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ChrisHarris
10-15-2004, 07:23 AM
it's raining...

Bill
10-15-2004, 07:37 AM
OK, how about just staying in bed.

tommckay
10-15-2004, 07:38 AM
Another diff to rebuild huh? bummer. Remember which instructions to follow!! :)

Since Jess has a couple passes on a fresh rebuild, make sure he checks the adjustment of it again now that everything should be seated properly.

Oh, it's raining here as well. I wanted to ride my bike too (non-pedal version).

ChrisHarris
10-15-2004, 09:45 AM
I think I stripped out that silly aluminum nut. I should have others- just have to find them.

Tom, I want to get some numbers to you to check your LHS for diff parts. Is your e-mail good on the weekends or are you out of electronic touch on your days off?

tommckay
10-15-2004, 03:41 PM
Nah, I check my e-mail regular. This weekend I'll be gone until early Sunday afternoon though. Get me the numbers and I can check them for you Sunday and let you know if I have them and get home before 3:30pm. Otherwise it would be Monday.

ChrisHarris
10-15-2004, 08:56 PM
I should have been so lucky as to it being the nut. turns out the nut is spinning in it's little plastic holder. Equally worthless but infinitely harder to get out. I have no idea how to do it just yet other than to drill out the end of the screw.

How did I ever let Jess talk me into doing the Losi thing again? I must have been crazy. Senile perhaps. Short term memory loss as to what fun they were to work on.

Bill
10-15-2004, 09:57 PM
Would this be a good place to mention how easy the Stampede is to work on?;)

tommckay
10-15-2004, 11:13 PM
If you got a good pair of thin needle nose or decent Hemostats it can be taken out by pinching the nubs on the nut holder that are supposed to hold it in place in the slots of the outdrive. It will ruin the nut holder, but it needs to be replaced anyway, right?

Man you should have seen the typos before I re-read this! I gotta go to bed. Night.

ChrisHarris
10-16-2004, 07:36 AM
Bill, you are SO on target! :lol:

I will try grabbing the holder. Is the idea that that will squeeze the nut and stop it spinning in the holder? Certainly worth a try.

Other than that, I plan to slap a different motor into the Pede (I took out the brushless for this current futility :rolleyes: and will NOT be rewiring it any time soon, thank you very much!

I did get a bunch of C2 motors in this deal and one will get plopped into the Pede for good old fashioned fun. Maybe I will put a matched C2 into Sean's truck as well and then two of us can have equal fun!

Bill
10-17-2004, 08:50 AM
Chris...... Has the check arrived? Saturday did.

ChrisHarris
10-17-2004, 12:16 PM
:lol: No Bill, it did not. And I sent the guy a message to which he has not responded. The truck is already to go and i sit and wait...

I finally got the diff apart ont he XXT though! Had to drill the head off the bolt. :rolleyes: We have the technology. Now I need to get the new parts. A good excuse to upgrade to fancy carbide balls though.

Hoefully i will get a chance to play with the trucks today1 Some errands to run first. I did (I think) manage to get Sean onto a better soccer team for next season! I am retiring. bowing out, running with tail tucked firmly between the legs. Pick one.

tommckay
10-17-2004, 02:09 PM
:lol: No more Soccer dad!

ChrisHarris
10-17-2004, 05:24 PM
well, we still have three more weeks of this season and I don't see the wife taking over the soccer thing! I suspect I will now get to go back to being the screaming Dad on the sidelines. YOu know the one? The one the coach wants to kill... ;)

Sean and I did indeed get out with our Pedes today! I put Chameleons into both so they were pretty evenly matched. I think I only had a 15 tooth pinion which made for an over abundance of wheelies. :devil: Awfully tough on the lid! Sean had M2Ks on all four corners and flipped on the pavement almost every turn in this parking lot. I swapped my stocks from the front of mine to his and it was much better! When he put the 7 cell in though it turned a bit lopsided! All was well until he went to unflip me and ripped the rear body mounts off my truck! :eek: We just kept on driving through 5 or 6 packs total. He pretty much killed his Hummer lid but I already knew they were pretty flimsy. Just an excuse to do up another lid if I ever get the desire. We have plenty to run.

