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ChrisHarris
10-28-2004, 05:53 AM
Bill,
That might be why it is against the law to use them on bicycles in this state. or while driving a car! :thumbsup:

I can relate to people that have them on all the time as running from reality but sometimes reality needs to be run from. Even if just for a little while.

tommckay
10-28-2004, 07:30 AM
I just have this wierd picture of Chris wearing his iPod dancing around like the people in the commercials. :lol: :freak:

So this "CustomClodz" guy posted pictures of your truck claiming to be the owner? was he trying to sell it or just say "lookie what I got" prematurely?

My 'Pede is sitting on the table in my pit room. (had to say something 'Pede related!)

Bill
10-28-2004, 09:27 AM
Hi Guys, sorry for the rant. Chris, you stated the case much better than I.

We are finialy getting some rain and the dust has turned to mud. But about three hours after a down poor the ground is ready to drive on. Thats RC size vehicles only. Takes another hour of drying for the big ones. Anyway the RC driving is starting back up around here. So the pede is seeing more day light.

Bill
10-28-2004, 09:28 AM
Oh yeah, congradulations Boston.

ChrisHarris
10-28-2004, 09:32 AM
Oh, it was the latter. Turns out he is a snot nosed 17 yr old that thinks his poop don't stink. I had a blast with him on Clodtalk. Hopefully the word got out. he seems to have a history...

The guy interested in my crawler backed out but that is fine as it wasn't ready for sale anyway! Need to place an order etc.

It is looking good for our new track place! I guess he needs a varience from the community but that doesn't seem to be an expected problem. That might allow us to do some racing by winter. Of course this new place doesn't have heat on the track so it will be something like the last ice box! At least it is better enclosed. I guess the last place had a huge hole at one end just letting the icy wind in. And this one has a bathroom! No more porta-potties!

Cool story. I sold off a radio to a local guy last night. When he picked it up he told me he used to run an indoor R/C thing at our High School about 15 years ago. He said there was this one little girl with a pink ClodBuster! Slow and cumbersome but there and having a blast. He was at a race in Conn recently and he ran into this same girl! Now an adult, working at the track, painting lids and making a life at r/c! Wouldn't that be cool to know that you had that sort of an influence on somebody?

tommckay
10-29-2004, 07:30 AM
What thread was this in at clodtalk? I'd like to check this out, I could use a laugh! I'm not a member so I can't even see the Buy/Sell stuff. Can't even see some of the pics, but that's OK.

Indoor dirt is the best (in the winter), but no heat? Yuck. They could at least bring in some of those "Salamanders" (torpedo looking heaters) like they do (or used to do) in Columbus at CRCRC. If they could just get it up to 50 in the building during race days that would be sweatshirt weather & comfortable.

Having an R/C influence over a young person like that is cool, My youngest is really getting into it on his own which is cool, he's been buying his own equipment, parts, & vehicles. Racing more often than me too, now he beats me regularly though :( but I still woop on him in E-Maxx! :) I think he'll be doing R/C for quite a while. My oldest probably not. He's moving to Baltimore on Nov. 11th for his new Federal Government Job, He has bought some R/C stuff, but only stuff that was necessary to keep running.

ChrisHarris
10-29-2004, 08:42 AM
The thread is in the member's fleet section. He did finally pull my shots!

They had one torpedo last winter but they were using it to keep the shop from freezing. I understand this new place the shop, pits and on-road track will already have heat so that torpedo could be used on the off-road track. The only trouble is that the track will be huge and it could take quite some time to warm up. We shall see!

If our track was closer I have no doubt that Jesse would be more involved than he is. Rightnow he is busy being almost 13 and that takes up so much time. All that moping about and being sulky is exhausting.:p

tommckay
10-29-2004, 02:44 PM
Nice. Snot nosed seems accurate. Parents with lots of money and he gets a healthy allowance but has not learned "responsibility" yet.

