Bud: Where's the NORCAR site? I tried www.norcar.com (http://www.norcar.com) and got a farm machinery site. Do they have any BRP stuff there besides your points, like pics of your mini racers?
I'm going to try and post a pic here of ours, hope it works.
http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/belch.jpg

[This message has been edited by k1m (edited 10-23-2001).]

K1m
The norcar site is http://www.the-big-al.com/norcar/
There are some pics but none of 1/18th. We have two guys that are running SC Fun Wons

Bud: wait till this weekend, my b-main win was only the begining
dan medved

you do know I have the big truck with the 8 foot bed!!!!

Tang, how many years have you been driving that truck?

Does anyone use the dropping bulb to charge their packs ? What is the # of the bulb and how long are the charge times while using a simple timer like a Hobbico 900 .
Thanks,
Raz

We tried using a dropping bulb when we first got our BRP's. I think my old Protek would still charge them between 2-3 Amps and it only took 12-15 min. Keep your eye on pack temperature, as soon as it starts to get warm, take it off.
I only charge mine at .75-1.0 Amp now and it takes about 50 minutes.(peak) But I think the batterys like it alot better! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

Bud did you make it to Toledo?

WOW!!! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif what a turnout today. We had 18 racers in the BRP class and there was some great racing. I think we may hit 20 to 25 next week if everyone that has a car runs.
Maybe it's time for the 1/18th scale world champs????
Report from Florida 1/18th race one BRP car 3 Micro RS 4 cars BRP wins buy 5 laps http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/eek.gif
Later

Great turnout at East Lake. Bud thanks for your help with my BRP car. Soon there will be more BRP cars than 12th scale.

Does anyone have a picture of the new BRP Corvette body that they could post or email?

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by bud bartos:
WOW!!! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif what a turnout today. We had 18 racers in the BRP class and there was some great racing. I think we may hit 20 to 25 next week if everyone that has a car runs.
Maybe it's time for the 1/18th scale world champs????
Report from Florida 1/18th race one BRP car 3 Micro RS 4 cars BRP wins buy 5 laps http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/eek.gif
Later</font>

Had fun beating the Mircos yesterday. One even tried to take the belt off and make it a 2wd car - still beat him.Next weekend its Orlando to Superior Hobbies - Victory.

BRP is the ticket.Had fun beating the 3 Mirco's.Next weekend it Orlando to Superior Hobbies for the first 1/18th scale race.Victory.............

Ae racer
Check our web site on 11-1-01 it will be there then with all the new stuff. http://BRPracing.com

Bud when will the pictures from the Brat be posted?

Bud- about the new stuff is there any new suprises that you have cooking up for us??


BTW: is there any doubt as to who is the king of small scale??? let's see

MINI-Z- 31 posts across 3 topics
Micro RS4- 34 posts- 1 topic
BRP- 124 posts- 3 topics

Gee I wonder!!!! Faster- handles better- looks cooler- doesn't need special equiptment- BRP's rock and i don't see anyone building a better car.......at least til' they reinvent the wheel or Bud hit's the drawing boards agian!!!!LOL

Got my first BRP yesterday the SC18 . Looks GREAT ! I am impressed Bud, my daughter and I will get it put together this weekend. Looks like a really fun car. Anyone willing to help me out on email or AOL instant messenger if I have any questions ?
Thanks,
Raz

What does everyone use for a charger ? Do I have to go out and buy a new charger ? I am running the basic hobbico 900 for my backyard bashing. I will be starting out with the 4 cell battery pack. I as alot of home hobby builders getting into a new level would like to keep the cost down starting out. I plan on placing an order for my electronics in a couple of days.Does this package look like everything would fit and a good deal ?