tommckay
10-18-2004, 07:22 AM
Sounds like a good day of pede bashing. Wait a minute...... are we actually talking about Stampedes in the Stampede thread??? OMG!! How'd that happen?!?!!:freak:

Bill
10-18-2004, 08:08 AM
What are the odds?

eviltone
10-18-2004, 11:05 AM
more stampede action, in the STAMPEDE forum, of all places...

i took my stampede out YESTERDAY to the track to race it INSTEAD of my "wonderous" T4 POS.... i actually did MUCH better with the stampede than i've ever done with mt T4. Kinda odd...
On another stampede related note - i think i FINALLY convinced my wife to run the stampede! i bought her one last year, and never assembled it (it was one of the last KITS). she's going to run MY stampede INDOORS on the carpet with FOAMS! She'll run with the novice class on the oval! it should be lotsa fun watching her take the thing around!

-TOne

tommckay
10-18-2004, 03:34 PM
T4... Shoulda got a Losi!! :lol: j/k

Probably one of the reasons you did better is because you thought you wouldn't be as competitive with it so you relaxed and just drove & did not let those little things annoy you. With the T4 your expectations were probably much higher, so when something happened it tensed you up & therefore you over drove it.

Bill
10-18-2004, 09:03 PM
I see the same thing Tom when I fly. It is very easy to begin over flying the wing and then your troubles start.

ChrisHarris
10-19-2004, 08:21 AM
Tone-
Were you running it with the standard stadium truck tires you would run at your track? I always figured I was adding more trouble to my lousy driving by runnign the M2K's against everybodyelse's step pins. It is looking more and more likely that RC Excitement will be reopening this winter and Jesse is dying to run his XXX4. I figure I will need something to run and the Pede takes much less mainteance than my XXXT. :rolleyes: I will have to find out what the surface is though as it will no doubt be tire specific.

mattyk6
10-19-2004, 12:36 PM
In our stampede class, we have to run the stock chevron style tires. You just slip and slide all over the place. Since this last weekend was the last race of the summer, we put on step-pins. HOLY COW!!! The Stampede can actually handle good!

eviltone
10-19-2004, 12:44 PM
Tone-
Were you running it with the standard stadium truck tires you would run at your track? I always figured I was adding more trouble to my lousy driving by runnign the M2K's against everybodyelse's step pins. It is looking more and more likely that RC Excitement will be reopening this winter and Jesse is dying to run his XXX4. I figure I will need something to run and the Pede takes much less mainteance than my XXXT. :rolleyes: I will have to find out what the surface is though as it will no doubt be tire specific.
heh.. i KNEW that someone would ask.... i ran stadium truck tires. proline edge's up front, and proline step pins or bow-ties in the rear. you also have to do some extensive work to the suspension, and dremel the chassis to get that thing as light as possible. i actually made the a-main. it was sooo easy to drive! I didnt have to fight it around the turns, nor did it jump like dookie. it just overall was a great handling machine. it was a lot slower than a lot of the other cars, but it was definately smoother. i'll give you my shock setup as soon as i can figure it out!
i also recommend the NITRO RUSTLER front shock tower (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJG34&P=7)
for stiffness. it does requite a litttle dremel work, but its WELL worth it!
Also, on the rear, i run Nitro 4-tec REAR hub carriers (1.5* ones) (http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJK19&P=7) and you DO need to shim them to your drive shafts, as well as to the arm. the 1.5* really helps out though....

-Tone

ChrisHarris
10-19-2004, 01:14 PM
Cool!

I already have the aluminum tower as I got tired of replacing the silly plastic ones. I have widened mine but haven't gone into too much lightening.

