Tom, I sent some time reading the thread in the Chit Chat section last night. Nice job. I like your level head.

Chris, a brushless in that xxx4 would be real cool! That's the car I wanted to put one in. And good size jumps yet? We had one on the track last year that was 3ft tall and launched you about 7ft up and out 15-20ft depending on throttle... The car flies real good & with proper throttle input, real controllable!

Bill, You mean the Political one? Thanks, I had forgotten about that. Too much negativity this political season, I'm now trying to tune it out, but its only marginally working. I was glad I finally got my point across, but I doubt it changed any minds. I do believe there is decietfulness on both sides and it kind of disgusts me. Not to mention I think it is embarassing to our country as a whole.

Between you and, I think his name was Sean, those guys did not have a chance. Not that it was a compatistion but they just would not get it. I agree, way to much negitive spin / information being used this year. But based on the lists being used towards the end of the thread there may not be much positive info out there to use.

Anyway, I liked your way of talking to them. Trying to inform and explain without taking it to a personal level. All you were saying is "Think for yourself and look at both sides".

Good reading...........

I was walking fine yesterday! Just didn't want to sit on a bike seat. :p. I did ride in today though! I wasn't what I would call fast. The legs aren't quite recovered.

We will try the brushless. Just not until he gets used to it. Right now, with the motor wires the way they are, he can't get the body on. There is no room under that slammed hood! I will rewire and move them around to make it fit. Might have to hardwire it and lose the Powerpoles. Those are OK in a Pede but there isn't the room in that one.

I hope he isn't doing to much soaring around without a lid on it. I like the protection!:thumbsup:

The car does take short motor wires! Usual layoit from front to back is Servo, Reciever, Motor, ESC. But that's not a huge spot for an ESC, The TEKIN I ran it it fit perfect.

Right now he has an Inteelipeak 8T reversing which is not tiny. It fits but... I placed it with the wires to the outside but I am thinking of reversing it so the wires are up against the belt housing. That plus runnign the wires from the motor down from the endbell rather than the usual up should help a lot.

Got to see it move some last night. Very quick! And that is with a Chameleon. Can't wait to drip a hot motor in and do a speed run. With a Novak 5800? Insane!

More like :eek:

XXX$ + 5800 = trip to hobby shop for new parts.

Well, Jess and I took my brushless Pede and the new XXX4 out to the local lot.

Now Jess is replacing the shock tower. :rolleyes: 6 out of 7 collisions cause the Pede to flip with Jess laughing hysterically. The last one was head-on. We weren't even trying to hit each other but there is an attraction I guess. So, Tom, thank you for the spare front shock tower!

The interesting (scary) thing was that his XXX4 with a Chameleon (well tuned..) is exactly the same speed as the brushless Pede on 6 cells! And it corners way way better! Jess was absolutely unable to roll his! It doesn't do as good wheelies though! And that was with my slipper way way loose. Jess will no doubt slap something nastier in his buggy just to see how stupid he can make my Pede look!

At least it was just a shock tower and you have the part already!

Indeed!

We put it back together and tossed in Jess's Kobal! It was way past dark and we only had the street (with the parked cars) to play on. He quickly decided that he would wait! He was having trouble controlling it it was so quick! I will just have to put the 7 cell into the Pede!

:devil: Sounds like your havin fun with it, that's a good thing!

So far. I think Jess is thrilled but if/when he goes through all the spare parts and we have to wait to order things up he might see things differently. He knows it isn't a bashing car. The fact that he chose not to drive it last night is a good sign of maturity towards the danger!

Hey, which body did that have on it? We want to get a new one as those McKay racing team stickers just don't cut it out here! ;-) (and where do you get custom stickers anyway?)

That is the stock XXX4 body. They make 2 versions, the one like that one and one for the G+, both are made to fit.

The stickers were cut by Stunner Graphics (A local guy), He's not doing R/C size stuff but for a chosen few, but there are alot of guys doing it these days.

I don't think he will ever break the front arms, they are custom cut 1 of a kind units made by RC product designs & the doubled up rear shock towers make for quite the sturdy structure!

OK, we will find something else to break! there ae elots of parts there. Any chance of a delrin front tower? We liked the rear one you included.

