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Shumacher 99
12-12-2004, 12:07 PM
George I sent the pics for ya..... Thanks for runnin the races Sat. I hope I helped out enough. Helping my brother get back in the game was time consuming...lol but he finally got it in the main...

Shumacher 99
12-12-2004, 12:08 PM
Butts I think your getting a major whoopin to 1000 posts.. oh thats 976 :confused:

David Butts
12-12-2004, 12:42 PM
Butts I think your getting a major whoopin to 1000 posts.. oh thats 976 :confused:

I feel like I've been Tied to the whoopin post? Where've I heard that before. Or was that I've been whooped by the posting king? I think I have it now. I've been bested on my post's by the whooped one.:p

David Butts
12-12-2004, 04:04 PM
Jeremy, Give me a call at either 860 5390 or 282 6557. Thx, Everyone else forget you saw those two numbers or I'll send my two dogs to your houses and they'll pee on your christmas tree's.:rolleyes:
ttt we go

travymoto1
12-12-2004, 04:47 PM
now onto bigger this there is only two words to describe the main in 19t car. F@&^!NG SAVAGES. The 7 other drivers should be assamed. all I can say is Ernie barely survied the battle he lead most of the race and yes was taken out while leading!!! SAVAGES HACKERS what ever you want to call it but it is NOT COOL. now I have a a little advice to offer to some of you. If you drive off into turn one and the car spins out PULL IT it isn't going to fix it's selve!!!!!!!!!!! put 2 rounds in the RR and 2 rounds out of LR now if you running fine and have a wreck and the cars starts doing crazy things like spinning out or pushing up into the wall PULL IT THE CAR IS BROKEN.

POINT BEING IS THAT HACK FEST COST BE ABOUT 45 BUCKS BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD USE THERE F#@!$%G HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dave , now tell us how you REALLY feel...LOL

I agree with you .... that was a "free-for-all-hack-fest" yesturday. You know it's bad when you try to let someone pass you by going high...AND HE STILL DOOR PASSES YOU and spins you out.
:eek: It did'n't really matter though because he was like the 3rd person to do it. Oh well. There is always next time. Funny thing was ... my car felt the best it did all dayt in the main. I just couldn't find an open piece of track to save my life.

DEI.2
12-12-2004, 08:32 PM
Chris, thanks for taking the time to take pictures of the winners of each race. If I manage to win a race my dad in Omaha can see it. Thats means alot to me. George, putting up the pictures of the winners is one of the best ideas that anybody has come up with for the website. Thanks. :thumbsup:

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 07:23 AM
Since I have been racing at HW I have never understood why we start the race in a turn..This baffels me because the cars are getting up to speed from a stop 1 foot away from 9 other cars and then you go into a bottle neck to get down the back stretch.. Alot of the wrecks can be eliminated by starting on the back strectch. And it will create spaceing at the beginning of the race for the drivers to get in there rythm. This will not fix the cluster F that happened in 19 turn sat. but it will help out the starts of the races.Stricklands is way smaller and they got it figured out. After this series or asap I think we should seriously consider changing where we start the race. Everyone I have ever asked said the same thing, "I don't know why we start in the turn" or "yeah we should start on the bakstretch". In 4 cell stock it's not that bad because your really not going till lap 3 and we are free of savages ...lol The only thing is the track records would fall because of the short lap ..But they are falling every other week as it is. The people who hold them will still hold them when it's all said and done. LMK what you guy's think.
-Chris G.

xpss
12-13-2004, 08:00 AM
i think you a sissy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
and slow
and i whooped that a$$ in stock!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

dave that was like a full moon race or something.it started bad with me and you getting together and just got worse from there.

irvan36mm
12-13-2004, 08:00 AM
now onto bigger this there is only two words to describe the main in 19t car. F@&^!NG SAVAGES. The 7 other drivers should be assamed. all I can say is Ernie barely survied the battle he lead most of the race and yes was taken out while leading!!! SAVAGES HACKERS what ever you want to call it but it is NOT COOL. now I have a a little advice to offer to some of you. If you drive off into turn one and the car spins out PULL IT it isn't going to fix it's selve!!!!!!!!!!! put 2 rounds in the RR and 2 rounds out of LR now if you running fine and have a wreck and the cars starts doing crazy things like spinning out or pushing up into the wall PULL IT THE CAR IS BROKEN.

