Mr Clean>>>>>>> Make sure you have a black spacer on the axle opposite the gear side. Also make sure the wheels are on with the deeper offset towards the center of the car.

Mr clean: Maybe this will help.......
http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/kburp2.jpg

[This message has been edited by k1m (edited 12-22-2001).]

Is this the new Fun Wons?

http://abacus.sj.ipixmedia.com/abc/M28/25de2fafea7bb1e53e757ea720/i-4.JPG

Nope, that's the original Fun Won chassis. The new one is almost identical to the SC18 chassis (blue fiberglass with t-plate).

Speedster: That's the older style Fun Wons that has a black chassis. It's a great little car that we put MANY miles on with very little maintenance or breakage. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif
The newer style SC Fun Wons have the blue chassis like the SC18.
More 1/18 Scale BuRP Pit Tips (http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/BRPittips.html)

http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/wavingflag.gif
BRP- PROUDLY MADE IN THE USA

ok thanks!!!

Everyone seemed more intent on getting more laps this week, and it payed off with nearly half the field on the same 30 lap run. I sat out the 2nd heat to try and take some pix. Mike was coerced into driving my car since his son was driving his. Must be he liked it because he will be driving a new SC Fun Won next week. Looks like we'll have 2 new BuRP racers next week.
Most of the pix I took sucked, but I did get this shot of this weeks BuRP drivers here at Racers Edge.
http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/gangb.jpg

Left to right - Stark, John(Kanesurfguru), Johna, Barb(Snookie), Rick(Ovalman), Don(Donalbain), Joy, Mike, & Ben.

OOOOHHHHH MAN! You just HAD to run right home and upload that pic to the web didn't you? I figured I'd get a least one night before you went showing our ugly mugs on the internet! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Ya'all will notice K1M convieniently wouldn't let anyone else take the pic so he could be in it too!! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif

Great day of racing. I still can't keep up with K1M and KSG but I'm having fun anyway. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

[This message has been edited by OvalmanPA (edited 12-23-2001).]

Actually Ovalman, I did ask Tom to take a couple of shots, but they didn't come out very good. I think it's neat that big or small, young & old, all have a good time knocking it out in the BuRP class.
Notice how the Manufacturers Banners show up? Sure wish I had a BRP Banner...Hint,hint! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

K1M>>> OK who is who in that picture???

K1M........yea sure, that's the excuse! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/wink.gif

Bud.......ya gotta look under the pic, K1M listed all of us there. Except his mug of course. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

hey guys, i just ordered the SC-18 and it should be here next week... or should i say next year.

hey guys, i just ordered the SC-18 and it should be here next week... or should i say next year.

Ovalman >>> Thanks I guess I should read http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Hope everyone had a Merry Christmas and that Santa brought everyone BRP goodies. One of our visitors was a 9 year old(Bradley) with a brand new R/C "just like mine." Actually it was a 1/12 scale BMW made by a company called Ertl. He was dying to show it to me as he's seen all my R/C's several times. I was surprised at it's soft rubber tires and smooth feeling diff. It had a very detailed body molded out of hard styrene plastic. He just happened to have a battery pack all charged up so as soon as I could get a pack for my BRP, we ended up out on the patio. Now there's not alot of traction on 20 degree concrete, but I was suprised how well my Fun Won handled. Bradley's still having alittle trouble with reverse view and he's having to learn with a 2 stick radio, but he's catches on fast (he's an avid video gamer). His dad and I talked about what's needed to get started with a BRP but now I'm not sure if he meant for Bradley or for him! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

boy do we look good or what yeah i finally made it in here i think i did anyhow

Holy cow! Look what the cat dragged in. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Hey Starkie - 'atta boy! Glad to see you found your way here. Old KSG drops in too once in a while if we taunt him alittle. There's lots of good go fast tips in the earlier posts, so be sure to scan through all of them. You might find something interesting on my Pit Tips page too:

http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/BRPittips.html

I'm thinking about making a web page where we can post pix of everyone's BRP racers because some people have a hard time posting pix here. Any suggestions?
Also I'm gonna have to see if I can get a link to my pages on Bud's Web site.
You guys that race at the Brat must be getting itchy trigger fingers by now, huh?

