craig what time

ok, i've been searching and searching for tmaxx engines.... all that i can come up with is
https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/seekpart.pl?pn=S18TX&showbig=6809
being the TRinity Sirio .18.... its the same price as the O.S. but it looks to be an absolute drop in... the O.S. seems to need a crank cut, and a conversion to rotary carb linkage.. the only O.S. .18 that i have found with a slide carb says it is for ONROAD applications... plus the othe suckworthy thing about a new engine HAS to be the fact that my one-piece racing pipe CANT be used with ANY of the new engines.... so i gotta get a new pipe too!! if i get the Sirio -0 and its lookin to be the best IN STOCK EVERYWHERE option, i'll prolly get the Pipe that they recommend as well... i am kinda bummed tho... i was really interested in the Fantom FR.18, but NO ONE has them... maybe i need more info on the O.S. NS HOW TO APPLY IT TO THE RMAXX - I'VE SEARCHED, BUT I HAVENT FOUND ANY INFO AS OF YET.... damn caps lock... i am TOOOOOO lazxy to retype... this is a suckworthy problem tho.....

-Tone

Tone, this would be the OS 18 you'd want: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGGP6&P=0. Farther down in the description it says it is for onroad applications, but that is only because as a general rule you run slide valve carbs in onroad, rotary in offroad. Of course, the TMaxx is an exception, as are 1/8th buggies. The slide vs rotary thing offroad is not an issue with 4WD like it is with say 1/10 gas truck. You would definately want the slide carb version in a TMaxx. I understand all you need with this motor in a TMaxx is the clutch nut used on the older Maxxes (pre 2.5, can't remember the name) and then the clutch from your 2.5 bolts right on. As to the exhaust, yes it is a side exhaust, so you need the header from the old Maxx, too, and a straight pipe. Just make sure whatever you use for the pipe that it is something more for a big block application. Personally, I'd be looking at 1/8th scale pipes, or at a minmum a pipe from an outlaw 15. Don't run something overly restrictive. Price on the OS is also quite a bit cheaper than the Sirio.

Kevin and I have had good luck with our Fantoms, and I'd still take the Fantom over the Sirio, especially on our track (Fantom is very torquey) but if I was buying today for myself I'd go OS. The OS's weren't out yet when we bought our Fantoms.

http://www.sears.com/sr/javasr/product.do?BV_UseBVCookie=Yes&vertical=TOOL&pid=03473925000&subcat=Work+Lights
^^light solution^^????

Do they come off the stand? If so you cant put them up on the drivers stand and put some poles around the track.

Do they come off the stand? If so you cant put them up on the drivers stand and put some poles around the track.I don't think the lights would be a permanent fixture, I think they would be removable, so we can store them in the truck, if this is what we're planning on doing...heck...I don't know what's going on!



Nick

I don't think the lights would be a permanent fixture, I think they would be removable, so we can store them in the truck, if this is what we're planning on doing...heck...I don't know what's going on!



Nick

I second that. I really dont think the lights would work. Nick remember band practice on the front field with the lights? We would have to get lights like in a parking lot to do anything. BTW I think charlie is going to order some dirt for the offroad track. He said its showing some wear. :eek:

I just noticed that the 'new' thread is now longer than the 'old' thread. :tongue: :eek:

Mike


:jest:

Tone, this would be the OS 18 you'd want: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGGP6&P=0. Farther down in the description it says it is for onroad applications, but that is only because as a general rule you run slide valve carbs in onroad, rotary in offroad. Of course, the TMaxx is an exception, as are 1/8th buggies. The slide vs rotary thing offroad is not an issue with 4WD like it is with say 1/10 gas truck. You would definately want the slide carb version in a TMaxx. I understand all you need with this motor in a TMaxx is the clutch nut used on the older Maxxes (pre 2.5, can't remember the name) and then the clutch from your 2.5 bolts right on. As to the exhaust, yes it is a side exhaust, so you need the header from the old Maxx, too, and a straight pipe. Just make sure whatever you use for the pipe that it is something more for a big block application. Personally, I'd be looking at 1/8th scale pipes, or at a minmum a pipe from an outlaw 15. Don't run something overly restrictive. Price on the OS is also quite a bit cheaper than the Sirio.

