Thnak you Tom. So do you think I will get it when I see you racing on Wed or do you think it will not be in by then?????? Just let me know.

Tom you missed some real exiting racing, you can ask John for sure. He had the WORST day out of all of us. His cars would not run, his car went crazy, burnt up a LRP V6 and when it was going crazy he got hit by a car and fell and cut up his arm and his hip was hurtin real bad. You really missed it Tom, and oh yeah, how could i forget, I WON gas truck!!!!!!! Tom the track is a little bit harder now, they made it smaller before you get on the straight and you have to really drive though it to go fast.

John hope you are ok.

Dustin

Dustin,

Yeah, I'm okay ... a nice strawberry on my elbow and a little road rash over bruising on my hip ... nothing a few "brown sodas" didn't cure, lol! Just wasn't my day.

I'm sending my LD3 to the closet again (bad, BAD!), and getting a used Reflex NT I bought set up. Meanwhile I'm paranoid about putting in my backup speedo into my XXX-S without knowing WHY the dang thing went up in smoke! Man, that was way early in the race, lap 4 or 5 I think, I've started a thread to ask if anybody knows why ... I think I'll change motors and gearing when I put in my backup ESC just to be safe. I just can't see how a P2K fried a V6. D'oh!

Very good racing sunday other then johns (AKA apron boy) bad luck. tom the tires i got had the nitro glued to the track other than in the main i hit a corner flipped and stripped the servo saver,so i ran 3 minutes trying to hold it strait,but managed to come out with the win everyone showed some good driving out there. had a good time as normal

How did the Expert Sedan or Electric Truck go... Did the change Dustin talked about make a big difference? Enough to affect gearing? (I'm assuming he's talking about making the "esses" leading onto the straight more of a "kink"..???) ? Pictures ?

Tom the track is a little bit harder now, they made it smaller before you get on the straight and you have to really drive though it to go fast.

... Just wanting to avoid any "scramble" at the track Sunday ...

It's about the same line in the corners, but it turns backwards another 15-20 degrees, so you really have to turn to get on the straight.


I won't be joining the Expert Sedan this weekend as my XRAY has vanished *grin* and I'm about to unveil a secret speed demon! I will be up in GORT and Nitro Sedan, though. :)

Mitch

Jesse, Did you get rid of the Nitro TC just when Mitch is going to pull his out or did you guys end up not making the deal?????

Mitch, it looks like we will have a new commer in GORT next week, John. Mitch you put some stering in that car or just make the back a little bit slicker cause it seamed like you where HOOKED to good. LOL See everyone next week.

Dustin

It's taken care of. :) Picking up some tires today!

I've got some diff work to do as well.

Yeah Mitch, you are going to have to do a lot to keep up with the ASSOCIATED. lol

Dustin

I won't be joining the Expert Sedan this weekend as my XRAY has vanished *grin* and I'm about to unveil a secret speed demon

Hmmm.....

If an XRAY "vanishes", does that mean you need "Superman's X-Ray vision" to see it...

YIKES! That track change must really be a beauty OR Mitch used a "slug" motor...???? :cool:

Class:(Exp Elec TC)
Position Name Laps Time Best Round
1 Mitch Wagers 30 5m02.425 3
2 Ryan Trask 29 5m03.777 3
3 Curt Heckman 27 5m02.835 3
4 Jordan Sicht 27 5m11.998 3


ONLY 30 laps! that's a drop of 3-4 laps over normal! :confused:

Tom, they all swore the track was the same length and only two turns were tweaked a little ... but I think the straight looks 8'-10' longer, no way we lose 4 laps to the small corner changes, imho.

sounds like dustins gettin a big head

I still nave the tc dustin no word from the other side

The track is the same length. You do gain about 4-5 feet in the straight due to the corner being set back more, but it is still 130' x 50' overall track size.


The inside of the track is a little tighter as well, so you can't just run straight from left to right. I'm looking up my lap times now.

No slug motor, Tom. I think I actually used a rocket motor I have. :)

I'll try to remember to bring my "roller" to measure the "racing line" Sunday...

You can see the lap times on www.columbiathunder.com (http://www.columbiathunder.com), just go to the Race results and July 18's race. I would have put them here, but I didn't want to figure out the HTML on this forum.

