Bud I'm bring our motor zapper for the next race, have you ever tryed to zap one of your motors? I wounder what it would do.

Dan :D

Best to try the cars first without bearings!

Hey guys here is a good one. I just got a email from HPI purchasing dept. They were asking if we still produce the SC18 since she could not find one at the LHS. I told her she could not find one because they have Micros stacked to the ceiling.
What do you think they want with that car?
I'll tell you one thing they are going to pay full price for it if they want it from me.
Another thing I noticed the latest issue of RCCA and Extreme did not have HPI Micro ad's in them! Is this the beginning of there phase out like there F1 Cars????
All those Poor hobby shops with walls full of pretty alum. Juc I mean stuff :lol:

Yikes !! Maybe they are working on a floating rear end and want to see how you did yours Bud ?? That would be very lame :(


Good news today, I got my SC18 :D What a slick 18th scale ride, these will be a hit at my local micro track :thumbsup:

Will post pics when I get it painted and geared up for the track ! Got the 1st coat of liquid mask on just now...

I'll bet they are working on a micro F1 car!!!! You should beat them to the punch Bud!!!! Actually only slight modification would be needed to mak an SC18 into an F1.... Anyone now where I can get 1/18th scale F1 bodies????

2sloww00 .. I will be putting a page on the web site about my racing thrills with the Honda.

Novice of the year. What a driver!:thumbsup:

Michael, Went to the BRP site today.... Sweet instruction manual!!!! Very nicely done!!

Originally posted by rayhuang
Michael, Went to the BRP site today.... Sweet instruction manual!!!! Very nicely done!! Agreed! It is superb; I wish it had been around when I was building mine.

One question, though: No servo saver?

Thanks for the props! I have to give my wife allot of credit! As I put the SC-18 together, she wrote down what I was doing and made sure it made sense to her (a person with no R/C experience). Now the critics have no excuse to rate the SC-18 the best 1/18 scale on-road car!

Servo saver--- I was going to put that as a pro tip, but forgot! I hope to make a Pro Edition instruction manual – please email me with your custom parts, with as much detail as possible (part manufacturer, part number and so on) and a picture to me. A lot of you experienced racers have some great modifications to your SC-18. Unfortunately you can’t go to your LHS or Tower Hobbies and look up SC-18 hop up parts like you can with the Micro. That’s why I would like to put the Pro guide together, so people new to the hobby (like me) can easily find performance enhancing modifications!

SEND ME YOUR MODS!!

:thumbsup:

oh Oh more competition
looks HPIish
www.geocities.com/rodzzo/wws1a.jpg
I like the F1 better than Futaba's
www.geocities.com/rodzzo/wwsf1.jpg

Bud---did you check out

www.geocities.com/rodzzo/wws1a.jpg

I like the bumper...

I think I have found part of the equasion, Last Saturday night there was only 2 of us in the micro class. I was running 1/12th, 4wd stock, and micro... so I had a freind substitute drive for me during the last 2 mirco races..... He was having a hard time handling the car during the final heat, then during the main the car suddenly stopped. I ran over and checked it and the damper tube had came off during the race, so I quickly took out both springs and the damper pucks and threw the car back out..... one lap later he yelled "what did you do to this car!!" I asked if the handling was worse, and he replied "no better!!!!" After the race I inspected the damper tube and it had a ring wore into the sides from the upper pod plate bottoming out on it.... So the rear suspension wasn't getting all the flex it needed to maintain traction on the bumpy track..... Now the HPI cars are havig a problem with the bumps and the BRP is hooking up!!!! So they can have their big blocks and 6.0 volt packs, all I need is to drive right under them!!!!!!

Impactplayr

you may want to try the flex T-plate (has the middle cut out) and BRP silicon lub to help with the bumps...

I have the high flex T-Plate....

Got my December Issue of Xtreme RC Cars today, and there on page 118 is the full page BRP ad with Bud's SC18 shown actual size!! Nice job, Bud. It's time the rest of the R/C world woke up.
And the Made in USA is a nice touch too.....
http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/wavingflag.gif

K1m>> Thanks hope it helps! I sold 5 kits at our last race and 3 more are coming next sunday, all new racers!!!
Are you guys starting indoors soon?

Impact player >> When you have the damper tube on with the car having batteries installed place on a flat surface and check that the tube is centered in the upper plate hole. Somtimes if you don't get the bottom screw threaded straight the tube will not be centered. To fix just hold the bottom were the screw goes into t plate and tweek it over so it is centered. I would also put some locktight or small amount of super glue on tube to lock it to the screw good.