I can see how it would be slower but quicker! I guess it depends in part on the course. Our old track had wicked tight corners and the stadium trucks and buggies had a big advantage with their turning radius. It might have also just been they were running the corrent tires.:rolleyes:

Regardless of what you drive, it is the driver that matters.

When Sean and I were out the other day i found that without a drivers stand I was really unable to judge the distance of the truck at the far end of the lot. I was trying to drive it around a center island and found myself very unsure of where the truck was w/ relationship to the dreaded curb! Pratice, practice, practice...

ChrisHarris
10-19-2004, 07:49 PM
This gets better and better.

The guy buying Jess's Clod was going to send the bucks last week. On Monday he finally told me he had not sent the money because of car problems... It would go out Tuesday!!!! He keeps asking what is included and I list it all out. He then asks if something else is included...

Got home tonight and there is a request for me to overnight it. He says he "sent" me an extra $20 to do that. (today is Tuesday so that seemed good). I asked for a zip code so I could check the cost. He responds with the zip saying he WILL send the money and he really wants the truck for the weekend. I explained that in theory he had already sent it... And that if he has not, unless he is on the west coast AND he overnights it, post offices are closed and he can't get it out until tomorrow which means I can't get it before Thursday which means I can't ship it before Friday which means he ain't getting the truck for the weekend...

Why do I think this truck will be on eBay next week? As in he ain't coming through... :mad:

tommckay
10-19-2004, 08:47 PM
heh-heh, don't ya just love the way some people do business!

BTW, When I race the pede (or a friend races it) I always put racing tires on it. Used to be edges in front & holeshots in the rear.

ChrisHarris
10-20-2004, 07:29 AM
Yeah, he bailed...

His PM said someting like "if you are going to be that way..." I sent him a nasty gram. he says he will buy another guys e-maxx. With a name like CustomClodz I somehow doubt that. What a loser. It will find a good home.

tommckay
10-20-2004, 02:41 PM
I explained that in theory he had already sent it... And that if he has not, unless he is on the west coast AND he overnights it, post offices are closed and he can't get it out until tomorrow which means I can't get it before Thursday which means I can't ship it before Friday which means he ain't getting the truck for the weekend...
Ya know, when I read the above little diddy, I thought "Well! If you're going to be that way about it, I'd buy from someone else!" :lol:

Sounds like he was trying to play on some emotions & get you to ship before the money arrived. Amazing how some people will fall for that.

ChrisHarris
10-20-2004, 04:03 PM
I didn't fall off the turnip truck yesterday! It was last week, at least.:rolleyes:

It just stinks that I have to go through all that stuff again. I should just put it up on eBay. I just hate that hassle as well. I would be very surprised if I didn't net more money though.

Came home from work yesterday and both guys had had their Losis out in the yard. Pretty cute pair as both trucks are largely yellow! They didn't even break anything!:thumbsup:

Bill
10-20-2004, 07:54 PM
Maybe it is time to start Buy Pal. I'll act as a third party where buyers send me the money and sellers send me the stuff and when both match each others expectations I'll send the items/money to the respective people. All for a 10% cut.Go ahead and use the idea, I don't have the time.

ChrisHarris
10-20-2004, 08:35 PM
Actually, Paypal is just about that service. No, they don't hold onto everything but if you buy something with Paypal and you aren't happy or it doesn't show, they can take the money back. That is why I prefer to use it, both for sales and buys...

Oops gotta go watch the ball game. I can't beleive these bloody Red Sox have cost me so much sleep.

tommckay
10-21-2004, 07:58 AM
Not always true Chris. I just had a deal go bad from E-Bay in August where I paid the guy and he never shipped & ended up not responding to my E-mails. I even called him and he hung up on me, then left his phone off the hook and had his # changed the next day. I went to PayPal, he wouldn't respond to them either. I got an E-Mail from them basically saying:

"We agree with you and would refund your money, but his PayPal account has no money so we can't. Sorry for your luck, file a complaint with E-bay and apply for their loss recovery."

