Wow thanks apple and Kevin for the tips.. I'll diffently try those things... Kevin say my drive train is a bit tight how do I lossen it up?

Also what time do you guys start running tomorrow? I am gona be able to make it... I am real excited to try my new car out in a real race.. I think I'll do ok.. What springs and wt oil do I wana start with? Right now I am just set up with the defult book setup.. I know I should be a bit stiffer...

Fred you think those tires will work ok? I was out there yesterday for about 2 packs worth, and the thinner tires seemed to hook up much better.. but is that enough? or do I need new ones?

There's ton's and ton's of tricks to loosen up the drivetrain. Anything from just running the car on a carstand to working on the way the bearings sit in their prospective carriers to cutting the gears and so forth. Since I drive a Tamiya (or did last season) I can't help ya much with setup. I think most ran yellow or white front and purple rear springs. I was using 40# in the front and 60# rear on the EVO. And as far as tires go.... new is what you'll end up needing sooner or later, so why wait??

There's ton's and ton's of tricks to loosen up the drivetrain. Anything from just running the car on a carstand to working on the way the bearings sit in their prospective carriers to cutting the gears and so forth. Since I drive a Tamiya (or did last season) I can't help ya much with setup. I think most ran yellow or white front and purple rear springs. I was using 40# in the front and 60# rear on the EVO. And as far as tires go.... new is what you'll end up needing sooner or later, so why wait??


So pretty much, Just running the car is gona loosen up the drivetrain over some time.. There are just ways to speed that up?? Well I would wait on new tires just because I aint loaded with cash.. after all I did just buy a brand new Factory Team TC3 and Mozda 6 body...

Yep, running it will loosen things up. But..... it'll take someone to show/tell you how to make it really free. (Fred knows the tricks) You're NOT loaded with cash?? Then how'd you manage to pull off buying a NEW FTTC3?? Lemme guess.... you used Associated's new "race now pay later plan"?? LoL!!

Haha no I just used my whole check from last week to buy it... problem is we are off this week cause we have had so many gig's with the band.. Least I am making money there.. For anyone interested, Fatt Lapp will be preforming at Billy's Lounge in East Town on Wealthy ST this saturday night.. check out http://www.billyslounge.com for more information.. Ya'll can come see me do my other hobby..

jesse, you runnin nitro tomarow, or should i say today?

jesse, you runnin nitro tomarow, or should i say today?


i usually run elec on wed because we have a better turnout for it. see ya today lol

i usually run elec on wed because we have a better turnout for it. see ya today lol


Good that means I'll have lot's of people to help me set up my new car.. ;) Anyone know what the weather is spossed to be like tonight? Also what time do you start?

Good that means I'll have lot's of people to help me set up my new car.. ;) Anyone know what the weather is spossed to be like tonight? Also what time do you start?Mike, the weather should be good this evening and the first heat starts at 6:00pm. Heck, with this cool weather I better gear up a little.......!

Where is the great lake challenge being held?
Toledo, Ohio

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He turned 17 today!

So pretty much, Just running the car is gona loosen up the drivetrain over some time.. There are just ways to speed that up?? ...
The biggest source of drag in the TC3 seems to be the gearboxes. The FT kit I built needed a lot of grinding on the inside of the gearbox cases to create enough room for the gears to turn without rubbing the sides of the box. I also had to basically ignore where the instructions said to put shims and just put them where they needed to be to keep a small air gap between the gears. The Factory Team car came with pretty "free" bearings, so you shouldn't have to remove any seals from them. Another thing to check is: does the drivetrain spin more freely if you loosen the wheel nuts? If the axles are shimmed wrong, it can squeeze the bearings when you tighten the wheels. I usually replace the roll pins in the axles with solid music wire, since it doesn't bend as easily when you tighten the wheel nuts. The only drawback is that they fall out when the hex comes off, so make a few spares.

He turned 17 today!