Reminds me of a kid on another R/C board I frequent that is 15 and thinks he knows something about everything. Comments on everything, including riding motorcycles in traffic. Uh... Hello! you're 15!! you can't even legally drive yet!

Well the new track should be much better even with only 1 torpedo if there are no "gaping holes" in the walls & i nobody stands in the doorway trying to smoke a cig "outside" without actually going outside.

Jesse is still young. My youngest didn't start doing his own stuff until he got a job so he had his own money.

ChrisHarris
10-30-2004, 07:39 PM
I'm sitting here in front of a brand new 20" imac computer! We were really tired of the old imac we had and finally decided to just do it. This screeen is insanely large. Can't wait to load up some of my driving games! This sucker is infinitely faster as well!

One soccer game left. We got our butts handed to us today. Again. We were winning after the first half, definitely showing them our stuff. Then we just ran out of steam. We had one sub until 5 minutes from the end. They had 5-6. They just ran circles around my guys. It hurts to know it is purely a matter of numbers. Sean really strutted his stuff though. The opposing coaches were just shaking their heads at the saves he made in goal! We lost by two. it would have been 8 if he hadn't been there. I couldn't believe it myself and I have sen him all year. That helped.

Bill
10-31-2004, 01:38 AM
Great post about Sean. Enjoyed reading it.

How long did you have your last Mac?

ChrisHarris
10-31-2004, 08:31 AM
Well, we actually have a bunch of macs! The one that I retired for this one was an old 400 MHz machine that was probably 5 yrs old at least. We had been about to replace a slightly older one when this last one was given to us for nothing. I am glad because this one is so much nicer than anything I would have gotten back then! :)

tommckay
10-31-2004, 11:35 AM
It's always cool to get a new 'puter! they're usually so much faster than your old one. Man it sure don't take long for a computer to get old! wait 3 years and the current "top of the line" $2300 computer will be the entry level $600 computer. I bought mine new a few years ago, 1gig pentium 3, 128meg ram, 60gig HD with DVD and CD-RW, wasn't quite top of the line then, but just a step down. Now I look at what the units that are the same price I paid for this one and they are 2-3 times more powerful.

Sean is a goalie guru? cool.

ChrisHarris
10-31-2004, 12:32 PM
Well, this puppy has a 20" flat screen and I don't see that getting small and outdated any time soon! :thumbsup: The rest, yeah, that will be outdated next week.

Yup, Sean loves the goal. I have no idea why. Talk about putting yourself in danger! He just dives right out there into the flailing feet. So far he hasnt' gotten too beaten up but he sure gets the respect of the other players because they KNOW that a one-on-one against him doesn't mean a goal. No way! There was one game where he was totally on and he was actually laughing at the offense guys as they rushed in on him. With a little wag of the finger inviiting them in. That game most of them shanked it because they didn't want to get near him. :lol: We still lose all the time but it sure isn't from trying.

Bill
10-31-2004, 09:52 PM
Yeah, I'm going through the, is that fast enough, will it have enough RAM, how much HD space do I need, etc. questions as we speak. I'm getting a new one and I'm concerned that within a year I will be right back to where I am now. Wanting/needing more.

Kind of like RC cars. There is always a better one out there.

eviltone
11-01-2004, 12:59 AM
Yeah, I'm going through the, is that fast enough, will it have enough RAM, how much HD space do I need, etc. questions as we speak. I'm getting a new one and I'm concerned that within a year I will be right back to where I am now. Wanting/needing more.

Kind of like RC cars. There is always a better one out there.Ok... this is where my TECH expertise will step in...

THE MINIMUM amount of RAM you should EVER get is 512 megabytes.
THE MINIMUM HardDrive size is 60 GigaBytes
Minimum Processor speed is 2.4 GigaHertz
Minimum Video Card Memory is 64 MegaBytes

Thanks and have a GREAT day

-Tone

ChrisHarris
11-01-2004, 06:53 AM
Spoken as a true PC owner....

eviltone
11-01-2004, 08:28 AM
Actually, Chris, its spoken like a true (ex) System Administrator and Freelance PC repairman.
I'm soooo sick of working on PC's w/o at least 512 MB ram. the difference between 256 and 512 is night and day!