So if you withdraw the money out of your PayPal account and keep a $0 balance people can't take their money back from you. At least that's what paypal basically told me. I always thought they would chargeback the seller's credit card or bank account associated with the PayPal account, but evidently not unless this guy had a maxed out CC and no money in his bank account. I guess that could be, but that isn't how PayPal worded it.

This guy gave me my first ever negative feedback on E-Bay within 24hrs after I rightfully left some for him. Claimed he refunded the money to "her"....... Scott Pendergraft out in Rocklin CA, He doesn't know it, but I haven't forgotten!

I did get my money back though. Funny how that works, after getting the reply from PayPal I went ahead and initiated a claim thru E-Bay fraud protection & opened a case with Square Trade (a useless action unless the seller is registered with them). Going thru the steps with E-Bay and making sure I followed all guidelines to a "T", the instructions said that if I had paid via Credit card (which I had) that I must first call my credit card company and see if they will charge it back first. I paid with a Capital One Gold Master Card so I knew they would charge back but I was concerned because the charge back would be to PayPal & I didn't want to screw up my account there. So I called PayPal first and told them what was going on, they lady at their customer service said "well if that's what you're supposed to do, go ahead." So I asked what would happen to my account & she said "nothing, we will just try to get our money back from the seller"....???? I thought it would have made more sense to just give me my money back and do that to begin with, wouldn't it? But, oh well. I called Capital One and they immediately charged it back to PayPal. Another neat thing then happened, I got a E-mail from PayPal telling me my account was under investigation because I had a chargeback from my credit card company & gave me a complaint number. I was like, WTF?? I e-mailed back and explained what happened & gave them my original complaint# so they could compare. 2 days later case was closed.

Oh man, what a rant... :freak:

tommckay
10-21-2004, 08:16 AM
???? Seems you custom clodz guy already has a Clod?? See here ---> http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=92138
He is offering it as a trade for a Revo.

ChrisHarris
10-21-2004, 10:44 AM
yeah, that's the same Revo the guy offered me for my clod. When I asked for details he never got back to me. I figure the two of them deserve each other!:p

You have to figure that with a name like cuztomclodz he would have at least one kicking around. Beach chassises are real sweet too!

ChrisHarris
10-23-2004, 08:13 AM
Keeps getting better. found a somewhat local kid who wanted jess's clod. I am already to dive it over to him tomororw to save shipping (he is about an hour away). Now he comments that if the other truck that he tried to buy before it was destroyed by USPS comes then he wont need mine.

This time I politely explained that if there were caveates to the deal ithey should be stated at the start. We shall see what happens on this one. I think i know the family from the track and I would love them to hav ethe truck but...

We were out at a sporting goods place last night and Sean was dying for a BMX bike to bang around on. I have always made it clear that I thought they were lame for any REAL riding. He wants it for around the neighborhood. Happens that it costs just about what the XXT sport is maybe worth. I think I will ask him to choose. he would certainly get more use out of the bike!

Check ou that thread in this forum about traxxes buggy noise. interesting one.

tommckay
10-23-2004, 09:10 PM
Copy cat huh? you told me to go there! Besides smoejoe even mentioned me there!

ChrisHarris
10-24-2004, 06:43 AM
You all thought I was talking about the Red Sox, werent you? Well, that was nice as well but I was talking soccer.

My guys finally played liike a team yesterday! We won 4-0. The hapless team we played against, although coming from a town with known power and depth was pretty sad. They have been rained out and cancelled on enough that they clearly didn't have our experience. We have not only played 6 real games but at least as many scrimmages with other teams so they have lots of experience. They just hadn't showed they had learned much until yesterday.

