i would love to see some pics..
bought some angle stock for my project. leaning towards E tranny over the pede one.

let me know if you want to email pics ;)

I was thinking that I needed to take some shots of this as it goes together. I am SO bad about that. I will take some. PM me your e-mail address if you want "real" sized ones insted of the pathetic stuff I can post here...

Well, the Rusty was here when I got home! Gneerally it is pretty cool but it has been ridden hard and put away wet, as they say. Two bearings are seized and one shock is totally worthless. Considering I just made two super deals with this kid for clods, I am way less than pleased with him at the moment. It is all of $15 worth of stuff (not including a dead shell and a set of tires that look like they were left in a hot frying pan! They are melted!). He's a kid and I should expect it but I have no plans to go easy on him.

Sean took one look at it and wants it. Gee, there's a shocker. From a distance it is pretty cool with all the blue stuff on it.

Just took some shots of it...

:rolleyes: hhmmnnn................

And what exactly does THAT mean? :).

I posted an honest appraisal of the deal on Clodtalk and gee-what a surprise, the kid wasn't pleased. He wanted me to add that he had paid on time.:rolleyes:

As I have said before, no more mr. nice guy. I go out of my way to help this kid out and give him an insanely good deal on stuff and I get this in return. I will have fun with the Rusty and the stuff I traded away will go to good use whereas I was hardly using it but it just rubs the wrong way.

So, I put down the Rusty and picked up the TLT again last night and realized I had had a brain cramp! On first inspection, I thought the TLT chassis was symmetrical. I simply mounted the Pede chassis on the side that would allow me to use one of the existing holes. turns out the mounting holes are NOT sym... That means I either have to drill a bunch more holes to mount the chassis on the INSIDE of the truck, or redrill half of the battery tray holes. Or I could start all over iwth a custom chassis but I would rather get a proof of concept first.

Peter, has anybody posted an issue with the Traxxas sliders w/ Pede tranny being TOO LONG? I was thinking a 10" wheelbase to match the stock 1/10 scale body but to do that I either have to have the chassis WAY up in the air, creating a big angle from tranny to axle, or cut them down. Cutting them down is no problem but I was just wondering. Most people seem to be doing a longer wheelbase for crawling I guess.

If all you need is "proof of concept" couldn't you just use 2 cheap pieces of thin plywood/hobby board? Easy to cut and drill thru, and rigid enough to hold together for test fitting. You could even run it slightly for real testing (no rough stuff) and have a pattern you could take to work for custom work with real metal.

I guess I could do that but it is harder to get screws to stay put in plywood and evne the thinnest would mean much longer screws than are needed for 1/16" aluminum...

I was thinking just for design testing it would be an easy way to test/modify designs. Getting screws to stay put wouldn't be a big issue because you won't be using it as a runner, just a design aid.

Last night while removing trash, I found some really thin paneling that might work really well. I think this will help in terms of determining link lengths and position. I can rough cut it with a jig saw just to mock it up.

And it isn't even that much thicker than the plates will be. A great idea after all.:thumbsup:

Hey I wasn't just fartin' in the wind ya know! :freak:

:lol:

Better than pissin' in the wind, for sure!

people cut the traxxas sliders alot. or if they go really short they use 4tec slidders. i may need some of them, but still waiting for my back ordered 4tec diff. and i have to trouble shoot my race micro's electronics...

was doing very well(for me), the main started well, clean laps(getting a little quicker each one). then i have on power issues..car spools up to speed stutters and stops.. motor is new batss are new..so that leaves the rx and esc.... :(
and my esc is no longer made........

ohh well

oh and chriss sorry i didn't see your post sooner..thought we were ahvng another one of thoose slow weeks(no email again..)

have a good weekend all..

No worries on the delays at all! My life has been way too busy to even get back to the work table. I had grand plans for a mtb ride this morning but I have been working on the house since I got up..

Not so bad as I was out with the buds until after midnight so it isn't like I got up all that early. Just haven't had a moment with the projects of MINE... It's that "honey-do" list...

i have been un-inspired of late. had a injection done last week. things are taking longer then i thought to get back into it. but i did get a "photo" of the hardware in my back. i still have to scan it though..

good luck wiht the "honey do" list;)

Hi Guys,

It has been awhile sence I've been able to write. Just finishing up a computer change and the follow up software detailing. Much nicer machine and very fast.

Also completing a major project here at the camp. It started three years ago and has cost 1.3 million but when all is said a done hopefully we will never need to use it. We had to install a 150,000 gal water tank, fire pump, hydrants, hose boxes, monitoring system, and do tons of paper work but the county is very happy.

Peter, I feel for you and your back problems, sorry yours is still giving you fits. I broke mine when I was in the military and after years of hassels it has become very liveable. Hang in there.