Anywyas.. since this is the "Stampede" forum...... Looks like my wife has decided she wants to race INDOORS. Soooo, guess what she is going to race? STAMPEDE! I got the foams from my bro's rustler that she's gonna use, and she's gotta use my m8 radio, since i REFUSE to take my electronics out of it, and set up on a different radio. Its gonna be a wild time! hopefully i can get some pics of her running over Touring cars and stuff, since she'll be running oval in the Novice Oval class - which is "run what you got" the ONLY stipulation is that you have to use a club stock motor! I guess i get to see how indestructable the pede really is!

-Tone

tommckay
11-01-2004, 08:44 AM
My 'pede got raced Saturday by a friend of my sons. He had never driven an R/C car on a track before & had only driven any type of R/C a couple of times prior. Talk about a Novice!! He never broke it. I had to replace the brushes on the motor because it quit running good and replace a screw that fell out, but that's all. Funny how motors don't seem to run too good on brushes that are just about 1/8th" long..... :freak:

eviltone
11-01-2004, 08:58 AM
My 'pede got raced Saturday by a friend of my sons. He had never driven an R/C car on a track before & had only driven any type of R/C a couple of times prior. Talk about a Novice!! He never broke it. I had to replace the brushes on the motor because it quit running good and replace a screw that fell out, but that's all. Funny how motors don't seem to run too good on brushes that are just about 1/8th" long..... :freak:
Heh! thats GREAT.. did you bring another young kid into our wonderful hobby to stay?
Brushes.... why wont they last forever? i wish they would! on my mod motors, i go thru brushes like no tomorrow.......

-Tone

ChrisHarris
11-01-2004, 09:44 AM
Tone- Actually the remark was based on the minimum processor speed. Our new Mac has a 1.8GHz processor and it will probalby run circles around a bunch of the 2.4's out there because of the architecture. I agree on the rest though! We put in 768M RAM and it smokes.

I have never seen a pede on foams. Must look pretty stange! I tried road tires on mine long ago and it just looked to bizarre! Handles pretty darn well though.

The Clod I just sold had Jess's old MM motors in it. I heard back from the kid who bought it that it ran fine for about a pack and then died. NO brushes in the front motor.:rolleyes:. I honestly had not even checked. I felt real bad and went to the LHS to pick up a couple sets. of course they had NONE! They didn't even have P-94 brushes. They are worthless. So, I figured I would send him the brushes from my MM's. I can't find one of them! I have no idea where the motor could be. so, I sent him one set of very slightly used brushes. That will get him going.

Yup, I can't imagine a tougher truck than a Pede. Perfect for a beginner. Or me.:p

eviltone
11-01-2004, 10:18 AM
Tone- Actually the remark was based on the minimum processor speed. Our new Mac has a 1.8GHz processor and it will probalby run circles around a bunch of the 2.4's out there because of the architecture. I agree on the rest though! We put in 768M RAM and it smokes.


You are absolutely correct.... the mac's are a different story. sometimes i wish i had one.
you pussed out on the ram, chris... another 256, and you would have a gig! i dont know why ram is more expensive for a mac.. its 100% the same as PC memory.... its gotta be a marketing thing. the minimum spec i use is 1 Gig of memory (except my laptop which has 768). aaah well.. i heard something about a new ipod - color screen, 60 gig hdd.... should be interesting....

-Tone

Bill
11-01-2004, 10:37 AM
Thanks Tone for the info on computers. When all is said and done I should have what you suggested. One advantage of the PC over a Mac is the ability to build your system. For example, I like to game over the net with mine, so the video card upgrade is more important than most of the software programs the package deals give you.