In a 30 lap race, seconds add up!

THANKS! Regardless of the details of the layout, it's pretty clear that lap times went from the high 8's and low 9's for good laps to high 9's and low 10's... One second per lap would cut one lap for every 10 -- quick math says 33-34 would work out to 30 or so for a given motor/car/gearing setup... Amazing -- finally a use for all that Math in school! LOL!

From all the descriptions, it also looks like no gearing changes of significance... Longer straight might let you gear up, but if the "twisty bits" are tighter, you'll need to keep the gearing we have now to let it pull up out of the turns....

Assuming the same location as for the 11th, did the traction improve? It seemed like the new location was very slick at the start of racing on the 11th (seemed like the tires were picking up large amounts of dust and losing all bite), but improved significantly as the day went on. Now I'm wondering if it got dusty again or kept it's "bite"...

OH -- I finally got around to replacing the flywheel on my XXX-NT... "Seemed" to go well, but what do I know...? Nitro is whole new world... kind of frustrated about the gear mesh, though... I didn't pay proper attention to things before I tore it down, but when I reassembled everything, the pinion only catches about 3/4 of the width of the spur's teeth -- almost like the flywheel pushes the clutch bell a bit further out to the right of the chassis...??? May have been that way all along, but I didn't notice it before... :confused: :freak: :drunk:

Tom you need to learn to use the saying that Jesse and I use quite frequently, "just run the junk" LOL.

Batts are charging as we speak and I am almost ready to loose to Tom again probley. LOL You just wait Tom I will get my game back soon enough.
See everyone tonight.

Dustin

Hey guys, just got back from Hobbytown and Jordan said that all types of glow plugs will be going up about 25% due to short on the stuff that they make glow plugs with. Just thought I would be the good little kid that I am and tell you guys.

Dustin

Dustin,

Well, HobbyTown is already around 40% higher on glow plugs than other shops. There isn't a shortage of the material and you shouldn't believe what people say everytime! If they go up, it isn't due to shortage of materials.

I agree with superxray on the price thing! on another note Dustin I know why the fantom motor I purchased from you didnt run, the piston was installed backwards! whats up with that I'm not sure but I think whoever rebuilt it did this on purpose! Anyway it runs great now and I hope to get a touring car to put it in! anyone got one? lol. well its good to be back racing and I hope to see everyone on sunday..... later all!!!!!

Curt, I dont know why it was like that. Nick did it cause I didnt know anything about engines and gas stuff yet so he did all of that for me. Maybe that is why I only got about just a half of gallon though it before the compression was gone. Now that you put it in the RIGHT way, does it have more compression or not cause I know that piston and sleeve does not have more than a half through it.

IS ANYONE GOING UP TO JOES THIS WEEKEND FOR THE "GOLD CUP RACE??????"
Let me know

Dustin

Light turnout, but GOOD racing at Hallsville last night!

Novice was a battle between the Cunningham boys... Kind of fun to watch Brad as the races went on -- ?how does he decide which one to cheer for? LOL! :D

Dustin is "back" and running strong in buggy... I ran my first official 29 and still got outqualified! Jared saved his best for the main and took 2nd place away from me with a really good run in the A-main, but Dustin just walked away from both of us!

Truck was weird for me -- I drove so much worse that I did in Buggy...? Never really put in a good run all night. Of course, with Brad, Gary, and Ryan running strong, it just made my driving look that much worse... In the main, (all night, really), Ryan just smoothed everyone to death... Gary kept pressure on, but not enough... Brad and I had a pretty close race, but it wasn't "pretty" -- both of us just had too many encouters with the pipes!

"R/C RaceTrak"(tm) Professional Race Management Software
RC TRAX -- Columbia, MO -- 07/21/04

Class: NOVIE OFFROAD BUGGY
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 0 CUNNINGHAM ,AUSTIN 23 05:18.58 2 6 RD 00:11.86 120.60
2 0 CUNNINGHAM ,ANDREW 14 05:21.20 2 2 WH 00:15.13 72.81

A MAIN- NOVIE OFFROAD BUGGY
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 1 CUNNINGHAM ,AUSTIN 22 05:01.64
2 2 CUNNINGHAM ,ANDREW 13 05:01.59


