Just figured I'd get our topic up and running here on Hanks old faithful site.

Going to be more than a month before we get racing again at Racers Edge R/C Racing and Hobbies but I'm already getting mine ready to go. Should be a good season because we'll have a few more people running this winter I think.

HEY!...I'm here, I think.
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I made it too guys, what happened over at About.dic ? Did they just pull it or was there contreversy?

Anyhow long live the BuRP!!!!!

Hey Boys how's it goin? Glad you made it here. We'll have to inform Jason and Donalbain of the change too. I don't know how many of our racers had an account on About, maybe that was it?

KSG, if you haven't, check out the discussion in the general area. Hank gives an explaination on why we're back to our "original" hangout. About decided to dump 300 sites due to $$ problems and we were one of the ones that got dumped(on).

K1M, change is sometimes good and smilies are something you better get used to. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif Weren't you on the old board or didn't you get on until Hank moved to About?

Welllll, I guess I found ya, soooo, are they getting rid of all the rc stuff at about?

Something that everyone that runs a BRP should check regularly is the left rear axle bushing. It wears alot quicker than the others and it's critical for keeping your spur/pinion gear mesh set. Even if there isn't much play in the bushing, make sure the bushing isn't turning in the motor plate. If it is, clean it with motor spray and then glue a new bushing in place with 2 drops of super glue. Be sure to have the axle spinning freely in the bushings to be sure they're lined up before you glue them to the motor plate.

Ovalman thanks for telling me where to go http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/wink.gif, to find what Hank said. That is a real bummer. Obviously, no one at about.com is a good business man, or they would see that those 2 sites brough a lot of people there. Well their loss.

K1m thanks for the tip on the bushing, I looked at mine and low and behold it was spinning in the motor plate. So off I go to fix it.

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Just checking in.

I'll be here Guys!!!!!

Glad to see everyone is making their way to Hobby Talk! Lets get down to some Q&A.
Bud - what's the word on the new 1/18 scale body? Also, any sign of a SC18/Fun Won kit yet? After your first impression of the micro RS4, do you think it's competitive with the SC18?

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Good question K1m, I have one to ponder, if someone gets an Micro RS4 should we allow them to race with us in the BuRP class? http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/confused.gif

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KIM
I shoud have the new body in two weeks, and I'am working on the SC18 Fun Wons!Yes we did test the Micro RS4! I feel we did a very fair test, the cars are about the same speed on 4 cell. The SC18 slightly faster at front of charge with the micro lasted about 5 min longer, however that is a new car and I was using a rental car that had raced during the summer. The SC18 total blew the micro away in handling seems that the micro has good front suspension and then absolutly no rear suspension which causes it to chatter bad on ashphalt. The same thing happened on carpet but it also wanted to roll over. The car was very slow on 4 cell carpet since we run 6 cell so we put a 6 cell pack in it and mounted it to the lower portion of chassis lower CG about 1/4". With this set up the car was not drivable, 4WD made no difference here.I'am sure the 4WD would be great on a slippery floor. Another thing they say you can use standard radio gear.I installed the JR Python system and it just fit under the BMW body, guess what no place for a lap counting transponder if you use them. If you look at all the pictures of the micro they have what I call racing size rec'v and a big $$ speed control. The nice things with the car are the body and the wheels. I actually made a set of inner wheel hubs for the SC18 and ran there wheels it looked cool.
I know it sounds like I'am crying here but I just want to tell the truth! Maybe we will see a review in one of the mags comparing both cars,I bet not!!!!!!! And another thing the cost difference is pretty much.
We are going to allow the car in our 1/18th series but they will not count for points.
I have another new BMW going on ebay asap.

I forgot to add this!

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that is one reason why i glad i bout a sc18 and didn’t weight for the micro rs4 to come out
i only have about $100 in the car plus battery and the only thing new in it is a rx crystal and battery and this car is a blast

Bud,

Just thinking out loud here...you should reconsider not allowing the micro to get points. It'd look good for you to treat them just as if it were AE and Losi running against each other in a race. If your cars were constantly winning, which, from your short review sounds like what would happen, that would be great for business. Just make it a run what ya brung 1/18th scale class unless there becomes a need to divide them up.