http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/vw.gif

K1m :::I'll tell Hank to add your web site to BRP. Your right I'am ready to do some racin !

hey guys, i've already created a 1/18 scale website. it has a lot of features including gallery, tips, reviews and eventually a message board like this. I will launch it on January 1 coz there is still some more work to do. But for now, if you are interested, send your pictures to me so I can add it on the gallery. You can email it to admin@lubong.com. Also, if you have good tips for the 1/18 scale, email it to me in an article format so I can add those as well. Of course your name will be on there to give you credit for it. Ok guys, Happy New Year to you all!!!

Well, sorry it has taken me so long to get back to this forum. Thanks for the responses but the problem still persists. I kinda took offence to the statement about making sure I have the wheels on right! Anyhow, I have seen some pictures on the net that look as though they have the same problem that I have. Is the car designed this way? Is it a defect? Should I shim the left wheel or dremel down the spacer on the right side? If someone could post a pic from above the fun won, I would appreciate it.

My servo doesn't fit http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/frown.gif

I just got my SC18 and I am almost done building it. My only problem now is my servo is too big. I have a Hitec HS-525BB. What kind of servos are you guys using?

That servo should fit. You do know you have to cut the "ears" off in order to put a servo on the car right? http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

I think most of us at our track are using "cheapy" servos (Futaba 148, 3003, etc) with much success and the 525 is no larger than these to my knowledge.

Mr. Clean.......this pic ( http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/kburp2.jpg ) was no help to you? There should be a black spacer (3/8" maybe?) on the right side between the hub and the bushing and IF anything on the left side, only a small clear nylon spacer.

Mr Clean >> Sorry you took offense to the reply asking if the wheel was on the correct way! I have had people that did that and I was just trying to help. By the way if you don't know I own BRP and designed all of the cars http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif The rear track should not be offset if it is just shim the side out to equal it up.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by OvalmanPA:
That servo should fit. You do know you have to cut the "ears" off in order to put a servo on the car right? http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

I think most of us at our track are using "cheapy" servos (Futaba 148, 3003, etc) with much success and the 525 is no larger than these to my knowledge.</font>hehehe, yeah, I just missed that step from the manual (DUH!) Anyway, I got it all fitted except for the motor. I'm gonna do some soldering today. I also tried my HPI BMW body and it seems ok, so I'll probably use that for now.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Mr Clean:

I noticed that the rear track isn't equal from the center to the outside of each wheel. When measuring from the center of the rear chassis above the engine, the distance is longer to the outside of the right wheel than to the left wheel. Seems like this would make the car turn much sharper to the left than right. Is this supposed to be this way or am I missing something? Any help would be appreciated.</font>

Mr Clean: Having a Fun Wons wheel on backwards is a pretty common mistake. I've wondered how well it would work to reverse the right side to oval race.
How far off center is yours?

I know you have a Fun Won, but what color is the chassis? If it's blue, then the distance from the rear center screw to outside of wheels is 2 11/16 inches as close as I can tell. If it's black, I don't know the exact distance but it should be centered for sure.
Are you running the optional ball diff? The only other thing I can think of would be a problem with one of the hubs.
We can figure this out, but more info is needed.

P.S.
Once I lent Ovalman my Fun Won so he could see how it was made. I had just had it apart and when I put it back together I left the spacer out by mistake. Heheheh! I should have told him it was my "secret setup"! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

Yea...........right............hot setup....... http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/wink.gif It did look AWEFUL funny without that spacer in there though. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Another good day of racing at RER/CR&H (http://users.penn.com/~morg/track.html) even though our track record holder (K1M) wasn't there (dang work huh?). Another even 10 BuRPs at the track this week. I think if we get everybody there we should have almost enough for two FULL heats of 10. Don took the main with KSG hot on his heels. The track seems to have slowed down some from the first of the year so we'll probably have to wait for a warm spell to get up in the track record range again.

