Check this out.


http://www.rctech.net/events/snowbirds2004/index2.shtml

Yeah, unfortunately, there are no pictures of the car itself yet.

Curtis :thumbsup:

i saw it it has a transmission and four shocks with wide rear tires!!!
i did see it and it is a very well designed car.
eric

GET READY!!!!!!! IT will be dominating a track near you SOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!

The Custom Works pan car isn't anything special.
one piece chassis,associated frontend,typical rear pod set-up.

Polimeda,Duane Silva,Rob Cutman,Arnie Fie are the few guy's that are running them this week.

If its at all like there other products it will be top notch. They have the dirt oval covered.

If this project is for real and Jerry Landgraft is involved with the design and develoment, this should be the car to beat.

well i seriously hope it does not have a transmition... according to rules by sanctioning bodies all pan cars must have straight axle rear ends...


i also seriously hope custom works make the pricing decent.... if it cost as much as there dirt oval cars.. there not gonna sell many... i agree they have dirt oval covered, but how much dirt oval is left????.. im sure it will be a quality item as custom work always is...

Dirt oval is very popular in the north east still....and i wouldnt say they have it covered.....The Kranzels Terminator wins a lot of races..........

Ovalnator.......just to let you in on a secret. The Kranzels Terminator was none other the the original R & D Terminator (Rob and Dennis Cutman designed). Not trying to flame ANYONE, Daves car is a great gearbox car!!

Beach, i know!!! I race in central ny, back when the car was originally out, no one could get it to work good (in my area, not sure about else where...i was to young to travel out of state) I know when the 20degree car came out they worked a ton better! Personally, its the best dirt oval car ive driven....and now that Rob works for CW, im sure their new car will be really good.

I am taking a wild guess that Silva's had a major part in the design since they are running it and they are in the IRS booth this year.

wow silvas not associated any more.. hmmm car better be decent then if they are choosing to run it

Duane hasn't worked for Associated for awhile,Daryl is still with Associated as a Team driver.

I seen the CW oval pan car last week. It ran great and handles just as well. The one that was being tested that I saw was being run by Arnie Fie. It was giving Phil Marabella (full Trinity sponsored driver) all he could handle and then some.

Alomost every pan car out uses the Associated strut style front suspension. All these cars out only have minor differances anyways. They are all similiar.

As for the Kranzel Terminator. Rob Cutman was the one that continued ato design the car after he got it from his old motor sponsor back in the day. Dave Wilhem from QuarterFlash motors gave him the original car, which was a stock tubed RC10 with that wild bent up nose plate with a Sprint car body on it. Rob ran the car at the then JG Race in CA and destroyed the field with it. R&D Hobbies did all the research and development of the car. When Rob closed his shop only then did Dave buy the name and parts for the car.

Dave didn't even develop that lower caster front nose plate. Myron Rote ran a terminator with a noseplate that had about 10 degrees of caster instead of the stock one. He ran it at Kranzels track one time and crushed the track record. Dave said he COULD NOT RUN THAT NO MORE because it wasn't a part others could by. Then Dave stole the idea from Myron and had the front plates made like he developed them and then sold them. :mad:

Thanks Myron for really developing the the lower front nose plate. :thumbsup:

interesting info! Im actually in the process of building my own car, with an adjustable front kickup/castor system (not like the grand motorsports one that is useless (the shock tower stays stationary, so when the arms arent perpendicular to the shock tower, the shocks bind)) Its gonna be pretty sweet!!

interesting info! Im actually in the process of building my own car, with an adjustable front kickup/castor system (not like the grand motorsports one that is useless (the shock tower stays stationary, so when the arms arent perpendicular to the shock tower, the shocks bind)) Its gonna be pretty sweet!!Cool. As long as you don't run at Kranzels you would be ok. He don't let anything run their that he don't make or others can't buy. He wouldn't let me run my badger car from back in the day since the tranny setup they used was so much faster than any other car. Only car with a transmission to really be able to run with the direct drive CW vars back in the day.

I was told that the pan car was the prototype Trinity car from a few years back..... When Rob still worked for the big "T"..... I talked to some people at the birds so they can post pictures....

danny d

P.S. do you think Tony will run it at the Bud shootout?? hahaha

I was told that the pan car was the prototype Trinity car from a few years back..... When Rob still worked for the big "T"..... I talked to some people at the birds so they can post pictures....

danny d

P.S. do you think Tony will run it at the Bud shootout?? hahaha
To the best of my knowledge Rob is not designing too much of it. Arnie Fie who is going to work for CW is working on it.

whoops dont work......tried to put a file on.. check out the confrence they have pics of the new cw car on it... check the are u ready for the birds thread


http://www.deccosoftware.com/forum/theHost.htm

Let's try this....