Class: EXPERT STOCK BUGGY
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 2 HODGES ,DUSTIN 29 05:03.50 2 76 BL 00:09.77 159.61
2 4 FRAHM ,TOM 29 05:10.89 2 5 WH 00:10.15 155.82
3 3 PHILLIPPE ,JARED 27 05:06.48 1 84 RD 00:10.22 147.16

A MAIN- EXPERT STOCK BUGGY
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 1 HODGES ,DUSTIN 28 05:05.98 XXXT
2 3 PHILLIPPE ,JARED 27 05:03.42 XXX
3 2 FRAHM ,TOM 27 05:07.79 XXX


Class: EXPERT STOCK TRUCK
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 0 TRASK ,RYAN 29 05:03.25 1 1 BL 00:07.70 159.75
2 0 PHILLIPPE ,GARY 29 05:06.89 1 62 RD 00:10.01 157.85
3 0 CUNNINGHAM ,BRAD 29 05:07.29 1 6 WH 00:09.69 157.65
4 0 FRAHM ,TOM 27 05:09.45 2 5 GR 00:10.55 145.75

A MAIN- EXPERT STOCK TRUCK
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 1 TRASK ,RYAN 29 05:04.46 RC-10 T4
2 2 PHILLIPPE ,GARY 28 05:09.28 Losi XXXT
3 3 CUNNINGHAM ,BRAD 28 05:19.02 T4
4 4 FRAHM ,TOM 27 05:03.31 XXXTMFE

Any locals racing the "Big One" up at Chilli this week?

I might go up, Dustin. I'm racing Sunday at HD and Monday at the Cole Fair, so that would be three straights days of racing! I'll let you know. Do you know if Nick is going?

Not planning on it John. I am racing three times this week. Once at Joes. Another at Home Depot and the Cole County fair race. Three days of racing, nothing better.

Mitch I was planning on doing the same thing. Racing all the same places you were but that is a lot of running so I really dont know yet. If Jesse goes then I will probley be going. I will have to see with him but ither way I will end up comming probley.
See you then.

Dustin

Dustin, I'll be going to Harrisburg on Saturday if you want to ride along. I'll probably practice at the Fair location tomorrow too, but not sure you have a way down here!

Mitch

Im looking to be at all three places but we will see ,depends on what stays together

Just Home Depot for me this weekend... Got the NT running, put 2 more tanks through it -- should be able to run it at Home Depot Sunday... Not worried about "tuning" on it yet, just wanting to use the races to play with it and try to get used to Nitro...

Hmmm GORT, Electric (Stock) Truck, and Expert (Stock) Sedan... Busy, busy! Should give me plenty of time on the new track configuration....

Hey Mitch, that would be great. I could meat you at the 63 and 70 overpass if you want. So it wouldnt be out of your way what so ever. Call me today on my cell so we can talk about where to meat and all of that crap. If you cant call just give me your # and I can give you a ring. Mine is 424-4661, call me today any time please.

Dustin

:( It's starting to look doubtful that I'll make it to HD Sunday ... too much going on today to get ready by tomorrow ... 'bout a 50/50 chance. If I do make it, I'll probably only run electric TC. ptooey! -jr

Well racing at Joes didnt go as planed, the rain caused some problems but we indeed up racing on his indoor track as a play day. So the Gold Cup race got moved back to Oct. 2ed. We all had a good time. Now I am ready to get back the the onroad stuff and then dirt on monday. See everyone then.

Dustin

Man! Some seriously FAST racing at Home Depot today...

In Sedan, I ran a 32 1st round to TQ that round... Last week, it sounded like 30 was a good run, so I was Pumped...!

Second round, I stepped it up and cranked off a fast 34/5:06... And I was only second! with Ryan taking the TQ spot with 34/5:05... OK, I need to go FASTER, right?...

In the main, I DID go faster... I cranked off a massive 35/5:08... And I was only THIRD place! Brad cranked a 35/5:02 for the win, and Ryan ran 35/5:07 in second...

WHATSUPWITHAT! LOL! :D :confused: :tongue:

Yeah, great racing everyone! We had our biggest turnout so far this year.