Bud, yes I know you are the owner and designer. I may have just over-reacted to what you said. I have several cars and was somehow thinking that you knew this. Anyhow, I have checked everything and it is exactly as it is supposed to be. I am going to do what you suggested and just mod the spacer on the right side to bring it in it closer to the center.

I have the fun won with the blue chassis. My wife got it for me for Xmas.

Yes, the pic did help!

Bud, I think it is awesome that you are here to help the people who buy your products. I wish other organizations had such a high level of customer support. Thanks...

MrClean &gt;&gt;&gt; sounds good hope you get it all straightend out.
ALL &gt;&gt;&gt; We ran the 1/18th scale cars today in Toledo. It was a big track and all had a good time. There were 7 BRP cars and 2 Micros. I won http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif
HAPPY NEW YEAR to ALL!!!!!!

Here's my newly built SC18. I got some more pics and i'll try to show it later.

http://www.lubong.com/speedster/images/sc18/speedster18_3.jpg

Oh, by the way, I just finished my website dedicated for 1/18 scale cars. It features Micro RS4 and BRP SC-18. You can view it at http://www.lubong.com/speedster . It is still in beta version but for now, you can send me all your pictures to admin@lubong.com and I'll post them on my gallery. Also, don't forget to visit the Micro Reviews section and write a review for the BRP cars. If there is anything else that I need to add for the BRP section, please let me know. Also if you find any bugs or errors, please notify me.

Thanks,
SC Speedster

I finally got my SC18 and am looking forward to completing it. I am disappointed with the durability of my HPI Micro and I think the BRP will be much more durable and raceworthy. Our 18th scale track opened last Sunday and we had 15 HPI's show up. I qualified 2nd with my Micro and finished 4th after my front differential and left steering knuckle broke.
I'm prepping my SC18 for this Sunday. I'm hoping that my ball diff and 5/16 X 1/8 ball bearings arrive before Friday. Here's a pic of both of my cars. I'm planning to mount my ESC and RX directly on the fiberglass to keep the COG as low as possible. Also, I'll be running a 6-cell NIMH AAA pack. They're 1/2 the weight of AA packs and have 650 MAH's of capacity.

One question -- is the motor a 6V or 12V based motor?
http://www.racerhobbies.com/photos/118.jpg

Thanks.

Jon

dme328i: Nice paint, man! I'm sure you're going to be happy with the SC18. I don't quite understand why all the micro hopups that are coming out are pretty colors and titanium everything, but don't deal with the suspension (or lack of). The ball diff is a good investment for your BRP and so is a servo saver. You may have to sand down the axle to get it to fit in the bearings. Definately mount all your electronics right on the chassis to keep the weight low.(Check out mine here: http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/BuRPix.html) We are only allowed to run AA's at our local track, but let me know how the AAA's work anyway, I've heard N size works good too.
If you're racing 15 other Micro's next weekend with your SC18, mine money is on YOU!!

BRP motors are 16d slot car motors that I believe are 12v - You'll get better performance if you don't over gear.



[This message has been edited by k1m (edited 01-02-2002).]

dme328i&gt;&gt; I posted on the other thread. I see you already cut out the radio plate so go for it. Let us know how many laps you win by at your next race with the BRP car http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Thanks for the info guys.

The AAA NIMH's have been great. Even with a hot motor (comparatively speaking) like a Speed 300, they've had no problems pumping out the amps. I use 18 ga. single strand copper for the bars. I'll be running in the open class, so I plan to make a 6, 7 and 8 cell pack to try out. I also use 2/3 A NIMH packs and have had a lot of luck. I prefer the AAA because they lie very flat.

I'll post some pics of our raceway. We have an awesome track! It's prepped concrete with green infield and surround area that has been waxed. I'll bring my digital camera this Sunday and take a pic to post.

Speedster&gt;&gt; Nice web site! Would it be OK to put a link to it from our web site?

