Steven........

The results from the "State Champs" can be found here.......
https://home.comcast.net/~tkelley954/2004michamps/Print_Meeting_Report.html

Whats with all the DNS results for postions? Did they get rained out or something?

Whats with all the DNS results for postions? Did they get rained out or something?Maybe it was a hack fest and a lot of people broke there stuff.

Whats with all the DNS results for postions? Did they get rained out or something?
It's a computer glitch with the "Alycat Race Management System "
scoring program.

You'll have to look at their actual finishing laps/time to see
if they went to the end of the race or broke. ie: a 30 minute
race would look something like this..... 99/30m9.30s which would
be 99 laps at 30 minutes and .30 seconds.

This guy didn't finish..... 65/27m24.30s

Ah, I see said the blind man to the deaf woman....

What a hoot we had tonight. I managed to get the pole position and we were off and racing, swapping positions, slicing and dicing. Jesse has become a heck of a driver. Nice job Jesse.

Sellout...



What a hoot we had tonight. I managed to get the pole position and we were off and racing, swapping positions, slicing and dicing. Jesse has become a heck of a driver. Nice job Jesse.

Sellout...Not yet, but I'm hopeful.

What a hoot we had tonight. I managed to get the pole position and we were off and racing, swapping positions, slicing and dicing. Jesse has become a heck of a driver. Nice job Jesse.
So, who won?

That would be Jesse.

I think by a couple of 10th's

And then am I to assume you finished 2nd?

And then am I to assume you finished 2nd?You are correct in your assumption, I was the firt loser.

Excellent!!! How'd Steven do, or should I ask?

Excellent!!! How'd Steven do, or should I ask?He was "DNE" Did not enter.

DNE....... that's funny, never heard that one before!
Yeah, he mentioned some about no money to race with.

Wensday

NItro Foam

1-Tom Hays -- 24 5m09
2-Jerrod Glover -- 20 5m02
3-Mr.Clean -- 12 2m43
4-Marty -- no time



Mod Foam

1-Jesse Holman -- 23 5m05
2-Fred Knapp -- 23 5m09
3-Jason Dudda -- 18 5m01
4-Roy Dallier -- no time
5-Andrew Knapp -- no time

OK, what day (sat or sun) do you guys run? Anyone running rubber tire mod or 19T????

don't have the patience to weed thru 30 some odd pages....

Saturday at around 1:00. It's mostly been Mod, but we have done 19T rubber if enough people want a separate class.

This Saturday in Grand Rapids weather permitting, I feel like running some oval. This track is super smooth. I ran last summer and loved it. Huge flat track. I want to say we did 45 laps in 4 minutes in 19 turn. Let see if we can get some guys there. I plan on it.

Fred, Mark, Spraks?????? I will make some calls as well. Anyone know if Butch has been showing up?

Hope to see some of you there.Marty, it looks like we should make sure the track is in order for easy change over, finally some oval racing. Are you going to run yours?
Here's a link to the oval thread: http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?p=786931#post786931

fred

shure why not i will give it a shot but all i can run is stock but thats fine with me ya'll can run 19t or what ever ya usually run.





are we running a 19t rubber this weekend & is it 19t goes or taged and fixed timming

Marty, You could run the same 19 turn that you run in your sedan?

Marty, You could run the same 19 turn that you run in your sedan?

no that speed control quit i dont have another & i don't owne a 19t

does anyone knw the motor limit on a novak atom esc?

No motor limit on an Atom (I've got one), but they do not recommend more than 6 cells (just in case you're thinking of running 7). I also have a 19T you can use...was good for 2nd place in Big Jim's motor contest, so it should be fast enough for you...

Denney

Right now it looks like Mother Nature may win today's event. Can anyone near GR see a sky in the clouds? Any hope of racing today?

I guess Tony has the scoring system debacle figured out. It was somethig to do with trying to keep the scoring loop in neat little coils.

I was impressed after they got it figured out it seemed to go quite smoothy. i wish I would have beenable to finish a race though.

