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ChrisHarris 11-05-2004, 11:45 AM Sidewall flex would amount to the same thing as suspension travel wouldn't it?
I think I will simply have to try it out. I have an OLD (like 40 yrs) canvas sail/mast/boom from my childhood. I think I will simply mount that on with a fixed sail position and see if it moves at all!
ronbeck 11-05-2004, 11:49 AM i am thinking of the weight sihifting left and right and not up and down. like when you in high school driving your mom's S-10 and you corner hard and almost put it the ditch becouse the sidewall flew/rolled, becouse your momentum stopped going forwart and start moving side ways;)
but non of us would ever do that...
:)
Any flexing between the mast, sail, chassie, suppension, and tires is lost energy. As the wind fills the sail and the sheets are set the pushing on the sail or the air sliding by the sail will force the vehicle forward. If you loose too much of that energy while the vehicle tilts, sways, or otherwise slips the power off your sail you loose control.
I would consider round plywood wheels or hard solid rubber ones. Reduce friction and eleminate tire compression.
If the kids are going to set these vehicles down on the ground and let the wind push them along and there is no need for sailing to weather I would consider a square rig or gaft rig instead of the standard sloop rig with a main and jib. The old sailing set ups were great at going with the weather they just could not sail into it. Far less complicated.
ChrisHarris 11-06-2004, 12:18 AM Nah, this is my game! Sean was doing his at school. Took first place for speed and distance. There were two contests: Speed and distance... :thumbsup:
OK. are you looking to just sail in front of the wind or would you like to bring it back as well?
ChrisHarris 11-06-2004, 11:37 AM Back would be nice! Yes, I would like to be able to tack up wind.
There ya go doing it the hard way.
Always wanting all the do dads.
Did some work on our little track today.
tommckay 11-06-2004, 11:31 PM square rig or gaft rig instead of the standard sloop rig with a main and jib...........
Ok, I'm lost. What?
ChrisHarris 11-07-2004, 07:45 AM Tom,
You have to understand that Bill is a long time sailor. R/C is a new hobby to him. Or did you miss the last page where I said I wanted to make a saile pede? :p
Soccer is finally over!!!! We won our last game which was a nice thing. Maybe now I can find some time to get in the hobby room and play with my toys.
We had a nice little rain last night so all the work we did on the RC track yesterday should be well watered in and ready for the next phase. The jumps.
Sorry Tom for the sailing lingo but I was trying to determin just how much sailing Chris wanted to do. He to has spent some time on the water in sailboats, so I new he would understand. The older sailing vessels had square rigged sails which let you catch the wind and sail along with it. The gaff rig does the same thing but with a little more direction ability. So if you are in the north and the wind is blowing toward the south, the only sailing you could do with these types of sails is move toward the east, south, or west. The newer sail designs allow you to sail from the south to the north in the same wind. The new sails are designed to use the sails much like a plane uses the wings to create lift. So the vessel can sail into the wind.
So Chris where are you at this point? Pede = boat, and.....
ChrisHarris 11-07-2004, 12:02 PM I am at Pede= Pede.
I stripped pretty much everythign I could off the pede and put on small light wheels. I did NOT disconnect the tranny as that would have meant lots of work. I installed a very basic triangluar canvas sail, approximately 15" long, 2+ feet high. I set the sail at about 45 degrees. I put my shop fan on high and aimed it at the sail from lots of directions and got zero motion. So, I reinstalled the ESC, put on a new rear body mount (Sean had killed the old one in a duel (which he won, obviously). I still have to put the wheels back on as well as the motor. Nice experiment which is now concluded. Oh well.
Got the ESC back in the TLT as well. Turned it on and it wouldn't move. The steerign is good but no go without a push. I know this is an intelliweak ESC so I am hoping it was low batts that wasn't sending the power to the motor. If it is the motor, I will simply scream since it takes SO much effort to pull a motor with this chassis. I was pretty sure it worked before hand but...
All the more impetus to build an new longer truck chassis using a Pede tranny with motor swapping a must!
ronbeck 11-07-2004, 12:41 PM sounds like a hung brush/dirty com, the intistinks i have will go fiorward but not turn whent eh batts are runinnig low. and when i take out the motor, i just remove the electronics trays, and body cross braces at the back of the motor. and i usally have a nuff room to get it out. even with a titan. i redid the suspension links on scott's tlt-10(maxx sized truack), and barrowed some intec wideners wow it's big. almost 3 inches of chassis clearance, and removed the links form the bottom of the axles:)
good luck with the tlt mine is in a pile of peices again. the great tinker continues..