Ah, seventeen. The memories... Hmmmm... or the memories I don't have. For some reason those early days are abit fuzzy to me now..... :freak:

Enjoy it while you can.... :thumbsup:

Ah, seventeen. The memories... Hmmmm... or the memories I don't have. For some reason those early days are abit fuzzy to me now..... :freak:

Enjoy it while you can.... :thumbsup:
Yep, it's hard for me to believe, but I'm more than 3 times Stevens age.
17 X 3 =51, and I'm 53!! Now do you understand why I feel so old???
It's because I AM!!!!

Well, I had out there tonight. I finished my first race of the year. Now I am excited about saturday. Hope to see every one there. :)

We had a great turnout tonight. The rain held off and they were some real good racing tonight. The air was cool but Fred sure was hot on the track tonight. Fred would have run better but I kelp taking him out everytime he came around to lap me. Sorry! Alp-hed had car problems in the main and Tom Heys had his car dialed in tonight.

Nitro Main
Tom Heys 46@10m12s
Alp-hed 45@10m04s
Jerry Collman 39@10m15s
Mr Clean 31@10m03s
Ted Hoven 30@7m54s


Electric Mod Foam Main
Fred Knapp 23@5m11s
Jesse Holman 22@5m04s
Brad Baker 21@5m00s
Tony Whitehead 21@5m05s
Andrew Knapp 21@5m13s
Marty Whitehead 18@5m06s
Jason Dudda 16@5m02s
Mike Howe 8@2m31s

Well tongiht was pretty fun.. Unfortunatly I had some pretty bad luck.. I didn't get there early enough to make the first heat... Then in the 2nd heat my rear wheel nut came off.. Then in the main I had a very fast car, and was driving ok... but the factory team transponder mount fell off.... Damn the book setup lol... I am just gona put a hole in the body... But I did get some good practice in with my new car.. It seemed to be hooking up ok.. And now I need a new radio... AM 75mhz will just not cut it with a sedan... Anyone know anything about the new Futaba 3PM? is it any good?? I like the price... Take a look http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGAG2**&P=0

Thanx for the announcement john. lol, almost as bad as i got at Mogolian BBQ.

Well tongiht was pretty fun.. Unfortunatly I had some pretty bad luck.. I didn't get there early enough to make the first heat... Then in the 2nd heat my rear wheel nut came off.. Then in the main I had a very fast car, and was driving ok... but the factory team transponder mount fell off.... Damn the book setup lol... I am just gona put a hole in the body... But I did get some good practice in with my new car.. It seemed to be hooking up ok.. And now I need a new radio... AM 75mhz will just not cut it with a sedan... Anyone know anything about the new Futaba 3PM? is it any good?? I like the price... Take a look http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXGAG2**&P=0The 3 PM is a very good radio. It has all the end point adjustments, its 3 channel and has 10 model memory. And like you said the price is right.

The 3 PM is a very good radio. It has all the end point adjustments, its 3 channel and has 10 model memory. And like you said the price is right.


Hey thanks a lot Dave.. I really need to get a new radio... What is the advantage between the 3 PM and say like a 3 PJ.. Why is the 3 PM priced so low?

Biggest thing I've found about radios is go with one that feels comfortable in your hands. Airtronics, Futaba, KO all make great radios but they all have abit different feel. It might be a good idea to at least see how they feel to you before spending the moolah on them. Just my $0.02.

Biggest thing I've found about radios is go with one that feels comfortable in your hands. Airtronics, Futaba, KO all make great radios but they all have abit different feel. It might be a good idea to at least see how they feel to you before spending the moolah on them. Just my $0.02.


I totally agree with warpwind i have the ko helios only because it was so comfortable in my hands i dont even use a quarter of the adjustments but it sure does feel good to drive with.

Yeah I know what ya guys mean.. I have always liked the Futaba radio's over JR and others.. in the lower end stuf... I've never really had a good radio tho... I'm sure anything with feel awesome to me lol..

I just want to know if the 3PM is a quality radio.. Useally you get what you pay for.. and that seems pretty cheap... But all the specs seem pretty good.. I know I will like the feel of it.. I am used to the Futaba Magnum Junior right now.. and it's pretty much the same shape.. gota be pretty near the same I would think...

I haven't seen a 3PM (until now), but it looks like the "new & improved" replacement for the 3PDF. I've had one of those for a couple years as a backup (I bought it when my 3PJ was in for service), and haven't had any trouble with it. The guy at D&M Electronics said the old 3PJ put out a stronger signal than the lesser models because it used the aircraft transmitter module tuned to 75MHz. I suppose it's possible that the 3PM doesn't put out as strong a signal as the 3PJ, but just being FM makes it a whole lot better than an AM 75 band system.

I just want to know if the 3PM is a quality radio.. Useally you get what you pay for.. and that seems pretty cheap... But all the specs seem pretty good.. I know I will like the feel of it.. I am used to the Futaba Magnum Junior right now.. and it's pretty much the same shape.. gota be pretty near the same I would think...


yes the radio is a quality radio the 3pm is going to do more than enough for ya and is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay better than the magnum junior and if you like the feel already then i think you know what to do next BUY IT lol the money savings is much more worth having then the next model up. see ya jesse

Jesse,We are going to lazer on the 18th.Going down on the 17th.have a place to stay you and your better half are more then welcome to come if you want and stay the night.Are you going to be at riders this saturday?We will be there.

Hey what do you guys think of the JR XS3 Radio? What would I have to do to use my Hitec 925 servo with it? is the connector much different than futaba?

I have the JR XS3 radio. I like it. It is easy to use and comfortable in my hand. No crystals to buy for it and easy to change channels. I use JR, Hitech, and Futaba servos with mine and haven't had to do anything to the plugs on any of them. Come check mine out before you buy.

Ted

Hey thanks a lot ted.. I'll have to do that man.. Hey yer car was really looking pretty good last night man! Yer gona give then a run for their money this saturday! Yer kids gona run this sat? Should I bring the truck too? hehe...

Well I'm off to Rider's to get some practice in again... So far I have been there every night this week since tuesday.... I have no life... Actually since my g/f left me I have time.. isn't it great? I can like practice and things... I have so much time I dont know what to do with it all.. wow... lol.. Later

Mike

No racing for me this weekend...family's coming to town to see the new house. I'll be out next week though, wearing my new Team X-Ray shirt (hint...hint)!

Denney

Blue Skid

The boys do plan on running tomarrow. Jeff plans on running nitro unless he decides he can't drive it, then he said he would run his truck. I hope my car runs as well tomarrow as it did last night, if I can finish all the races I will be really happy. :D

Hey Andy, i got bodies coming, and funny thing is, they are clear! Can u fix that for me? It might just be one, i dunno yet. Let me know what we can work out.

Hey Andy, i got bodies coming, and funny thing is, they are clear! Can u fix that for me? It might just be one, i dunno yet. Let me know what we can work out.
Steven, I haven't seen Andy here on the forums in quite some time.
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i could just stop buy his house...

Steven, I haven't seen Andy here on the forums in quite some time.
.Ya know, your right. I haven't seen Andy at the track for quite some time.
Whats up with that?

Ya know, your right. I haven't seen Andy at the track for quite some time.
Whats up with that?
Beats me! I heard rumors... as usual, but there was three different versions from three different people and none of them were the same so I didn't pay any attention to any of them!

i saw him in town(caledonia) the other day, so hes still alive!

I saw him in town (Caledonia) the other day, so hes still alive!
Caledonia...... what exactly is a Caledonia anyway???
Somebodys name? An amimal? An indian tribe? Some kind of anicent ritual?

6th Annual Summer Classic sponsored by Hobby Hub Aug 7th and 8th,2004

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It's that time of year, once again, the 6th Annual Summer
Classic sponsored by the Hobby Hub of Lansing, MI.

Classes offered will be:

Stock Rubber Touring

19T Touring

Open Touring- Any Modified or Brushless system

Nitro Touring

F1- Lazer Rules

I haven't set the entry fees yet, I'm waiting on pricing for this year's t-shirts.
We will be running the warm up the Sunday before. Also, we'll be testing a new traction additive.