My guys were listening to me and each other. They were playing posiition, they were passing. It almost made this season of frustration all worth it! and the cool part? We get to play the same team again! :devil:

so, Sean did go for the bike instead of the truck. They were out charging around well into the dark last night. I think he made the right choice. So now I have ANOTHER truck to sell. This one may go directly to eBay.

Jess's Clod does seem to be sold but until I see the money...

tommckay
10-24-2004, 01:29 PM
The BMX will provide more excercise as well, that's always good.

ChrisHarris
10-24-2004, 08:18 PM
Sean gets tons of exercise but there always seems energy to burn. He ha spent lots of time on the bike already and loves it. Even Jesse who spent ages trying to convince Sean that a BMX bike was just plain stupid thinks it is cool. Go figure.

And now, on to our regularly scheduled program:

I was thinking today about slamming my pede because I have this AE stadium truck body with no truck. I figured if I could lower it on the oede it would be cool. The trouble though is that with the Pede chassis being so narrow, the ESC HAS to sit on top of it and that blocks the Rusty body mount in the rear. I don't see a way around that without going the Rusty-Pede route. I don't even know if you can directly slap the Pede's front and rear onto one of those chasiss and I hate that steering system anyway!

Any thoughts?

Bill
10-25-2004, 01:33 AM
yeah, where do you find the time?

tommckay
10-25-2004, 08:28 AM
Well, I have my body mounts lowered quite a bit on my 'pede. took the front mount off the shock tower, cut & shaped it, and mounted it to the chassis over the servo. And then cut the rear mount a little (to clear the Spur enclosure), spaced it back a little (about a 1/4 to 3/8") and used the upper screw holes on the mount to the lower screw holes on the shock tower. Worked out nicely.

ChrisHarris
10-25-2004, 08:38 AM
How do I find the time?

first Bill, you live in a part of the country where the houses have basements. Then you put your workroom in the basement. Add a loud radio and a lock on the door. Lock the door, turn up the radio and all the time in the world is at your disposal! Oh, the circuit breakers are also in the basement so they can't shut me down!

While locked in my dungeon, I also FINALLY swapped the motor on my TLT. What a lame design. The aftermarket chassis certainly does not help. To pull the motor you have to drop both axles out fo the way (a couple screws and a ball cup each), pull both battery/electronic trays (four screws each with unsecured nuts and lock washers), remove pinion, remove motor, reverse the process. Then it was raining so I didn't even get to see how it ran. Oh and the fact that Jesse stole my ESC for his buggy. that didn't help either. :rolleyes:

I am trying to work up plans for a winter project to use the TLT axles with a Pede tranny and Pede sliders for a stretched out 1/10th scale thing. Just ideas floating around right now but it should be fun! First priority will be easy access to the motor!:D

ronbeck
10-25-2004, 12:43 PM
if you don't want to make a full custom chassis you can use a electric 4tec diff shimmed. this will let you run sliders without making the switch to a pede tranny. this is what plays_with_toys runs in his custom tlt-10. have one on order from the lhs becouse i love my penguin chassis. but i keep eyeing rusty/pede trannies i have.......
nice to see everyone doing well.

have not run much of anything other then the micro. i tried to get one of the staduim trucks up and running, but my stick packs seem bad.... could storing them in a cold location have damaged the cells???

thanks! ;)
peter
;)

ChrisHarris
10-25-2004, 03:34 PM
I really don't know whether super old can hurt a batt. I know it can drain a regular car batt... You should try cycling them before you get too worried.

I am actually looking forward to building a chassis from scratch. I want more clearance and to do that I would need the longer wheelbase to reduce the angle from the diff output to the axles anyway. I am worried about the gearing though. I guess I could look it up. :rolleyes: The Pede is 1:2.7 or something like that I think. I have no idea what the TLT has or of there is any reduction in the axle diffs for that matter.

