I'd like to see pictures of the components for the 4 footer. Gear legs and feet, bubble insides, fusion core etc.

i second that ! is there any more additional information on the 2 and 4 footers ?

I'd also like to see a model of the small SPFX model used for far away shots. I attached a photo for y'all to see.

Sorry for the delay. Norman has been extremely busy trying to get things ready for sale and pre-order. There were some modifications that had to be done to one of the action figures by request of the licensor. That has been done and the first three are now approved by the licensor. They should be available for pre-order very soon.
As for the 2' Jupiter 2 kit, the re-toolling has been completed and Norman should have a sample sent to the licensor for final approval mid next week. Once it is approved, Sci-Fi Metropolis will be accepting orders for them.
We apologize for the delays but please keep in mind, Norman is practically a one man show and when a minor set back such as re-toolling, re-sculpting, etc., can set us back weeks, in the case of the 2' Jupiter 2 kit, it has been months but we are close to the finish line. I just ask everyone, please be patient a little bit longer.


Thank you all so much.


Has anyone heard if we can starting ordering the figures yet:)

Very shortly, Norman will post detailed photos of the 2' Jupiter 2 kit on his site which will then be made available for sale. At this time, there are no photos of the 4' J2. They should be available Sept./Oct. 2004.

Thank you for your patience.




i second that ! is there any more additional information on the 2 and 4 footers ?

well as i always say "GOOD THINGS ARE WORTH WAITING FOR "

Are you saying that ONLY photos will be available of the 4 foot in the Sept/Oct time frame?

Thank you for your patience.

"Patience is the step-sister of wisdom", to quote one of my favorite fortune cookie slips. Patience, as I'm sure we're all aware of by this time, makes all the difference between a sloppy job and a "QUALITY" job, so I'm willing to wait as long as it takes.
Besides, I've got several dozen other projects to work on while waiting for what I expect will be a masterpiece :roll:

Are you saying that ONLY photos will be available of the 4 foot in the Sept/Oct time frame?
So how much will these photos cost? Will they be in scale with other offered items? Can I get a lighting kit for these photos?

Thanks:)

Heiki:

here's what is said...You decide what it means...

"Very shortly, Norman will post detailed photos of the 2' Jupiter 2 kit on his site which will then be made available for sale.

At this time, there are no photos of the 4' J2. They should be available Sept./Oct. 2004."

I apologize if I didn't word my last post to this board. Here is what I emant to say:

Norman will post photos of his Jupiter 2 Kit very shortly on his site. The actual 2' Jupiter 2 kit will be made available soon after. Regarding the 4' Jupiter 2 kit, there are no photos of the kit at this time. Norman hopes that he will have photos of the 4' Jupiter 2 kit available Oct/Nov 2004.

I hope everything clear.

I apologize for not being clear.


The actions figures will go up for pre-sale this week. Just making the last minute adjustments to the online store. The new photos are great and the final approved sculpts did make a lot of difference. The Keeper has a really nice belt along with his famous Keeper staff. The new Dr. Smith sculpt is admittingly better as well as the John Robinson. Norman's site, SciFi Metropolis will have the pics up soon.

Thank you everyone and if anyone has any question, no matter how menial it may be, please feel free to e-mail me privately if you wish to.

See ya in a couple of days.




So how much will these photos cost? Will they be in scale with other offered items? Can I get a lighting kit for these photos?

Thanks:)

Sorry all. I forgot to mention that Norman will be making fushion core lighting circuts for all of his Jupiter 2's. They also will be available at his on-line store this week.

Thanks


I apologize if I didn't word my last post to this board. Here is what I emant to say:

Norman will post photos of his Jupiter 2 Kit very shortly on his site. The actual 2' Jupiter 2 kit will be made available soon after. Regarding the 4' Jupiter 2 kit, there are no photos of the kit at this time. Norman hopes that he will have photos of the 4' Jupiter 2 kit available Oct/Nov 2004.

I hope everything clear.

I apologize for not being clear.


The actions figures will go up for pre-sale this week. Just making the last minute adjustments to the online store. The new photos are great and the final approved sculpts did make a lot of difference. The Keeper has a really nice belt along with his famous Keeper staff. The new Dr. Smith sculpt is admittingly better as well as the John Robinson. Norman's site, SciFi Metropolis will have the pics up soon.

Thank you everyone and if anyone has any question, no matter how menial it may be, please feel free to e-mail me privately if you wish to.

See ya in a couple of days.