Later,
Will
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willk119
They maybe could run for points but I don't think they would score many!We will have to see how it goes. We are expecting to get 20 guys running in this series and BRP is giving out some nice prizes! Would HPI allow my TC3 to run in one of there challange cup races? I wish I could get Car Action or Extreme to do a heads up test! But then again HPI spends lots more $$ on ads than BRP. We will just keep pluging ahead and improve our line of cars.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by kanesurfguru:
Good question K1m, I have one to ponder, if someone gets an Micro RS4 should we allow them to race with us in the BuRP class?</font>

Well I dunno for sure. Our class IS called BRP 1/18 scale spec so I guess it would have to be discussed a little bit. I figure you'd be one of the first to get one. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/wink.gif I think Adam posed the question and at the time I said no probably not but if they show up I guess it's just bad business from my end to say they can't run huh?

Bud, good report on the micro. Maybe we could pass this on at our upcoming season. Hate to have somebody get stuck with an "ill handling" car that can't keep up with the BuRPs.

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OVALMAN
I hope sombody elese can get some time on one to back my statements up! I don't like saying negative things but I'am just speaking the truth.

Bud, Not sure if you had the same experence as me. I drove one at Chicago on carpet. What I found was that the rear end just wanted to snap on me. I'd turn the wheels more and more, then all at once the rear end would come around.

Bud how many raced at the last Brat event? I'll be there Sunday.

Ovalman: I think that if someone shows up at the track with a Micro RS4, or any other vehicle, for that matter, they should be welcomed and entered into any class avaliable like always. And what better class to run a 1/18 scale in than our BurP - "Just for Fun Class." I still say the more the merrier. Also, now that we'll have 4 or 5 Ladies racing, a "Powder Puff Derby" might be fun sometime.

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BUD: Thanx for your honest opinon, no one can ask for more than that!

2SLOWOO: Finally gonna get some seat (finger??) time in that SC18?

WILL: I agree with you. If they aren't competitive, they won't stay...if they are, it'll be fun racing with them. HPI makes KILLER 1/10 scale bodies too! It should be neat to see what they come up with for the micro.

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Hankster&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; I know what you mean! Those cars had the speed turned way down also, just think of that with 6 cell or 4 cell for that matter.
2 slowOO......... We had 9 racing last time, I think it will be up this week, Slim is coming and a few others bought new cars! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Bud I hope there is enough for a B main so I don't have to race you fast boys.

Bud I hope there is enough for a B main so I don't have to race you fast boys.

Kim.............I guess I couldn't agree with you more. I guess my major concern when I first heard about these things is that they would take over the class and be far superior to the BRP cars. Now I don't want to step on any toes here but even in our little "for fun" class we have those that are kind of "serious" about it at times and may decide that they'd rather spend more money on a micro than keep getting beat every week. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

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Ovalman: I say let them spend their money, we can settle it on the ozite.
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Bud,

Good point on your analogy of the tc3 racing in the HPI challenge. I hadn't really thought of it that way. I was just picturing that you were running a 1/18th scale class something like 1/10th off road. My thoughts were to just not divide them up in two wheel drive 1/18th, four wheel drive 18th, etc. unless it became necessary. I was thinking -"run what ya brung 1/18th scale" class.

On your statement of hoping someone else gets one and does a test. I bought one and am assembling it. I'll do a write up on my website after I get it going. No matter how bad or good it is though...I have absolutely no intentions of getting rid of the BRP's. In fact I still plan to get an sc-18...just kind of been waiting on a sc-18 fun won kit to come out http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Later,
Will
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Willk119
That sounds great http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif make sure you put a link to it here and also the Micro folder. I talked to Car Action, but they take a long time to do anything.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by k1m:
Ovalman: I say let them spend their money, we can settle it on the ozite.
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Hehe.......from what Bud says and the way these sc18 Fun Wons handle I think the money would be better spent on one of them anyway! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif Can't wait for carpet. Put a new motor in mine and man are those brushes hard! Going to take all season again to get them broke in. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/frown.gif Oh well, it will be ready for next summers racing. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Hey, any bodies yet? Going to get the one painted for XXTORv2 today and would like to get a couple BuRPs done too. No real hurry, if it gets to cold I always have the garage.

OvalmanPa dip your motor in water at 3 volts for 20 second intervals that should speed up your break in time.This is what the slot car god at parma says to do......

Ovalmanpa&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt; Just like mr parma said, water dip that motor! Make sure you spray it out good right after dipping it and pay close attention to the com slots, you don't want any build up in them. Another thing to do when you screw the motor in and adjust gear mesh pull the axle out and make certain the motor is not bound up, if it feels tight just tap on the pinion on the teeth not the end, this will line up the bushing.