I guess Tony has the scoring system debacle figured out. It was somethig to do with trying to keep the scoring loop in neat little coils.
I talked to Scotty Earnst at S&S in Wisconson a few years ago and he said he had the same problem as I was having. (missing counts and other things) He solved it by doing away with the yellow cable, and replacing it with standard 16-22ga wire cut to the length needed. We've been using it that way ever since with little or no problems. I personally think the yellow cable AMB supplies is to heavy duty. It was orginally designed to be burried 1" to 3" under the racing surface which would put the cable much closer to the transponder that the bridge provides. I can't recall the last time I attended a race and seen them using the factory yellow loop!
can you??

nope.

I was always the one that hooked up the scoring loop every weekend. This weekend I was gone and Marty hooked it up. He made sure the loop wires were not crossed and I always layed the extra in a pile, crossing them up. The program has a noise level reading on the scoring loop. When Marty told me the noise level was high, that got me thinking. We set up the system and when the wires were not crossed, the noise level was high. When we crossed the wires the noise level went to "0". When the wires were not crossed, the transponder range was 6 to 8 inches. When the wires were crossed the range was 2 to 3 foot. I think crossing the wires has something to do with removing noise like tristing motor lead wires to help on radio noise. If we was putting the leads flat on the blacktop, we would not have seen this problem.

So how was racing this weekend? Who won?

sorry I could not be there but there were many Bass out in the lake w/ my name on them:thumbsup:
tony (aka mr. clean)

Mr Clean,
I was out of town last weekend but Marty had a lot of problems with the scoring loop. They only ran two heats and a main. We did not post the scores because we was not sure it was counting the laps right. We have it working now and we will be there Wed night.

I sent an e-mail off to AMB about our problems last week. It was:

Last week my local track had problems with their AMBrc system. The transponders read OK when we passed them over the loop by hand, but would not read when the cars went past. The software was showing a "noise level" of around 16-18 in its transponder test screen. We eventually got it working after we changed 2 things:



1-We moved the loop coax wire away from the PA system's speaker wire

2-We bundled up the excess loop wire (which was wrapped around a couple of "traffic cones") into 2 small coils which we tie-wrapped to the "bridge" that the loop was on.

After doing this, the noise level went down to zero. Any idea which (if any) of these things may have been responsible for our problems? They use the bridge concept mainly because the standard AMB loop wire is pretty thick to run cars over, and they can't bury it in the track. Could we make our own loop with a smaller gauge (and shorter) wire? (I mean, really, how many 30' wide R/C tracks have you seen?)


Their answer is:

I can tell you with a pretty high degree of certainty that the PA speaker and wire are what caused your noise level to increase. Any metal or otherwise magnetic material will often cause interference, as the system works by magnetic induction. Wires, speakers, metal piping, etc should be kept away from the loop wire and coax.



As for a smaller gauge wire, 18 gauge wire tends not to be a problem until you get into 12th scale and smaller (which I am assuming you are running if you find it to be too big. You can definitely cut the loop wire down to fit to your track if you like, but I can’t honestly say that you won’t have any problems if you create your own loop wire (although it is also very possible that you will have no trouble). I understand your point about the track width for R/C tracks, although we do have some Quarter-Scale customers who use every inch of the wire.

So how was racing this weekend? Who won?

sorry I could not be there but there were many Bass out in the lake w/ my name on them:thumbsup:
tony (aka mr. clean)Aside from the scoring problems, the racing was great, and the weather was (unexpectedly) warm and sunny. When did bass start getting tatoos? And how did they know your name?


Does anybody know the web page address for Berlin Raceway? It used to be berlinraceway.com, but that doesn't seem to be working now.

When did bass start getting tatoos? And how did they know your name?

Oh, they've been tagging them for quite some time. But I've been having a devil of a time finding the ones with my name on them. Maybe it's time to bust out the dynomite... :mad: :D

kevinm
That is the right address. They must be down right now because I can not get to it too.

So who alls going to Berlin for Wednesday night's 125 late model feature???

I'll be there along with a few others that I think are going.

I'm not going to make it. It looks like rain tonight anyway.

Are you guys running on July 3rd??? if so, who's interested in running some mod 1/12th???

We beat the rain and we had a great time at Riders this afternoon. Here the Main's results.

