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wayneny
08-11-2004, 06:33 AM
www.marshallshilltophobbies.com

MixMastaMM
08-11-2004, 07:04 AM
Marshalls runs on their asphalt oval Saturday night at 6pm, don't have any other details. Are Ryan and Craig running mod truck too, or do you wanna run stock? I'll bring mine, and I think Chris will drag his along.

Marshalls is easy to get to off Rt 84...u need directions?

For stock you have to run a club motor, and I think you have to use spec tires for all of the off road stuff. TMaxx uses stock tires, buggies and trucks run the losi spec tires. I would give them a call just to check and make sure before you guys head up.


Mike

MixMastaMM
08-11-2004, 07:05 AM
ryan and i wanted to race truck offroad r all u guys goin to wval or offroad and what tires r good and how much a car to race
idk i just got 2 new mod motors and idk what i want to run now cuz i got a paridime motor my d6 and my vantage and i just gave tone my stock motor with my rustler

Marshalls runs different times for oval. I think oval is saturday night, offroad is sunday. Depending on what day you go will decide what you run. Just call them to find out the skinny.


Mike

Gary NJ
08-11-2004, 08:54 AM
For stock you have to run a club motor, and I think you have to use spec tires for all of the off road stuff. TMaxx uses stock tires, buggies and trucks run the losi spec tires. I would give them a call just to check and make sure before you guys head up.


Mike
When I called Bill at Marshall's on Monday to ask about the race, I asked what tires were working, and he said guys were having good luck with step pins in electric truck. Didn't say anything about spec tires, and he knew we were coming from another track.

nicwald
08-11-2004, 09:16 AM
5 min. without blinking my eyes. What fun!

http://www.night-vision-goggles.com/
Now I think John has the right idea, those would definitely be cool to have, and light wouldn't be much of a problem anymore, how about the club just buys 10 of these babies and we can race till midnight!


Nick

nicwald
08-11-2004, 09:22 AM
I think everyone should get the new trinity T-specs for indoors, I got one and want to race them, they're not bad cars, full ball bearings (minus 4 in the ball diffs), shaft drive, good adjustment capabilities, spec foam tires (only $2 cheaper than std foams though), and they use the same battery/motor as the street spec. Everyone should have one! They'll be good on the oval, I also think they'd be good on our mini-roadcourse. I got my kit with battery and motor for $140, so they're pretty cheap too. The 21 turn would be a good speed for the roadcourse for people new to road racing, and from what I've heard from Jon the cars handle real well. Come on, do it! You know you want to!

Oh yeah, and they come built.

Nick

nicwald
08-11-2004, 09:26 AM
Yup my car is toast since it was hit so many times since none could see.

Now Jim, did that really have anything to do with the daylight?:eek: :devil: :jest:

Nick

sean cant drive
08-11-2004, 09:46 AM
Marshalls runs on their asphalt oval Saturday night at 6pm, don't have any other details. Are Ryan and Craig running mod truck too, or do you wanna run stock? I'll bring mine, and I think Chris will drag his along.

Marshalls is easy to get to off Rt 84...u need directions?gary, i am not sure if i shud run stock or mod, if the stock class has alot of competiition then i might just run that.

MixMastaMM
08-11-2004, 10:06 AM
When I called Bill at Marshall's on Monday to ask about the race, I asked what tires were working, and he said guys were having good luck with step pins in electric truck. Didn't say anything about spec tires, and he knew we were coming from another track.

Oh ok. Last I knew, they ran spec tires. Sorry!

Mike

kybob
08-11-2004, 10:34 AM
Offroad, eh??
i take it OVAL is only on saturday??? i wanna run that mini-t on the oval... hmm... well... i am gonna be going on sunday w/ my t4 and all i got is a MOD motor (i think it still works.....) and i am supposed to bring RYAN and Craig too.... so sunday would be good... is there somewhere we could meet to get it together??? i would love to go on saturday for the oval.......