Any questions call 517-351-5843.

Hope to see you all soon,

Nick

Their thread can be viewed here.........
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?t=86393

probably something indian.

Well I had to give up one of my speed controls with that buggy so I am only running sedan for a while now.. I gota stop spending so much money.. I got the Futaba 3PM raido.. It's actaully quite nice.. It's just one step under the futaba 3pk.. I got a pretty good deal on it.. I still gota read that manual and figure out how to use all the functions it has.. but it sure feels a lot better than those cheap AM Mangum radios I am used to.. I really like it so far... 3ch, FM 75mhz, 10 model mem, EPA, servo mixing, ect.. lot's of stuf I dont know what it does yet... I think it will be plenty for me..

probably something indian.

Try Scotish. Hence the Fighting Scots.

Scotish Indians?....
Strangest thing I've ever heard of!!
(Only in Caledonia I guess) LoL!!

Try Scotish. Hence the Fighting Scots.

Eh...

Would be pretty strange seeing bag pipe playing scotish indians with tomahawks!

Hey Andy, i got bodies coming, and funny thing is, they are clear! Can u fix that for me? It might just be one, i dunno yet. Let me know what we can work out.Sure can, Bill told me you were lookin to get some bodies painted. I'll be up at Rider's Wed night to drop off a few that I picked up today, and again on Sat. next week when I pick up another one for someone else. So we can work something out. And since I'm on here I'll giveeveryone some eye candy as well

How's this?
http://www.streetsourcemag.com/issues/2/6-2004/images/magnum/thumbnails/DSCF0024.jpg

and this!

http://www.streetsourcemag.com/issues/2/6-2004/images/magnum/thumbnails/DSCF0054.jpg

And yes, that thing's got a Hemi!

I like the second picture!!!! :D :D

Well, I had alot of out there racing today. I actually finished 2 races so I'm starting to get the feel for it again. Hope to make it out there again next week. The boys said they had fun to Chris more than Jeff. Jeff now wants a NTC3. So now he's off to start saving for one.

Today was a great day for onroad racing. I purchased a sprayer and got some pop to spray down the track. Wow! It sure made my car hook up. We had some close racing today. We had two heats of stock truck today! The Stock Truck class is growing so everybody that has a truck needs to come and join the fun. Also the Power Puff class was back today. We would like to get more ladys in this class. After all this is a family sport!

I would like to get some feedback if you like/dislike posting the finals on hobbytalk.

Here the Finals!

Touring Mod Foam "B" Main
Jason Dudda 22@5m12s
Ed Lamberson 14@3m44s
Andrew Knapp 6@1m40s
Brad Baker no time
Mike Minnie no time


Touring Mod Foam "A" Main
Kevin Marcy 24@5m14s
Jesse Holman 24@5m17s
Marty Whitehead 22@5m13s
Mike Howe 22@5m13s
Tony Whitehead 21@5m02s
Fred Knapp 11@3m02s


Touring Nitro "B" Main
Pete Helmer 41@10m13s
Ted Hoven 38@9m17s
Todd Major 22@10m16s
Jeff Houlman 5@5m49s
Pete G no time

Touring Nitro "A" Main
Alp-hed 71@15m12s
Damon Converse 67@15m06s
Tim Binks 65@15m04s
Me Clean 63@15m07s
Brad Baker 21@6m39s

Stock Truck "B" Main
David Washburn 17@5m08s
Jeremy Eason 17@5m13s
Collin Vandenbosh 15@5m11s
Chris Hoven 14@5m21s
Alex Ribs 11@5m20s

Stock Truck "A" Main
Fred Knapp 18@5m01s
Ken Simpson 17@5m04s
Scott Ozborn 17@5m08s
Andrew Knapp 14@5m14s
Tom Van Dam no time

Power Puff Main
Omega Pi 16@5m14s
Tonya Easton 15@5m20s
Myra Whitehead 12@5m07s
Chasty Whitehead 12@5m11s
Shelly Mickel 2@0m56s

Way to go Mike! how did u like those batteries?