Dirt Runners Outdoor Season 2004 [Archive] - Page 6

MixMastaMM

05-12-2004, 06:39 AM

Just so all you boneheads know. A vote was taken among mini-t drivers and they wanted to run on the oval. Till we get enough for two classes it will be decided by whichever class has more people signed up.Majority rules.In case anyone feels they can do a better job at this race directing thing they should step forward.

AHHH my bad wayne. I thought the Powers spoke and it was done.

eviltone

05-12-2004, 07:38 AM

Just so all you boneheads know. A vote was taken among mini-t drivers and they wanted to run on the oval. Till we get enough for two classes it will be decided by whichever class has more people signed up.Majority rules.In case anyone feels they can do a better job at this race directing thing they should step forward.i was Busting CHOPS Wayne. Just Make Sure to tell Chris that if we do run oval, he's gonna have some competition....
We're not criticizing the Management...

-Tone

eviltone

05-12-2004, 07:39 AM

Just so all you boneheads know. A vote was taken among mini-t drivers and they wanted to run on the oval. Till we get enough for two classes it will be decided by whichever class has more people signed up.Majority rules.In case anyone feels they can do a better job at this race directing thing they should step forward.
wait a second..... does this NOT sound familiar? it sounds like Paul Sr. on American Chopper.....

-Tone

eviltone

05-12-2004, 07:41 AM

Rory, you might just be better off waiting for tekin to sell the g-10s, their website sais that they will be sellin them by the end of the month. and for now just put that novak dually in or somethingRyan, i think Rory wants to RUN his car THIS weekend.... that isnt gonna help him THIS weekend....

-Tone

nicwald

05-12-2004, 09:05 AM

next weekend on the 22, and the 23 i believe, at raceway park they are having a fun ford weekend, ahh so many delicous mustangs, i think i might go
Delicious mustangs

That’s an oxymoron

Nick

nicwald

05-12-2004, 09:34 AM

Is it Sunday? I want to race

Nick

USPatriot

05-12-2004, 10:59 AM

Delicious mustangs

That’s an oxymoron

Nick

umm, there is a hidden meaning behind that, if mustangs were food they would be delicious, unlike a camaro witch would taste yucky, gotta pick up on things like that

nicwald

05-12-2004, 11:23 AM

umm, there is a hidden meaning behind that, if mustangs were food they would be delicious, unlike a camaro witch would taste yucky, gotta pick up on things like that
Oxymoron: combining two oposite words to form a phrase. Examples:

Jumbo Shrimp

Delicious Mustang

You "gotta" pick up on things like that. :cool: :tongue:

nick

C/O www.Dictionary.com (http://www.Dictionary.com)
oxymoron

\Ox`y*mo"ron\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ???, fr. ??? pointedly foolish; ??? sharp + ??? foolish.] (Rhet.) A figure in which an epithet of a contrary signification is added to a word; e. g., cruel kindness; laborious idleness.

Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=00-database-info&db=web1913): Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

MixMastaMM

05-12-2004, 11:47 AM

nicwald

05-12-2004, 01:13 PM

Gary (or anyone at the race),

How did the Emaxx run with the tmaxxes (I realize it won), was it dominant, or was it just a matter of staying out of trouble?

Thanks,
Nick

USPatriot

05-12-2004, 01:17 PM

Oxymoron: combining two oposite words to form a phrase. Examples:

Jumbo Shrimp

Delicious Mustang

You "gotta" pick up on things like that. :cool: :tongue:

nick

C/O www.Dictionary.com (http://www.Dictionary.com)
oxymoron

\Ox`y*mo"ron\, n. [NL., fr. Gr. ???, fr. ??? pointedly foolish; ??? sharp + ??? foolish.] (Rhet.) A figure in which an epithet of a contrary signification is added to a word; e. g., cruel kindness; laborious idleness.

Source (http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=00-database-info&db=web1913): Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary, © 1996, 1998 MICRA, Inc.

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nicwald

05-12-2004, 01:24 PM

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Very good Michael, you've demonstrated an oxymoron to the class

Nick

MixMastaMM

05-12-2004, 01:25 PM

Gary (or anyone at the race),

How did the Emaxx run with the tmaxxes (I realize it won), was it dominant, or was it just a matter of staying out of trouble?

Thanks,
Nick

Staying out of trouble. John Keys had the fastest truck by far, but got punted 2 or 3 times on the first lap.

nicwald

05-12-2004, 01:29 PM

Staying out of trouble. John Keys had the fastest truck by far, but got punted 2 or 3 times on the first lap.
So the Emaxx didn't have a seen unfair advantage?

