Is anyone racing BRP cars this week?

2slow00

I plan on seeing if we can put together a 18th scale class at CORCAR's Road Rage III race this weekend (20th & 21st).

I hope to run. 2 days of racing...should be fun if the weather cooperates. Six qualifiers and the main event...
Hoooya!

David
RAFster

RAFster I can't do a two daer this weekend. I do hope to make it down next month.Kick some HPI butt with your BRP.Good luck, Dick Oettinger

This is a quote from the Racer's Edge track forum
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14798&perpage=20&pagenumber=11

Parkinglot Racing
You've gotta check out the other side of Racer's Edge summer racing series, Kanefest Sunday July 21 in Kane, Pa. It's going to be an on road blacktop track aprox 50ft X 75ft that you MAY be able to run soft foam carpet tires. If it's going to be hot you might want to pick up a set of rubber tires though. The BuRPS (1/18 scale mini racers) will be there, and I hear there will be at least one HPI micro for them to munch on! And they are hungry! They haven't seen much action since the race at BRP World Headquarters in Elyria, Ohio.
I was hoping to bring my 1/4 scale R/C Bigfoot, but after overcoming several drive problems, now the 1/4 scale steering servo turns right, but when I turn left it doesn't move and it sounds like KSG's EMaxx! Speaking of: What an Elephant race, huh? Man, we were trunk to tail the whole race, and KSG grabbed the win in the last turn!
And He Didn't Break!!! Look at it this way John, it's nearly 1/2 domestic by now.
Scooby: Once you get your shirt, you can get your name on it here: http://home.adelphia.net/~hucker/index.html

A hot but beautiful day to race saw 11 BuRP racers at this little town's event. They have lots of activites, games, and food booths, and of course the R/C race. It was good to run our mini racers again!
Results: Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - JULY 21, 2002
-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id
1 1 48 5:02.33 Chris Burrows 5
2 5 47 5:01.01 Kim Fortner 16
3 6 47 5:04.27 Joy Fortner 17
4 4 47 5:05.74 Mike Asel 11
5 3 46 5:01.05 Don Weimer 13
6 2 45 5:03.46 Rick Morgan 2

-- BuRP - B MAIN --
pos car laps time name id
1 0 40 5:01.12 John Rezzelle 1
2 1 40 5:06.55 Ben Asel 10
3 8 35 5:02.30 Laura Burrows 7
4 9 29 5:03.06 Barb Morgan 3
5 6 25 3:56.67 Mark LeKanka 4

CORCAR's Road Rage III was some hot fun.
We had eight 18th scale racers join us.
Steve Hartung and I campaigned our BRP Super Car 18s against the HPI Micros.

I was using the Long Wear Green Dot Fronts and the stock kit (Green?) rears. Saturday I had a little too much steering beginning to cause me some trouble but I managed. I could not break the 14 lap wall all day. Leaders were turning 16 laps most of the time. We were using Qual Points for qualifying orders so my consistent 14 laps put me in 3rd place qualifying. Just not driving clean enough...need more practice and some tutoring I guess. Sunday dawned very hot and the Dodge Viper without the rear wing just wasn't working and the front end bite was so high the rear was sliding in corner and I ended up having trouble rolling (barrel roll) the car in the corner. (It wasn't a traction roll with the outside lifting.)

Steve Hartung bought the extra set of Green Dot Long Wears from me Saturday before the races began and he told me Sunday he could not handle them and had to take them off. I agree so far they don't work for our track at Star Cinemas.
I'm going to build up the new BuRP and see if the Green LW front and rear works or if it was the LW Green front has more bite than the std foam Green rear and that was causing the problems.

So, you may want to bring some harder front tires to run. I know I'll be ordering some from Bud...