When Tom and Chris were talking about mocking up a chassis I was going to mention that there is a product used to put down on floors before you install new floor covering. It is alot like plywood but very thin and hard. Next time any of you are at the Home Depot go to the floor section and ask them where the underlayment is and they should be able direct you to it. Check it out it seems as strong as 1/4" plywood about 1/8" thick and being wood would work/shape/etc very well.

:wave:

Is it like masonite? That was another alternative I thought of. I will come up with something cheap to try it with. Metal is really a ton of work for a first effort just to see what works. Time will tell.

Yesterday was gardening and the living room chaos. Today it is the home office. Oh, and maybe the new doorway to the attic... What we need is a dumpster! We have decided that the way to approach our chaos is to pretend we are moving and to just unload! It is amazing how much stuff one can accumulate over 13 years in one house. :rolleyes:

Nope, about the same thickness but all laminated hard wood. One sheet would be about as strong as plastic and two glued together would work sweet.

I've moved several times and each time I wonder why I've kept as much stuff as I do. All junk and of no value. The dumpster is the way to go. I had a friend tell me once that if I have not used it in a year I should toss it. That is difficult to do. It seemed like I was going to toss over half the stuff I had.

Take care.

Well, Bill, at least you guys have that huge warehosue to store stuff in! We do have a basement and an attic that are getting real full! We have boxes that I opened that had magazines that we moved with! We are now talking 13 year old magazines... :rolleyes: The trick is to remember they are there on recycling day!

Now, onto our assigned subject. Almost stepped on my Pede this morning, looking for my saw... ;)

Pack Ratting? Sounds Familiar.......

Good Morning Guys,

I hit the road in about an hour for our place in Napa and wanted to wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving before I turn off the computer.

Take care, and have a great holiday.
Bill

Same to you and yours Bill! Have a safe trip.

What was that? We just got sucked into Monster trucks! And I always thought the Stampede was an overgrown stadium truck. No more racing allowed guys, hear that? We are MONSTER TRUCK guys now.:p;)

Well, Bill, at least you guys have that huge warehosue to store stuff in! We do have a basement and an attic that are getting real full! We have boxes that I opened that had magazines that we moved with! We are now talking 13 year old magazines... :rolleyes: The trick is to remember they are there on recycling day!

Now, onto our assigned subject. Almost stepped on my Pede this morning, looking for my saw... ;) Chris,
You should put the Magazines on EBAY. I'm sure a lot pf people collect old PLAYBOY issues http://php-net.net/images/smiles/icon_evil.gif
, and you could probably get a lot of $$$ for some.....

-Tone

Yup, here we is! in a Spankin new forum! I think the Pede is considered a Monster truck because of the Big Tires.

Have a great Thanksgiving Bill (or I hope you HAD a good one as the case may be!).

I'll be leaving at 6am tomorrow morning to head to Stem, N. Carolina which is just North of Durham on I-85. 747 miles one way & comong back on Saturday.... I guess I'm a glutton for the driving punishment! Plus side is I'm borrowing my Dads 2004 Lincoln Town car for the trip, so it should be pretty comfy!

Tone, I was a married man when I last moved. I assure you they are not Playboys. The wife made sure of that...:)

Tom- let's see, a 550 mile drive in a big old pick-up vs. 750 in a towncar. I think I will go for the towncar every time! Good safe drving for you as well!

Tone, I was a married man when I last moved. I assure you they are not Playboys. The wife made sure of that...:)

Damn.... well, i'm sure whatever magazines they are, i am sure listing them on ebay might be a good idea.... i know i look for solder magazines sometimes!

-Tone

Thanks Chris. Should be OK. I'll be away from the 'puter until Sunday, so I'll type at ya then!

Now, I still want to make my own TLT chassis but check THIS (http://www.teamprpracing.com/tlt.html) out! That is one sweet looking chassis. Lots of bucks considering how much stuff you still need to do but I am seriously tempted. Perhaps after I spend a few days struggling with my own design it will seem more reasonable. :p

Well Tom, Jesse found a way to bust up those delrin arms... He smacked a curb in a power slide and did a number on the left one! The hub carrier popped out of the retaining screws. It wasn't until we got home that we realized it was because he had split the arm allowing it to flex open enough to release the carrier. It will probably still work but that remains to be seen. He also bent his shock shaft at the same time so we are parts hunting. :rolleyes: Had both pedes out as well and neither ran worth a hoot. Time for some motor work. Had a good time though, and that is, after all, what really matters.

nice to hear you guys had a good turkey. no progress but may have sold my pede for parts, and a cheap buy in on a tlt-10 proto type conversion chassis. but their is always christmas for a nw one, but am leaning twoards the txt-1 though.... but don't know if i can part with it yet ;)

have a good weekend all :)

Just spent much of the day working on the house while thinking about r/c... I have a ton of Pede parts. So many that I figure I could build up a spare Pede with very few purchases. This thought came up because with all the aluminum I have on my current ride it is a tank! A nice looking tank for sure, but a tank all the same. Both shock towers and the rear arms are aluminum. I have front aluminum ones but they would unwiden it. So, I thought, why not have a slick looking aluminum one and a lighter faster one?