I figured that an extra 2" will make the TLT fit onto a Proline Pede body pretty well. It is funny how wide the Pede looks compared to the TLT though. It is almost like a motorcycle in comparison!

ronbeck
10-25-2004, 03:59 PM
i wouldn't worry about gearing. hit one18th.com or rccrawler.com and look for wookie. he has one of the ultimate tlt crawlers. the only down side to the tlt axles is you can only make them soo wide.

good luck i am waiting for some pics ;)

peter

ChrisHarris
10-25-2004, 08:44 PM
I don't think this will be a crawler. I am thinking more about- heck I don't know what I am thinking about actually. . . A roadish basher? Who knows?

I already have a crawler after all. had two but Jess just had to go and do the speed thing :rolleyes: I might even be selling that one to finance this or something.

Bill
10-26-2004, 08:48 AM
I know many people that store standard batts in the freezer. The thinking is that the cold will slow down the chemical reaction inside the battery which will keep them charged (or fresh) for a longer time.

ronbeck
10-26-2004, 10:53 AM
yeah i have heard that(and the grocery store i worked at keep the batts above the frozen juice), but i hear it causes voltage lose though...i keep(i am suposed to keep) all my rc stuff in the garage at the work bench, but it has been getting pretty cold lately.

i don't know if the batts will be a big lose, but oh well it's part of the hobby:)

thanks
;)

and chris just read your sell thread, it takes all kinds dosen't it!??? it sounds like a super sweet deal. i see pakage with less go for more on ebay. did you post it at rcmt.net or rccrawler.com ?? have you run the intellispeed in anything else other then the clod? in my mini cooper the abs brakes stink. think it's becouse the car is so light.

;)

ChrisHarris
10-26-2004, 04:03 PM
Peter,
I agree, I thought that was a screaming deal. I had it listed here, on RCMT and ClodTalk. It is sold so I wont worry about it. Yes, I ran the intellispeed in Pedes and on the TLT. i hated it. That is why it is gone. :p I don't think I ever tried to set up the ABS system but it was always finicky resetting it. I particularly hated the fact that if your batts ran low the truck would run away! Of course it was never running really fast by that point but...

Funny, just the other day I got a message from a guy who just saw the ad on Clodtalk and was all bummed that he had missed it. I mentioned that MY crawler might well be up for sale and sent him a photo. He was sure He couldn't afford it when he saw which truck I was talking about. turns out he doesn't need the electronics which should bring it into his price range! More Photos needed! In any case, I might really clean house here which would be awesome. Selling that second Clod might get me a new iPod!:thumbsup:

tommckay
10-26-2004, 06:33 PM
Does that mean you would have NO clods?

An iPod? I thought those were only for the 20 somethings.

ChrisHarris
10-26-2004, 09:10 PM
No, I would still have my race clod which could easily be converted to anything I want! I plan to make a new chassis for it if work ever lets up but right now it is in pieces.

The sale of Jess's clod has gone through. Well, I have half payment so I feel confident. :rolleyes: But! It gets better! The guy who backed out because I was concerned he wouldn't have it for the weekend actually posted on Clodtalk with pix that he owns the truck! This was quite a while ago. He has known for a week that he wasnt' getting it but didn't take down the shots. I have let people know. :devil:

iPods are cool! I loved mine before it died. I don't give a hoot who they are marketed at, anything that I can stick in my pocket and carry 100 CDs of music or more is great! My car doesn't have a CD player but I have an adapter for the iPod. At my office, I can just plug it into my computer and I have any tunes I want and I can also bring them up to my lab with earphones so I can tune out the white noise of the cleanroom and the drivel of my co-workers!

Bill
10-27-2004, 08:34 PM
I tend to take a different view of the "personal listening devise" trend. They are dangerous. I can't count the number of times I've come around one of these blind corners and right onto some hiker or bike rider with one of them on and they have no clue that I'm there.

They also let the user hide from life. Everytime I meet one of these kids that can't live without one of them plugged into their head they tend to be very withdrawn and unwilling to join in.

So there.......