POINT BEING IS THAT HACK FEST COST BE ABOUT 45 BUCKS BECAUSE PEOPLE COULD USE THERE F#@!$%G HEADS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!P- Yes it's very frustrating if you start on the pole,get wrecked & come out last before going into Turn 2! We all know that even us in Pro-Spec have our own trainwrecks,but I'm trying to figure out why we could drive close & clean in Spec and Stock (two "lower" classes at that!) and you've got total carnage in 19t? What I'm thinking is ,besides running a "hotter" motor than stock & Spec, the competition in 19t is much,much more intense. We all gotta remember that running 19t at HW is almost like running at Talladega. Constant use of heads & letting your fellow drivers know where you're at if you wrecked is mandatory. If nobody does this,then problems will arise like more broken cars,empty wallets/bank accounts,heated tempers,fights,murder/death/kill,etc.

BTW<thanx for your setup tips. It's pretty close to what I'm running in my Pro-Spec car,except for the front springs! lol Wouldn't surprise me if I end up using the same front springs from the Pro-Spec setup.
-George

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irvan36mm
12-13-2004, 08:05 AM
Since I have been racing at HW I have never understood why we start the race in a turn..This baffels me because the cars are getting up to speed from a stop 1 foot away from 9 other cars and then you go into a bottle neck to get down the back stretch.. Alot of the wrecks can be eliminated by starting on the back strectch. And it will create spaceing at the beginning of the race for the drivers to get in there rythm. This will not fix the cluster F that happened in 19 turn sat. but it will help out the starts of the races.Stricklands is way smaller and they got it figured out. After this series or asap I think we should seriously consider changing where we start the race. Everyone I have ever asked said the same thing, "I don't know why we start in the turn" or "yeah we should start on the bakstretch". In 4 cell stock it's not that bad because your really not going till lap 3 and we are free of savages ...lol The only thing is the track records would fall because of the short lap ..But they are falling every other week as it is. The people who hold them will still hold them when it's all said and done. LMK what you guy's think.
-Chris G.Chris- It's been talked about for some time. Just comes down to whoever pulls a can of white spray paint out first. As a matter of fact,we tried it once in Pro-Spec and it worked out very well. No trainwrecks-nothing!
-George

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 08:23 AM
Bear ran good.( 33 :06) . I'm still stuck in the 32's but I will work it out soon. Congrats to Bear he backed up the smack and ran a good race. I hope he will continue to run stock when he can. I can't get better waxing Steve S. A$$ everyweek....lol
Yes you did :rolleyes:

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 08:28 AM
Chris- It's been talked about for some time. Just comes down to whoever pulls a can of white spray paint out first. As a matter of fact,we tried it once in Pro-Spec and it worked out very well. No trainwrecks-nothing!
-George
I'll buy a can of white and black paint and fix it this week when I go practice. I was going to practice wed but 53 is the high and Not thanks to that.probably going thurs. If anyone has a problem with me relocating the start grid let me know before I do it .

irvan36mm
12-13-2004, 08:34 AM
I'll buy a can of white and black paint and fix it this week when I go practice. I was going to practice wed but 53 is the high and Not thanks to that.probably going thurs. If anyone has a problem with me relocating the start grid let me know before I do it .Just make sure you use flat paint instead of gloss. And don't spray it too thick like the yellow lines. If dew sets in during a race,it'll get very slippery! lol May want to re-spray the lines that sets up the corner pipes,too.
-George

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 08:37 AM
Just make sure you use flat paint instead of gloss. And don't spray it too thick like the yellow lines. If dew sets in during a race,it'll get very slippery! lol May want to re-spray the lines that sets up the corner pipes,too.
-George
Sounds good.I will :thumbsup:

xpss
12-13-2004, 08:40 AM
the real reason is because there is a huge lap difference in 19t with guys who arent up to speed.there are some guys who need more time in stock or spec.the way way i feel about it is (if you cant win in spec or stock that does not mean you should step up to a faster class.)some guys want a lap restriction on 19t but i dont think that would work cus then every class would do it.
i agree with dave about if your car goes in the corner and spins out then pull it.i watched a guy saturday spin out every lap in the same spot for 5 laps in a row,then he pulls it into the in feild finally but after 1 minute and no adjustments to the car goes back out and guess what it does?????????hmmmmmmmmm spins out some more............