Will you be able to purchase them through the scfimetropolis website.
Thanks for the information:)

I apologize if I didn't word my last post to this board. Here is what I emant to say:

Norman hopes that he will have photos of the 4' Jupiter 2 kit available Oct/Nov 2004.


Can you say if there is already a 4 foot diameter prototype hull in existance yet?

I imagine there is not , but just thought I would ask. :)

Mike

You will be able to order and pre-order all items from an online store affiliated with Sc-Fi Metropolis. It was supposed to have been launched last week but there were/are some problems we are trying to adjust to have everything operating properly. I will let this forum know when everything is ready.
Thank you for being understanding.




Will you be able to purchase them through the scfimetropolis website.
Thanks for the information:)

Yes, Sci-Fi Metropolis does have the upper and lower 4' hulls done but are not yet ready to promote it. We first want to get the 2' Jupiter 2 kit up and running before we begin with the 4'.


Can you say if there is already a 4 foot diameter prototype hull in existance yet?

I imagine there is not , but just thought I would ask. :)

Mike

Thanks for the information
ham1963:)

Are those "fins" already attached on the Fusion Cores?

Yes, Sci-Fi Metropolis does have the upper and lower 4' hulls done but are not yet ready to promote it. We first want to get the 2' Jupiter 2 kit up and running before we begin with the 4'.

Cool ! Thanks for the info - That's awesome! :thumbsup:

10 Foot aspirations ? :wave:

Mike

yeah, i 2and that question, how about the fins ????/ any new pic updates ??? i want one of these accurate jupiter 2's where the landing legs and lower viewport are correct right mark !! ?? my 24 incher i worked on for so long to find out there was a correction available on the lunar models that we were never given "SIGH"
Bert

The real engineering trick will be the footpad retracting back to the leg from its extended position as the legs retract into the hull.

The real engineering trick will be the footpad retracting back to the leg from its extended position as the legs retract into the hull.
Some how I get the feeling this wont be an option (did they already say it would be and I missed it somewhere??? :confused: ) ...

I mean for the $ they were talking for this kit - that would be a pretty intricate and delicate mechanism , I think - for inclussion in the base price.

I was again thinking more along the lines of the Trendmasters Jupiter 2 playset manual landing gear ( they , SFM , did say it would be manually operated gear) where the bottom of the footpad serves as the hulls footpad door. Y's talking about "mechanical" operations here...

So I guess a good thing to do is back up a bit and pose the following question to out friend RobotsRUs :

Are there plans to incorporate functioning foot pad doors on the 24" (or any scale) Jupiter 2 kits ?

If they already answered this question and I missed it somewhere , my appologies for asking again.

Mike

well, if they plan to do an accurate model, then the elegant footpad retraction, and sliding footpad doors will be included.

well, if they plan to do an accurate model, then the elegant footpad retraction, and sliding footpad doors will be included.
Y ,

Do you consider "accurate model" and "replica" to mean the same thing?

I've always considered them two differrent things.

By the sounds of it , they will offer a "base kit" and will offer "Accessories" to upgrade the appearance of the kit. But because of this , I have my doubts about foot pad doors. I guess we'll have to wait and see what that all means.

Of course we're (you & I) just debating this all right now ... until someone from SFM supplies the details. :)

Mike

a replica would HAVE to be accurate to BE a replica.

I'm actually not holding my breath that anybody will ever do an accurate model of the Jupiter 2. If these guys DO, then I'll get a 2 footer AND 4 footer! I've already figured out ways to move the stuff with servo's if they provide the basic parts.

a replica would HAVE to be accurate to BE a replica.

I'm actually not holding my breath that anybody will ever do an accurate model of the Jupiter 2. If these guys DO, then I'll get a 2 footer AND 4 footer! I've already figured out ways to move the stuff with servo's if they provide the basic parts.
Y -

You move it with servos and you're no longer "accurate" !! ;)

Catch-22 ! :devil:

Mike

(This is my opinion not the makers) Guys, you have to remember that this has to be mass produced and some things might not be as accurate as we demanding J-2 fans want. But I would think it will be pretty close and 1000 X's better that the Treadmasters or anything else out there. Lets just be thankful someone is doing this. So my question is, when can we preorder? The money is burning a hole in my pocket.

The original gear went up n down via a pulley arrangement, with direction controlled thru the 3 support wires. I will STILL use a pully arrangement, but I'll use a sail winch servo used for RC racing sailboats. They pull and release wire/string etc from a rotating drum. This will be fine for the 2 footer. I think if they deliver a accurate model with all components seperate, we'll be able to do the rest ourselves. I don't think they are gonna compromise the gear components, since they willl have to replicated the SPFX models methods to really be as advertised.

