Racing resumes at the Longest Continuous Ruuning R/C Club in the world; The Capital District R/C Stock Car Club (AKA CD R/C Racers) tomorrow night, Monday 21 June. Others come and go, other proimise and can't deliver, and others just talk.

However, we take pride in listenting to you; the racers; to continue to improve our program and run what you want to run. Times change and those in the pits get left behind. In the end it's not the size of the track that matters; but character of those that race; where-ever, when-ever and what-ever.

Slight time change this week as we go off at 7:00 PM and plan to run straight through the program. First one there soak the track; even if its noon, soak it!!

Thanks and ....

Well in my opinion its the location of the track, and if that location does not exsist then the track dont exsist. The big track is what kept Competition alive. As for the best racing thats questionable. I support the big track because without the big track the short track wouldnt exsist. As for just pulling the trigger and going fast, I dunno where u have been, but it takes a lot of effort to run the big track. It isnt hard to setup a car when ur off the throttle half of the run. Further More if you all think the big track is so easy to drive come on downno work? Wednesday. Prove me wrong!:mad:

Hey AL, I think I'll be at the track tonight about 7ish, stop over and say hi. I won't have much to say, but you can talk :p
As for the big track vs. the small track, they're both fun in their own way. I'd race both nights if I could :cry:
See you tonight, Bret

Gentlemen..gentlemen... :cool:

I am a firm believer that the level of competiton and racers makes this an enjoyable hobby, not the size of the track. If "size matters," we'd all travel to K/N to run carpet in the winter instead of running in Rensselaer or Glens Falls. Point being, the good racing always takes place where the masses go, regardless of track size. It's all relative...

Now Al, why would you start throwing shots at the 4WD class when you haven't even tried one? Not a good thing to do a a race promoter. If people want to run them, sign them up and take their entries...

FYI: Eric's 4WD car looked awfuly fast last night,with the 19 turn... And for the record, John Hauenstein won the big series race and holds the MOD record on the big track, (last year? or 2 years ago), with a 19 turn Chameleon he borrowed from me the day of the race. He outran Bulldog, Terry Schmidt, Brett, Rupert, myself...everyone.

If you want Al, I'll match race my stock car against your mod car on the big track... :cool:

There's no reason both nights/tracks can't exist without animosity. All you can do is offer each of your programs, and the racers will decide where they want to compete.

I'm just be thankful we have the facility that we have at Competition. We have a facility that offers tables, power, a drivers stand, a hobbyshop and a deli...and it's not out in the middle of nowhere. I don't take it for granted, because others aren't as fortunate and have to travel hours to race at facilities that aren't half as nice. Think about it... :thumbsup:

Al, I'd love to stop by and race sometime this Wednesday if I ever get the day off from work, but I doubt I could prove you wrong. You see, I enjoy making you angry on this message board and was just joking, hence the smily faces. I realize it takes much moe than motor to get around the big track and the main reason I like the small track so much better is probably because i suck on the big track. But trust me, you can go plenty fast with a 19T. There's really no need to get so worked up over these things.

On a different note, I got my Late Model running pretty good last night, but I won't know how good it really is until I get some competition! Trust me, it's the most fun to be had on dirt!

yes, but like I said before todd the big track is what made Competition what it is, not the short track. I have supported the big track for many years. I also regularly get stuff from the hobby shop. But Frankly racing in a whole has turned me off in the last year. Its lost its fun factor, and become a total money game. At least on Dirt it isnt totally a motor and battery war. Problem is no one wants to race on the big track.

as for 4 wheel drive, I wasnt throwing shots, I`d like to try it, but I want to use a lil more power than a 19 turn, and really anything more than a stock motor is just wasted horsepower on the short track.

AS for the match race? I`m not a betting man but regardless of the motor I think you would win.

Fast Al
(Race Director) Competition R/C Outlaws dirt oval

Al: Think about what you just said...the bigger the straighaway, the more $$$ it costs to get down it the fastest. :cool:
I don't enjoy racing as much either when it becomes a battery and motor game...sounds funny coming from a guy who makes his living off of building race motors, but when I want to race, I'd rather work with the chassis and have to "get up on the wheel" rather than dyno tuning motors and cycling packs. Short tracks are great for this type of racing. You can even bump and bang on the short track, where on the big track it normally causes carnage.
As far as the big track making Competition what it is, if that's the case, thats fine...but from purely a "racing" perspective, there is absolutley better wheel to wheel racing on the short track.
I run motors that aren't good enough for me to packge and sell...These babies are the bottom of the barrel. In fact, I've made the A on two seperate occaisions running 3000's! I wouldn't even consider practicing on the big track with this stuff...
If I can give you some advice re: promoting: If you want to see Wednesday nights take off, get the Offroad track up and runnning. Between buggies, trucks and nitro, I'll bet you get a bigger turnout than both Monday and Wednesday oval nights combined... :thumbsup:

Besides all this bickering. How was last night? What time did you guy's finish? What was the turn out?