The tube was centered and the wear mark is concentric around the entire tube..... The track is a little bumpy for 1/10th scales and 1/12th pancars..... but to 1/18th it's alot like a ralley coarse......LOL

Yes Bud I also got the new Xtreme and the ad does look good. The real sickening thing though is just a couple pages after that FULL PAGE ad they have the X best and the best mini is listed as the.........surprise, surprise.........micro RS4 with not even an honorable mention to the BRP car. Sickens me that even a magazine of this caliber can't see past the hopupititus equation with the micro. :rolleyes:

I think an email is in order. :D

Maybe the boys will do a BIG for 1/18th only, and everybody will SEE how good your car is Bud. :thumbsup:

Dan

Impactplayer >>OK then it is most likley the damper discs wearing the tube. I will be adding that part to the web site soon so racers can replace it when needed. It will be a expensive hopup however maybe $3.00 :thumbsup:

Dan >> mentioned it but did not get a answer on how they would like to do it rent wise. I love racing against those mod Micros and beating them by laps :eek:

Ovalman >> I hear that !!! If you get the new car action Minis and Micro RS4 special they have four Micros with hop ups I added up the hop ups and they average around $500.00 Just in little parts :rolleyes:

I will have some new chassis and some other parts coming out soon, I will inform all when ready.

Bud are you bring touring car tires this sunday? Need some.

Dan

Bud in my opinion that magazine isn't worth the money to see all the ads every month so I won't be seeing the "special edition". :lol:

If anyone has a interest I have a BRP car on ebay it's at $50.00 right now!!!
Go for it:eek:

Ive set up a list of hopups from what have seen in here, didnt discard any idea because they are in rough stage.
http://www.geocities.com/rodzzo/rd.html

BTW Theres a guy in here who needs help deciding on SC18
http://tinyrc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=2711

Neat list. I had no idea it was that long. Unfortunately, you're having some problems with your pictures.

Problems??:confused:
Pics are big, one is 747 kb!!!! let me see how can I shrink the size and set it up:thumbsup:

picture problems are that they don't load...

Your picture links are off. The picture specified as image002.jpg is actually image001.jpg, the reference to image005.jpg should go to image004.jpg, etc.

Good pics & interesting concepts, once you find them.

thank you, found and fixed, needed a new page design
any more ideas to add?
What do you think of pics?

DSI, The AVM page has very few links that are displaying the pictures.
What is the red motor pod from? BTW, the Speed 300 turns in the opposite direction and should be mounted to the right pod...
Interesting pictures.

You do pretty well with Photoshop...
pasting together a 12LW/LC front suspension onto the chassis pan.
What with the cost of the suspension being so much $39, it wouldn't be cost effective unless Bud could get a super deal on them.

RAFster
David

Bud, here were the results from our first BuRP race of the year. The guys in bold were running micros. They decided they need a wider footprint but I joked with them that they just need a BRP! :) The track right now is a bit "offroadish" for our little cars but even with the roughness K1M still set a pretty fast time with a 32. His track record last year was a 35 and we added a little to the length of the track. If we get rid of the "jumps" it's gonna be a FAST year!

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 3, 2002

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 4 31 5:00.53 Kim Fortner 30 9.70
2 5 29 5:00.78 Don Weimer 39 9.07
3 2 29 5:04.94 Chris Burrows 4 8.94
4 3 28 5:01.33 Rick Morgan 37 8.74
5 1 28 5:04.53 Joy Fortner 40 8.65
6 0 27 5:01.81 John Rezzelle 24 8.41


Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - NOVEMBER 3, 2002

-- BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 28 5:08.79 Dean Hushon 20 8.53
2 8 26 5:04.06 Donny Hushon 41 8.04
3 9 19 5:04.20 Barb Morgan 38 5.87
4 1 19 5:05.78 Shane Hushon 29 5.84
-- 4 --- DNS --- Laura Burrows 6

Big improvement; the thumbnails are much cooler. Thanks

Originally posted by RAFster
DSI, The AVM page has very few links that are displaying the pictures.
What is the red motor pod from? BTW, the Speed 300 turns in the opposite direction and should be mounted to the right pod...
Interesting pictures.

You do pretty well with Photoshop...
pasting together a 12LW/LC front suspension onto the chassis pan.
What with the cost of the suspension being so much $39, it wouldn't be cost effective unless Bud could get a super deal on them.

RAFster
David
RAFSter: purple motor pod is from ABC DTM-SP 1/24, fits 180 size motors, silver is from WWS PRO 1/24, fits 300 motors(fixed the opposite direction problem:D) I also consider 39 is big buck to even try it, also AVMs are pricey (fixed pics) but everything is just concept

Good to get back to carpet racing, huh Ovalman? But what a long day!! I thought the Micros would do better than they did. The track's not that much different this year - I think it's better. We gotta smooth down those wrinkles though, or have Bud build us an offroad suspension! Maybe a carpet stretcher would do it.
I missed not running the BuRPs all summer.