Hi Guys,
Norman from Sci-Fi Metropolis here. Let me see if I can answer a few questions for everyone.

The 2ft thermoformed kit comes with laser cut acrylic landing legs. This includes a laser cut acrylic foot pad door.

The kit will include the following :

upper and lower hulls
upper and lower hull support rings and ribs (structural members)
upper thermoformed bubble
laser cut landing legs / foot pad door
pressure cast foot pads
injection molded universal joints to connect the foot pad to the support strut
pressure cast clear fusion core (simply mask off window and paint)
laser cut derelict interior walls, floor, ceiling and backlighting panel
laser cut cockpit seats
pressure cast seat cushions for seats
pressure cast console / burroughs consoles

We will also be offering a few upgrades that can be added to this kit. One will be a decal kit for the 2ft scale and the other will be thermoformed leg wells. The leg wells will be made from the same material as the hull. So, once it is solvent welded in place it will never come "unglued". I'm sure no one would want a structural failure in the leg well area.

I hope this clears up a few things for now. The new retail site is being finished right now and should be up in a few days. We are just making final adjustments.

I posted a few photos of the clear cast fusion core (and a white one so you can see the detail) and the patterns for the seat cushions and console. These were early pattern photos of the console and seat cushions. The molds are now done and casting are being done in preperation for the kits release. The laser cut head rest is not on the seat in the photos, it's a paper template cut for reference only.
The clear cast fusion core will only require masking off the windows and painting. No spending hours trying to clean up openings for the windows or having to add clear sheet plastic for the "glass". This piece litterally comes out looking like an injection molded part.

Feel free to ask questions or make comments..........

Norman

I guess it would help if I told you where to look on my site. Go to the projects page and look in the thermoformed J2 pages.

Thanks, Norman

The parts photos for the 2ft J-2 look great. I was wondering what your plans are regarding the 12" version? Are you still planning on doing one of those?

Dave.

Thanks for the information Norman :thumbsup::thumbsup:

Here's some photos I have showing the flatness on TOP of the 4 footer Hull on a 60's era LIS Hull that was never turned into a SPFX model, but was stored at Fox central properties as a master 'just in case'

Here's some photos I have showing the flatness on TOP of the 4 footer Hull on a 60's era LIS Hull that was never turned into a SPFX model, but was stored at Fox central properties as a master 'just in case'The NGS port and the cabin port hole seem to line up. Is this kosher?

I noticed that the thermoformed items are silver in colour. Is this a vacuforming method? Will the 4 foot and the 2 foot Jupiter 2s be made of aluminin like the unit seen at Wonderfest? Will you mold in positions and/or/mounts that modelers can use to attach servos/gears/motors for the landing gears and doors?


Thanks

How much longer before we can purchase the 2' Jupiter Two? And how much?

From the previous posts in this thread, I'm guessing sometime around October and around $250 for the 24" Jupiter II.
Hopefully, Norman & Co. will be taking pre-orders in September, but that decision is their prerogative. In the meantime, I'm checking their website daily.

That suggests about $1200 to $2K for a 4 footer.

Since they have door details, which the 4 foot SPFX model didn't, and it DOES seem to be missing the flat spot around the bubble, I guess they are doing yet another composite model, with details from the set and SPFX model mixed together. (sigh)

I have already thought of a way to put the flat spot into the 2 foot looner moddles kit. Maybe i'll JUST order another upper hull from them. It's easy to filll in the door details, and cut out the top around the bubble to add in a balsa wood (indoor grade) area that can be turned on a drill and shaped with sand paper.

That suggests about $1200 to $2K for a 4 footer.......
That is way above my price range!

It may appear that the holes do line up but in fact they do not. The NGS scanner port is slightly off set toward the rear of the ship in reference to the port window.



The NGS port and the cabin port hole seem to line up. Is this kosher?

I think you have mixed up the Jupiter 2s. The silver colored Jupiter 2 taken at Wondefest was in fact an aluminum Jupiter 2 prototype. The actual material used to make the 2' kit is black ABS.
The landing leg openings, the lower view port openings, and the Space Pod hatch are all molded into the lower hull.
As a side note: We will be offerring a thermoformed leg weld kit that will allow for easy attachment of the legs (servos, gears, motors) in the future.