AMEN get the damn off road track up and running !

yeah i wanna race my 1/8 buggy!

Pete, they were 1 short :p
I have a job for you, actually 2 ;) See you NEXT Monday???
Later, Bret

Bret, Yes I will be there next week. I went to the latemodel show at Middletown Sunday night and spent a little more then I wanted. Remember it cost me 30.00 a week just to get to Lathem and back, plus racing and what not... But I will be there even though i'm going to Pocono to race a Lambo this Sat. and Sun. I'll bring the video of it next week. Should be fun!!!

Hey if anyone is looking for a 4WD late model car, there is one i just came across on ebay, ive never bought from this guy nor are the pictures very detailed, but it might be worth looking into if anyone is trying to get something put together.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=44019&item=5905782755&rd=1

mike

Pete Z:
Kirt, Eric and Scott Hauenstein are running the program, and I've kinda self-appointed myself as the water truck. The last 2 weeks we've been done with all the mains by 10:30. With Scott helpng "fill in the gaps" at the computer while we're wrenching, the show moves right along...
You had better keep on top of getting packs charged in time, because the show is moving that fast now.... :thumbsup:

That's good to hear. Next week should be good, see if we have our first repeat winner of the year. Just shows how close the racing is that no one has doubled up yet.

TP, are you going to the CVRA vs. the World race on Tuesday next week? I'm planning on coming up for it.

Heres an idea, if you want more racers for Wed. nights how about putting up a sign in front of the hobby shop to promote it? Might not be a bad idea to put one up inside as well! Personally I have no preference big or small track, I do equally bad on both and I will race which ever night is convenient for me. Just an idea Al or Kirt but how about having one or two races on a Friday or Saturday night?

Eric i actually ran the car through one pack today on the short track,it go's really well. We need to sweep the rocks and tree debrie of the track. My car seems to hit all that stuff,i ran a 10single with no problems,it was under geared though.More than enough rip to keep the car sideways every where! :D This class will be fun!
See ya monday! For shure!
I cant get soft tires so WET that track on monday,Soak it down pour style. :cool:

I don't think you need to worry about soaking the track. Mr Putnam has been made the official water truck, and trust me, there has been no shortage of water in recent weeks. My car can deal with the rocks ok, it's just the big bump in the front straightaway that throws the front end of my car in the air every time I stay in the groove that bothers me. Can't wait to race the thing! Who knows, i might get my dad's done in time too!

Hey Pete, we did miss ya. New start time is 7, providing the water truck does his thing on time. No complains as the track was great.

We had a great pace, 8 heats, I left at 10:30 after picking up everything and Eric ran out an extra battery pack in the 4WD.

Sounds good Kirt. I'll be there this Monday. I'm not upset with you or anything else. It's tough sometimes to get out in time to get up there. I have to leave here by 3:00 to beat the traffic up there. See you guy's Monday. When will you start running your place on Friday's?

Eric what did you run for springs? I have a mixed bag of what i thought would work... Tough getting through the grass with the car so low! We need a lawn mower up there!
I will be there with a 19turn so build your pop's car and lets go. It will happen this week, no 1/8th racing as i have to work and i am waiting for a motor.

Pete;
The Pine Bowl will swing into action on Monday July 5th in place of Competition, Friday July 9th as a warm-up to Sat Jul 10th World Dirt Racing stop. Additional dates to be announced shortly, probably every other Friday night.

Mike;
The shocks are done, the body painted, picked up tires Monday and the missing parts showed up in the mail the other day, so I should be ready to go 4 wheel'n on Monday. Mike W and a co-worker (another Mike) should also be ready.

See Ya Monday.....At The Track

Mike, I ran Associated buggy front springs all the way around on my car. Silvers on the back, a green on the left front, and a silver on the right. I took the droop screws right out of hte a-arms to get as much clearance as I could.