Yes you may Bud. But it will have a new home on its official launch date on January 7. Link it to http://www.teamspeedster.com. I would like to ask you guys to fill in the reviews for BRP cars before the Micro owners do http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Just about ready to rock n roll. I put in the ball diff. I've got my electronics mounted right on the chassis. I'm making some battery packs. I can't wait till Sunday. Guess where my Micro is? It's sitting in a box waiting for front-end parts. I'll probably put it on eBay when I get the front al. hub carriers put on. Wish me luck Sunday. I'm getting ready to paint my F40 now.

Jon
http://www.racerhobbies.com/photos/brp.jpg

dme382I .. Go get them http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif fill us in on how thing go.

Bud: What can you tell us about the Mura group 20 motor? Is it a different wind slot car motor?

dme328i: What kind of batterys are those in your pic?

K1M &gt;&gt;&gt; Will try it sunday and let all know what it do.

k1m, I have the mura group 20 in my buds car and love it. Pretty fast, but I need to re gear it for more bottom end. I'm running my 6 cell AA 1600maH battery pack in it now. Seems like run times are maybe 10-15 min. I might be racing tomorrow at my local track. I was there testing it out yesterday with my brother and it's really nice.

Hildy

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by k1m:
dme328i: What kind of batterys are those in your pic?</font>
k1m,

Those are 2/3A 1000MAH. Orion Knock Offs as I call 'em. My car's ready to go. I'll take a pic of the line up tomorrow, so you guys can see what I'm up against. Btw, I forget to mention that we race in Springfield, MO -- Hobbies in Motion Raceway. You'll be impressed with the track. Look at all my Orion Knock Offs that I made. I can't see paying $38 for 6 -- 2/3A NIMH cells, so I made myself. You think I have too many. Look at my secret weapon -- the bottom pack which is 8.4V and fits perfectly.

http://www.racerhobbies.com/photos/lot.jpg

Jon

One other note, I'm running the stock ball diff spur and decided to run the 7T pinion. The motor doesn't seem to be torquey enough to run a 9T. Other specs:

KO Propo Mars EX-1 (Better than M8's)
KO Micro RX
Futaba 230CR (Reverse locked out)
Radio Tray cut to hold batteries only
Stock tires and springs
I'll run 7.2V and 8.4V packs tomorrow.

Any suggestions for a long, tight, highly technical track (you'll see what I mean when I link a pic tomorrow)?

hey guys, if you have any upcoming event related to SC 18 or Fun WONS, email them to me at admin@teamspeedster.com and I will post them to my website.

Group 20 motor test&gt;&gt;&gt; Well guy's I ran the group 20 it was a Mura. ran with our standard 700mah AA 6 cell pack geared 52/8 It was SLOWWWW!!!! It turned out to be 1 second a lap slower than the stock kit motor per lap. My opinion save your money!
I beleive it was the batterys not being able to put on the current needed to get it going. I'am going to try and fit a speed 300 in for the next race to test.
We had 18 1/18th racers today I was TQ but a first turn wreck blew a wire off of the speed control. Pat took the win with Dan second to keep the points race tight. 2slowwOO good job on making the A main, you also marioP! Running 10 cars was a blast once I got back on the track. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif



[This message has been edited by BudBartos (edited 01-06-2002).]

Nine racers lined up this week at Racer's Edge and the racing was as fierce as ever. I managed to break away from the pack early and ended up TQ with 31 laps. (The record is 32laps) Most everyone seems to have overcome their radio glitches, which makes it more fun for everyone. In the second heat, I managed to T-bone a corner marshalls foot at full speed which shut off the switch on my ESC. Seems like I had more trouble avoiding the marshalls this week than other cars. I'll have to remount my switch turned around the other way so that won't happen again.
Ovalman won the main with 31 laps - way to go Rick! It was a long time coming for him. I got 2nd, Don 3rd, with Chris, Mike, Dennis,Joy, Barb & Cory filling out the field.
There were some racers there from Pro Speedway in NY. and they were VERY impressed and interested in the 1/18 scale action. I wouldn't be suprised if they get in on it to. I almost hope they get micros though just so we can put the whoop on them! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif