I thought us gas guys should have a place to gossip and tell lies.

I plan on racing at Toledo a lot and can't seem to find out much on their forum so maybe we could use this thread. The same for the DRCCC, and any other tracks.

So to start:

I keep looking at the tracks in Europe, why the heck can't we have a track like that around here in Southeast Michigan. I can't figure out where they get that kind of money. Wouldn't it be nice to have a permanent track we could use during the week, Wednesday night racing would be a blast!

Is it really going to rain and spoil our weekend again. I plan my weekend trips for work around our racing and it really ticks me off when we can't race.

Rich, What kind of car are you getting? Bobby is running Kyosho both 1/8 and 1/10. I am running Serpent in 1/8 and Associated in 1/10. Of course with JACO tires, SMC batteries and Putnam motors in our starter boxes.

Barry,
Sounds like you are racing gas this summer, that's good, I need more old guys to hang out with.

Ted

I thought us gas guys should have a place to gossip and tell lies.

I plan on racing at Toledo a lot and can't seem to find out much on their forum so maybe we could use this thread. The same for the DRCCC, and any other tracks.

So to start:

I keep looking at the tracks in Europe, why the heck can't we have a track like that around here in Southeast Michigan. I can't figure out where they get that kind of money. Wouldn't it be nice to have a permanent track we could use during the week, Wednesday night racing would be a blast!

Is it really going to rain and spoil our weekend again. I plan my weekend trips for work around our racing and it really ticks me off when we can't race.

Rich, What kind of car are you getting? Bobby is running Kyosho both 1/8 and 1/10. I am running Serpent in 1/8 and Associated in 1/10. Of course with JACO tires, SMC batteries and Putnam motors in our starter boxes.

Barry,
Sounds like you are racing gas this summer, that's good, I need more old guys to hang out with.

TedI wished I had the answers to those questions.
Maybe I should get an 1/8 scale and hang out with the old guys!!Lol.

I keep looking at the tracks in Europe, why the heck can't we have a track like that around here in Southeast Michigan. I can't figure out where they get that kind of money. Wouldn't it be nice to have a permanent track we could use during the week, Wednesday night racing would be a blast!


Yeah, Jeff and I want to open a European style track. But, the best location would be around the 14/I-96/I-275 area and land in that area is not very cheap.

So, I will be at Toledo the weekends I am not at the Lazer points races.


Rich, What kind of car are you getting?


I have a Kyosho FW-05r on the way. I was thinking of getting the MTX-3 since I've ran the MTX-2 the last 3 years, but I wanted to try something new. And, when I drove other folks' Kyosho cars last year I really liked the way they felt.

This is going to be an expensive summer for me with this new car. I have to get spare parts, a different header, pipe... ugh!

I hope my car arrives soon.

Stupid rain.

-Rich

Anyone have contact info for Dennis Richey? I want to order and try some GQ tires.

-Rich

Hey Ted, how ya been ? Yea I bought a new motor for my NTC3 broke it in
and ran it a couple of weeks ago at DRCCC. I guess my first love is still electric and I plan on doing that as much as possible but gas is sooooo cool
that I want to do that also. I think a permanent track is a great idea but
somehow it never gets past the talking stage. Toledo seems to be the only answer. Talk to you later.....

Rich, you might try and get "Ray J's" email address. I think he has Dennis's
phone number. (I think !?)

Ted,

Interesting you mentioned that. If you are interested in building a permanent track, please join me in my search. I'm right with you in your desire to have a track, so what I propose is we develope a planning committee that meets regularily. The DRCCC has been in existence for 33 years, its about time we build a track. I am working on a proposal to submit to various parks and recreation departments in the area for a permanent site build. I have surveyed a park last weekend that would seem feasible, but I need more suggestions on locations. Parks are not the only other option either, parking lots inside malls, and within industrial locations such as within GM tech center are also options.

We can most likely locate, design a permanent track to build, but funding it is going to be a good portion of it. The work to accomplish this goal is going to be emmense. The first part is selecting the location of course. Cost will depend on the location. If we are lucky, the host city/county will help with funding. The rest will have to be made by sponsors and private donations or loans. I've been researching how they did it in cincinnati, and I hope to submit along with our proposal technical data on the economic impact of the worlds within the cincinnati area. Aparantly they have data that says total economic impact of 1/10th worlds was 2million, and the 8th Worlds was almost double that. Granted, even if we build a track capable of hosting a worlds event we can't host one every year, but it is a goal i had in mind.