OK I'll ask. Whats the body post layed down on the front bumper for? Adjusting the kickout on the nose i would guess (using my full scale knowledge). But then why the foam as well? If you want to adjust front downforce then they would be a touch farther out (toward the tire) wouldnt they?

Mike, sometimes when the air on the nose of the body is strong enough it can push on the center of the hood and cause the nose to lift up. The two body mounts on the bumper would hold the nose down. this may be why they are used on the car. Just my thought. :tongue:

who at the birds is running the car.. imjust curious to see how it fared.....

Arnie Fie is running it

Arnie (Superfied) Fie
Duane Silva
Frank Polimada
Rob Cutman

GO Arnie
DelaWHERE? boy!!!!!

I saw the car this past weekend and it is a sweet ride. :thumbsup: And most important it looked like it worked real well. I think their were 3 in the 6 cell mod show. Arnie, Frank P. and Tommy S.

From the pics it looks like they borrowed from the Hyperdrive SSE's front end (which is a good adjustable front end) and the rear pod/shock design is KSG-ish (which is also a good thing).

Looks like it will work and be fast.

When is the expected release date?

It's good to see Custom Works did pretty well at the snoowbirds.

Wyd:

I am curious when you raced at Kranzels. I have been there for over 10 years and never had a problem with Dave. I have been running experimental designs on my cars for years. Not once after winning points series and events has he ever said I couldn't run certain parts oor pieces. Actually the car has been upgraded since the R&D days and like any other form of racing most cars start from an idea not too much different than someone else's design. I remember Myron(where is he now?) because he helped me out when I was still just learning the ropes. Actually I bought one of his terms. I doubt it was the nose plate alone that broke the record back then, Myron always had the best of everything and as much as he helped others, there is always that worry that a driver would come in and dominate all drivers by several laps. As much as I hate to say that is how some drivers are turned away from a class when they just can't keep up...

Dave don't do that to everyone. Just like me, Myron, and few other select fast guys from back in the Day. Its a long story with Dave and it would take all day to explain. Some of his attitude is starting to show as his attendance is really down from what I have been told. The only real guys that have problems with Dave are guys that back in day would beat Dave, like Jim Beachly, Gearge Verbonitz, Myron Rote, Brian Burkhart, Jake Flurer, Trinity Racers, Kurt Shredder,and the list goes on.

Dave really dislikes me because at one time I had him almost closed because I had and still have alot of pull in the oval racing scene. He knows what I can do to him. He even tried to get a lawyer after me which did not work so don't think you are safe. I figure now I when people and new racers ask about tracks I send them to Newville, RCO, PitStop Hobbies, and Williamsgrove Hobbies instead. I don't even mention Daves anymore. I just don't bad mouth him but when people ask for my opinion and where to go I just leave him out.

As for Myron. HE still works for Goodyear out by Colonial Park. He runs is the manager their now and runs the show. He is into redoing his Camaro. It is very nice look to. :thumbsup: He also drag racers siome but mainly works on his Camaro for shows and I actually think he is starting on another car. I need to stop by to talk with him.

but doesnt tony own custom works now?????

Yes Tony Stewart did by Custom Works. A friend of mine Rob Cutman runs it for Tony.

Dave has an elitist attitude, he used to think he was the only show in town. Three years ago when someone was found to be running grease, he tried to kick everyone out of the building, who MIGHT be involved, even Tonys motor builder (who had no clue about the grease) After that, no more tony stewart race :cry: no more nationals :cry: no more attendence :cry: He even sent me an e-mail telling me I should take my "Custom works car and race somewhere else", so I did
Good riddence Dave.

Tony ran the car for one of the Custom Works guys in the 4 cell pro mod C or D main & was turning almost as fast of lap times as the "A" main guys. It was his first time on the track & he was driving someone elses car. He would have had 2 laps on the field by the end of the race but he dumped. He could have wheeled with the best of them if he had been there all week.

Yes Tony Stewart did by Custom Works. A friend of mine Rob Cutman runs it for Tony.

who is rob cutman?

WHO is Rob Cutman??? Man does that make me feel old LOL

It been great to see all the posts and interest about the new pan car on the various RC sites. Yes indeed Tony is our owner, and Rob Cutman is the general manager of Custom Works. As McLin points out, Rob has been a racer since the 80's when dinosaurs and Dominators roamed the Earth :D

As for the pan car... going into the race it was only a prototype and a way to particpate at the Snowbirds. However leaving Snowbirds with all the interest it generated and race results it earned, we are shooting for a time frame of atleast 2 months until release. Reason being the whole pan car idea started from scratch in the first week of Dec, leaving only 8 weeks to design, machine, and build. Only Tommy, Rob, and myself got to even practice just our 4 cell cars the week before Snowbirds. Now with that race under our belts, we have a little time to try some other ideas we feel will add more quality and adjustabilty to the kit.