It is nice to have a tough one (not that any of ours are weaklings). We had a 9 yr old over to visit yesteday and I just handed him the truck, showed him how to control it and walked away. (Jess and Sean were there). There is so little that he can do to hurt it! He ran most of a pack through until the motor acted up. No harm at all. What could be better than that? The only part I have broke n recently was my font pivot block. They make those out of aluminum too! :devil:

Hi guys! was tired yesterday when I got home so I saved checking in until today at work. (What else are you supposed to do at work anyway? :lol: )

Hope everybody had as great a holiday as I did. I'm really glad I went South. I took my E-Maxx & 'Pede down with me (Lincolns have big trunks!) because I knew my Aunt had a big field with a Baseball diamond on it there. What a blast! But I broke the Pede on the 3rd pack :( , busted the flexy front shock tower. But I guess the reason for the breakage is understandable though. My Aunts kids (12-13yr olds I think) have some Quads and small motorcycles so they have this little "track" out there now & use the baseball diamond more for doing donuts than playing ball. Well they also have these 2 plastic jump ramps out there.....:devil: Well we were jumping them (way cool!) with the Maxx & the Pede and ad them set up in series which was cool, but then we decided to set them up as a double, launching (best descriptive word) off one and landing on the other as a down ramp. Well we kept moving them farther apart to get the "perfect" distance and I hit the jump "imperfectly" and cased the top edge of the plastic landing ramp real hard. There was a collective "Aahhh" from all of us because it looked and sounded pretty gnarly, I thought maybe the chassis would snap in two! But it stopped on its lid and it looked ok, so we kicked it over & off it went for about a foot before we realized it had problems. Thought maybe it was a bent shock shaft or lost/broken mount screw, but nope! A busted Shock tower, oh well. I still drove a pack in it. My dad came out with his fancy new Digital Camera and snapped a few pics of us and has some good pics of the action which I will post up as soon as her gets me the copies! They are pretty good I must say. Nothing broke on the Maxx. It was a good weekend. My Aunt is mad at me for getting her boys so interested in R/C.... heh. BTW my Aunt is only 2 yrs older than me.

Chris, That TLT conversion looks pretty trick, looks like a 4 piece CF chassis. I think what you have in mind will be simpler & much cheaper. Didn't notice them saying they use the Pede tranny case, I wonder what they do use?
Jesse broke a Delrin arm huh? Wow.

Tom,
They say they use Pede gears, nto the casing. I would be very interested is seeing one close up. Mine will definitely be easier to make! Not as sexy though.

Yeah, he cracked it across the outer brace that runs front to back. I didn't see it but it sure was loud!:p As I said, we will try it with the crack but I am pretty sure I could drill and tap into the broken section and shore it up. The crack is right near the main piece of the arm so it wouldn't take a long screw to secure it. We shall see.

Glad you had a good trip! Until I bought that Rusty with all the aluminum, the only aluminum I had on my Pede was the front shock tower. Went through two or three of the plastic ones and they are a pain to replace.

While working on the truck I realized I had toasted my pivot block. The left arm was almost half torn off! The kingpin was bent horribly. Finally had to dremel it in pieces to get it out. In fact, both pins were bent. Time to get one of those pivot block braces. No, past time.:rolleyes:

Hmmnnn. Front shock tower is a weakness? Maybe I'll have to "custom cut" one out of the carbon fiber sheet I have. I'd have to double up (maybe even triple up) the sheet since it is thin. Made great Mini-t Front shock towers as a single layer but I think the pede would need at least double thickness. Could be a cheap way out!

And it would look so cool! I really don't know why it is weak but they do seem to break. Usually not catastrophically but they crack...

the prp tlt chassis kit is made from g10 fiberglass.

just a fyi for thoose who were wondering ;)

peter
:)

Peter,
Have you heard anything about how the PRP compares with the Penguin chassis for the TLT? I know the PRP uses the pede tranny parts which appeals to me but at the same time, their website implies they have really loosened up stuff on the stock so it is a better tranny. You still liking yours?