Kevin and I have had good luck with our Fantoms, and I'd still take the Fantom over the Sirio, especially on our track (Fantom is very torquey) but if I was buying today for myself I'd go OS. The OS's weren't out yet when we bought our Fantoms.
So basically..... hrmpff.... i'd need to JerryRig it with a different Nut.... hmm... i dunno if that is what i wanna do then.... damnit! if you can find a link to like some sorta instructions or something, b4 i find any.. .that'd be great! i would love to wait for the fantom tho.......

-TOne

I just noticed that the 'new' thread is now longer than the 'old' thread. :tongue: :eek:

Mike


:jest:Figures....... NUTSACK

-Tone

Figures....... NUTSACK

-Tone

Cheese? :thumbsup:

I just noticed that the 'new' thread is now longer than the 'old' thread. :tongue: :eek:

Mike


:jest:
Maybe we should start another thread? Na, I think we should shoot for 5000 posts in this one!

Nick

I second that. I really dont think the lights would work. Nick remember band practice on the front field with the lights? We would have to get lights like in a parking lot to do anything. BTW I think charlie is going to order some dirt for the offroad track. He said its showing some wear. :eek:
We are really going to get it now, you had to drag in band practice, here come the 'band camp' jokes.


Nick

We are really going to get it now, you had to drag in band practice, here come the 'band camp' jokes.


Nick

Esh I didnt even think about that. Sorry :freak:

Maybe we should start another thread? Na, I think we should shoot for 500 posts in this one!

Nick
I'm game.


Mike

I'm game.


Mike
er, 5000 I mean...I think we should stick with this one till Hankster tells us to make a new one...


Nick

er, 5000 I mean...I think we should stick with this one till Hankster tells us to make a new one...


Nick

your the Boss

Mike

your the Boss

Mike
No, Tony Danza is the boss!

Nick

So basically..... hrmpff.... i'd need to JerryRig it with a different Nut.... hmm... i dunno if that is what i wanna do then.... damnit! if you can find a link to like some sorta instructions or something, b4 i find any.. .that'd be great! i would love to wait for the fantom tho.......

-TOneTone, Tone...you can do this! You're not jerryrigging anything, you're just using the standard Traxxas clutch nut for an engine that doesn't have an integrated pilot shaft. The nut, besides holding on the flywheel, also has a smooth surface for the clutch bell bearings to ride on. Here's the link http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJF69&P=0

As to the header you need, it's also a standard standard Traxxas item http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXSP45&P=0

I'm sure both Zeppelin and Cruisin' would have these parts in stock - they're easy to find, standard stuff.

No, Tony Danza is the boss!

Nick

I want Charles in charge of me!!

Mike

yumm, THe only thing i could think of :dude:

hey everybody,
I quit. who wants to buy an almost new MF2 and BK2. i am also selling my gt7 and a few of my batts. i am sick of racing and winning, so i am gonna be making a move and building a street basher car.
Oh well, if you're not having fun, its time to move on! Enjoy the bashing!

I'm sure we all will miss the competition.


Nick

I want Charles in charge of me!!

Mike
Who doesn't! <insert high pitch girl scream here>

Nick

Will someone buy me this, please?


http://www.hardinge.com/Pages/163_millpwr.html


Nick

We are really going to get it now, you had to drag in band practice, here come the 'band camp' jokes.


Nick
" And one time at band camp ..... " :jest:

Do they come off the stand? If so you cant put them up on the drivers stand and put some poles around the track.
I have one or two of these light set-ups and would be willing to bring them to try out at the next race . They extend up about 6' they just get real hot.

Maybe we should run all the races after the sun goes down, that way everyone will be equally PO'ed not just the guys in the last couple of heats....just a thought. :)

I'll find out what we use at the Barn - We race under the lights on Friday nights and you can see the whole track w/ no problem. The lights are not a permanent fixture - they can be taken down and put away very easily. I'll let you know.

Sammie O.

How about painting the bodies w/ glow in the dark paint? or neon lights around the body? Any other ideas? Let's hear them!! Could get pretty creative.:)

I think there's a full moon on August 30, 2004, yea I know its a Monday.

hey everybody,
I quit. who wants to buy an almost new MF2 and BK2. i am also selling my gt7 and a few of my batts. i am sick of racing and winning, so i am gonna be making a move and building a street basher car.
Mike? what is WRONG w/ you??? hey... i'll buy that mf2 if you are really selling it!!!