Take care.
:wave:

ChrisHarris
11-01-2004, 12:17 PM
actually the system came with 256 so I added 512. I just heard through the grapevine that having matching RAM chips will double my bus speed so I may just have to go and get another 512! The computer is so fast as it is!

As for gaming? I haven't gotten into that much but I did load on one driving game (Nascar something-or-other). There is a warning about refresh rate and how you have to keep it above 20-30 frames per second or you lose response time at the controls. They include a counter to make sure and they give you lots of ideas of what to shut down if it bogs down. I had everything on, highest resolution and I was still at 160 fps...:)

Turns out the steering wheel I had been using on the old one wont work on this which leaves me with the keyboard and that just wont work!:cry:

eviltone
11-01-2004, 01:55 PM
Thanks Tone for the info on computers. When all is said and done I should have what you suggested. One advantage of the PC over a Mac is the ability to build your system. For example, I like to game over the net with mine, so the video card upgrade is more important than most of the software programs the package deals give you.

Take care.
:wave:BINGO!!! With that said... 128 is the MINIMUM vid card Memory then! What kind of games do you play? if it is the graphic intensive kind, then yes..... 128 is the minimum!
The thing *I* like about the mac - How well it does graphics/arts. My Sister is going to school for graphic arts, and she *REQUIRES* a mac. I cannot wait for her to get a powerbook!
You can get to customize your Mac, but it sure gets expensive. I did try to build one for myself, but when it started to cost more than $5000, i gave up trying to rationalize that kind of purchase! Dual Processors, 2 Gig of memory, 240 gig HDD space, the HUGE wide cinema screen.... you can see where that was going.....

anyways... PEDE'S ROCK!

-Tone

tommckay
11-01-2004, 04:43 PM
Dang. Y'all have my home 'puter feelin' all weak and pathetic. :( I did have my son upgrade it to 512 RAM but jeez!

I gotta pull that motor out of the pede and do the comm on it, if it went thru a set of brushes it must need it! I'd really like to get a set of those new IMEX tires they have coming out that look similar to a BFG Mud Terrain tread pattern.

I also have another project I'm considering, I have a RS4 Sport sitting around and some wheels & tires from my old Tamiya F-150. Thinking of converting it to 190mm and getting a stock Clodbuster or Blackfoot body for it to make a scale looking pre-runner/stock 4x4 looking truck to mess around with. I already have 4 Losi Rally shocks I can graft onto it, all I need is the shorter dog bones, the body, and a Rally undertray to keep the dirt out.

ChrisHarris
11-01-2004, 08:50 PM
Sounds liike a fun project. I have been wanting a road car for a while but the pavement around here is so bad that a rallye would make much more sense. Right in front of our hosue I have busted the Pede hitting potholes! Imagine what that would do to a sedan. :eek:

ChrisHarris
11-02-2004, 08:16 AM
Just popped over to Clodtalk and found that the butthead who bailed on Jess's truck just got scammed! The fool sent off a bunch of stuff before the guy sent him the money and all he got was a box of broken pottery! :p He was supposed to receive a bunch of stuff and $400. Then he went on to say he sent off some PS2 games and $50. Why in the world would you send money to get more money back.

I have so little pity for him I can hardly express it. Turns out that he has already made deals on some of the stuff that never came! A couple guys are ready to behead him for that. He has turned from a nasty teeenager to a very sulky one. When asked why he didn't go to his mother, the lawyer, his response is that she would be so mad at him that he wouldn't be able to deal over the internet. sounds liike a good thing.