Futaba 2PC 2 Channel AM/1 S3003/MC230CR
800-637-6050

Manufacturer FUTABA
Manufacturer Stock# 2PC/MC230
Product Category 2-Channel Radios - AM Pistol






LXUY19** Futaba 2PC 2 Channel AM/1 S3003/MC230CR 79.99

This is Futaba's 2PC Magnum Sport 2-Channel AM Pistol Grip Radio
with One S3003 Standard Servo and One MC230CR Speed Control.

FEATURES: This replaces the 2PB Magnum Sport Radio.
Rotary steering and throttle trims.
Three LED battery condition indicators.
Lightweight and ergonomic design reduces fatigue and improves control
Servo reversing switches hidden behind smoked panel.
Speed control operates stock 20-27 turn motors in both forward and
reverse with a reverse disable feature which makes it legal for
ROAR racing. Also has a low battery feature which cuts motor power
when battery level becomes too low.

INCLUDES: One 2PC AM Transmitter w/TX battery holder: No Number
One R122JE AM Receiver: FUTL26**
One MC230CR Speed Control: FUTM0922
One Crystal Set: FUTL92**(75MHz) or FUTL93**(27MHz)
One Receiver Battery Box w/red BEC connector: FUTM1590
One S3003 Servo: FUTM0031
One Servo Accessory Bag: FUTM3551
One Flag Set: No Number
One Switch Harness: FUTM4382
One TX Antenna: FUTM5111
One Pot Adjustment Screwdriver: No Number
Battery Holder: No Number

REQUIRES: Eight AA batteries (EVEP1205).


Thanks so much guys for you help. Is this a new ESC that is replacing the old ESC-100 ?

Yikes !
I see that the specs on the ESC says 6-7 cells. Will they work on 4 cells or what happens ?
Thanks,
Raz

RAZ- the esc may work, the reason I say may is that both the Duratrax esc-100 and futaba mc-210b are only rated at 6-7 cells, but we know they both work with 4.... I don't want to give you bum info so I won't say totally one way or the other. I will say if you get the futaba radio with only one servo then get the esc-100 it will work.

Impact,
Is this the setup you are running or have seen run before ?
Thanks again,
Raz

raz:I'm sure you will be happy with the Futaba setup. Can't say for sure about the Mc230 running on 4 cells or not. My advise is to try it and go ahead an go will 6 cells if it doesn't work. You will soon anyway, I bet. Just don't squeeze the trigger so hard! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif
How big of an area are you planning on running on?

Raz: We sell a battery dropping bulb harness that will lower the charge current from that charger for the AA cells #450 retail $9.95
I don't know about that new futaba speeder? I do Know that all others out there will work except the little airtronics. The old Futaba speed controls wold not work on 4 cell so I'am not sure about that new one. Maybe Just go with a Tower Hobbies radio I know those speed controls work and the radio with revers was onlt like $ 85.00

My dad is running the MC210 on 4 cells and hasn't had a problem as of yet, currently I am personally running aN LRP runner from a TC3 RTR, the only draw back is it doesn't have a brake...DOH!!!

What does everyone use for battery bars for their home made packs ? Buy the ones with tabs , button tops or flat tops ? And what MAH for the packs ?
Thanks again guys,
Raz

Raz,
I use 600mah Sanyo Transmitter style batteries. I glue them together using Shoe Goo, then solder the cells in series with silver braided wire. Then add wires and a connector. I have found this to be a very cost effective and efficient way of assembling the battery packs.

<font face="Verdana, Arial, Helvetica" size="2">Originally posted by Raz Barlow:
What does everyone use for battery bars for their home made packs ? Buy the ones with tabs , button tops or flat tops ? And what MAH for the packs ?
Thanks again guys,
Raz</font>

I'm using fairly stiff 18awg wire to put my cells together along with using strapping tape to help stiffen them up. I think K1M uses solid house wire flattened out to put his together but I'm not sure. As far as button, flat, or tab. Most anything will work. I wouldn't spend the extra on the tabs though since you'll probably take them off anyway. The green cells most are using at our track don't have much of a button but seem to go together well anyway. Just watch you don't split the shrink on the cell and short it out when you put them together. MAH is up to you. The higher they are, the longer you can run. The cells we are using are 1200 NiMH cells.