travymoto1
12-13-2004, 08:45 AM
Since we are on the subject. Why are we still doing heads up starts in the qualifiers? Does the clock start when the tone sounds...or when the cars pass the line for the first time? The latter is the way it is done at RPM and Boylan races. That way the cars can spread out a bit and all start at the tone....but you don't have to worry about taking a hole shot. We have on of the largest tracks in FL so if any track could do it this way ... we could. What do you guys think?

travymoto1
12-13-2004, 08:48 AM
the real reason is because there is a huge lap difference in 19t with guys who arent up to speed.there are some guys who need more time in stock or spec.the way way i feel about it is (if you cant win in spec or stock that does not mean you should step up to a faster class.)some guys want a lap restriction on 19t but i dont think that would work cus then every class would do it.
i agree with dave about if your car goes in the corner and spins out then pull it.i watched a guy saturday spin out every lap in the same spot for 5 laps in a row,then he pulls it into the in feild finally but after 1 minute and no adjustments to the car goes back out and guess what it does?????????hmmmmmmmmm spins out some more............


Who was that?

xpss
12-13-2004, 08:54 AM
im not naming names.

i dont like that idea of staggered start because it throws out track records.i you still have to go all at once in the main.
i think we should load the heats instead of running 3 or 4 cars then all of them in the main.you would get used to being around other cars.

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 09:44 AM
im not naming names.

i dont like that idea of staggered start because it throws out track records.i you still have to go all at once in the main.
i think we should load the heats instead of running 3 or 4 cars then all of them in the main.you would get used to being around other cars.
I agree if you are going to run 10 or 9 in the main you might as well run it in the qulifiers. that way your use to it. I tried 19 turn for a while and thought I was top 5 car i was 1 sec. from a 36 lap run. That's only 6 or 7 sec of the track record which is alot. I went back to stock because even I was having problems with some of the driving being done . I was tired of getting run into or running into someone who was going spec speed. But the bottom line is we can't tell someone you are not good enough too run in this class so you have to run spec or stock. I have been racing Oval at Hw for only 6 months and who knows how long Bear and Tom P. Tom M and Dave P. have been racing Oval here or anywhere. Take Bear for example I usually go practice once a week and then race. When I go practice Bear usually meets me there Your talking about the record holder in 19 turn AT PRACTICE . I never see half of the rest of those guys George is another with Tom M on Sun. meet and practice. Tom and Steve Pedanoo every TUes when they can Practice . Dave P. last week practiced. Do you see a trend here. If you want to run 19 turn because stock is to slow and street spec. is not your thing then PRACTICE..

travymoto1
12-13-2004, 09:51 AM
im not naming names.

i dont like that idea of staggered start because it throws out track records.i you still have to go all at once in the main.
i think we should load the heats instead of running 3 or 4 cars then all of them in the main.you would get used to being around other cars.

Yes, but it does not give everybody an equal opportunity to qualify. Given the difference is small.... I just think it is more fair to do a staggered start. I for one don't need practice running around other cars and I think most of you guys would agree that I am good about letting the faster cars go.( I know you were not point me out specifically )

Bear, I'm not trying to split hairs with you, and I am cool with running a race the way the director wants to.....just saw a chance to give my opinion. :thumbsup:

davepull
12-13-2004, 09:54 AM
Travis when you use the staggered start it works like this. horn goes off and your clock doesn't start till you cross the line. heads up start horn goes off clock starts. so in the main you'll be faster.

Chris I like the idea of starting on the backstretch . put the #1 spot abot 8ft back from turn 3 then set #2 2ft back from #1 then put #3 4ft back of #1 . see what I am saying the grid will be staggered 1 in front of 2 2 in front of 3 3 infront of 4 and so on. this spread the grid out and makes qualifying up front more of and advantge.


I also agree with bear this BS of spliting heats hast to stop I say you only split the pack up if there is more than 10 cars. what it is going to do is get all the rookie drivers used to running with 10 cars.