Sorry guy's. I won't be able to come up on Monday. I'm going back to Pocono tomorrow morning to run some more. Real seat time is far better then R/C. If anyone needed anything I will be up at Alb/Sar. on Tuesday and Maybe run the Bigtrack on Wed. See you next week at Pine Bowl for sure! Here are some links of the cars I'm racing. They are pretty awesome. We get up to 160 on the straights.

http://home.hvc.rr.com/zgraphix/Lamb1.jpg
http://home.hvc.rr.com/zgraphix/Lamb2.jpg
http://home.hvc.rr.com/zgraphix/carl2.jpg
http://home.hvc.rr.com/zgraphix/Carl1.jpg

they look sweet!have fun!

tony

Thank's Tony, I will...

Just a quick reminder that we are racing at the Pine Bowl R/C Speedway next Monday July 5th. Yes it is a points race for the summer dirt season. Yes you have 4 drops for the massive $2Million Pooint Fund LOL.

The Club is also sponsoring a Friday night warm-up race on Friday July 9 at the Pine Bowl as well as the much anticipated July 10th event Sponsored by the World Dirt Racing Assoc.

Directions and info on dirtoval.com

I'm selling off my stuff. If anyone is looking for somthing let me know. It all goes to ebay tomorrow afternoon.

Here is a list of the stuff i have.
Cars:
B3 Terminator – Delrin front and rear bulkheads, TC3 shocks, Slipper Eliminator, car has best of everything. 300.00
1/12 Trinity Reflex 12 oval – Hitec 225, no tires 125.00
T3 RTR truck – will come with a lot of FT parts. Radio, 2 packs, Novak speedo. 125.00
Speedos:
KO with adapter – like new, new 250.00 will sell with adt. 150.00
Novak GT-7 – the plastic switch broke, easy fix. 75.00
Charger:
CE GFX – 300.00
Batts:
Whiplash – 6 cell new for this season 1.16 431
Whiplash – 6 cell new for this season 1.16 430
Whiplash – 6 cell 1.16 401
TQ Cells – 6 cell 1.16 398 would like to get 75.00 for all
Radio:
KO Mars Limited #930 of 2000 comes with nimh batts and 3 KO receivers 150.00
Tools and Equipment:
Xipp Comm cutter – with slave motor carbide bit. 60.00
Bulldog 30 amp Power Supply – 80.00
Xipp Brush Tool – 20.00
Misc:
Foam tires with custom works wheels about 5 set. 50.00
Motors – 2 Putnam Monster stocks like new 25.00 each
7x1 Putnam 1 weekend 30.00
12x2 Trinity P94 25.00
10 pair Putnam P94 brushes 20.00
10 pair Putnam X Brushes stand up 20.00

Shipping will be charged accordingly Money order only. Pics will be available tonight per request. I’m going to hold off on Ebay till Monday so act fast. azerneri@hvc.rr.com

Pete....WHAT ARE YOU DOING !!!!
Selling off just so you can go 160 in a real race car???
Can I come too?!?!?

Have fun and most of all....be safe.
We'll miss you at the Pine Bowl this weekend.

Kirt, I will be at the Bowl making my final start. After the race the electrics come out and the car goes to a new home. Hopefully this will only be a year or two departure from racing. I hate seeing it all go, but I'm looking forward to starting my own business.

Hey Pete good luck in your new venture !!!!! .............Dave L :thumbsup:

First, let me thank the 38 drivers who traveled to the Pine Bowl and supported this race and the series. My only disappointment was the lack of our local and regular racers. I also apologize to the out of towners who did not have a truck field.

But, on a spectacular weather day the racing was fantastic; and if I do say so myself, the track surface lived up to it's reputation by being fast, tacky, fast, smooth....oh and did I say fast!!!

Last years TQs where obliderated by 3 laps in stock and, put the beer down, 7 laps in Modified.

Mike Damallie layed down a 50 in 4:00.32 topping Dean Anderson's mark of 47 in last years event while Pete D'agnolo upped his own record from 50 to 57 in 4:00.32. However, as is often the case in racing TQ does not guarantee anything. Hard luck award to Mike Damalllie; as he was unable to rebuild the broken front end from the Mod B in time to take the green in the Big Block A. Mike; have that sponsor send another chassis next year. LOL. While in Mod, Matt Olmsted saved the best for last as he drove through around and to the Modified maylay win from his fourth starting position.