What goes around comes around.

travymoto1
11-02-2004, 05:16 PM
What rims are available for the Electric Stampede aside from the stock chrome models? My son with be racing the Pede in novice on a clay track. I ordered some Pro-line Gladiators. The stock rims are fine....just curious about what might be available. Thanks in advance.

ronbeck
11-02-2004, 05:26 PM
rpm make a few different choices, http://www.rpmrcproducts.com/
almost any rim that uses a wide offset and a 12mm hex to mount the rim work. the hpi rims fit but you have to mod the axle hole. i run hpi rims but i beleive most people here run the rpm ones.

welcome:)

tommckay
11-03-2004, 08:13 AM
If I was to run another wheel it would be an RPM. They are tough, guaranteed, and they have some great looking styles!

ChrisHarris
11-03-2004, 09:17 AM
The ONLY problem I ahve with the RPM wheels is that the chrome peels off very quickly so they start looking nasty in short order. At least close-up. Never had one fail on me though!

travymoto1
11-03-2004, 11:45 AM
I decided to stick with the stock rims...for looks and price. What tires do you guys like for FL outdoor tracks...hard orange clay w/ some fluff on top?

ChrisHarris
11-03-2004, 12:10 PM
The stock rims are generally fine but they will round out the hexes after a while making them either useless or requiring you to glue the black hex nut into the rim. That method works fine though.

Are you going to be racing on this track? If so, I would find out what the stadium truck drivers are running and use the same thing. I run Masher 2000 tires most of the time but on our track which was hardpack with fluff on the top I had zero traction and I got nowhere fast. Good for donuts though!

mattyk6
11-03-2004, 01:21 PM
For hard pack with some dust, I would either run Taper Pins or Holeshots. Like Chris said, find out what the Stock Truck and Mod Truck guys are running at the track and run the same.

tommckay
11-03-2004, 02:21 PM
On outdoor tracks I think you'll find Holeshots, Fuzzie-T's, Square Fuzzies, T-2000's, Kingpins, & IFMAR pins to be among the best choices. Taper pins are mostly for the indoor venues from my expierience.

ChrisHarris
11-03-2004, 04:03 PM
Right! You did say Florida didn't you? I wonder what an outdoor track would be like...;)

travymoto1
11-03-2004, 05:14 PM
LOL...I used to live in NY so I know how that is.

The track seems to me like a "holeshot" track. I ordered some "Gladiator" M2 tires though. I want a some grip but also need some durability....because he will probably bash with them a bit as well. He is only 7 and will be running in the novice class.
It was funny though. Last Sat when I took him out to practice....the track had not been watered and for the first 3-4 minutes he was just doing dohnuts on the straits. He was used to running the truck in front of our house on the grass and concreat. He did get the hang of it and was driving more smoothly that his dad.
He loves this truck!!! I installed bearings in it. Anything else that you guys think is a must as far as upgrades? I did notice the diff was unloading, but I'm not ready to plunk down on the ball diff. :thumbsup:

ronbeck
11-03-2004, 05:48 PM
i would pass on the bal diff and try some different greases in the diff. i would look into a better servo saver. never had any luck with the traxxas units.i kept blowing savers or savers and servos.

good luck at the track, my 8 year old just likes to build the kits.;)

peter
:)

Bill
11-03-2004, 09:35 PM
The servo was the first upgrade on mine. Went with a metal geared one and have never had another problem. I did also changed the servo saver at the same time.

ChrisHarris
11-04-2004, 07:34 AM
There is a great Pede site (http://www.misbehavin-rc.com/pit-lane/es-pit-lane.asp) that will tell you just about everything you could imagine. Worth lots of time spent.

As for the diff unloading, many of us have put MUCH heavier grease into the diff and that helps a ton. The stuff Traxxas provides does nothign for you. Especially on a loose track. If that still doesn't help, look at whether there is binding on the side that isn't unloading. Mine was totallyundriveable for a while. I assumed it was the track but then, even on carpet it would spin out when I hit the throttle. Tore the whole thing down looking for a diff problem. Found nothing but then rebuilt, being careful not to over tighten the wheel nuts and all was good in the world. Just a thought.

travymoto1
11-04-2004, 12:27 PM
cool , thanks for the info guys. I just ordered a Chevy HD body to paint up. The stock purple body is showing some wear. :eek:

ChrisHarris
11-04-2004, 02:38 PM
Cool. you will love that lid. It is my favorite now after years of F-150's.