-TOne

I think there's a full moon on August 30, 2004, yea I know its a Monday.
there can be a full moon at any race... just ask wayne to drop his drawrers again.....

-Tone

hey everybody,
I quit. who wants to buy an almost new MF2 and BK2. i am also selling my gt7 and a few of my batts. i am sick of racing and winning, so i am gonna be making a move and building a street basher car.

I'll buy ur batteries

How about STARTING when the schedule says we will
How about NOT taking entries at 10:55 when they are supposed to close at 10:15
How about keeping to TWO minutes between heats (you're not ready you don't run, if you ever plan on running big events get used to it)
How about NOT running the B's first (run 'em if ya got time)
How about all classes running the same length
How about limiting entries to a reasonable number
How about if you are called to the computer to resolve freq conflicts and you are NOT there to resolve you do not run
And let's not even start with the MARSHALLS, we need MARSHALS, you run, take out the transponder and GET ON THE TRACK

Yup, I was in the 8:30 pm main after showing up at 8:15 Am to START ON TIME, Yup my car is toast since it was hit so many times since none could see.

Oh, and good thing we didn't run the sprinters... (3 car B mains didn't help either...)

How about STARTING when the schedule says we will
How about NOT taking entries at 10:55 when they are supposed to close at 10:15
How about keeping to TWO minutes between heats (you're not ready you don't run, if you ever plan on running big events get used to it)
How about NOT running the B's first (run 'em if ya got time)
How about all classes running the same length
How about limiting entries to a reasonable number
How about if you are called to the computer to resolve freq conflicts and you are NOT there to resolve you do not run
And let's not even start with the MARSHALLS, we need MARSHALS, you run, take out the transponder and GET ON THE TRACK

Yup, I was in the 8:30 pm main after showing up at 8:15 Am to START ON TIME, Yup my car is toast since it was hit so many times since none could see.

Oh, and good thing we didn't run the sprinters... (3 car B mains didn't help either...)
wow............................................... ....................

-Tone

5 min. without blinking my eyes. What fun!

http://www.night-vision-goggles.com/

Maybe we should run all the races after the sun goes down, that way everyone will be equally PO'ed not just the guys in the last couple of heats....just a thought. :)

charlie i talked to u at the last race about lights and i u guys deside on lights tell me and i could get them or allready have some at teh stor since i work at a hardware store and i couold probably get them at a good price since i workthere i get 20% off

Mike? what is WRONG w/ you??? hey... i'll buy that mf2 if you are really selling it!!!

-TOne


no tone i want it and oh wait i got erything he has and more so nevermind

charlie i was wondering since i am not racing at the next race if i can drop off the dirtrunners challange thing at zepplins and if u rent ther if i could give it to someone to give to u

thanks craig

How about STARTING when the schedule says we will
How about NOT taking entries at 10:55 when they are supposed to close at 10:15
How about keeping to TWO minutes between heats (you're not ready you don't run, if you ever plan on running big events get used to it)
How about NOT running the B's first (run 'em if ya got time)
How about all classes running the same length
How about limiting entries to a reasonable number
How about if you are called to the computer to resolve freq conflicts and you are NOT there to resolve you do not run
And let's not even start with the MARSHALLS, we need MARSHALS, you run, take out the transponder and GET ON THE TRACK

Yup, I was in the 8:30 pm main after showing up at 8:15 Am to START ON TIME, Yup my car is toast since it was hit so many times since none could see.

Oh, and good thing we didn't run the sprinters... (3 car B mains didn't help either...)
Well Jim, I'll go out on a limb here and start with the assumption that you were offering constructive comments in the spirit of wanting to help the club and our racing. That said, I'll throw in my two cents on your ideas and observations.