The delrin rear shock tower is actually too soft & flexible so I removed it because it caused issues with camber & shock angle. I think its made of something other than Delrin! it is much softer than the front arms which I am sure are Delrin. I threw it in because it works and can be used in a pinch. There is a local guy that was making front towers in black delrin, but he doesn't use them on his anymore and just uses the G+ front & rear tower. I would suggest going that route, I was if I had kept it.

Well, that G+ tower seemed prety brittle! :p I can definitely see how stiffness really matters on that sort of buggy as compared with a Pede where you have so much slop just from the tires that those details become muddy

The tower I had on it when you got it I believe was graphite, but wasn't the new style G+ tower. The G+ tower is thin and looks to be cut out of a carbonfiber sheet, and I've seen them take some pretty brutal hits and not break.

Glad to hear you're having fun with it, makes me miss it in a way. But I got a new tire for the rear of my motorcycle with the money so it's good. I'm safer by not riding on my bald rear tire & Jess is enjoying something I enjoyed and moved on from.

What I won't miss is the Motor maintenance it took to keep the 10 turns running in tip-top condition, Turning comms & replacing brushes every 3-4 runs.... Blech! I can get 8 runs out of the 12+ turn motors in my truck before I need to tear them down. And even then they usually don't need brushes. If I could have afforded a brushless system I probably would have kept it for at least another year just so I could be stupid fast this winter racing season!

Well, when we order up a lid for it, we might have to pick up that G+ tower just to be on the safe side.

I can't ever see Jesse running a 10 turn unless he gets back into racing and even then, the skill level to warrant that kind of power is not there yet. And if he gets that good, he can run the 5800. See what a nice Dad I am?

Power! Arghh, argh, aarrgghh!!!!!

Nice daddy, nice daddy! can I have more speed???:p

Boy, I go away for a couple of days and this thread turns into an RC site. Now I know who has caused the problem. ME.

I could always start asking dumb questions again.

:wave:

We missed ya Bill! We really did. I hope you weren't working. That would be a bad precident to set this late in your season.

Well, got lots of wrench time on jess's Clod. I think I have it about 80% done. It will be a way better truck than it was when he was running it.

:rolleyes: i am just grabbing parts from whatever truck was there so it will take a while to get any of the others going. I just didn't want to delay getting this one going. Jess has been less that helpful... he is big with the Thank You's but doesn't seem to want to wrench much. Go figure. he knows I want it out to recoup my money. Smart kid. Actualy, I just got back from Sean's game (we lost :cry: ) and I haven't looked. He MIGHT have installe dthe motors and centered the servo saver. Or not.

I would use the 5800, but the wires are waaaay to long. tom, what are those red cap thingys? we thought that they were 4-40 caps, but they are too big.

The red caps are the inner Hinge pin support/bushings for the inside pin on the rear of the front and the front of the rear suspension arms. Best to look at the manual to see what I mean...... :freak:

Hey Bill! :)

Hi Guys,

Worked a little, stopped by the and saw two doctors (annual stuff, nothing serious), did dinner with Mom (bday), and had a night alone with the wife ;) before dropping her off at the airport for her trip up north.

I did pick up some mags on ATV's and RC Flying. Trying to build up some base knowladge on those subjects.

It's nice having the Clod Killer join us.

The wind is staring to shift into the fall mode and that means better flying opportunities.

Have a good one.

I wish our fall & winter was more like yours....

Oh, I love our falls here when it isn't raining. Which it usually isn't. This weekend has been a great example: 75-80, bright blue skies, no wind. I could take another few months of this but I know what the winters will hold. I was out looking at snow blowers today!

YOU USED THE "S" WORD!!!! 20.. no, 30 lashes with a wet noodle for you buddy boy! How dare you! Summer is just barely over and you're talking "S".

Jeez.

Oh, I love our falls here when it isn't raining. Which it usually isn't. This weekend has been a great example: 75-80, bright blue skies, no wind. I could take another few months of this but I know what the winters will hold. I was out looking at snow blowers today!Wow, what a coincidence..... i was out today with my pops and my bro lookin at snowblowers as well.... $770 for a decent one, i guess my bro is gonna get a few shovels instead, i KNOW pops wont spring for that large of a purchase... supposedly, this winter is gonna be like mega-blizzard time, just like the good ol' days when i was a kid... 2+ feet of snow, and lotsa fun! god, i feel like i am 8 all over again gettin all excited about the snow!

oh yah, Tom... guess what..... i just said the "S" word...