Also to add to what Bear said about the guys who were spinning out. since we don't have the same person calling the races I am going to put this to the guys who do call them George Chris John Pilgram Tom you guys have the control to tell anyone to pull there car. I know give as guy a chance but in my eyes it's the 19t main and I watched you spin out 3 times in 4 laps and wreck the field. PULL IT!!!!!!! if you guys do that I think you'll have the blessing of the other drivers in that race.

rcgen
12-13-2004, 09:59 AM
Good morning you computer rc driving quarterbacks...Here is my suggestion...we now have this fancy timing system why don't we use it...At Branford they have like a 3 lap qualifing lap. Why can't we do that here. It will put the same "group" of races in their class. This will help for those heats with more than one heat. Maybe Kevin or Lee can explain how Mr Scott does it. I know it works well.

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 10:15 AM
I don't know about the guy calling the race telling someone "HEY your car is horriable and you suck pull your car" I think it should be something they do on there own like a gentlemens agreement. Or the racers on the stand should get on him while there up there and after wards in a nice respectful way. Like hey joe blow why did you keep racing and wreck half the field when your car kept spinning out. You should have pulled it and if the other drivers say somnething I thinkk the'll get the point. I had to Pull my car 3 laps in the race the first time I went to stricklands and raced stock. It is not a good felling to have top pull your car let me tell ya. But I couldn't drive it the way it was. I tuned on it and went on to win the A-main that day. There is no shame in pulling your car.

irvan36mm
12-13-2004, 10:26 AM
The "3-lap qualifying" might work here,but,IMO,the only thing that would hold that deal back would be the amount of entries vs. the time to do this. With racers staggering in,other racers practicing,etc,one would have to get to HW very,very early to setup,practice and qualify. When we go back to the Friday Night schedule,it just won't work. Unless everybody wants to go home at 2AM.

DaveP- I'll keep that in mind next time I call a race! Thanks! :thumbsup: I keep saying that "if your car is not running right,please pull it off" (next to "I need turn marshalls"!) almost every race-but there's still some racers that just won't do it. If repeating that statement doesn't work,I don't think just a "gentleman's agreement" would work,either.

davepull
12-13-2004, 10:27 AM
ok Chris I go down the front into 1 and the car makes no attempt to turn and slams the outside wall they marshall me and ai go down the back into 3 and do the same thing. there is something wrong with the car the safest and easyest way to solve this problem is a drivers meeting. tell the drivers the guy calling the race is incharge and when he says to pull the car you do it.

xpss
12-13-2004, 10:32 AM
Good morning you computer rc driving quarterbacks...Here is my suggestion...we now have this fancy timing system why don't we use it...At Branford they have like a 3 lap qualifing lap. Why can't we do that here. It will put the same "group" of races in their class. This will help for those heats with more than one heat. Maybe Kevin or Lee can explain how Mr Scott does it. I know it works well.
i dont want to tell somebody they cant race in a particular class.

travis in not mad at you,most people take pride in track records
i for one judge all my runs off track records.i first want to beat everybody out there but 2nd i want to beat or be at the record.

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 11:00 AM
ok Chris I go down the front into 1 and the car makes no attempt to turn and slams the outside wall they marshall me and ai go down the back into 3 and do the same thing. there is something wrong with the car the safest and easyest way to solve this problem is a drivers meeting. tell the drivers the guy calling the race is incharge and when he says to pull the car you do it.
If everyone agrees that the guy calling the race has the say and when he has to make that call there is no arguement. Then I have no problem telling them to pull there car. If they don't pull it then what?????

travymoto1
12-13-2004, 11:17 AM
Not to change the subject..lol , but did you guys enjoy the movie 3 on espn sat night as much as I did? I was pretty choked up at the end...also made me think of my relationship with my own father. I had to use a kleenex....( the 4 beers prob added to the emotions as well :lol: )

irvan36mm
12-13-2004, 11:25 AM
..............Take Bear for example. I usually go practice once a week and then race. When I go practice, Bear usually meets me there You're talking about the record holder in 19 turn AT PRACTICE . I never see half of the rest of those guys. George is another with Tom M on Sun. meet and practice. Tom and Steve Pedano every TUes when they can Practice . Dave P. last week practiced. Do you see a trend here. If you want to run 19 turn because stock is to slow and street spec is not your thing then PRACTICE..Well said! The more faster,more cars and/or more intense the competition is in any class,the more practice you'll need to succeed/survive. Remember,19 turn has been the biggest class lately,so that means more cars=more chances of carnage. I'll almost bet that if there were an open-mod class,there would be a lot more people practicing during the week!