"How about STARTING when the schedule says we will
How about NOT taking entries at 10:55 when they are supposed to close at 10:15". I guess these two go together, and I honestly don't have any personal knowledge of whether entries were indeed accepted late. Wayne would have to be the one to comment on that. I know Wayne was working with Samantha to help get her acclimated to entering the racers, but I don't think that had any significant impact on the start time. We did have a huge number of frequency conflicts, owing to a lot of new racers, and a lot of new racers on 27mhz. We also had a problem with a single racer who we just couldn't get resolved. He was using a less common brand of radio that required him to use that manufacturer's crystals. He ended up coming up with four different frequencies, none of which was without conflicts. He was certainly making a good faith effort to get a setup that would work. The problem with sorting out the conflicts is that we have to resolve them one at a time. The good news is that over time, once the # of entries stabilizes, the frequency conflicts tend to dissappear as people in the a given class naturally gravitate to frequency that don't conflict with others in the class. By the end of the indoor season last year, we were getting over 100 entries and having zero frequency conflicts.

"How about keeping to TWO minutes between heats (you're not ready you don't run, if you ever plan on running big events get used to it)". Well, speaking as someone who has done a bit of the announcing this year, we do run on a two minute clock between heats, and we really do try to keep to it...and in a large percentage of races, we get the next race off in less than two minutes. We don't try and "push" the clock in the gas races, because those guys need the warmups (and two minutes is actually too short a warmup for gas). The things that hose this up are: 1st, when we have a racer running in back to back classes. This does happen occasionally no matter how we rearrange the heats, and we just try to accomodate that as best we can; and 2nd, we can't start if a racer doesn't have a transponder available to put in his car. This IS an area that we could use help with from everyone. If the racers would get off the drivers stand quickly, return the transponders, not go back to the pits with cars and radios and instead just get right out to marshall it would help. We all are guilty of not doing this at times - me included - and we should all be more consciensious about it!!

"How about NOT running the B's first (run 'em if ya got time)" We feel very strongly that everyone who races at DR deserves to run in a main, wherever they qualify. We always run the low mains first (just like every other track does), and we will soon start running bump ups from the low mains in the nitro classes, since they only get one chance to qualify. For bump ups to work the low mains have to run first.

"How about all classes running the same length". Basically, they all do. The gas classes race a total of 15 minutes (1 5 min qualifier, 1 10 minute main). Electrics run 12 minutes (2 4 min qualifiers, and a 4 minute main). The electric racers had a proposal in front of them at the rules meeting to make the electric classes all 5 minutes (proposed by me), and the electric racers voted to stay at 4 minutes. With the exception of novice and Rustler Spec, I can't begin to understand why they voted it down. 5 minute heats would have given the electrics 15 minutes of race time, same as gas. And we save time in the gas classes by running 1 5 minute gas qualifier and a 10 minute main, as opposed to 2 5 minute qualifiers and a 5 minute main.

"How about limiting entries to a reasonable number". So what does this mean? Only so many people get to race? What is your specific suggestion?

"How about if you are called to the computer to resolve freq conflicts and you are NOT there to resolve you do not run" As I said above, the number of conflicts we had this week were very unusual, and not typical. We sent certain individuals, one in particular, back to his pits repeatedly before we could solution him.

"And let's not even start with the MARSHALLS, we need MARSHALS, you run, take out the transponder and GET ON THE TRACK" As I said above, agreed, and it is something we all need to work on together.

I read an underlying tone in your comments that the board should get tougher and meaner and "make the trains run on time". Let me tell you Jim, I don't see the board moving in the direction of making a day racing at DR look like being a day at work. They are trying to keep this fun, and balance the need to have a schedule and get done, while still keeping the tone light and positive and fun. You don't achieve that balance by yelling at the racers and finding ways to exclude people. I spend at least an hour after every race with Wayne on the phone, and speaking with Charlie in person, dissecting the previous week and trying to find ways to tweak and improve the process while raising the fun quotient. These guys work on both morale and process with equal enthusiasm, and the result of their effort is seen in entry counts for weekly club races that dwarf other tracks "big races".

Charlie and Wayne are always looking for good ideas, and they haven't cornered the market on them, so feel free to pass 'em along.

Gary

Since we're not running this coming Sunday, and since the Barn crew is all heading up to RC Madness, Wayne, Chris and I are going on a road trip to Marshalls to race offroad on Sunday...anyone from DR wanna go?

Signups close at 11:30, races start at 12. Two qualifiers and a main. (All 5 minutes in electric, 5 min Qs in nitro, 15 minute main). Bill at Marshalls said they always have a 1/10 gas truck class, and 1/10 electric truck class (always run stock - with DR club stock motors - and sometimes mod). Also TMaxx, 1/8th scale buggy. He will run a class for 3 of anything. Post here if anyone is interested in taking a ride, and what classes you might run. I have a few club stock motors if anyone needs one to run stock. Let me know if you have any questions and we'll get answers. The long range weather forecast for the weekend looks great!!