SNOW!!!!

-Tone

About every 35 years or so the island will get cold enough to have ice form. I remember in 1990 I was driving into Two Harbors early one morning and noticed one of the puddles on the road was iced over. When I got to town I mentioned it to the Harbor Master (he had grown up on the island) that I had ice on the road in Cherry. Before 10 oclock about 1/2 the Two Harbors population had come over to look at this 3' wide puddle.

We're a simple folk.

About every 35 years or so the island will get cold enough to have ice form. I remember in 1990 I was driving into Two Harbors early one morning and noticed one of the puddles on the road was iced over. When I got to town I mentioned it to the Harbor Master (he had grown up on the island) that I had ice on the road in Cherry. Before 10 oclock about 1/2 the Two Harbors population had come over to look at this 3' wide puddle.

We're a simple folk.
HAHAHAHHAHA! that is the BEST true story i've heard in a LONG time! thats kinda the way it is when WE here see COWS and stuff......

-Tone

Wow, what a coincidence..... i was out today with my pops and my bro lookin at snowblowers as well.... $770 for a decent one, i guess my bro is gonna get a few shovels instead, i KNOW pops wont spring for that large of a purchase... supposedly, this winter is gonna be like mega-blizzard time, just like the good ol' days when i was a kid... 2+ feet of snow, and lotsa fun! god, i feel like i am 8 all over again gettin all excited about the snow!

oh yah, Tom... guess what..... i just said the "S" word...

SNOW!!!!

-Tone
Yeah well, 40 lashes for you! No "S" until December 1 & then it needs to leave on Feb 1. 2 months of it is all we need. I have to shovel the stuff myself. Yuck. I hate that.

Before 10 oclock about 1/2 the Two Harbors population had come over to look at this 3' wide puddle.

We're a simple folk.
:D Yeah, I bet.

Little Girl: "Daddy, what's that?"
Father: "Why that's naturally formed ice honey."
Little Girl: "Wow!"
Old Man: "I remember back in 19 hunnert and 69 we had a puddle up on the other ridge on the road to the old Smith farm that froze solid as a rock. Yessir, it was sure chilly that day."
Little Girl: "Cool!"

Oh, I love our falls here when it isn't raining. Which it usually isn't. This weekend has been a great example: 75-80, bright blue skies, no wind. I could take another few months of this but I know what the winters will hold. I was out looking at **** blowers today!
I do have to admit we have been having some great weather around here as well, I've been loving it! A little cool in the morning, but the afternoon trade off is worth it!

Well, around here people freak so bad when it does begin to s*** that you can't find a blower within a couple hundred miles. I figure getting one and stuffing it away in the garage is the wise way to go.

I actually bought one last winter and then it didn't snow for a couple months. When it did finally snow the darn thing broke after a couple minutes of use. And, of course, I had contracted with a neighbor to get it off her driveway. That meant that not only did I shovel my walk and drive but I did her's as well. I was not amused. After trying for a week to get this new machine fixed, I returned it. I had bought a low end machine because that was all that was left. Not this time.

And, now onto r/c stuff! Got Jess's clod up and running. Nice rig! Took some shots this morning and will try to get Q to put them all on one page to post to a variety of sites. It should sell. He says, typing with fingers crossed- which is no easy thing to do!:)

Just got the latest issue of r/c drover magazine. I knew tha tthere was an article on Monster Jam 5 so I was psyched. fun to reminisce but even more fun when i found a shot of my trucks! not a great shot- just my pit area with mmy clod int he front and Pede in the back. both bodyless. the caption was about how you had all sorts of homebuilt trucks, ranging from hacksawed slabs of aluminum (that would be me!) to tubers. The other shot of the pair was a nice tubular frame job. I will take whatever they offer! no applause, just throw money.

So you're the Hacksawed slab of Aluminum (Haven't seen the issue)? I thought your truck looked better than that, I think I would be slightly offended at that. Hacksawed... Couldn't they see the intricate fileing?? :) I don't know, just the word "hacksawed" makes your truck sound cheap, Hillbillyish, and sub-par. Can I be slightly offended for you?

So you're the Hacksawed slab of Aluminum (Haven't seen the issue)? I thought your truck looked better than that, I think I would be slightly offended at that. Hacksawed... Couldn't they see the intricate fileing?? :) I don't know, just the word "hacksawed" makes your truck sound cheap, Hillbillyish, and sub-par. Can I be slightly offended for you?
YA What he said.....:wave:

i take hillbillish as a complament;)
i would be hoping the comments were ment as to show not everyone needs a $$5k clod to run and have fun. what isssue is it in?

rc wise i raced my micro(didn't finsh both heats...), scott and i ran his monster tlt in the freshly rearranged garden! got it all dirty and a lot of fun.

weather wise we had the return of the pnw liquid sunshine! the miniture maples in the neighbor hood finally turned a nice green, but they are now changing to red/brown/orange.... but we have been have some clear days this week(fingers crossed).

been nice reading all the refreshing activity here again.

peter
:)

That was a paraphrase guys. he was talking more about the range of chassis designs from hand cut with hacksaws and files to carefully machined ones to tubers. Mine was not singled out as any of the above it was my choice to put it in the first catagory. The other photo was of a nice tube framed job so I was thinking opposite ends of the spectrum. I was not in the least offended. There were A LOT of trucks with hand built chassis and it was mine that ended in the mag!:cool:

And frankly, I am much prouder of my other Clod's chassis. Just think it looks much better The first one was definitely just that: a first effort. A damn fast first effort I must add. Once I get the links all redone with the heavy duty stuff I took off of Jess's Clod it should be fast and strong.

Jess continues to get a kick out of the XXX4 Tom. He had it out the other afternoon to show a friend. A bunch of kids came by on bikes and one challenged Jess to a race. :p Needless to say it was short.

Ok Chris, that's different then, thanks for clarifying. You do do better work than "Hacksawed" even on a 1st effort! I'll relax now and erase the word document containing a scathing letter to the editor! :p j/k

Funny how kids on bikes think they can beat a hobby level R/C! I'm sure the race was VERY short, as in Jess was done before the kid got 3 revolutions on the pedals! :lol: I had the same opportunity in front of my house last year when I was testing a new motor in the 'pede. Raced them on bikes then on foot. The battery went down but still beat them with 1/2 power. They were bummed, I was smirking!

Bummer..... Can you get emails back?

I was so upset after reading that the mag had bad mouthed Chris I wrote a real bad nasty gram. But when I went to send it off to RC Drover mag I couldn't find it on the net so I sent it to every mag I could find.

Hope you don't mind Chris but I used your name. I also gave them your email address so if they are really upset and write you, you can explain the misunderstanding.

No problem. This is an alias anyway. ;)

An Alias? Let's see... MA area.... :rolleyes: Hhmmnnn... Joey B?

Actually, I am in Georgia. Or is it Maine? One of those. You will never find me! :cool:

Joey B.?

Just got an e-mail from an old buddy I had goten into r/c. he has since moved away and lost interest. he offered me his pair of XXXT trucks (one a RTR, the other, I think, a Matt Francis), both with radios, ESCs, etc. Chargers, batts- whatever he has laying around for...$150. I accepted! I figure if Jess has any plans of getting back into racing then it makes sense for me to pop back in as well. Especially if I can get in at that price. I will have to see what all he has but it might mean selling some off to come out at zero investment!

This guy has always done good for me. I have so much mtb equipment that he no longer needed I can't even keep track. He buys high, sells low. Gotta love friends like that.:dude:

Joey Buttafuco!

Let me know if ya got anything extra there Chris!

I will, for sure. Looks like I may be heading over to my friends some time this weekend. Should be quite the haul. Never know what he has stowed away. I doubt he has any motors worth using but I suspect the 5800 in a XXXT might give Jess more than a run for his money! :devil:

Brushless is the future!

What did you say? I can't hear any of you.... It's been 2 days! I must be missing something!!