then it pushed. I went back to softer front springs with the harder tires and the car was MONEY!!! The G4 is like driving a carpet car just a little looser. I was hammer down in the main. Probably why I broke 4 times LOL!!!


Paul

rayhuang
07-12-2004, 12:24 PM
NItro touring cars are weird like that. The car can be an undriveable pile of doo doo-then you switch from 37 to 40 shore rears and-shabang-dialed. My nTC3 was like that.

I hope you guys race 200mm again next summer. I might try and run next year.

joneser
07-12-2004, 02:12 PM
who is coming tomorrow and what are you running. Medved....I am going to try to run both classes tomorrow....you game?

rayhuang
07-12-2004, 02:19 PM
12th stock for sure and stock sedan if theres enough heats.

Ray

Mr-Tamiya
07-12-2004, 08:31 PM
:dude: I iwll be running both 12th and touring stock! I wont be ther till about 7:30 but I told jimmy to sign me in! See ya all there!
:cool:

Mr-Tamiya
07-12-2004, 08:47 PM
Was wondering if anyone had a few old paradox handout motors they want to get rid of. I am looking for them for the boys cars. Also does anyone have the mini tamiya monster truck for sale? let me know !

davidl
07-12-2004, 09:39 PM
I have about 9 of these motors in new condition. How about $30 shipped?

losidude44857
07-12-2004, 09:42 PM
I will not be there, getting home at between 12-1, and getting up at 545 just doesnt work.
-Buddy

Stealth_RT
07-12-2004, 09:56 PM
Mmmmm. Already starting to think about the Fall Season. Just around the corner, ya know. 2 more months. By the middle of August, I'll be pretty much done playing with the big car, and start getting stuff together for the little cars. Ordering new batteries, trying to find all my racing stuff that's gotten scattered since the spring, painting a body, pestering MB for a setup, ordering scads of DP, DP-O tires, etc. This will (hopefully) be a mod only season. :) For better or worse, I don't have to decide where to race, with Beaver closed and all. The Gate is the only track left for me thats within a reasonable driving distance. So you jokers better not close :)

Stealth_RT
07-12-2004, 10:44 PM
Btw, what's the latest word on the Orion V2 Atsushi Hara Pro Edition Motors? Are they worth trying?

rayhuang
07-12-2004, 10:54 PM
I will not be there, getting home at between 12-1, and getting up at 545 just doesnt work.
-Buddy

What a wuss!! I used to drive back from Road Atlanta pullling a 18' trailer with an underpowered tow vehicle starting Sunday late afternoon and make it to my Monday morning classes at OSU!! My bro would continue to drive back to Purdue the same morning. Buck-up!!! This is racin and your young!

GRIZZLY-A
07-13-2004, 06:35 AM
Ill be there,going to run both classes if theres enough people to do it.Buddy,Im a whole lot older than you and I get up at 4:00am for work everyday.Get off your butt and get to the track.See you there tonight

David Usnik
07-13-2004, 07:59 AM
Thems' fightn' words! Buddy, you just going to stand there and take this abuse? 1/12 stock for me.

STONE
07-13-2004, 09:30 AM
jennifer and I won't be there tonight...prior commitment but we will be back next week

chicky03
07-13-2004, 10:06 AM
I will not be there, getting home at between 12-1, and getting up at 545 just doesnt work.
-Buddy
You WUSS BAG!!! Get to the track and race. I used to get up at 6:00am, race slotcars all day then drive 8 hrs home from NY. Get home at 7:00 in the morning and be at work for 8:00am. No excuses.

Paul

Mr-Tamiya
07-13-2004, 10:15 AM
I have about 9 of these motors in new condition. How about $30 shipped? davidl are these new? used? and how do you want to do the transaction? M/O paypal? email me @ mrtamiya@hotmail.com