Road trip, road trip, road trip.....

hey everybody,
I quit. who wants to buy an almost new MF2 and BK2. i am also selling my gt7 and a few of my batts. i am sick of racing and winning, so i am gonna be making a move and building a street basher car.
Mike - My advice is if you need a break now, take it, but don't sell yet. Put the stuff on the shelf, and see how you feel in the spring. If you don't have the itch then, sell it. There isn't going to be anything new out from either Losi or AE between now and then that will make your stuff worth any less if you sell it then rather than now. If you do get the itch agin, and you've sold your program, it'll be much harder to get back in. Take it from someone who's made the mistake before.

Since we're not running this coming Sunday, and since the Barn crew is all heading up to RC Madness, Wayne, Chris and I are going on a road trip to Marshalls to race offroad on Sunday...anyone from DR wanna go?

Signups close at 11:30, races start at 12. Two qualifiers and a main. (All 5 minutes in electric, 5 min Qs in nitro, 15 minute main). Bill at Marshalls said they always have a 1/10 gas truck class, and 1/10 electric truck class (always run stock - with DR club stock motors - and sometimes mod). Also TMaxx, 1/8th scale buggy. He will run a class for 3 of anything. Post here if anyone is interested in taking a ride, and what classes you might run. I have a few club stock motors if anyone needs one to run stock. Let me know if you have any questions and we'll get answers. The long range weather forecast for the weekend looks great!!

Road trip, road trip, road trip.....
Offroad, eh??
i take it OVAL is only on saturday??? i wanna run that mini-t on the oval... hmm... well... i am gonna be going on sunday w/ my t4 and all i got is a MOD motor (i think it still works.....) and i am supposed to bring RYAN and Craig too.... so sunday would be good... is there somewhere we could meet to get it together??? i would love to go on saturday for the oval.......

-Tone

also.... GARY..... i would assume the O.S. uses the same motor mount, correct?? i am definately gonna get it, no doubt, if it works as such!!!

-Tone

Marshalls runs on their asphalt oval Saturday night at 6pm, don't have any other details. Are Ryan and Craig running mod truck too, or do you wanna run stock? I'll bring mine, and I think Chris will drag his along.

Marshalls is easy to get to off Rt 84...u need directions?

also.... GARY..... i would assume the O.S. uses the same motor mount, correct?? i am definately gonna get it, no doubt, if it works as such!!!

-Tone
Wayne can confirm, but I'm positive it does.

Marshalls runs on their asphalt oval Saturday night at 6pm, don't have any other details. Are Ryan and Craig running mod truck too, or do you wanna run stock? I'll bring mine, and I think Chris will drag his along.

Marshalls is easy to get to off Rt 84...u need directions?
yah directions or someone to follow would be good... we're all running mod.... since thats all we got, and i really dont wanna learn to drive w/ a stock motor......

-Tone

ok so i've been comparing the O.S. 1.18cv-rx and the Sirio/Trinity .18 and it looks like a complete toss up.... the trinity just looks soooo goood.... it'll use my ez start and its a direct drop in.... and the pipe that they recommend is only 40 bux... and it is coming w/ a manifold too....

but i like the awesome tunability of the O.S.... justa pain in the ass to get it to work (i hate buying manifilds......)
GOSH DARNED IT!!!!!

-Tone

Marshalls runs on their asphalt oval Saturday night at 6pm, don't have any other details. Are Ryan and Craig running mod truck too, or do you wanna run stock? I'll bring mine, and I think Chris will drag his along.

Marshalls is easy to get to off Rt 84...u need directions?

ryan and i wanted to race truck offroad r all u guys goin to wval or offroad and what tires r good and how much a car to race
idk i just got 2 new mod motors and idk what i want to run now cuz i got a paridime motor my d6 and my vantage and i just gave tone my stock motor with my rustler

does anyone have the marshals website

ok so tone i am staying at ryans house the night befor we go to marshals and will u just pick us up oh yea and one more thing

SHOTGUN!!!!! hahaha