-Tone

Tone can i please come along too?

sean cant drive
08-11-2004, 10:37 AM
hey cheeznutz, how that freakin four wheeled land missle of yours? do ya need new bars for it cause i am ordering some parts for my kdx tomorrow?

jdwca
08-11-2004, 10:43 AM
Just browsing through the old posts and catching up...wanted to add my .02c:

Regarding Jim Smith's itemized list (couldn't resist, Jim ;-) of complaints, I for one really enjoy coming to DR for the whole day of racing. It's a local club where you can chill-out for the day, banter with friends. It's not high-stress. I have probably the longest commute of anyone at the track (Bayonne - 1.25 hours) and it's no big deal to get home at say 8:30 PM at night for only $8 paid for some fun and relaxation. BUT, that's just me.

-jon
www.surgebatterymatching.com (http://www.surgebatterymatching.com/)
Resistance is Futile!

jdwca
08-11-2004, 10:47 AM
On another matter: I'm selling my 12th scale. It's the same car that won three races last season in mod.

Associated 12L3
6 (Surge, SMC) 4 cell packs - in mint condition and will be rezapped for free
1 LRP 7.1 Speed Control
1 Protoform Speed body
1 JR High-speed servo
1 IRS Pinned diff axle
Plenty of extra tires and parts

$250 (*possibly* negotiable)

-jon
www.surgebatterymatching.com (http://www.surgebatterymatching.com/)
Resistance is Futile!

eviltone
08-11-2004, 12:11 PM
Ok Ok Ok.... i gotta let the Cat outta the bag..... Cheezenuts didnt post that thing about quitting. iwas actually over his house yesterday, workin on his quad, when i went to hobbytalk to see what Gary might have said about a TMaxx engine (that whole long discussion.... hrmpff.. i still cant decide!) and i noticed he left himself LOGGED in.... i couldnt resist the childlike impulse to post such a thing!!! so dun worry, there is still gonna be Cheese-filled days at dirtrunners... but from what i hear - he might not be going to the Challenge!!! that means... 2wd truck is open for a win f0 sh0 _not like he'd win anyways_ but whatever!!
i am sooo mean... i should be hung in a town square or something!!

-Tone

MixMastaMM
08-11-2004, 12:44 PM
Ok Ok Ok.... i gotta let the Cat outta the bag..... Cheezenuts didnt post that thing about quitting. iwas actually over his house yesterday, workin on his quad, when i went to hobbytalk to see what Gary might have said about a TMaxx engine (that whole long discussion.... hrmpff.. i still cant decide!) and i noticed he left himself LOGGED in.... i couldnt resist the childlike impulse to post such a thing!!! so dun worry, there is still gonna be Cheese-filled days at dirtrunners... but from what i hear - he might not be going to the Challenge!!! that means... 2wd truck is open for a win f0 sh0 _not like he'd win anyways_ but whatever!!
i am sooo mean... i should be hung in a town square or something!!

-Tone
Tone,
I figured it was a childish prank from Mike. Now that you owned up to it, it really makes sense!! :tongue: :lol: :tongue:

Mike

eviltone
08-11-2004, 01:03 PM
Tone,
I figured it was a childish prank from Mike. Now that you owned up to it, it really makes sense!! :tongue: :lol: :tongue:

Mike
Rofl... ya see, i am more a child than some of the chilluns.... personally, i think the kid needs a smackdown in truck..... WHO'S GONNA GIVE IT TO HIM???? i know that i cant - this is motivation for everyone!!!!!!!

-Tone

eviltone
08-11-2004, 01:05 PM
www.marshallshilltophobbies.com (http://www.marshallshilltophobbies.com/)
OH MY!! The Mighty Bear has awoken from his Mid-Summer Hibernation!!

-Tone

USPatriot
08-11-2004, 01:44 PM
..... :cool: .....

jdwca
08-11-2004, 01:57 PM
John i never wrote that, tone was at my house and i left him unsupervised at my comp. I really hope you dont think of me that way, that stuff tone wrote is a bunch of crap that he pulled out of his arse, o really hope you dont think of me that way,
Mike K., this one is for you: :tongue:

Hey, Mike C., sorry for the spanking! That was one wicked prank by Tone!