irvan36mm
12-13-2004, 11:27 AM
Not to change the subject..lol , but did you guys enjoy the movie 3 on espn sat night as much as I did? I was pretty choked up at the end...also made me think of my relationship with my own father. I had to use a kleenex....( the 4 beers prob added to the emotions as well :lol: )Yeah,it was pretty good. Would make a great Father's Day movie!

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 11:35 AM
Yeah,it was pretty good. Would make a great Father's Day movie!
It was alright . I never as a big fan. I like Jr. though

rcgen
12-13-2004, 01:54 PM
I think it's time for me to move up to 19t. I've ran 19t touring, 19t nastruck ran a couple of stock oh yeah pro-spec too. What do you all think? You think I can run with you guys and get in wrecks too?? :jest: I don't think so...You all are forgetting this is suppose to be FUN and if your car is not working pull it off or drive the high line :p

davepull
12-13-2004, 02:31 PM
i dont want to tell somebody they cant race in a particular class.

travis in not mad at you,most people take pride in track records
i for one judge all my runs off track records.i first want to beat everybody out there but 2nd i want to beat or be at the record.

Exactly!!!!!!!! To me I feel the same way. Yes I want to win but I want to also go faster every run. my personal best now is a 36 4:01.10 and the record is a 36 4:00 if I go out there and run a 36 4:06 something is wrong with my car. here is a list of guys who have gone 36 laps. Me, Bear, Tom Pedano, Mike Boylan, Jerry Parrott That is it. seeing as the record is almost 37 laps what does that say about the other guys in 19t. heck look at stock 3 people have gone 33 laps me, Bear, and Tom Pedano.

the way i see it on moving up to a faster class isn't if you are winning the class you are in it is if you are either breaking the record or coming close each run. once you can due that move up!!!!!!!!


RCGEN I like the idea of qualifying but unless we can get 15 +++ cars in that class each week it is a waste of time. i just think running 2 quals of 4 cars each is a waste of time when you run 8 cars in the main.

New92
12-13-2004, 02:31 PM
Don't you guys ever work or anything? :wave:

DEEPBLUE
12-13-2004, 03:43 PM
I will say this much at one time or another we all stay on the track when we should not have been out there but no one has to be close to a track record to be in a class thats B.S.. I for one think that you have alot of guys out there that want to have a good time racing and I feel that if you to don't then don't come. It does not happen often that we have a very bad race in 19t but we did now get over it. I was taken out of second place in 3 or 4 laps of the race but so what I have next week to try agian. I am like the rest of you I would love to finsh first but I would rather race with my racing family and have a good time. If we are going to get so made at each other about a local race how are we going to act when we host a big race ???????????????
Thanks,
John Hart

travymoto1
12-13-2004, 03:56 PM
I agree with John. I don't think you have to be pushing a track record to run in a class. I for one raced a full points series in stock...managed 3rd in the series, so I am now in 19t. I am not pressing the track record but am climbing up the learning curve. I have not challange for the lead, but I get out of the way and stay clean when a faster car comes up on me.
Dave P, from what you wrote above...only You, Bear, Padano and Parrot should be running 19t. I disagree w/ that. I don't think you can single out one guy in that main and say that he is the problem and should not be in the class. I am sorry that you got hit by someone and have to spend some $$$.

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 03:59 PM
Thurs I will be out there to change the starting grid and finish painting the walls . If antone else wants to come help that would be cool. I should be there by 4 and the weather is suppose to be better / warmer on Thurs.