Tom, I think we need to work on making the track stay more consistent. The rails are great, but after a while of continuous pounding, they move a bit and it opens up the corners. Stupid Monster Trucks! :)

Mitch -- the "twisty bits" (I call it the "esses") on the right end of the track DID change quite a bit at times... I mentioned to Eric Flowers that, at a minimum, it would help if a small spot of paint were put down under each dot when the track is setup, as both a reminder and a guide to getting the roadrail back into the same configuration each time...

To eliminate movement (and still protect cars from damage), couldn't one of the steel plow disks be put on the back/inside of the corner dots/roadrails in the "esses"....? The steel disk could rest on the back side of the dot/roadrail and help anchor it, without creating a harmfull obstacle... I've seen tracks use sandbags or other heavy objects for this, but those create a barrier that you whack into -- the plow disks may 'launch' a car, but they don't smash off bits...

Mitch -- I forgot to get my motor... If you want, you could leave it with Bo and just let me know... (I won't be back up to Home Depot for a couple of weeks?)

I had a really good time Sunday. I hope we have that kind of turnout every week. Looks like I need to get out the dremel and "Lighten up" my XXX-S RTR because Brad,Ryan, and Tom were blazing fast. I ran 34 laps and only got 4th...LOL! Great job guys....Maybe someday when I grow up I'll be able to hang with you guys... IMHO...Brad had the fastest car on the track. That X-Ray was screaming in the main, and lets remember he ran 35 5:02 and had one MAJOR crash....! Would have been and easy 36 without that mistake. Okay, now everybody go by X-RAYS' so I can buy your old Graphite + XXX-S....LOL!

Anyway, should see some of you all tonight at the fair...

Later guys (and gals)

Our trophy race is coming up August 14th....Friday August 13th will be open practice....Here is the flyer

NEMO Trophy Race (http://www.noveltyrc.com/nemo04.html)

In Novice (or 'NOVIE' as we lovingly call it - LOL!), Andrew Cunningham struggled a bit (his driving style reminded me of watching 'Trigger' race), and he had some mechanical problems (I think his steering servo stripped a gear or two in the main) -- but I think he had fun and that's the main thing. Austin Todd got in some very good runs, including two solid 22 lap runs -- WAY TO GO!

In Sportsman, we had a new face... Everyone welcome Corey Coen when you see him. From watching him, it won't be long before he's in top form. He's been out of racing for a long time, but he had his B4 looking good! Corey's 23 lap runs don't tell the whole story, as he ran some very smooth laps, with very good times, but he also had some bad luck and some "traffic" issues... Kyle Craig ran OK in qualifying, but really "cooked" in the main, taking a very powerful win!

The Expert classes saw pretty much the "usual" suspects, with no real surprises. Dustin is back into top form, cranking off good laps in buggy! Jesse missed most of the night due to radio problems (bad reciever or crystal?) -- he borrowed a truck from Gary in the main and proceded to show us who was the "truckmeister"!

I'd tried to put some water on the track at the start of the night, right after I opened up, but it wasn't enough... The track is pretty rough right now, with some seriuous holes and ruts, and when it dried out, it was a really -- uh -- a "challenge"... :freak:

"R/C RaceTrak"(tm) Professional Race Management Software
RC TRAX -- Columbia, MO -- 07/28/04


Class: NOVIE OFFROAD BUGGY
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 0 TODD ,AUSTIN 22 05:04.92 2 5 RD 00:10.95 120.53
2 0 CUNNINGHAM ,ANDREW 16 05:16.44 2 2 WH 00:10.15 84.46

A MAIN- NOVIE OFFROAD BUGGY
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 1 TODD ,AUSTIN 22 05:13.18 T3
2 2 CUNNINGHAM ,ANDREW 7 02:18.04


Class: SPORTSMAN STK BUGGY
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 0 CRAIG ,KYLE 24 05:10.22 2 80 WH 00:10.43 129.23
2 0 CUNNINGHAM ,AUSTIN 23 05:02.70 1 6 RD 00:08.34 126.93
3 0 COEN ,COREY 23 05:06.22 1 67 BL 00:06.41 125.47

A MAIN- SPORTSMAN STK BUGGY
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 1 CRAIG ,KYLE 26 05:02.11 mini t
2 3 COEN ,COREY 23 05:09.83
3 2 CUNNINGHAM ,AUSTIN 22 05:03.44