Also, I think there might be a savage this week, I got an email from someone who is going to bring one up.

Nick

eviltone

05-12-2004, 01:32 PM

So the Emaxx didn't have a seen unfair advantage?

Also, I think there might be a savage this week, I got an email from someone who is going to bring one up.

NickSAVAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats gonna be strange.. i wonder if it is the SS, or the one witht he .25 or like a TRUCKZILLA w/ the .46

-Tone

eviltone

05-12-2004, 01:33 PM

nicwald

05-12-2004, 01:40 PM

SAVAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! thats gonna be strange.. i wonder if it is the SS, or the one witht he .25 or like a TRUCKZILLA w/ the .46

-Tone
We're going to look at it and compare it to the Tmaxx (I've never seen them side by side) and we'll decide if they're all going to be in the same class.

Nick

MixMastaMM

05-12-2004, 01:41 PM

So the Emaxx didn't have a seen unfair advantage?

Also, I think there might be a savage this week, I got an email from someone who is going to bring one up.

Nick

I think the lack of experience was the biggest factor.

nicwald

05-12-2004, 01:41 PM

I think the lack of experience was the biggest factor.Strike that, N/M

Nick

sean cant drive

05-12-2004, 03:44 PM

Ryan, i think Rory wants to RUN his car THIS weekend.... that isnt gonna help him THIS weekend....

-Tone
thats why i said to put the dually in for now

sean cant drive

05-12-2004, 03:48 PM

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05-12-2004, 03:50 PM

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wow cheese i love mustangs as much as the next guy but u r a freak

eviltone

05-12-2004, 03:53 PM

thats why i said to put the dually in for now

well.. i did need to SELL my other one.... dork...

-Tone

eviltone

05-12-2004, 03:54 PM

wow cheese i love mustangs as much as the next guy but if u ever got one u would probably like have sex with it. u sould be sitting on the shifter instead of the seatYOU ARE GROSS.. and i am gonna have to report you to the POLICE!!!

-Tone

craftmastaschiz

05-12-2004, 03:55 PM

hey cheese the motor u got i thought that u were getting a flat wire cause this one is a round wire and lette me tell u wow this motor is fast as anything

craftmastaschiz

05-12-2004, 03:56 PM

YOU ARE GROSS.. and i am gonna have to report you to the POLICE!!!

-Tone

y i didnt do anything wrong

Gary NJ

05-12-2004, 03:58 PM

We're going to look at it and compare it to the Tmaxx (I've never seen them side by side) and we'll decide if they're all going to be in the same class.

Nick
Actually, it was my understanding that the class was already decided. My understanding for offroad is that stock configuration Maxxes with up to midblock .21s were one class, evrything else was Unlimited MT. On the oval it was only small block stock config Maxxes.

As to the EMaxx speed, the guy driving it basically looked like he was just trying to get around. However, looking at the lap printouts, there are some atrange things on the lap times. The EMaxx had a lot of 29's, but he also had an 8.4, and a 21.5...hmmmm. Kevin showed a 15.7 and a 13.1 before he broke...hmmmm. Chris Smith ran a 106 and a 19.6...hmmm. Something isn't right here.

eviltone

05-12-2004, 04:01 PM

Actually, it was my understanding that the class was already decided. My understanding for offroad is that stock configuration Maxxes with up to midblock .21s were one class, evrything else was Unlimited MT. On the oval it was only small block stock config Maxxes.

As to the EMaxx speed, the guy driving it basically looked like he was just trying to get around. However, looking at the lap printouts, there are some atrange things on the lap times. The EMaxx had a lot of 29's, but he also had an 8.4, and a 21.5...hmmmm. Kevin showed a 15.7 and a 13.1 before he broke...hmmmm. Chris Smith ran a 106 and a 19.6...hmmm. Something isn't right here.
its the LOOP.... ITS THE LOOOOP that we soldered.... mebbe we need to lengthen it.....
-Tone

craftmastaschiz

05-12-2004, 04:32 PM

nnnnnnnnnoooooooooooooooooo the weather forcast says rain for the weekends again

nicwald

05-12-2004, 04:40 PM

As to the EMaxx speed, the guy driving it basically looked like he was just trying to get around. However, looking at the lap printouts, there are some atrange things on the lap times. The EMaxx had a lot of 29's, but he also had an 8.4, and a 21.5...hmmmm. Kevin showed a 15.7 and a 13.1 before he broke...hmmmm. Chris Smith ran a 106 and a 19.6...hmmm. Something isn't right here.
Looking closely at the results, the fastest lap I saw in 2wd truck mod offroad was a 22 second lap, I know that a Tmaxx can go atleast as fast as an electric truck, so I think a good number to go by is 22 seconds. Looks like we have 1 of 2 situations.