Does anyone know how thick the battery bars are for the SubC battery packs. Do you think if I built a die to produce battery bars for the AA packs for the BRPs. Do you think I would be able to sell any, or is it a shot in the dark ? I don't want to spend this wekend building a die for parts that no one needs.

thanks,
Raz

Hi Raz: I'm using battery bars made from flattened out ground wire of 12-2 Romex. I hammer it flat until it's 1/8 inch wide. Clean the wire with steel wool or something before and after hammering and cut them 3/4 inch long before you try and solder them to the batterys. I tin the battery contacts first so I don't get the cells any hotter than necessary to get a good solder joint. A "customized" battery holder from Radio Shack helps hold the cells while I'm soldering.
We're using 1200 mah NIMH AA's that make the little devils fly for 10-12 minutes!
<A HREF="http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/BuRPhome.html" TARGET=_blank>
My 1/18 Scale Racing web page has moved HERE</A>


[This message has been edited by k1m (edited 11-02-2001).]

Hey all you BRP racers see a picture from the last norcar club race here It's on the bottom of the page http://www.the-big-al.com/norcar/pictures4.htm


[This message has been edited by bud bartos (edited 11-02-2001).]

So what is the big difference in the Fun Ones and the SC18 ? I know that the chassis look different but is there a drastic difference in handling/performance ? Is a beginner going to still have fun with the Fun Ones ? Also, are the fun ones able ro race in the same class as the SC18 ?
Thanks,
Raz

Another great turnout in Eastlake. 18 BRP cars. Look for 25 or more in 2 weeks. It was fun with 9 cars per heat. It made for a lot of passing and racing action. Good wrecks too!

K1m how has the racing been with you Guy's?
Ours here in Cleveland has been awsome.
2slow00 great job on you A main finish http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif Sold another 3 kits, we could have up to 30 racing if all would run at one time. Maybe that will happen after the champs.

These BRP cars are a blast! Thanks 2sloww00 for nagging me into getting one. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif Sooner or latter 2sloww00 we are going to be able to race each other until then I will have to be content knocking Don off the track! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Bud.......just ran our first race of the year yesterday. Had 11 cars show up for the first week! K1M whooped on us all. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif He ran a 31 pace compared to my 28 and the third place drivers 28. It appears that the 52t spur has a real advantage in the torque department. I'm still using the 46 and he could really pull me everywhere on the track.

Visit Racers Edge R/C Racing and Hobbies (http://users.penn.com/~morg/track.html) shortly for full results.

Raz.........the major difference between the SC18 and the Fun Wons is the chassis and the wheel size. The SC18 uses a pretty small wheel and the Fun Wons use a 1/12 scale size wheel. The chassis are also different in that the SC18 uses a blue fiberglass chassis and the Fun Won uses a kydex chassis material. This has all changed now though because Bud has Fun Won SC18s that come with the blue chassis. Oh yes, the Fun Wons are also a little wider. As to if they can run with each other in a race? We have mostly Fun Wons (Kydex and fiberglass chassis) racing at our track but there were also 2 people running SC18s. So yes they are both competitive with each other.

Thanks Bud. Mario get to work! I'll see you tomorrow if your still going to Areo Tech?

Bud: Our first week of carpet racing was last weekend, Ovalman has the stats. Very happy with the 52t spur - that matches our track ALOT better! And motor temp was much lower.
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/wink.gif
To be honest, our track layout has changed this year, so 31 laps is just the start. I'm sure we can do better. We had some new racers (Truck class)this week who had never seen BRP cars before and they were VERY interested. Some of them also race pancars, and they were impressed with the SC Fun Wons.
We also did something different this year, with 11 racers and 10 transponders, Rick setup two mains instead of running us all together. I think it'll work out better this way for everyone, although the "swarm" isn't as cool.(we all chase each other around in circles after the race is over......) http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

2slow00, we be teching around 10:00 http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif

K1M- What brand of batteries are the green 1200mah NiMH ? Where can I purchase them?
Thanks,
Ross

I'll be racing my BuRP this coming Sunday, so that will add to your car count!