In the mean time, its important to maintain a our presense by hosting events to build up membership. The planning work will take time away from daily organizational/maintence of this year's season, so the more people we have to help, the more we can focus on the big picture. If i see you at the track, hopefully this sunday i'm sure we can talk further about it.

Tom Kelley

DRCCC

Contact Joe Dumars from the Pistons. Last I heard he wanted to open up a R/C track/enterntainment center.

-Rich

Thanks Rich, I just noticed you mentioning your thoughts about a track to build. In the future hopefully we can work together on making it happen.

Funny you mentioned the pistons, we got them to give us some tickets to pistons games for our charity race last year. Maybe they'll remember.

No prob. The track for me is a wish and probably won't come to fruition unless I win the lottery. The only outdoor, onroad track I will be opening will be in my backyard once I move to a house with enough land. :)

I have thought about this track deal a lot, the cost of land and paving would be almost impossibe for someone trying to make money. It will take free land or something like that to make it work. I assume the track in Cincinnati has some kind of deal with the city since it is in a city park.

As Tom says we need to keep trying to find a way to get the land. I keep looking at out of business parking lots and places like that, you never know they might let us set up shop. Actually finding some rich guy might not be out of the question. They have a couple of tracks in Miami that are privately owned by guys and they let their his buds come over to play. If we were in Charlotte I bet we could get a couple of rich Nextel Cup drivers and/or owners to give us a spot to race. The Joe Dumars thing might actually work.

What we need is some kind of slimy political guy to tell us how.............let's see, who would that be?

I have thought about this track deal a lot, the cost of land and paving would be almost impossibe for someone trying to make money.

What we need is some kind of slimy political guy to tell us how.............let's see, who would that be?
Well, we're not in it to make money, thats a non profit club for you.

The track in Cincinnati is city owned land. Once the city found out about the worlds, they jumped on board to help out whatever way they could. There are alot of examples that clubs tracks have been financed by public dollars... it would be nice to find a park district like that...

Slimy? Somone once told me to pitch it like this: "RC racing keeps kids away from drugs" Then you'll get all the help in the world. Which to some extent is true when you think about it.

I am pretty sure what Ted meant about "making money" is to 'break even.' :)

That would be a big bonus if the local community would help with the funding llike the Cinci track. However, I've never been to the Cinci track. Are there houses nearby? Most of the parks I know of in this area are near housing communities. And, the chance is high those folks would have a hissy-fit about the noise racing (especially nitro engines) make.

I personally experienced it with the Ann Arbor night race 2 years ago which was held at Pioneer H.S. in Ann Arbor. And, look at the problems that off-road track up near Larry's had. The place got burned down and then shut-down.

And, Riders in Canton had problems with the neighboring houses when they tried to run races in the back parking lot.

So, watching to see how close houses will be is something to look for.

I hope you can find a permanent place and get some funding some how. :)

-Rich

What I meant but "making money" is that a person couldn't come up with a sound business plan to spend the money on an outdoor racing facility. Hence, you have to have help from the local community, or some rich guy that afford to let his money sit under snow for six months a year. I have been thinking the an investment in land might work but my partner in life doesn't see it that way.

As far as the "slimy politician"--it's a joke for peets sake! Again, what I meant was we need somebody who could sell snow to eskimos to help sell the plan to a city.

Rich, the track in Cincinnati would make you sick. It is in a park that has socker fields, baseball, flying field and the race track. The park is very large, the flying field and race track are in the back off to one side. There are houses relatively close but I don't think they would hear anything..........it is very cool.

Now for the good news, the new weather forecast says sunny on Sunday, cold but no rain.

I want to go help the guys in Toledo at their work party tomorrow but I have been gone all week and have a few things I have to get done at home so I can race Sunday. I am going to try though, I feel quilty as hell that I don't get down there to help, it is about an hour and twenty minute drive which sucks too.

New weather forecast:Becoming partly cloudy after some morning rain. Windy at times. High 53F. Winds NW at 20 to 30 mph.

I still plan on showing up at Wal Mart about 8:00, depending on rain, a little later if it is raining a lot.

Does anybody know if Toledo got their track done today? Is their plan to race tomorrow?

Glad to see you active on this board about nitro on-road. I will be running my cars at both Cincinnati and Toledo. I am hoping to see a few 235 4WD 1/10 scales this season. I s any of your group doing that?

Glad to see you active on this board about nitro on-road. I will be running my cars at both Cincinnati and Toledo. I am hoping to see a few 235 4WD 1/10 scales this season. I s any of your group doing that?