Bud the paint job came out pretty good. It the 1st body i have paited in the 16 years of racing.I can't wait till Sunday at the Brat.

2slow00
I'll try not to run into you!
I think we will have a blast http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif Is Rich going to run touring?

Yes ,Rich is running touring only this season.We race with you guys this week and then one more Mid-West race next weekend. Then its the Brat or Toledo's neww track until next gas season.Don't forget I'm an easy pass.

Mr. Parma and Bud, I had thought about trying that but wasn't sure how many volts I should use. Now that I have something to go by and a pack that needs taken apart anyway I may just give it a try.

Didn't you do this with one of your Deathstar motors K1M?

OVALMAN: Bodys should be here by the weekend. Yes, I dipped a Deathstar with 7.2V until the brushes were broke in. It ran much better, but only for 5 or 6 runs....then the comm flew apart. The other Deathstars, seemed to last and run good. They were the cheapest motors we could buy last year. ($11) I'm sure Mr Parma knows the best way to break the motors in. Also I think the motors BRP sells are epoxy balanced, or something that the Deathstars weren't. Maybe he or Bud can tell us more about the difference between various 16d motors.
BUD: Thanx for the motor tip, I'll try that one for sure!
WILL: Is Stampedo here yet?

K1m
Yes the motors we use are epoxied to hold the wingings in place. They are also balanced. I have found that the more you run them the faster they get just don't get them too hot. We will have the 52 tooth spur gears soon and they give the car lots more bottom end.

Guess who has a Mini Z for sale!

BRP is selling a MiniZ on Ebay? lol

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How do I setup the tweak on a Burp?

Do the Fun Won tires fit a SC 18?

Speed Tip-
It made a major improvement in cornering when I filed flat spots on the rear axle for the set screws

K1M,

The first night I saw the about.com board was closing and everything was moving here, I let Dan (Stampedo) know so I'm sure he's been visiting...just not posting yet. He farms and I think he's been really busy with that lately.

Later,
Will
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DubyaFO
We have a Micro RS 4 on ebay http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif the mini Z went long ago! The fun wons tires will not fit on the SC18, But if you have a Fun Wons we sell a chassis converson kit. I hope to have the SC18 Fun Wons ready by Nov.

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How do I setup the tweak on a Burp?

Do the Fun Won tires fit a SC 18?

Speed Tip-
It made a major improvement in cornering when I filed flat spots on the rear axle for the set screws</font>

Setup of tweek on a O.O. or Fun Won is done basically like this. Take a pencil and lift the rear of the car. If one wheel lifts before the other, grab the front and rear of the car and actually "twist" the chassis the opposite direction a slight amount and test again. Now the SC18 Fun Won conversions I've seen if put together right seem to have zero tweek right from the get-go.

I haven't really looked at a new SC18 yet but if they are set up at all like the old Oval Outlaws then no, the Fun Won wheels will not fit.

Bud I chased the dog and cat around the house with the BRP car. I'm ready for the Brat.

2slow00
Keep that dog and cat fur out of the bushings http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif I used to do that with my dog but he would catch the car pick it up and run off with it! See you sunday and by the way I might have the first place trophy on display if I can get it in the truck!

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by k1m:
Ovalman: I think that if someone shows up at the track with a Micro RS4, or any other vehicle, for that matter, they should be welcomed and entered into any class avaliable like always. And what better class to run a 1/18 scale in than our BurP - "Just for Fun Class." I still say the more the merrier. Also, now that we'll have 4 or 5 Ladies racing, a "Powder Puff Derby" might be fun sometime.

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I agree with both K1m and Ovalmanpa, they should be able to join in the races at the track with the Micros and Tamaiya's, like you let happen last year Rick. But I think once any of them try a BuRP SC18 Funwon conversion, they would rather spend less money and have a lot more fun. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Just my two cents.

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Bud will you have the strobe lights and speakers attached to the trophy?

Well we had a great turnout at the race today, 73 total racers with 11 running 1/18th BRP's http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif And as always we all had a blast I only won by about 6" after a race long battle. Took the first place trophy to show off it's 7 ft tall,WOW!! I would have made it taller but it would not fit in the winners house. Testing showed that the new 52 tooth gear is the way to go, even on the SC18 that has smaller tires.

Bud what a blast running the BRP car. What was that slow ill handling white car that Pat Barber was racing????????????????