I edited my last post and took the spanking out of it. You may want to edit your post with my quote in it, so it'll be gone.

BTW, did you get my PM? E-mail me at jwilliams@surgebatterymatching.com

-jon

USPatriot
08-11-2004, 02:18 PM
Mike K., this one is for you: :tongue:

Hey, Mike C., sorry for the spanking! That was one wicked prank by Tone!

I edited my last post and took the spanking out of it. You may want to edit your post with my quote in it, so it'll be gone.

BTW, did you get my PM? E-mail me at jwilliams@surgebatterymatching.com

-jon

ITs all good, here are some of the other things tone did to me yesterday: broke my only bike, pulled his pants down and wiped his arse on my back while i was fixen my quad twice, picked me up and droped me on my back, and picked my up and hurled me into a bush

If you emailed me i dont know if i got it because i got new internet service, so i have to figure out my new em and i will let you know

MixMastaMM
08-11-2004, 02:19 PM
Mike K., this one is for you: :tongue:

Hey, Mike C., sorry for the spanking! That was one wicked prank by Tone!

I edited my last post and took the spanking out of it. You may want to edit your post with my quote in it, so it'll be gone.

BTW, did you get my PM? E-mail me at jwilliams@surgebatterymatching.com

-jon

Hey john: :tongue: right back at you

I like how you quoted his post.


Mike

nicwald
08-11-2004, 02:19 PM
On another matter: I'm selling my 12th scale. It's the same car that won three races last season in mod.

Associated 12L3
6 (Surge, SMC) 4 cell packs - in mint condition and will be rezapped for free
1 LRP 7.1 Speed Control
1 Protoform Speed body
1 JR High-speed servo
1 IRS Pinned diff axle
Plenty of extra tires and parts

$250 (*possibly* negotiable)

-jon
www.surgebatterymatching.com (http://www.surgebatterymatching.com/)
Resistance is Futile!
Thats a great deal! I'd jump on it if I wanted another 12th scale, all those batteries, servo and esc, that is a heck off a deal! That price would be good for the speed control batteries and servo alone!

Nick

USPatriot
08-11-2004, 02:34 PM
Rofl... ya see, i am more a child than some of the chilluns.... personally, i think the kid needs a smackdown in truck..... WHO'S GONNA GIVE IT TO HIM???? i know that i cant - this is motivation for everyone!!!!!!!

-Tone

YOu really are an arse, i cant tell if that is a compliment or a threat, lol w/e

USPatriot
08-11-2004, 02:56 PM
Gary i was reading about you guys taking a ride up to marshalls sunday, i think i might make my way up there also, i just got to find a ride

eviltone
08-11-2004, 05:11 PM
YOu really are an arse, i cant tell if that is a compliment or a threat, lol w/e
heh... HEHEHEHHE... HEHEHEHEHEHE... heh....

-TOne

eviltone
08-11-2004, 05:15 PM
ok, now that i put my immaturity aside......

i went out to Cruzin today to check on that O.S. only one they had was the rotary carb, and i asked if they would be able to order me the slide carb..... i hope they are able to get it! they even have the Nova RC head for the O.S. .18 cvrx which is a plus too... i just hope they pull thru for me!!

-Tone

eviltone
08-11-2004, 05:20 PM
Mike K., this one is for you: :tongue:

Hey, Mike C., sorry for the spanking! That was one wicked prank by Tone!

I edited my last post and took the spanking out of it. You may want to edit your post with my quote in it, so it'll be gone.

BTW, did you get my PM? E-mail me at jwilliams@surgebatterymatching.com

-jon
Jon, i feel wicked bad about the prank too now... and he is right, nothin compares to the TOTAL "Poop on Cheese day" that was yesterday...... Twiggy sent his quad in to a tree, and erik and craig were being toolboxes.... i was surrounded by immaturity.... and i succumbed to my childish side! man, i dont deserve to live after that one!!
i have some questions about batteries that i think (i actually hope) you might be able to answer.... i'll PM you if you wouldnt mind... its about zapping/matching and cells.... i think you'll understand once i PM them- of course, if it is ok....