ChrisHarris 11-07-2004, 04:46 PM Its's a fresh motor- or so I thought. Brushes are free and the comm looks good, what I can see of it.
My problem is that with the PSW chassis, I run a 3X3 pair of packs, one on each tray. Because they don't have caputred nuts, I have to drop both axles to get to the nuts that hold on the plate. I have to unservotape the batts. Unservo tape the electronics tray. Unsolder the motor. It ain't fun.
Well Chris, it was fun for me. Did you like it?
The track took the natural watering well. One of the problems this track always had was the unlevel ground. Now that I'm releveling it the tract will have a better start point and develop into a much better race track. In the past the straights had dips and bump and the turns were banked wrong.
The new back hoe really helps speed up this whole project.
ChrisHarris 11-08-2004, 07:37 AM Yes Bill, it was good for me too!;)
The only difference between the men and the boys is the price of their toys!
I still think you need to have the archery range open while you are driving. That would make it much more exciting! maybe not for the marshallls...
I still think you need to have the archery range open while you are driving. That would make it much more exciting! maybe not for the marshallls...
This is an idea that I had not thought of. Lots of possibilities like shooting at the truck as is, dressing the truck up as the animal of the day, as a towing vehicle for the real target, and.....
tommckay 11-08-2004, 10:42 AM *sigh*
Hi all. Nuttin to say today...
ChrisHarris 11-08-2004, 04:12 PM OOH, I know! Dress the truck up as a deer. You don't have enough of them around there anyway.:p
tommckay 11-09-2004, 09:09 AM Dress one up as buffalo droppings and see who can spot the moving cowpie first....
Could also be used as a great practical joke.... follow someone with it. Everytime they turn around, there's a cowpie there.
That would take a lot of "pie" Tom to cover a pede. Maybe use one of those little TLT's.
ChrisHarris 11-09-2004, 01:47 PM I don't know, they are pretty high off the ground. maybe a BRP or a micro...
That would definitely beat my candy-delivery Pede!
tommckay 11-10-2004, 09:00 AM Taking off this evening. Helping my son move to Glen Burnie MD (SE side of Baltimore). Leaving tonight should be there Tomorrow about noon(ish). Plan is to stop for the night just west of Youngstown OH Hopefully along 76 on the north side of Pittsburg PA, that would be 278miles & about 1/2 way. Then hit the road at 7am and arrive noonish Get the apartment keys and get stuff moved in tomorrow afternoon. Luckily my son doesn't have that much stuff yet.
Not looking forward to this much, Moving my oldest son 550 miles away & having to drive my truck down there and back again pulling a trailer. He's paying for the gas, but it's not gonna be cheap. I think my truck gets like 8mpg when I pull stuff. About $290 in gas if we're lucky & get the 8mpg. Alot of work & driving this week & weekend.
I'm at work now, getting out at 3pm, heading over to his current apartment to load the last few heavy things & then hitting the road. Hope to be on the road by 6 and get 4 hours in before we stop. Won't have internet access or Computer until I get back sometime Saturday. Sunday is recouperation day & I'll check in then (maybe Saturday if I'm not too beat). But I'll probably check back in before I leave at 3 today.
ChrisHarris 11-10-2004, 09:28 AM No, that does not sound like a fun drive at all. At least he will have his son's company! That is the same distance I drove to Monster Jam. That sucked. At least I was getting almost three times his milage! I wonder if it would have been cheaper to rent a u-haul that got better milage!
It was 20 degrees this morning.:cry: I am seriously not ready for winter. I guess I am getting ready to hybernate or something. Spent lots of time thinking about hwo to improve the hobby room space. Starting with tearing out the totally unused 5X12' train layout I made for the guys many years ago. It takes up some serious real estate down in the basement!
Had a totally bizarre Pede dream last night. Something about crawling in the snow and ending up in a lake, floating away. I think I need a vacation. :rolleyes:
tommckay 11-10-2004, 03:50 PM Thanks for the well wishes. Checked into a U-haul and it would have been about $350 one way + some mileage. A trailer alone was $250. This won't be cheap, but it's the cheapest way to go. *sigh* 10 minutes & I'm gone.
ChrisHarris 11-10-2004, 09:32 PM On the hunt for a tricked out Rusty! The guy I sold Jess's Clod to is selling off a largely aluminum rusty. He's asking $80 but I am hoping he will come down. It would give me aluminum arms front and rear and a rear tower to match the front one I already have. Might not use the fronts as that would unwiden my truck but... I could sell off the rusty as a roller once I gut it. I have more than enough plastic stuff around...