Nitro
Apl-hed 49@ 10m02s
Marty Whitehead 45 @ 10m00s
Ted Hoven 34@ 7m28s
Jerrod Glover - no time

Elect Mod
Fred Knapp 23 @ 5m04s
Roy Dallier 23 @ 5m11s
Tony Whitehead Jr 22 @ 5m6s
Tony Whitehead 21 @ 5m09s
Jason Dudda 15 @ 3m26s
Andrew Knapp 14 @ 3m16s



Point Standings!

Nitro
Steven Steward - 3
Mr Clean - 3
Alp-hed - 3
Tom Heys - 2
Ted Hoven - 2
Jerrod Glover - 2

Elect Mod
Fred Knapp - 8
Jesse Holman - 7
Roy Dallier - 5
Tony Whitehead Jr - 2

I'm not going to make it. It looks like rain tonight anyway.
It's a shame you decided not to go. You missed one heck of a nights racing!
Sportsman were a hoot (lot's of crashes) SuperStocks ran a great race.
Joe Bush finished 2nd only to Johnny Benson, but Joe led about 85 out
of the 125 laps. (just not the one that mattered most) Joe's team mate
Lee Anderson finished third and Tom Thomas finished seventh.
Michael Waltrip finished somewhere near the bottom.

yeaaah...lol, havent run the last two weeks and im still leading. Im gunna have to get back in the game, huh?

So anyone up for 19turn rubber this weekend?I am working on my car should I leave it set up for mod are change it ?Did anyone run 19turn last weekend ?LMK Ed

I'm always up for 19T rubber, we didn't have enough last weekend, so I ran with the mod guys. Aside from some fairly evil handling, I didn't fare too badly...but I would rather run with other 19T cars (until I get a brushless...).

Denney

It's a shame you decided not to go. You missed one heck of a nights racing!
Sportsman were a hoot (lot's of crashes) SuperStocks ran a great race.
Joe Bush finished 2nd only to Johnny Benson, but Joe led about 85 out
of the 125 laps. (just not the one that mattered most) Joe's team mate
Lee Anderson finished third and Tom Thomas finished seventh.
Kevin Harvick finished somewhere near the bottom.
Kevin Harvick was there,, You sure you were at the right track John boy??


dbr

I think I was....... here's official results from the Late Models......

No. Driver Laps Back
1 10 Benson, Johnny
2 101 Bush, Joe
3 18 Anderson, Lee
4 1 Sweet, Randy
5 22 Campbell, Brian
6 82 Thomas, Tom
7 11 Grega, John
8 12 DeVos, Tim
9 27 Shotko, Billy
10 X Clay, Ray
11 31 *Bursley, Mike
12 72 Hantz, Scott
13 222 Bisacky, Caleb
14 28 Thomas, Scott
15 17 Zimmerman, Greg
16 15 Waltrip, Michael -1
17 90 Corwin, Cort -1
18 21 Maxim, Brian -1
19 60 Bergakker, Brian -3
20 47 Campbell, Fred -19
21 74 Namey, Paul -41
22 7 Fricke, Alan -49
23 88 Yonker, Tim -51
24 37 Senneker, Terry -82
25 0 Holley, Bob -88
26 32 Meeuwsen, Ross-R -96
27 33 Stehouwer, Dave -100
28 26 Muyskens, Chris -124

Kevin Harvick was there,, You sure you were at the right track John boy??
dbr
Yeah, your right.... I meant Michael Waltrip, not Kevin Harvick.
Must have drank to much Pepsi or sat to close to somebody drinking beer!!

:freak: :freak: :freak:

Anyway, the car was blue and yellow, had NAPA on the hood, and wasn't
a player in the front five so I didn't pay much attention. Nothing unusual!!

So anyone up for 19turn rubber this weekend?I am working on my car should I leave it set up for mod are change it ?Did anyone run 19turn last weekend ?LMK Ed
Roy Dallier was telling me that he would like to run 19T rubber too.

Well I just spent 3hrs cleaning and seting my car back up.It was all out of wack :freak: I am going with the rubber tires and 19 turn and hopfuly we have a nuff to run a class this weekend. See ya saturday.