-Tone

eviltone
08-11-2004, 05:24 PM
oh yah... one more quick thing... WHERE ARE THE DAMN RESULTS??? hehe i wanna relish in my win... its the only time that it'll happen prolly..... i wann print them bizzzzznotches up......

-Tone

Royce_Andrews
08-11-2004, 07:45 PM
Hello All,
Looking for some advise here. The T-Maxx motor is blown (No compression @ temp). It's a OS CVRX 15. There is a sick upgrade for this engine that uses a Copper Tungsten sleeve with a ceramic / graphite piston that is resistant to high temperatures. The cost for this upgrade is only about $100. I'm unsure of the performance benefits, but would like to explore other options such as a complete engine replacement. This is a legacy max with side exhaust.
Thanks All !!! Rory

kybob
08-11-2004, 07:58 PM
Nick,

What would the rules be for tspec if we were to race them indoors?

Gary NJ
08-11-2004, 08:07 PM
Hello All,
Looking for some advise here. The T-Maxx motor is blown (No compression @ temp). It's a OS CVRX 15. There is a sick upgrade for this engine that uses a Copper Tungsten sleeve with a ceramic / graphite piston that is resistant to high temperatures. The cost for this upgrade is only about $100. I'm unsure of the performance benefits, but would like to explore other options such as a complete engine replacement. This is a legacy max with side exhaust.
Thanks All !!! RoryRory - My advice would be the same I gave Tone below - the OS CVR 18. In your case, since you are already setup for side exhaust, it should be a dropin. Invest in the right pipe. With heavy trucks like a Maxx that need torque, there is no substitute for cubic inches...

If you've run the current OS long enough to wear out the piston and sleeve, you should probably also be thinking about a new rod and bearings. At that point you're up to the price of a new 18, and you've still only got a 15.

Gary

eviltone
08-11-2004, 09:02 PM
Rory - My advice would be the same I gave Tone below - the OS CVR 18. In your case, since you are already setup for side exhaust, it should be a dropin. Invest in the right pipe. With heavy trucks like a Maxx that need torque, there is no substitute for cubic inches...

If you've run the current OS long enough to wear out the piston and sleeve, you should probably also be thinking about a new rod and bearings. At that point you're up to the price of a new 18, and you've still only got a 15.

Gary
but since he is set up old style, he can use the rotary carb, right???

the o.s. .18cv-rx is mose assuridly mine! i'll prolly get it if Ron can get it!

-Tone

craftmastaschiz
08-11-2004, 09:03 PM
mike hall what is this i hear that u rent racing anymore and if u rent can i stop by to get my motor

sean cant drive
08-11-2004, 11:17 PM
does anyone know jasons phone number or at least the town that he lives in? if anyone does please pm it to me

MixMastaMM
08-11-2004, 11:23 PM
mike hall what is this i hear that u rent racing anymore and if u rent can i stop by to get my motor


Mike If you rent racing, can you let me know how much you rent it for??

Mike

sean cant drive
08-11-2004, 11:28 PM
Mike If you rent racing, can you let me know how much you rent it for??

Mike
hahaha craig, learn how to spell aren't ya retard:hat:

LordKruel
08-11-2004, 11:40 PM
Sunday was a blast even though I got smoked in 2 of the 3 classes I ran in! I had a ton of fun! :D Crashing into everything (and everyone) in the dark was cool too till I broke my new MF2, but it's easily fixable and will be ready to be broken again on another raceday soon.
What wasn't fun was watching a few of my new DR friends getting hurt while marshalling... I know 3 people who got burnt :eek: and another had his finger ripped open marshalling the 1/8 race :( !
All of these were obviously accidental, but I was thinking that there should be gloves available (or maybe required) for marshalling in the interest of everyone's safety.
Any thoughts on this?

>> I vote, gloves and lights!

"If nothing broke, you drove too slow!"