Currently we do not have anyone in the DRCCC running this class. I have beein in touch with many individuals who want this to happen. As a matter of fact, today I traded one of my sedan cars for a 1/10 235 car to someone who wants to run (he has 2). Plus he knows 4 other people who want to do it. That way he has a car to race, even if we don't get enough people to show for it, he'll still have a car to run..

Sooooo, it didn't stop raining until well past noon at my house, did Toledo or DRCCC race?

we raced in hamilton(ohio) we started late and the mains were 15 min. but it was a race(finally)

we raced in hamilton(ohio) we started late and the mains were 15 min. but it was a race(finally)
Are you guys racing this weekend (Mothers Day), or could any of us that haven't been able to race practice on Saturday?

Mentor is having a club race saturday.

Paul

Ted, Yes toledo did get the track sealed and set-up. We set it up Sat. I don't know if they ended up racing though. Next weekend is Mother's day then the weekend after that is the MWS race in WI so no racing. The 23rd is the next race.

So, if it isn't raining can we use the track? I just want to run my cars, it's driving me crazy, no racing in over a month!

Hey Ted, I think Ted Hammer said they might open the track on Saturday for a full day of practice. I don't know if that meant spraying the track or not. He said he would post it on the 1/8th site.

Some of us nuts showed up at the DRCCC site early Sunday morning and "prayed" to the RC gods to stop the rain. No friggin' way! We went to Larry's and spent money and dreamed of racing. How friggin' pathetic!!

RayJ

Ya I know the pain, I got up early, started to go to the track, turned around, sat here like some kind of dummy watching the Local Doppler to see if would ever stop raining. Wasted the whole day being mad that I couldn't race.

If anyone talks to Ted Hammer I would be quite happy to help pay for the traction spray.

Ray, you have a message

Ted

Hey guy's,

Is anyone planning on putting togeather a points series this year? like the MORL that Rich put togeather a couple of years ago...

also I just wanted you guys to know that Riders in G.R. is putting on races in front of there store this year, still the same smooth black top, same racers, the only difference is that GLRC has moved over to offroad racing in West Olive...
so if your looking for a place to race, come on over

Tony I posted that question about five weeks ago on the old MORL thread.
I did'nt spark any interest then. Here's a link.
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=16325&page=47&pp=15

Great News!

Toledo is having a practice day this Saturday, May 8th. It would be a good time to renew memberships and sign up to be a new member if you aren't currently a member.

And, the long range weather forecast is sunny and 80 degrees (actually 79). I may go down tonight and sit and stare at the track until Saturday, in other words...I am ready!

mxatv151/Fred - I wish I could run the MORL but this summer I am busier than last summer. If anyone else would like to run it, I have all the contact info (racers) plus info on trophies, etc.

Ted - dang. Would be nice if I had a car to run. Looks like my car is stuck in customs.

The DRCCC is hosting a point series. Classes would most definetly be 1/10th nitro sedan, and 1/8th 4wd. We would like to see more interest in electric, but we have only been out once this year. Its hard to judge that. I'd also like to see if there is anyone interested in running 1/10th 2wd or 4wd.

Rich, would any of the racers in the MORL be interested? If so would you be kind to FWD me the contact information of the racers there?

Yeeeehhaaaaa!!! Practice on Saturday. Damn I feel like a kid on Xmas Eve!! I think there gonna spray too. Hhhmmm I'm thinkin' go Sunday too. I wanna run the wheels off the 1/10th and 1/8th!

Hey guy's. Been a while since i picked up a car radio but, looks like i will be racing 200mm sedan this summer!! Fun, fun, FUN!!
I got a hold of Dennis Richie and looks like he is FINALLY getting his motor's on the market. Plus there is some stuff in the work's but, not sure if i should spill the bean's!

Looks like i will be sporting the new serpent 710 this summer. Should have it this weekend.(hopefully) Novarossi motor ofcourse. I now it will take a few for me to get up to speed, but after my first few race's i will be ready for some big time racing!! Cant wait.

Bobby and Aron still racing????

Dennis

do you guys have a website for your tracks up there? I would like to come up and race on days we aren't racing in cincy. I am looking for a schedule.
thanks in advance
mike lindsay

DRCCC=http://www.myrcworld.net/drccc (http://www.myrcworld.net/drccc)

Toledo=http:/www.oneightracers.com

RayJ- I am planning on Saturday for sure and Bobby wants to go for a little while Sunday, at least as long as his Mother will let him. We have to go to Grandma's house in the afternoon.

Rich- I could bring Bobby's car for you to look at, LOL.