ChrisHarris
11-04-2004, 03:36 PM
Wild idea here!

Sean has a class project going where they are making wind powered cars. I was wondering what it would take to put a sail onto a Pede. You would need a motorized winch to pull in and let out the sail. Steering we have!

What do you think?

Bill
11-04-2004, 09:50 PM
Sounds great. At least it is something I know about, sailing that is.

What are the goals of the project?

The weight of a stock pede will require a large sail area to move it. Would you be lighting the pede up or going for a large sail. What type of sailing rig do you think would work best?
Maybe getting a cheap RC sail boat and using the parts to modify the pede would the easier than making all the parts .

ChrisHarris
11-05-2004, 12:15 AM
Totally in the planning stage right now. I was thinking that even though the pede does weigh a lot with the rear drive disconnected (or even just no pinion) it rolls with a very light tough. I would think that compared with getting a boat moving through the water it wouldn't be so bad. If this happens, it would be gutted as much as possible. Light small tires would be a good thing too but that costs.

I was figuring I would simple try some crude sail rigs to see how much one needed before going to too much trouble setting the whole thing up and finding out it wouldn't move. :rolleyes:

Went to the LHS on the way home tonight and picked the brains of a guy there. He described the type of rig they use on r/c sailboats for pulling in the sail. Sounds pretty simple but it left questions unanswered. he described the servo and arm one would use to pull a relatively small amount of line and how one would feed it to the boom but I never thought about the fact that you want the servo to hold where ever you set it without your having to hold the stick or trigger or wheel (whatever) all the time. Ideally you would tweek your sail position and then not need to touch it agian. I will need more info on that for sure.

Sail design? I was thinking of the standard trangular sail with mast and boom. The mast would be anchored into some sort of aluminum plate for stability. I guess a wooden mast would be lighter tham aluminum rod but I suspect this might well tip over and a dowel might not take the beating...

ronbeck
11-05-2004, 12:23 AM
sounds like you should hit the cralwer forums and read up on the servo winches. but whould one of the losi trucks be a better start? lighter lower to the ground, and i assume it has smaller race tires on it. if you use the losi i could hook you up with my losi street tires. they are 2.2 but the tires are pretty low profile.

good luck and i hope he injoys the build with you;)

peter
:)

ChrisHarris
11-05-2004, 07:08 AM
I thought about winches but you realy need a fast response to trim the sail. The way the boats do it is using a simpel, very powerful sevo with a long solid arm. I jsut don't know what they use to hold it in place...

I thought about the Losi. Heck, I wouldn't need to rebuild the diff, would I? I can toss a Pede together from spare parts though which I can't say about the Losi. Heck, I even have a hacked up tranny case I killed trying to mount a metal motor plate. This would be a perfect place for it!

tommckay
11-05-2004, 08:38 AM
Do Touring car tires have the same hex as the Pede? Hhmmn.

Sounds interesting.

ChrisHarris
11-05-2004, 09:47 AM
I am pretty sure they do NOT have the same hex. Do they even have a hex? They must. I think I tried Losi XXXT wheels and they don't work- especially the front as they have the bearings in the wheels.

the guy at the shop was telling me to use the stiffest tires to avoid loss of power. I don't know if he was thinking in terms of ground drag or flex. If it is flex then the suspension is going to be a real problem. If he is right...

ronbeck
11-05-2004, 11:40 AM
the pede runs a 12mm hex wich is the same as most tcs. i have sized up my mini cooper tires on my tlt. and the tlt and pede can use the same 2.2s. i think it would be sidewall flex, to reduce the chance of a blow over..

yes the losi front wheels ride on a fixed stub axle and the wheels spin around it on dual bearings.