Brent P: You are right, there were lots of fast cars besides ours stuck in lower mains due to what the weather did to the track. Tony did wheel Tommy "the Tire" Smith's ride around in the C or D main. Tony did ask how hard could he run it to make 4 minutes, Tommy said run it like stock....with a smile. Reason being it left him wide open for some fuel mileage jokes. :lol:

Brent P: You are right, there were lots of fast cars besides ours stuck in lower mains due to what the weather did to the track. Tony did wheel Tommy "the Tire" Smith's ride around in the C or D main. Tony did ask how hard could he run it to make 4 minutes, Tommy said run it like stock....with a smile. Reason being it left him wide open for some fuel mileage jokes. :lol:

Tony did an awesome job while it lasted & low & behold the Fuel Mileage jokes did fly. :lol:

Arnie

I resemble this remark: "Rob has been a racer since the 80's when dinosaurs and Dominators roamed the Earth" In 91 I purchased one of this first production Intimidator. Still have the car today. Placed third (Modified Stock Class) at the first US Open Wheel Dirt Championship Oct 91 at the Sugarbowl GA. At 60 years of life still actively RC racing and plan on purchasing your new pan car.

By the way name it the “olddinator” for Rob and the rest of the old guys still racing.


MikeB

Dave has an elitist attitude, he used to think he was the only show in town. Three years ago when someone was found to be running grease, he tried to kick everyone out of the building, who MIGHT be involved, even Tonys motor builder (who had no clue about the grease) After that, no more tony stewart race :cry: no more nationals :cry: no more attendence :cry: He even sent me an e-mail telling me I should take my "Custom works car and race somewhere else", so I did
Good riddence Dave.Typical Dave. If he had to pay rent on that building he wouldn't be like that. When you get if free you can do alot and that includes chasing guys away. Your not missing anything by not racing their. Newville is getting 50 to 85 guys a weekend during the spring and most by their car stuff at his shop now.

Arnie

I resemble this remark: "Rob has been a racer since the 80's when dinosaurs and Dominators roamed the Earth" In 91 I purchased one of this first production Intimidator. Still have the car today. Placed third (Modified Stock Class) at the first US Open Wheel Dirt Championship Oct 91 at the Sugarbowl GA. At 60 years of life still actively RC racing and plan on purchasing your new pan car.

By the way name it the “olddinator” for Rob and the rest of the old guys still racing.


MikeBMan I remember that race at teh SugarBowl. I was down with Rob at that time. 460 plus entries at that race and damn was it cold until the day we left. Go figure.

Good job at da'birds custom works guys. car looked really good and I should know. I had Rob's(car)in my hands more than he did :devil: . Also impressive drive by that young guy in the red sweatshirt with no practice at all. He looked like the guy in your magazine adds too. :jest: Congrats on the results and it had most people talking. some under their breath too. You're business future looks brighter than ever now.

[QUOTE=Arnie Fie]It been great to see all the posts and interest about the new pan car on the various RC sites. Yes indeed Tony is our owner, and Rob Cutman is the general manager of Custom Works. As McLin points out, Rob has been a racer since the 80's when dinosaurs and Dominators roamed the Earth :D

As for the pan car... going into the race it was only a prototype and a way to particpate at the Snowbirds. However leaving Snowbirds with all the interest it generated and race results it earned, we are shooting for a time frame of atleast 2 months until release. Reason being the whole pan car idea started from scratch in the first week of Dec, leaving only 8 weeks to design, machine, and build. Only Tommy, Rob, and myself got to even practice just our 4 cell cars the week before Snowbirds. Now with that race under our belts, we have a little time to try some other ideas we feel will add more quality and adjustabilty to the kit.

CONGRATS ARNIE & ALL CW TEAM......Job well done!!!!! :jest:

I have a big request to ask. Will you be kind to post a picture of your pan car (even if it is still "prototype) here for everyone to "drool" upon. Until we can get our hands on one? Please.... :p

I have a big request to ask. Will you be kind to post a picture of your pan car (even if it is still "prototype) here for everyone to "drool" upon. Until we can get our hands on one? Please.... :p

See the top of page two for pics! :thumbsup:

See the top of page two for pics! :thumbsup:

Is that Arnie's car ?

tony just talked about the birds and custom works on wind tunnel on speedchannel .

Donnie

Very cool BIG R/C plug :thumbsup:

yea, Mike Burke has been e mailing that guy who hosts the show all week to get him to ask Tony about it. I guess he did

Hey Tony was just on Speedvision and he was talking about the whole Custom Works thing and the snowbirds!!!!!! Pretty COOL

LAter,
Rick Liehr