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 04:05 PM
I agree with John. I don't think you have to be pushing a track record to run in a class. I for one raced a full points series in stock...managed 3rd in the series, so I am now in 19t. I am not pressing the track record but am climbing up the learning curve. I have not challange for the lead, but I get out of the way and stay clean when a faster car comes up on me.
Dave P, from what you wrote above...only You, Bear, Padano and Parrot should be running 19t. I disagree w/ that. I don't think you can single out one guy in that main and say that he is the problem and should not be in the class. I am sorry that you got hit by someone and have to spend some $$$.
I just think that the record runs every week are getting crazy. Everone is tring to run the fastest time possiable and aren't going to let a little thing like someone elses car get in the way. I my self have ran into someone because they were in my way and I was wrong to do so. I think we should give a little more room to one another If you see a fast car coming up on you MOVE!!!! your only going to get hit or cause a wreck . Fast car give the guy a second to move out of your way instead of tring to go on the high line and they come up on you. I remember back in the day when you hit someone on the lead lap you would wait until they cought back up and let them pass out of respect and say sorry. HAHAHAHAHA If you saw that today. If we fix the starting grid and give room alittle more we'll be fine. :thumbsup:

DEEPBLUE
12-13-2004, 04:13 PM
I just think that the record runs every week are getting crazy. Everone is tring to run the fastest time possiable and aren't going to let a little thing like someone elses car get in the way. I my self have ran into someone because they were in my way and I was wrong to do so. I think we should give a little more room to one another If you see a fast car coming up on you MOVE!!!! your only going to get hit or cause a wreck . Fast car give the guy a second to move out of your way instead of tring to go on the high line and they come up on you. I remember back in the day when you hit someone on the lead lap you would wait until they cought back up and let them pass out of respect and say sorry. HAHAHAHAHA If you saw that today. If we fix the starting grid and give room alittle more we'll be fine. :thumbsup:I think this is the wrong solution. It just not the same. Also if we do decide to do it it should be after the points are done. Just my 2 cents....
Thanks,
John

xpss
12-13-2004, 04:27 PM
Everybody Hit Somebody At Some Point.i Hit Dave P To Start All This Bs.i Didnt Mean To.your Driving An 8x15 Car Doing 40 Mph There Is Going To Be Wrecks.all It Takes Is Give And Take.
In My Opinion Moving The Start Grid To The Back Will Not Change Anything It May Make It Worse.when You Hit The Bump With Sauce On Your Tires Or Cold Tires You Will Spin Out.and Cause The Big One.it Happens We Need To Load The Heats And Have Some Fun.
Its Funny When We Had 10 Touring Cars We Never Had This Problem.
Damn Oval Guys Hehehehehee

travymoto1
12-13-2004, 04:45 PM
I agree. Load the heats, drive your best, be curtious, leave your feelings in the pits, and have some fun. :thumbsup:

katf1sh
12-13-2004, 04:45 PM
bear did the deal we ordered come in?

hit me up katf1sh@earthlink.net i can send you $$

rcgen
12-13-2004, 04:55 PM
I agree. Load the heats, drive your best, be curtious, leave your feelings in the pits, and have some fun. :thumbsup:
me too

rcgen
12-13-2004, 05:02 PM
Don't you guys ever work or anything? :wave:
Nice to see you on here again....are you going to race touring again? I think I'll be doing touring and pro-spec, these oval heads complain too much j/k Plus I have alot of new tires to use...

Poppa Ray
12-13-2004, 05:10 PM
OK two things; 1: I REMEMBER WHY WE START IN THE TURN! The OLD transponder sys needed like 5 sec after the start before it would register the first lap. Probably wouldn't be a problem now but who knows we havn't tried it. 2: I've never been as irritated at a race as I was Sat! It was my fault too, I was totally unprepared for the mains cause I lost track of time and didn't have batteries charged or motors soldered and I missed both my mains! Now I've been racing for like 6 years now (I know that's along time and I'm still off the pace) Iv'e been wrecked, broke, hacked, punted and a few more colorfull descriptions of bad driving and I've done all those to other drivers and never on purpose either giving or taking and I'm seriuos I've never had a worse day. Why? Because I just wanna race and have fun and that's all.

rcovalracer
12-13-2004, 05:22 PM
i dont want to tell somebody they cant race in a particular class.

travis in not mad at you,most people take pride in track records
i for one judge all my runs off track records.i first want to beat everybody out there but 2nd i want to beat or be at the record.
We run a single car qual. for 3 laps,this places you in order for the heats,so the guys that ran good times in single car qual. will be up front,and the slower ones in the back of the field. But, as George said it takes time,proably a extra 30-40 min. and I myself would not like to leave at 2 a.m and head home.