Congratulations to all the winners, you deserve it!
Complete Results
Capital District RC Racers 07-10-2004

Best Heat Lap/Time for EDM Big Block:
Mike Demallie with 50/4:00.32

-- EDM Big Block - A MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name
1 2 49 4:00.43 Chris Lorette
2 6 49 4:00.49 Dave Solomon
3 3 48 4:02.58 Jim Calvary
4 8 48 4:04.78 Paul Mulrain
5 5 45 4:03.17 Dylan Watier
6 4 44 4:17.53 Mike Barber
7 7 8 0:46.99 Eric Coonradt
-- 1 --- DNS --- Mike Demallie


-- EDM Big Block - B MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name
1 1 50 4:04.75 Eric Coonradt
2 2 49 4:03.02 Paul Mulrain
3 6 48 4:04.66 Barry Wallace
4 4 32 2:56.95 Jeff Winzens
5 5 31 2:46.54 Jason Wruck
6 3 14 2:11.82 John Schulz
-- 7 --- DNS --- Kirt Coonradt


Best Heat Lap/Time for EDM Sportsman:
Bill Karl with 46/4:02.63

-- EDM Sportsman - A MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name
1 3 42 4:02.21 Sam Leary
2 2 42 4:03.65 Justin Barber
3 5 38 4:08.31 Mike Jeffery
4 1 37 4:00.25 Bill Karl
5 6 31 4:02.92 Keith Watson
6 4 22 2:27.89 Roger Hill
7 7 15 3:58.76 Tom Green


Best Heat Lap/Time for Late Model:
Eric Coonradt with 49/4:00.08

-- Late Model - A MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name
1 1 49 4:00.40 Eric Coonradt
2 3 46 4:07.25 Mike Watson
3 2 42 3:37.03 Barry Wallace
4 4 27 4:00.41 Mike Ferguson


Best Heat Lap/Time for EDM Modified:
Pete D'Agnolo with 57/4:00.72

-- EDM Modified - A MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name
1 5 54 4:00.22 Matt Olmsted
2 4 54 4:00.67 Todd Putnam
3 2 54 4:03.92 Ziggy
4 3 51 4:02.39 Jeff Rupert
5 1 50 4:00.90 Pete D'Agnolo
6 7 50 4:03.81 John Hauenstein
7 8 46 4:01.76 Chris Lorette
8 6 9 1:06.12 Jim Carr


-- EDM Modified - B MAIN --
pos Car Laps time name
1 2 52 4:03.28 John Hauenstein
2 1 50 4:01.86 Chris Lorette
3 6 46 4:04.26 Wallly
4 4 42 3:20.77 Billy Kimpton
5 5 42 3:35.28 Dylan Watier
6 8 24 2:26.28 Bill Wruck
7 7 18 1:41.20 Mike Demallie
8 3 16 1:19.82 Dean Anderson

Again, thanks to all who came, from near or far;, you guys made my day just being here to race at the Pine Bowl. See Ya Next Year

PS; If anyone found a balistic battery pack; please let us know via this thread.

Anohter night flirting with Mother nature as very light sprinkles fell on and off throughout the night. But, the show must, and did go on. Thanks for all the track work emergency reapirs, we will attempt to schedule afix-it day very soon.
ALso thanks for all the help on the pick-up; much appreciated. The show started at little late 7:15; but ran smoothly through the 7 heats and 6 mains to finish before 10:00.

Great racing in the Sportmans class, you guys are really showing improvement. The only major incident showed us how "Slammin" Sam got his nick-name (I sure hope he finds that shock!!).

Slightly smaller crowd that ususal, but I'll bet the weather and the weekend race where to blame.

Results will be posted shortly on that thread.

Please don't forget to support the hobby shop and the Deli as we owe these establishments a great deal of gratitute for the arrangement we have enjoyed. Lets not ignor the hand that helps us.

'til next week when we'll....

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See Ya ... At The Track

Another great night in all phases and aspects:



The track crew, volunteers and volunteered, did a fantastic job repairing the front straight; which was in bad shape for an off-road track, let alone an oval!



Everyone was ready to go all night. 8 races in a round; everything run and done before 10:30.



New faces and old friends finding there way onto the oval:

Tom Rogers welcome back

Brett Lund; Talk about come-backs, nothing short of a miracle :>)

Louie Citro a newcomer to the area and our zany band of racers.



Most of all: wonderful to have help behind the mike, which allowed me to race!! Thanks to Todd, John and Tom.



This week’s quiz: Just how many laps does “Hot-Lap Hollinger” take each week?