1) The trucks are jumping the track and not scoring full laps
2) The Loop is too long, trucks are counting on the other side of the pipe if they are too close to the front straights pipe.

Possible Fixes:

1) Higher Pipes
2) Enforce a 2 lap penalty for jumping the track and continuing on
3) Revaluate the track layout to accomodate the loop
4) Move the loop

Nick

P.S These are just some thoughts and do not reflect the ideas of any other board members

nicwald

05-12-2004, 04:43 PM

Gary NJ

05-12-2004, 04:56 PM

Gary NJ

05-12-2004, 04:57 PM

The oval is small block only, that is clear.

I'll need to discuss the Off Road Tmaxx situation with the rest of the board to determine exactly what was decided upon.

Nick
Hey, I'm only telling you what they told me after the rules meeting...

nicwald

05-12-2004, 05:03 PM

Hey, I'm only telling you what they told me after the rules meeting...
I need to talk to everybody to see whats going on with the rules, just to make sure everyone is on the same page.

Nick

nicwald

05-12-2004, 05:12 PM

Not sure whassup. Actually, if you look at this pic http://www.dirtrunners.com/images/Work04/Progress_16_b.JPG you'll see where the loop ends is at a 'dead' section of the track with a buffer area next to the loop. It doesn't look like the loop should be triggered at that point by the truck then passing close by on a different part of thhe track. I'm also not sure about a shorting the course. If I look at 10th gas off road, the printout shows me having 11.9 and a 21.8 second laps within the race. I know I'm good, but not that good, and I also know I didn't short the course anywhere, so I think something else may be happening that is more random and spurious.

Houston, I think we have a problem here....you should also look at the 1/10th mod off road truck results, because they show Kucharski beating me by 6 seconds -- like he could ever do that!!;)
Yeah, you guys have a little better idea of the layout at this point than I do, but now I see what you're saying. I would still tend to think that a large number of the fast laps are from jumping the pipe. If you wind up in that infield near the loop, there is a good possibility that it may be counting there as well, we will apparently have to look into this Sunday and see if we can get this straightened out. I think some testing is in order, maybe I'll dig the loop up again to check the loop fix, perhaps the shrink wrap I used was not sufficient to insulate the soldered piece (I'll bring my heat gun, shrink wrap and some electrical tape to make sure that it is protected better than it is now. If it is a matter of random signals, first, we can try reinstalling the software, and if there still are problems, we may have to contact the manufacturer of the hardware and have them do some diagnostics. I guess we'll see this Sunday.

As for Mike beating you, thay really does give away that there is a problem! ;)

Nick

Gary NJ

05-12-2004, 05:12 PM

Looking closely at the results, the fastest lap I saw in 2wd truck mod offroad was a 22 second lap, I know that a Tmaxx can go atleast as fast as an electric truck, so I think a good number to go by is 22 seconds.
I think once everybody gets dialed in, the fastest mod electric trucks will be 2 - 3 seconds faster than the best Maxxes and 1/10th gas trucks. JMHO.

nicwald

05-12-2004, 05:19 PM

I think once everybody gets dialed in, the fastest mod electric trucks will be 2 - 3 seconds faster than the best Maxxes and 1/10th gas trucks. JMHO.
We will certainly see.

Nick

MixMastaMM

05-12-2004, 06:43 PM

Looking closely at the results, the fastest lap I saw in 2wd truck mod offroad was a 22 second lap, I know that a Tmaxx can go atleast as fast as an electric truck, so I think a good number to go by is 22 seconds. Looks like we have 1 of 2 situations.

1) The trucks are jumping the track and not scoring full laps
2) The Loop is too long, trucks are counting on the other side of the pipe if they are too close to the front straights pipe.

Possible Fixes:

1) Higher Pipes
2) Enforce a 2 lap penalty for jumping the track and continuing on
3) Revaluate the track layout to accomodate the loop
4) Move the loop

Nick

P.S These are just some thoughts and do not reflect the ideas of any other board members

Sounds like a good plan to me

MixMastaMM

05-12-2004, 06:47 PM

Houston, I think we have a problem here....you should also look at the 1/10th mod off road truck results, because they show Kucharski beating me by 6 seconds -- like he could ever do that!!;)

I did have a 7 cell pack in the truck. If thats not legal, I will run an 8 cell. :cool:

JK. I had my nice 6 cell 2400's with a 19 turn in there. Nick did comment on how well my 19s were running though. So I know how to build some HP, now only to get it to the ground and drive a good lap or 10.