I noticed that the thermoformed items are silver in colour. Is this a vacuforming method? Will the 4 foot and the 2 foot Jupiter 2s be made of aluminin like the unit seen at Wonderfest? Will you mold in positions and/or/mounts that modelers can use to attach servos/gears/motors for the landing gears and doors?


Thanks

Sci-Fi Metropolis is awaiting approval of the 2' Jupiter 2 kit. Once it is approved, it will be available for sale immediately which should be within two weeks.

How much longer before we can purchase the 2' Jupiter Two? And how much?

We are looking at the end of August for the 2' Jupiter 2 kit to be available for sale. The suggested retail price is $299.99. Check out post 179 for details concerning what is included in this kit.

From the previous posts in this thread, I'm guessing sometime around October and around $250 for the 24" Jupiter II.
Hopefully, Norman & Co. will be taking pre-orders in September, but that decision is their prerogative. In the meantime, I'm checking their website daily.

Sci-Fi Metropolis is not producing a filming minature. What we are doing is providing a replica of the Jupiter 2 as closely as it appeared on film. In other words, if you could not see the imperfection on film, we did not incorporate it in our product. That flat spot was never intended to be seen. We used 16mm reference material, references from Ron Gross and Mike Sussek who is a film archivist, and the known dimensions taken from the restored 4' Jupiter 2 filming minature. The contour of our 2' jupiter 2 is identical to the 4' filming minature as it appeared on film.
Regarding the price for the 4' Jupiter 2 kit which should be available late 2004/early 2005, we are looking at a projected price of $799.99 and that will include everything the 2' kit has.


That suggests about $1200 to $2K for a 4 footer.

Since they have door details, which the 4 foot SPFX model didn't, and it DOES seem to be missing the flat spot around the bubble, I guess they are doing yet another composite model, with details from the set and SPFX model mixed together. (sigh)

I have already thought of a way to put the flat spot into the 2 foot looner moddles kit. Maybe i'll JUST order another upper hull from them. It's easy to filll in the door details, and cut out the top around the bubble to add in a balsa wood (indoor grade) area that can be turned on a drill and shaped with sand paper.

It is my pleasure to finally anounce that the offical retail web site for Sci Fi Metropolis is now open. The address is:
www.robotfactory.net

Please be advised, the lighting kits are now available for sale and the first wave of action figures are up for pre-order. Also take note...since these figures are limited edition collector pieces, there is a really good chance that they will sell out in pre-order. We are giving everyone here a heads up to be first to place your pre orders. Once these figures sell out, that is it. They will be retired which insures the vaule of your figures.
Placing a pre-order will only secure you an actual action figure. Your credit card will not be charged unitl the product is ready to ship.
Keep in mind, the site is only 90% completed. Please be patient. We are trying to get everything up and running smoothly.

Since the 4 footers (both Gemini 12 and Jupiter 2) DID have the flat spot and you now say yours does not, and the other comments that the shape was extrapolated from film, I have to wonder if any notes were taken on type of lens use to photograph the models? I understand they used a slight fish-eye lens to make the models appear larger and for the viewer to think the shots were done with a portrait lens. Even the photos of the stage hand steadying the model show the flattened area around the bubble. The 4 footer "filming models' as you call them did NOT have visible doors on them as your models do. ??????????????

Glad:thumbsup: to hear the site is up and running. I ordered (2) of the John Robinson figures. Do you know when you will be shipping the figures. Also are the lighting kits for your J-2's

Figures should ship November. The lighting kits do fit our kits.


QUOTE=ham1963]Glad:thumbsup: to hear the site is up and running. I ordered (2) of the John Robinson figures. Do you know when you will be shipping the figures. Also are the lighting kits for your J-2's[/QUOTE]

Hi Guys,

I realize that the 4 foot filming miniature had a flattened area around the bubble. I also realize that the filming miniature didn't really have a access hatch on it. The idea here was to take into account what Irwin Allen was trying to convey, a complete Jupiter 2. Depending on which scale of the ship you examine would determine the extent of the detailing involved.
My intent was to take all the previous work that had been done on the Jupiter 2 and expand on it, taking into account (as Ron Gross did) having to reconcile the outer hulls contours as accurately as possible, including all the detail possible to the exterior. We used extensive 16 mm footage from the series as well as high resolution photos (some of which are quite rare) and dimensions taken from casting of the restored original. Keep in mind that the restored original is still someone elses interpretation of how the ship should be restored back to as close as original as possible considering the extensive damaged it had sustained over the years.