ChrisHarris 11-11-2004, 10:27 AM It's getting better! He is really interested in my crawler so it looks like I may trade the crawler chassis for the Rusty plus cash! Then I can sell off the axles..... Different toys are so much fun! I will miss that crawler though. I am so proud of that one. Nice to pass it on to someone who will appreciate it (I hope!).
Sounds like another good deal for Chris.
Is it having the new vehicle that makes you want to change or the idea of having something new to play/work with that does?
ChrisHarris 11-11-2004, 03:37 PM Well, I had been thinking of selling the crawler for a while anyway. Not using it and Clods take up huge room! Actually, I will still have the wheels and axles so I haven't saved much space... It is just something different. It will give me a reason to play with the Pede a bit in the shop...
ChrisHarris 11-12-2004, 01:56 PM It's snowing... *sigh*
Sold off the crawler chassis for that Rusty and cash! Then I sold off the XXXT Sport for just plain old cash. It is fun cashing in on your old stuff! At least I have more than enough to keep that game up for a long time before I run out.
ChrisHarris 11-13-2004, 07:14 PM Well, a bunch of years ago I made my guys a huge HO train layout. At first there was a bit of interest but I think they have touched it once in the last year. So, today, it came down. It had been taking up about 1/4 of the usable basement at 12X5'. Now, I have tons of room! I took the two ends and stacked them up giving me one table that will serve as the "charging area", and a 2.5X5 ft shelf above that for the trucks. I also have a pair of 18"x 6 ft sections that will serve as extra work space. Much happiness! Sorry the guys didn't appreciate the trains but it was fun building the layout with it's bridges, tunnels and lake... Oh well.
Started in on the TLT transformation last night but decided I need some material from work to get it done. I will be using a Pede tranny with the stock chassis plates. I want 3/16" links and cross pieces. All I have here at home is 1/4"... When it is done it should fit a stock Pede body perfectly! About 3" longer than it is now. we shall see.
Oh, we got about 4" of snow. Enough for the guys to have fun and make a bit of money but also enough to kill off my bike commuting. such is winter in N.E. (shut it, Bill! ;) )
tommckay 11-14-2004, 12:51 PM Hi Guys. Back from Baltimore safe & sound. We were deluged in rain all day Friday, same system that brought you the snow Chris. At least if it had to rain, it did it then & not when we were moving stuff or traveling. We had beautiful weather to travel in. Averaged about 8.25mpg thanks to drafting Semis.... $123.00 in gas each way, so $250 total. Saved some money.
Got home at 8:15 last night 12 hours on the road with stops & the hour & a half each way extra to Lansing & back.
ChrisHarris 11-14-2004, 03:58 PM Glad the trip went well. That is a long time to be in a car/truck! I don't understand how long distance haulers can ever do their job!
Would have been much tougher had it been snow! Glad it wasn't.
Good to hear your home safe and sound, Tom.
Chris the long haul guys....... how they do it? It's got to be drugs.
I tried the train thing with Kevin and had the same results. Some excitement but not enough to keep him into it. A hobby that makes you enjoy the building as much as the running or it will not be fun.
Yeah our winter is here. Its rained twice and has dropped to a cool 63 degrees. But that only last until the sun is completely up then back to the 70's.
We've got one more week of program, that means the campers will be here, then bye bye ya all and the camp is ours. After a week of walking around naked and listening to the quite I can get into some sold work with no interruptions.
ChrisHarris 11-14-2004, 07:55 PM I am sure that Kevin truely loves when you walk around in the buff. ;)
Role models are SO important. :D
Got major work done on the hobby room today! I have one table dedicated to charging batts and motor work. I will have to take some photos. Of course I didn't take shots of the disaster before I pulled all that stuff out of the main work area but... without the trains I can actually walk in there. Other than continuing the set-up, my next major effort is music! All I have downt here is a mid-70's receiver and a similar age pair of crappy speakers. Jesse keeps wondering why I don't get music the moment I turn it on. He had no clue what a "tube" is. I am old.
No I walk alone.
I'll have to ask Kev about tubes. We not old, so they say, we're experenced.
:wave:
ChrisHarris 11-15-2004, 08:11 AM Most kids don't even know how to spell vacuum... Mine sure never use them. Never mind. Happy Monday everyone!
ChrisHarris 11-15-2004, 08:40 AM Here is a real fast photo of my new charging area. I don't have photoshop on my computer right now so I am learning how to use something else-slowly. Imagine all the garf as being cleaned up so it is actually a pretty place.
tommckay 11-15-2004, 09:13 AM Bill - I didn't know your camp was a part time nudist colony!