Class: EXPERT STOCK BUGGY
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 2 HODGES ,DUSTIN 29 05:02.99 2 76 BL 00:09.97 159.89
2 0 PHILLIPPE ,GARY 29 05:08.44 2 62 RD 00:10.04 157.06
3 4 FRAHM ,TOM 27 05:06.15 1 5 WH 00:06.42 147.32

A MAIN- EXPERT STOCK BUGGY
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 1 HODGES ,DUSTIN 28 05:01.59 XXXT
2 2 PHILLIPPE ,GARY 28 05:07.65 XXX BK2
3 3 FRAHM ,TOM 27 05:03.89 XXX


Class: EXPERT STOCK TRUCK
QUALIFYING HEATS
Car Finish Best Flg Best
Pos No Last Name First Laps Time Round Chan Clr LapTime AveMPH
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----- ---- --- ------- ------
1 0 CUNNINGHAM ,BRAD 28 05:06.31 2 6 RD 00:09.55 152.70
2 0 FRAHM ,TOM 28 05:10.28 1 5 BL 00:10.33 150.74
3 0 CRAIG ,JESSE 0 00:00.00 2 80 WH 00:00.00 0.00

A MAIN- EXPERT STOCK TRUCK
Finish
Pos Qua Last Name First Laps Time Car Type
--- --- ------------ ------- ---- -------- ----------
1 3 CRAIG ,JESSE 28 05:01.64 old xx
2 1 CUNNINGHAM ,BRAD 27 05:01.59 T4
3 2 FRAHM ,TOM 27 05:11.14 XXXTMFE

Ryan where were you last night??? You missed a good night. Jesse was sponserd and man was he flying.

Tom you are right about all the wholes. Are we not doing anything about it because we think that Joe is going to build a track soon and it would be no point or what. I know if someone wanted to do something about the track I would be in to help if I could make time and if I am not busy.

Dont know if I will be able to run at home depot this weekend with my new nitro tc or my gas truck. I have to do family duties as Tom would say. Grandam's B-day and we are going camping. I am going to see if I cant make it back in time.

Dustin

Dustin -- I think the track maintenance issue is a complex one...

Brad and Gary both have ideas to "redo" the track (not a TOTAL change, but a change to use that wasted space on the left side)... If the track it going to get redone, THAT is the time to fix holes, etc... I think that is the reason for not doing it NOW...

Joe's deal (if it works out with the new building, etc.) is also a factor I think...

Light turnout is the other issue... Sort of a 'catch 22'... Hard to get excited about the track when turnout is poor, but it's possible the rough track affect racer turnout....? Hard to say on that one...

I had bad case of the "honey do's." I like a rough track. More "driving", more challenges, less like slot cars.

any thoughts on where the crowd will be this Sunday?

I'm planning on going to Home Depot on Sunday. That is assuming that Lisa is still doing ok.

Tom,
Are you or Marvin racing anywhere this weekend? I need to bring that Legend in for Marvin.


Also, Who is all going to Novelty for the trophy race? I am going try and make it....Anyone else?

Phil

Phil,

I am going to try to go to the Novilty race and I am going to try to get Kelly there as well. Be good to race on some dirt on a nice track.

First I want to say that I was "hacked" in buggy, but at least my truck won.

Brad and I stayed up there last night and filled in the really big holes (notice spelling, Dustin), so you can bet that the track will be real loose next week, because it always is after repairs.

Eddie, what happened in the main last Sunday, I heard that Jesse beat you, even with his truck. LOL

Well after proving once again i can break stuff that should never break, I am guessing sometime early last week my Motor Cam on the TC3 Broke in half, I had problems after each run it was loose, then i took it apart and found it broke in half. Go figure its the way the year has went so far, entire car made of plastic I break the only Aluminum peace!!!! My plans this weekend are just to run HD sunday, so Expert class watch out!!! :-P

David Johnson

Phil -- I don't think Marvin is racing anywhere this weekend... I know I'm NOT...

Bo tells me that Marvin has a starter box for his NT now, and they worked on sort of DE-tuning the engine a bit (fattened up the engine so it starts easier, runs cooler, and is more reliable)... WOW -- Marvin and I both with Nitro trucks... Who would'a thunk it? :D

MY BAD, the idea wasnt to get marvin in nitro,it was to get him in trouble with his wife . lol :p