LordKruel
08-11-2004, 11:47 PM
Rory - My advice would be the same I gave Tone below - the OS CVR 18. In your case, since you are already setup for side exhaust, it should be a dropin. Invest in the right pipe. With heavy trucks like a Maxx that need torque, there is no substitute for cubic inches...

If you've run the current OS long enough to wear out the piston and sleeve, you should probably also be thinking about a new rod and bearings. At that point you're up to the price of a new 18, and you've still only got a 15.

Gary

I'm new to the Nitro world and would appreciate some advice on a Revo upgrade. I'm looking at a Sirio TX-18 (3.0) Nitro Engine. They claim "DIRECT BOLT-IN FITS T-MAXX 2.5 & EZ START 2" which sounds like it would be drop in for the Revo. Am I guessing right on this one and if so, is the TX-18 going to make much of a difference??? :confused:

MixMastaMM
08-12-2004, 12:15 AM
Sunday was a blast even though I got smoked in 2 of the 3 classes I ran in! I had a ton of fun! :D Crashing into everything (and everyone) in the dark was cool too till I broke my new MF2, but it's easily fixable and will be ready to be broken again on another raceday soon.
What wasn't fun was watching a few of my new DR friends getting hurt while marshalling... I know 3 people who got burnt :eek: and another had his finger ripped open marshalling the 1/8 race :( !
All of these were obviously accidental, but I was thinking that there should be gloves available (or maybe required) for marshalling in the interest of everyone's safety.
Any thoughts on this?

>> I vote, gloves and lights!

"If nothing broke, you drove too slow!"

There are gloves available, they are in the truck. We have put them out in the past, but no one takes them. I agree that no one should get hurt, but if you marshall a gas race with out gloves, you have to expect to get burnt or have a finger cut.

Mike

Gary NJ
08-12-2004, 12:16 AM
Sunday was a blast even though I got smoked in 2 of the 3 classes I ran in! I had a ton of fun! :D Crashing into everything (and everyone) in the dark was cool too till I broke my new MF2, but it's easily fixable and will be ready to be broken again on another raceday soon.
What wasn't fun was watching a few of my new DR friends getting hurt while marshalling... I know 3 people who got burnt :eek: and another had his finger ripped open marshalling the 1/8 race :( !
All of these were obviously accidental, but I was thinking that there should be gloves available (or maybe required) for marshalling in the interest of everyone's safety.
Any thoughts on this?

>> I vote, gloves and lights!

"If nothing broke, you drove too slow!"
We will have lights for the next race.

You're on a great point concerning the gloves. My son Kevin and I earlier this year noticed a young woman who occasionally races with us at DR, Kristen, wearing gloves when she marshalled, and we thought it was a great idea. He got both of us a pair of the Mechanix Wear gloves for my birthday last month, which we now wear when we marshall. We both feel much safer, and they help protect aginst pipe and clutch burns, and finger cuts like the one Rob got Sunday. I don't think that the club should provide and keep track of gloves, but personally, I won't marshall or pit for someone running nitro again without wearing them. I want my own so I can have them in my toolbox wherever I go to race. Again, great observation.

And I'm glad you had such a good time racing Sunday!

Gary

Gary NJ
08-12-2004, 12:19 AM
There are gloves available, they are in the truck. We have put them out in the past, but no one takes them. I agree that no one should get hurt, but if you marshall a gas race with out gloves, you have to expect to get burnt or have a finger cut.

Mike
I didn't know that we have gloves, Mike -- taht's great!! Wayne should bring the point up that we have gloves at the driver's meeting - they really do help!