Submit your guess onto the Club’s web site via an email

Winner will be chosen by a random drawing of all correct entries received by midnight 25 July 2004



Congrats to all the winners:

Tony the tiger continues his winning ways in the Trucks

Aaron keeps getting quicker, it won’t be long

Putnam may need a bounty on him to stop his EDM Big Block domination

(Rupert are you free any Monday nights) LOL

Derek Koniowka gets in the run of his career to take down the Sportsman “A”

(Maybe not having brother Frank’s tuning tips where a good thing)

Brett Lund rents a late model and destroys the field (with a 27 turn)

Next time I’ll be ready for the drop of the green.



Next week’s project:

Getting Justin’s radio issues solved

Help’n Matt get that da@#$%^ truck figured out



As I mentioned last week Eric is moving into a new house and web updates will be as soon as possible, please be patient.



Last but not least, only 6 weeks of the most fun, thrilling and exciting summer dirt points season remain (Oh No!!)

Stay tuned for special events and the season ending ceremonies.

Complete results posted on Dirtoval.com Event Results Thread

See Ya next week...................At the Track :thumbsup:

The points have been updated on the website, but I haven't done any of the typing yet. A full update will come later this afternoon when I get home from work. I'd post this on DirtOval too, but I forgot my password.

Thanks Curt, that was very fun.
Thanks, Eric for the car loan,
Thanks Todd for the batteries and motor loan,
Thanks Paul for charging the batteries.
I've never been to a race and borrowed EVERYTHING necessary to race ;) And still had so much fun. Makes me want to buy a 4WD :thumbsup:...We'll see.
Thanks guy's,
Later, Bret

Bret, If so i have a like new ft tc3 tones of extras. we can talk.

HHH
I want that receiver :p Remember the KR297FZ 27Mhz??? Bring it NEXT Monday night??? Maybe we'll have to talk about that TC.
Later, Bret

Just a note to all the guys running TC3s in the Late Model Class. You should probably check the ball ends on the top of the front block carriers. When I checked over my car the other night, they had completely backed out and were rubbing the inside of the wheels. If you recall, this same thing happened to Eric's TC3 (although his ball end just fell out completely).

-Mike

..I thnk I saw some screws backing out after the 4WD class, too...backing out of the walls! If everyone slowed down a lttle, I'll bet you'd all go faster...
Not bashing, just a helpful observation... :thumbsup:

I think Bret proved that by running and winning with a 27 turn motor ;)

I WON'T condone stock racing, but I did have plenty of power with a stocker. In fact it felt PERFECT!!! Hammer down!!! I believe we should be able to run whatever motor you choose, I'll choose something slower than 19t.
Maybe in the future, with more 4WD knowledge, and more bite, I'd go for more power, but for now a stocker should do EVERYONE just fine. Not a rule, it should be a choice!!!
Later, Bret

points are updated and posted on the website just click the same button they're there even though i haven't done any of the typing yet

Monday July 26
Mother Nature tried to fool us, as we hot lapped in light sprinkles until 6:45 but decided the show must go on. With pit boxes under plastic and well hidden under trees we went green at 6:50PM. By 7:45 the mist had stopped. By the second round the track was starting to come in, although many would say it never got quite tacky enought.

Great crowd for an "ugly" night. The return of Dave Peek in a borrowed ride from the Hollner stable, Bob and Bobby in tow, the invader from the West Jeff Rupret brought it home 3rd; but could not lay down the spanking he had hoped to.

Two things remained consistant,Putnam on top of the Big Block event; and ALvin is no where in sight on race night. LMAO !!

Congrats to the winners, the only loosers are those that went home early (no hard feelings, we just got lucky [again])!!

Haven't seen a post in awhile, how's the racin been, how many weeks left, and who's winning points???


Later, 10%

Sorry about that, too many places to post.


See Dirtoval.com under the weekly results and tracks threads for your reading pleasure. Points are on the Club's site cdrcracers.50megs.com.

The points portion of the dirt season is over ( Boooo) Points champions have been annointed, but not yet crowned; just need to get the trophys on order.

The next adventure is the Tri-Track Challenge running the next three monday nights at three different tract, again all details on Dirtoval and the Club's site.

We are in the plannning stages for the carpet season, full details will be up with in two weeks.

See Ya......At the track :thumbsup:

Speaking of trophies...:cry:

See you Monday.
Later, 10%

You a funny man LOL

So far the concensus has been to donate what little was collected to get something for the racers benefit. (I'll tell you the rest of the story in person as this is not the place)

Your 2 cents please