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AERacer: We don't really know what the green AA's are, we call them "Kryptonites". We certainly don't need 1200mah in the BuRPs to run 5 minute races, but I've found that the voltage stays alot higher at the 4-5 minute mark than with the 700mah Sanyos I was running. I must have bought 5 dozen of these cells from KaneSurfGuru over the last year. They seem to hold up and I'm using them in the BuRPs and my transmitters.
Jason: Get "Da Bug" fixed up, I'll bet you'll like 2 mains better, but we gotta have more than 10 racers.

Hey all you racers interested in 1/18th scale racing http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif
Check out our latest kit!!!

www.BRPracing/112.html (http://www.BRPracing.com/112.html)

[This message has been edited by bud bartos (edited 11-08-2001).]

Bud good luck racing at the Dive Shop this weekend. How many 4 cell pack did you make up? See you at the Brat. You guys from PA. should come over some Sunday. Or maybe we could meet somewhere in the middle and have a shoot out.

2slow...........that would be cool but we run Sundays too and being track owner I can't go anywhere come Sunday but the track. http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

K1M - Since the batts last quite a some time has anyone considered running longer races? I was thinking of trying to get some guys to run say 12 or 15 minute races.

OvalmanPA maybe we can work it out at a later date. These cars are great. I raced 10th gas onroad this summer and this is like a vaction. Every thing in one bag and no mess.

RDUNCAN:We still run 4 minute heats in the rest of the classes, but the BuRPs run 5 min. But when we're practicing or just playing, we do run that long. The motors used to get really hot but running the 52t spur has helped that alot.

2SLOOW:"Eastern BRP 1/18 Scale Nationals", huh? Hehehe! I'd probably be crazy enough to meet you halfway to rub off some of your paint. I'm sure it'd be quite a time! they are like a Vacation, too...makes you remember that it's supposed to be FUN!

Bud: Nice pix on the_big_Al's site!You look good rubbing elbows with the mayor. You've got quite a crew there in Ohio. We're pretty lucky to still have our local track here after so many years, we've made alot of good friends.

Got my new Futaba 2PCKA radio setup with MC230R ESC. I sure hope it works on 4 cells. I guess I will hopefully find out this weekend . Man, these ESC are small ! Well, I am readng the manual right now, so I know what to do. Just wanting to let everyone know I am getting closer.
Thanks,
Raz

We raced the 1/18th BURP in Toledo friday nite. The guys there had never seen them run and they were impressed http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif We only had 6 racers with some of the fastest racers in the country trying some laps after each heat.By the way I won YA HOOOOOO I also ran my touring car,wow that thing is BIG after just running 1/18th this season and having to work on the TC3. I like the 1/18th much better simply no hassle fun.

Lets see if I am understanding this correctly. I am adding my radio system in the BRP this afternoon. I ordered the Futaba system mentioned above. Please help me out here guys. O.K. , by the directions and the pics, it look like the steering servo mounts on its side, my servo arm has four arms on it. So I am going to have to at least trim off one that hits the chassis bottom or maybe just trim off three of the four tabs. I am going to have to lay it on its side with the servo arm on the left side ( driver's side )with the arm straight up and center .


Which also means that I will have to trim off the servo mounting plates as they will hit the steering arms correct ?


Then I run one tierod end into the steering arm and one into the remaining servo arm and connect them with the collar with a set screw in it.

Please correct me if I am wrong,
I would really like to have this zipping around the house by tomorrow.
Take care all you BuRPs,
Raz