Dennis- Aaron didn't race gas last year, don't know what he is up to this year...Rich? Bobby is running for sure.

Tom - most of the contact info is on paper slips that is about 4" high.

Ted - you are a funny guy! :p

Dennis - Aaron still has his Reflex NT, but he is trying to sell it. He is mainly doing off-road during the summer (like last summer) so we probably won't be seeing him racing any nitro TC.

so what chasis's are you guy's running this year????

Dont forget about the swap Meet at the Gate in Cleveland, Ohio this weekend on the 8th!!!


http://www.clevelandcarpetracing.com/Swap%20Meet%20Flyer.pdf

so what chasis's are you guy's running this year????
Dennis,

Bobby and Josh are running Kyosho
I am still running Associated
Rich is getting a Kyosho
Some of the guys are getting Serpent 710's
RayJ is still running the Mugen, I think.

Don't know much about the Kyosho. Lot's of guys like the new 710 with the adjustable front roll centers and adjustable rear ball diff. I just hope Serpents parts prices for you guys stay reasonable, and the parts are available at the local level. Serpent does have good parts availabilty at the major races.

Me.....I'm stayin' with the MTX-3 for now. It's still just as competitive as all the rest, and the prices on parts and availabilty of parts is pretty good. The car is real durable and easy to drive. The only thing that you'll usually need to have handy is afew sets of front uprights(knuckle arms). That seems the most susceptible for breakage.

sound's like the new car's are a little better on part's breakage and stabilaty than the old one's.
Does Kyosho have a new car? Or is it the v-one-r???

FINALLY..........We finally got a full day of fun, well actually the second, I missed the first day at Wal Mart.

I think RayJ and I have set a record for the most full burned and tires used up in a single day of practice. We both used almost a gallon of fuel and I'd rather not say how many tires.

The Toledo track is a bit slower than in the past, a few more tight turns than normal. They are trying to find a happy medium for both 1/10th and 1/8th. I wasn't thrilled with the layout at first but after a few runs it was fun. The plan is to run this layout until July then try the next one for a while and pick the best one for the Nationals.

There were about twenty guys there, mostly from Michigan. Lots of fun, if you didn't make it you missed a fun day in the sun. The good news is there will be a lot more chances.

Ted

Cool! Glad you finally got to run! How many tires did you go through? :) What tires are you running, anyways? Jaco?

My car arrived finally so I just need to rebuild it, mount an engine, pipe, and electronics, paint a body (one of my complicated paint schemes, of course. LOL!) and I should be good to go racing by September. hah.

-Rich

Rich,

I only ran my 1/8th today, I don't have my JACO 1/8th tires yet. I'm sure if I did I would have had better traction and less wear. Bobby has some for his Kyosho but hasn't run them yet.

Glad you got your car. I think the only hop-up he used were the steel 39t gears. I'll check with him to make sure there isn't anything else you need. Did you get the one with the one-way? I'll also have him send you the set-up he used in Las Vegas.

Sweet! Thanks, Ted. That would be cool. The car came with diffs front and rear. I haven't run a one-way in anything in 4 years and cannot remember the benefits it brings. I did find it online and am wondering if I should get it (at least for the Toledo track)?

Yeah, from what I have read online, the main things folks say are needed for the car are the steel 39T ring-gears, the Kawahara front end conversion, and that is pretty much it.

-Rich

Rich...

The biggest thing is the 39t steel gears. The stock gears will tear up faster then a TC3 plastic diff gear. You will definitely want a one way. It gives you a ton more steering and helps under braking. With a diff, all the car wants to do is push, push, push, especially under braking.

If you have any other questions, e-mail me.. BobboFlacko@aol.com

Thanks, Bobby. I'll also email you. :)

Rich
Front Diff= slow, slow slow......... One way only way to go!

Hey Ted I went down again Sunday. Traction was the same as Saturday. I'm sure once they get afew layers of tire traction and rubber on the track it will really be a blast. I'm getting used to "liking" the new layout, and the track surface really is smoooooth. Can't wait for Racine!!

RayJ

I'm glad you had a good day. I had a blast Saturday, we just couldn't get away yesterday.

I have to "Work" this weekend at the Truck race in Mansfield,Ohio so I will miss the Racine race. I have to go to Charlotte the next week but I am coming home Saturday so I can race Sunday at Toledo.

I might go down to Toledo one afternoon this week, if I can get my kid to go with me.

Hey Ted-when you retire-you better start buying nitro by the 30 gallon barrel-sounds like you'll be livin at the RC track!!! :)

Ray

I'd retire now except I couldn't afford the fuel.