One thing I see at HW when I go everyone, trys to break the track record.
And with that in mind everyone wants to get the fastest laps including lap one,so with 10 people wanting the track record then there will always be 10 cars shooting into turn 1 wide open and noone wants to give room because they are going to break the track record (so they are thinking)and all of a sudden you have 5+ cars in turn 1 sitting there spun out.IMO everyone is trying to cut the first lap time down to get the record and at the starts everyone wants the inside lane,the fastest way around.I wasn't there but I could take a guess(the big one)it happened on the inside of turn 1 on the first lap..


Telling someone they are not allowed to run in a class because they are slower than the rest of the cars is ludacris..
Just as well tell them to pack up their stuff and go home !!!! (stupid)
And this is from the "Race Director" ... hmmmmm


I have ran countless races with slow cars,cars bouncing down the walls through the whole race(example,this past Sunday,Lee knows),but I have never wanted them to go to another class.
How will they learn if they don't run it?
How will they know, if you fast guys don't help out?
This has been said,a few times. Guys/gals if you plan on running in a new class,such as 19T, PRACTICE. If you plan to run Legends,PRACTICE.

"AS HOBBYWORLD TURNS" episode #,who knows I lost count. :drunk:

Kevin

rcovalracer
12-13-2004, 05:32 PM
the real reason is because there is a huge lap difference in 19t with guys who arent up to speed.there are some guys who need more time in stock or spec.the way way i feel about it is (if you cant win in spec or stock that does not mean you should step up to a faster class.)some guys want a lap restriction on 19t but i dont think that would work cus then every class would do it.
i agree with dave about if your car goes in the corner and spins out then pull it.i watched a guy saturday spin out every lap in the same spot for 5 laps in a row,then he pulls it into the in feild finally but after 1 minute and no adjustments to the car goes back out and guess what it does?????????hmmmmmmmmm spins out some more............
I ran better in 19T Nastruck than I did stock there. :confused:
And I don't run 19T...Shoot I never won a race in stock,but came closer to winning in 19T Nastruck..

Kevin

WehnerRacer
12-13-2004, 05:45 PM
Since I have been racing at HW I have never understood why we start the race in a turn..This baffels me because the cars are getting up to speed from a stop 1 foot away from 9 other cars and then you go into a bottle neck to get down the back stretch.. Alot of the wrecks can be eliminated by starting on the back strectch. And it will create spaceing at the beginning of the race for the drivers to get in there rythm. This will not fix the cluster F that happened in 19 turn sat. but it will help out the starts of the races.Stricklands is way smaller and they got it figured out. After this series or asap I think we should seriously consider changing where we start the race. Everyone I have ever asked said the same thing, "I don't know why we start in the turn" or "yeah we should start on the bakstretch". In 4 cell stock it's not that bad because your really not going till lap 3 and we are free of savages ...lol The only thing is the track records would fall because of the short lap ..But they are falling every other week as it is. The people who hold them will still hold them when it's all said and done. LMK what you guy's think.
-Chris G.
Chris you are so right. When i raced there earlier in the summer it was always bad at the start. Pulling a can a spray paint out would be a good idea. Starting it further down the stretch lets you get a cars spaced out so that turn one isnt so tight. Great idea..cant wait to come back and race in a couple of weeks.

WehnerRacer
12-13-2004, 05:58 PM
Well now that i read the rest of the passages leaving the starting grid where it is, is a good idea too. but do you still need 5 seconds before the transpoder starts counting, if not, why not start right out of turn 4...have that stretch to warm up the tires and the when you hit turn 3 your tires will be warmed up......just another way to do it....im still a beginner...but i do wanna have fun AND I CANT WAIT TO GET BACK OUT THERE!!!!!

Shumacher 99
12-13-2004, 06:33 PM
I'll just leave it the way it is. besides you would have to walk AALLLLLLLL the way across the track to set your car down instead of conveniently right there by the stairs. ohhh I know lets turn them facing the other way do 2 donuts then take off...ohoohohoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!!! I just want to race I don't care where we line up I just think starting them stagger is the way to go.