Chris - Looks like a basement!
You need a cheap office chair with wheels so you can roll and swivel from "charging station" to "workbench" effortlessley!
I got a new digi camera (new to me anyway) from my Dad for my upcoming birthday. I'll have to take a pic or 2 of my "Pit Room" and post up. I really like my pit room!
ChrisHarris 11-15-2004, 09:50 AM Yup, it is a basement! Got it on the first try. I am impressed!
You would have to know what it was before to appreciate it. Those two benches were the ends of the train layout. Now all of the chargers and batteries have their own little home! And there is a light in there which of course you can't see with the flash... Basically it just means less clutter elsewhere. Even the lathe and it's power supply have a home there. I think the entire motor rebuilding thing will happen there.
Yes, an r/c controlled rolling chair would be even better!
Considering what people wear around here in the summer, total nudity is not much of a change.
Having a comfortable, functional, and organized work space is very important. I spend more time looking through boxes for parts than I do driving.
Later
eviltone 11-15-2004, 12:38 PM Ok.. Chris - its a gooood thing you didnt do a deal with that REVONUT guy...
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=95579
-Tone
ChrisHarris 11-15-2004, 02:15 PM Tone,
Thanks for the link! I was saying to this kid, who I have now sold two trucks to, that I tend to trust people but I also have a really good sense of danger. Both Revonut and CuztomClodz just sent these horrible vibes. I have been screwed a couple times but only on eBay where I wasn't really able to communicate with the guy before it was too late.
Frankly the poor guy who got took had plenty of warnings! All you have to do is read the posts showing that this guy is fishy as hell. Anybody who doesn't respond to direct questions and offers should immediately be shyed away from.
ronbeck 11-15-2004, 02:33 PM looking at the the guys email i don't think i would trust him. these days all i have is time and my word. and if my word is worthless i have nothing... trying to teach that to my kids.. looks like everyone had a good couple of days. gutting the pede for it's tranny for a tlt based project(maybe).
we have a long wheel base tlt that is coming along very well(had to part out my truck to get it there). but i am leaning twards a more scale solid axle indoor basher. getting tired of waiting for my traxxa 4tec diff to change the link mounting.
i love the speed and ability of the 10th+ scale trucks. but am limited by indoor room to run. and without having a compressor i do not like running out in the wet very much.
but chris if you go large i did a link mount swap that raised my chassis without making the truck tippy. just go back to my new monster thread ...
have a good week all(maybe i will get emails to updates again.....)
peter
ChrisHarris 11-15-2004, 04:28 PM but chris if you go large i did a link mount swap that raised my chassis without making the truck tippy. just go back to my new monster thread ...
peter
Which thread is that? What board?
I didn't have the time today to get the rod to join my chassis halves. I could just pick up 3/16" rod and hack it at home but having a lathe to use here at work makes it way simpler in terms of drilling and tapping.
The Rusty should be here tomorrow. I will post pix. I have to decide how I want to play with tha tone. There is a ton of aluminum on it. I could just move it over to a Pede but that would unwiden it...
Or I could take the aluminum shock tower off the Pede and put it on the Rusty, finishing that up! Then slap on the 5800 and bash to I drop! It comes with M2K tires I think so it should be a ton of fun...
ronbeck 11-15-2004, 04:49 PM http://www.one18th.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6422&page=4&pp=40
secound to last post on the page. over at rccrawler.com (small scale)wookie posted the how to there. it might be at one18th as well.
good luck with the projects... i think it would be easier to mount he maxx tranny in the project in mind........
ChrisHarris 11-15-2004, 07:08 PM Looks great! I currently have simply mounted one of my SPARE Pede trannies :tongue: onto the stock plate and plan to widen it just a bit to make room for the spur gear. It involved some hacking of the case but... It will be 2.5" wide rather than 2.0". It means remaking all the cross pieces. Perhaps I should look more closely at what it would take to simply make a couple of chassis plates. It might be easier to make them with a huge hole for the spur than to do it my way...
tommckay 11-16-2004, 04:17 PM :o :confused: :wave: 'Sup guys!
ChrisHarris 11-16-2004, 04:28 PM Hey all!
Well, spent some more time in the dungeon last night. Decided to carve the heck out of the stock TLT chassis and make it fit the Pede chassis. Looks like it will work pretty well!
Then I spent a bunch of time just staring at the beast trying to invision shock placement and such. Got nowhere. Went to bed. I have to decide whether to run straight shocks or reuse the cantis. Too many choices.
Just checked in with Jesse and the Rusty hasn't landed yet. I still hope it will come on a late UPS shipment.
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