Originally posted by DSI
RAFSter: purple motor pod is from ABC DTM-SP 1/24, fits 180 size motors, silver is from WWS PRO 1/24, fits 300 motors(fixed the opposite direction problem:D) I also consider 39 is big buck to even try it, also AVMs are pricey (fixed pics) but everything is just concept

I've got a Dynamic Strut Front End from Associated. It is rather beefy. What would be ideal is to have that suspension with a Servo sandwiched between the blocks.
I don't know if you could do it.
Guess I'll have to open it up and assemble on side to see how large it is...or take a few measurements off a friend's 12 scale...

Thanks for fixing the pictures...

RAFster
David

Originally posted by k1m
I missed not running the BuRPs all summer. You were invited to the World Championships! Great racing & good dogs. How's the back?

DSI >> You can get the exact same motor as the big block from Hobby Lobby. It is the Graupner speed 300 6 volt $16.00.
You will have to install capacitors on it however.

The Watt-Age 370 is a non labelled Speed 300 or Big Block and you can pop a capacitor pack or solder some capacitors on it pretty cheap. The Watt-Age goes for around $10.

RAFster
David

Nil: So far the back's been fine...I'm trying to be more careful.:eek:

We had a great time at BRP World Headquarters in June. It's quite a road trip for us though, maybe we'll try and do it again next year. The hotdogs were good but we missed 2slowoo. Maybe we can talk you guys into coming to Pa sometime, we don't have a Quaker Steak & Lube here, but we have a place called The Beef & Barrel that's pretty hard to beat.

K1m maybe next summer. Didn't you guys have a special race last summer?

Yea K1M it is nice to get back to the carpet burning. I'm much more of a indoor guy even though that off road was fun all summer. Now I have to find some more speed. Dunno what we're gonna do about the bumps. I don't think it's ever been this bad before. :(

Originally posted by RAFster
The Watt-Age 370 is a non labelled Speed 300 or Big Block and you can pop a capacitor pack or solder some capacitors on it pretty cheap. The Watt-Age goes for around $10.

RAFster
David

Yes i did discovered that when I ordered both, man I could bought 2 Watt-Age 370 for the Graupner :(
David I really would like to see if 12L3 DFS fits/performs on a BRP;got dimensions from AE directly "LXWXH 4 7/8 x 1 7/8 x 1 1/8 approx. when installed";but they didnt told me the dimensions of each (left/right); Im also waiting for the results of a 380 motor with 20t pinion:eek: in a micro,I have the exact same motor in that project and maybe I could manage to fit it in the FW-18, they say top speed is like speed 300 but in torque an accel is a blast.

The Mabuchi 380 or Wattage 380 is what Graupner Speed 400. (sold by Hobby Lobby in TN; not to be confused with the Hobby Lobby craft store chain)

The motor is too big for an SC18 but a
FunWons with some work to widen the rear pod could fit a Speed 400.
I'll dig out the Dynamic Strut Front End
and assemble one side and take measurements this weekend. The suspension arm plate is something like 1.5" long (from memory...)
It isn't real light either, a little too beefy for a 18th scale... ride height would be an issue unless you shimmed it a bunch and if you did that you would have body clearance issues on many bodies...
Gonna have to dig up a pair of 1/12 scale fronts.

RAFster
David

It measures---


1.765" from back (inside of front arms) to the outside edge of the steering hub (where the wheel mounts not including axle)

1.206" high at the king pin (which rides completely inside the wheel)

1.041" high off the chassis with no shims (this can be altered by removing material from the mounting points ( which will raise ride height also) Also this is with the )deg. mount the 10 deg. mount would be taller.

0.969" from the kingpin to the very front of the suspension.

Mounting on the SC, not FW would make the front end of the car 0.280" wider per side or 0.560" total width. If you mounted the suspension back to back down the centerline.

With some modifications, a shorter king pin, fw rear axle and wheel, a more 1/12th scale style BRP could be built from the SC..... HMMMM can anyone get me a 1/12 style or F1 style body for my SC?????
:dude: :dude: :dude:

Originally posted by RAFster
The Watt-Age 370 is a non labelled Speed 300 or Big Block and you can pop a capacitor pack or solder some capacitors on it pretty cheap. The Watt-Age goes for around $10.

RAFster
David

David, who handles the Watt-Age 370's ?

Wazzer,

Hobby People in California has them and you can get your local hobby shop to order them for you. At Hobby People they cost $9.99.

http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/131350.asp

Tower won't carry them because of Watt-age is distributed by Global Hobby.

You can order two and ship first class for $3.00 or 3-5 motors Priority Mail for $6.50. 6 motors and above you are getting UPS Ground for $7.00 or FedEx 2nd Day for $10.

RAFster
David