AND, while I am picking your brain, how easy is it with the Penguin to swap motors and/or pinions? It looks from their site very much like the standard problems with the stock chassis. That is I my beef with the PSW chassis: it is hell to swap anything out. (my servo taping down my batts doesn't help whreas the Penguin velcro strap system looks good).
TIA

Hi Guys,

Just stopping by to check on the site, you guys, and this internet connection. All seems well.....

Take care.
Bill

Hey Bill!

You still up in Napa? Hope you are having a good trip.

I was wondering if the Stampede was still the way to go. I asked this question last year in this forum but now I'm actually ready to buy something. I was pretty much sold on a Pede w/esc. Ive never had an rc truck before, only planes. I want something reliable, fun... you now something I can use in the backyard. Something I can hop up down the road. Is there something new out there Im missing or am I on the right track?

Nothing "new" that would be recommended over the 'Pede, the 'Pede makes a good all around basher. The stock tires leave a little to be desired in great traction but they do OK (of course I like everything to be "hooked up").

For a first truck & for bashing around the yard/driveway/street, it's hard to beat the Stampede.

I still agree with Tom! The Pede with the ESC as a casual basher is a great way to go. If you see any chance of your wanting faster motors in it though, I would recommend getting the MSC and a better ESC. I think the money saved between the two models will almost pay for the ESC. The stock one is fine for the motor it comes with but not much more.

One of the traditional weak points of a Pede has been fixed, so I hear. The old trucks came with a lame servo that quickly died. Now it comes with the same one they run in the Maxx trucks which holds up much better. Very nice as that saves $25-$40 in upgrades. You will still want bearings and, ideally the RPM bearing carriers which are stronger and hold larger bearings that will last MUCH longer.

thanks for the input, the other truck I was looking at was the Mini Quake. Its a little smaller, 4wd and comes with a lot of components that would normally be considered extras... Does anyone know about thisTruck? Thanks - Ed

The mini quake is a whole lot more than a "little" smaller. Being a 1/18 scale truck, it is just over half the size! Don't know much about it yet but for backyard bashing, I would worry about not being able to get through or over much of what a Pede would stroll through.

Don't get me wrong, I have a Tamiya TLT- also 1/18 scale and it is fun. But, I don't get out with it nearly as much as the Pede. The Quake seems a better design than the TLT in terms of stability so it may not be as tippy. It will never match the speed of a Pede though, especially not with a hot motor :devil: .

Do you have small hands or skinny fingers? If so, then take a look at the Mini Quake, if not, go with the Pede for sure. Little vehicles mean little screws and tighter areas to work around. Ask Chris what it takes to change a motor in his TLT!

I think if this is your first truck the Stampede is a simpler truck.

don't get me started on the TLT motor change! Please!:p

No truck is totally simple to work on and there are parts of each truck that will need work. On the Pede, for example, if you run it hard, jumping and doing wheelies and the like, it is a good bet that you will trash one of the gears in the tranny: the idler gear. When you do that- the FIRST time, you should go out and buy the aluminum version which will not break again. You will understand why after you have removed something like 20 screws to get into the tranny! This is not a job you want to do over and over again. It isn't complicated, it just takes time and lots of screw twisting. I have heard of some people who (when kits were available), put all the hop-ups on on the first build of the truck thereby saving tons of energy later on. Personally, I enjoy working on the trucks and an occasional tear down is good to make sure things are working well.

I hear what you are saying, I will take your advice... The Pede it is. I will let you know how it goes, thanks for the help.

I haven't read the old thread, but I have a stampede.

So far it has ribbed front tires, a 20 turn motor and esc with 8 cells.
Runs about as fast as my evader , It's just fun to bash, that's for sure.

Oh I forgot the 20 turn finally burnt up, and I put a 27 in it, have to test yet.

AND, while I am picking your brain, how easy is it with the Penguin to swap motors and/or pinions? It looks from their site very much like the standard problems with the stock chassis. That is I my beef with the PSW chassis: it is hell to swap anything out. (my servo taping down my batts doesn't help whreas the Penguin velcro strap system looks good).
TIA

i love my penguin, but that is on a smaller wheelbase setup. if i was going for a 10th scale set up the prp would be on the top of my list. at rccrawler soemone is going to build a tlt-10 from a penguin chassis i will let you know how it goes. but swapping motors in the p2300 is so easy. you only have to take ;) half the truck apart, and it uses less screws too. the tranny interlocks into the sideplates. the batts trays are truley awsome. but i made some out of lexan for the big tlt. they don't look to good but work great.

but i got to run afew of the new trucks(18th scale) at the track last night. after racing we had a bash fest with my long tlt-10, a tlt with a short extension, a stock maxx climber, mini quake, and a new out of the box rc18. was the must fun i've had in long time. all very nice and all very different beasties.

hello everybody:)