Gary NJ
08-12-2004, 12:26 AM
I'm new to the Nitro world and would appreciate some advice on a Revo upgrade. I'm looking at a Sirio TX-18 (3.0) Nitro Engine. They claim "DIRECT BOLT-IN FITS T-MAXX 2.5 & EZ START 2" which sounds like it would be drop in for the Revo. Am I guessing right on this one and if so, is the TX-18 going to make much of a difference??? :confused:
I'm sure that this advice is worth what you paid for it, but if I had a new Revo and I was racing it at a track as short as DR, I wouldn't worry about HP if the stock 2,5 was working ok (and it sounds like the 2.5's in the Revos are generally running pretty reliably). I think you'd be better off putting your time and money into making the truck lighter and more responsive: ditch the two steering servos and replace them with a good single one, ditch the reverse and optidrive, replace the EZstart with a pullstart or Rotostart or bumpbox, replace the stock tires, get all the various option springs and rockers, etc and fool around with suspension setup and gearing. I think you'll get a lot more bang for the buck going in that direction. As you lighten the truck it will have the net affect of accelerating harder anyway.

combatcm
08-12-2004, 03:23 AM
I can recall numerous times when the driver of an overturned car would just lay on the throttle while overturned. Specifically one time where a monster truck flipped and they layed on the throttle while the marshal kid just sat there until the wheels slowed down, the driver just didn't get it.

nicwald
08-12-2004, 10:36 AM
oh yah... one more quick thing... WHERE ARE THE DAMN RESULTS??? hehe i wanna relish in my win... its the only time that it'll happen prolly..... i wann print them bizzzzznotches up......

-Tone
When Wayne has time, he'll send them my way and I can post them.

Nick

Gary NJ
08-12-2004, 10:39 AM
When Wayne has time, he'll send them my way and I can post them.

Nick
Nick - We should have 'em out to you tonite...had a little technical issue with the Meile family PC. They're coming to me today via sneakernet. ;) Gary

nicwald
08-12-2004, 10:45 AM
Nick,

What would the rules be for tspec if we were to race them indoors?They would be very similar to the street spec rules we run now. Trinity hasn't put out official rules yet, but I know what the main ideas will be.



No aftermarket parts, cars must remain in stock form.

Must use spec battery and motor.

Since we're running on carpet, TRC makes spec foam tires (easy to tech with a red rim).

Speed control can retail for no more than 130.

Any radio/receiver/servo.

Gear ratio will be limited to a range of pinions and a set spur size. (The car comes with a spur and composite pinion).

Must cut body on cut line.

No cutting/drilling/lightening anything on the car in anyway.

Must use Spec brushes in the motor, and they can not be treated and/or cut.

The car comes with ball bearings throughout the car, except in the ball diffs (4 bushings). With Street Spec, trinity allows all bearings, even though the spec comes with bushings in the right side hub, so they may allow bearings in the ball diffs.



I think that’s a good starting point, and I'm sure this is how the rules will be from Trinity.


The intent for this class is to keep racing costs down and for anyone to be able to buy a car and be competitive. When I get to try the car on the track and play with the setup I'll let everyone know what is working for me.

I'm going to start out with purple rear tires, plaid front tires, probably 50 wt oil all the way around, no sway bar, 5mm ride height. Probably 0 degrees or 1 degree of toe in the front, probably 1 or 2 in the rear, and -2 degrees camber on all 4 corners



I am impressed with the car, especially for $140 with battery and motor, and it comes built. I rebuilt the car just to see if there was much I could do to make it more efficient, and the number one thing I would do, is to add shims to the differential assembly, but I do not know if that will be legal in the rules, so I'm holding off on that till the official rules are released. With out breaking in the car, I think it is pretty efficient and has good potential.


Nick

nicwald
08-12-2004, 10:50 AM
Nick - We should have 'em out to you tonite...had a little technical issue with the Meile family PC. They're coming to me today via sneakernet. ;) Gary
There you go Tone!

Nick

nicwald
08-12-2004, 11:01 AM
I can recall numerous times when the driver of an overturned car would just lay on the throttle while overturned. Specifically one time where a monster truck flipped and they layed on the throttle while the marshal kid just sat there until the wheels slowed down, the driver just didn't get it.
People do that with electric cars too! Some people will just never learn.

Nick

eviltone
08-12-2004, 12:52 PM
When Wayne has time, he'll send them my way and I can post them.

Nickhehehehehehe i am a royal pain in the arse!!!

-Tone

nicwald
08-12-2004, 02:34 PM
Check this out, I think it might come on handy!

http://www.westmountainradio.com/CBA.htm


Nick