Here's the results.
ROAD RAGE III - JULY 20 & 21, 2002

-- HPI MICRO MOD - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 18 5:03.35 PAUL HOLONITCH 43 163.44
2 2 16 5:05.27 STEVE HARTUNG 45 144.37
3 4 15 5:00.86 BILL STEVENSON 66 137.33
4 7 15 5:16.35 CHARLES WHITE 69 130.60
5 5 15 5:18.08 MATT COIA 64 129.89
6 6 12 5:19.30 REBEKAH RICHARDS 28 103.51
7 3 11 5:01.96 DAVID MARTIN 63 100.34
8 8 9 5:27.24 JOHN PAUL RICHARDS 29 75.75

BTW, Paul Holonitch borrowed Bill Stevenson's Orion Big Block (Speed 300) to thrash the field of racers. He was already very quick, generally one lap up.
I was rolling my car in 2 or 3 turns so I slowed down a lot.
I should have thrown the Orange standard tires on the front of the car...

David
RAFster

Hello Racers :eek:

Bud...Have you had a chance to run the Novak SPY yet?

:thumbsup:

Take Care

Melchman

Bud wrote a bit about it under the thread "new novak ESC"

http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?threadid=19145


He ran the ESC at Da Track's last event.

David
RAFster

All>>> Good to see you all are having fun racing this summer. The last race at BRP's Da Track was a good one. We hope to have a record crowd at the final event on Aug 17th.
We are also going to have a swap meet. And a corn roast to go with 2sloww00's killer hot dogs. We will be giving out the awards and will have prizes also. Hope you all can make it :wave:

Ah, another crack at the oval. Fewer variables for a beginner to worry about.

Thanks for the series, Bud.

Hey all BRP racers go to new thread for details on final BRP race on Aug. 17th:wave:

TangTester are you going to Columbus next week?

hey 2slow00 and Bud,

I wish I could go but I have too many things I have to get done. It is not leaving me much time to do anything else. I will be at the last race. And ready to go fast!!!!!
Pat

TangTester too bad you can't make the road trip. We are stopping for wings on the way home.You could drive down here and ride with us if you don't want to drive to Columbus.Your car didn't run as good as it did earlier in the year, maybe you need new cells.(or stop charging at 5 amps) I hope you are faster at the next race. :eek:

Hey we had a good time at CORCAR but it was HOTTTT! The BRP's again proved the best with Rich O. 2slow00's son setting a new track record and TQ. Bud ( Thats Me ) took the A main with Don S. second after Rich had a Big block motor blow. Highest Big $$$ Micro was 3rd almost one lap down.
Later :wave:

K1m and all the PA. guys sorry to hear you can't make the final race at Da Track. Hope we can make over to your area next summer.It was nice meeting DonaldBane and Kanesurfguru.:( :)

Yeah, me too! We had a great time in June - sorry we never got to meet. If one of your hotdogs rolls off on the ground, you can say that one was mine! Good luck at the race too. Hope you guys have good weather.

Looking ify for the big race. Hope we get it in . I don't want to bring these hot dogs back home.:confused:

It was a great series! Good weather, great food, and awsome racing! Thank you Bud and all others who helped make the series so much fun. Congrats to Rich, Sporty, and Don!

Can't wait for the indoor series to start!

Bud...let us know the dates and times of the Strongsville races.

:thumbsup:

Photos from the race:

http://my.core.com/~spainnile/BRP_Worlds/index.htm

Nil great job with the pictures.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by 2slow00
Nil great job with the pictures. Just a little pay back for the dogs. :)

At the last BRP Da Track race, Bud announced that he would be running another winter series at the Brat. Points races are:

October 13 & 27
November 3 & 10
December 8 & 22
January 5 & 19
February 23
March 9

Rules are similar to last year except front wheel bearings are allowed and a 5/8" spoiler can be added.

The Brat races are run by NORCAR (http://www.the-big-al.com/norcar/)

Now, what will it take to get the Pennsylvania guys here?

The NORCAR site links to last year's rules.
It said no ball bearings and it also says no wings...does this mean the Corvette and SAL7 can't run a rear wing? Do they run a spoiler instead? Guess I better look at this year's flyer I picked up Saturday at the races.

AA 6 cell...NiCd or NiMH or racer's choice? Presuming NiMH 6 cell could be used...testing shows at the 5 minute mark the NiMH are providing more power than
a set of Nicads. FWIW

David
RAFster

I've been out of RC racing for about 10 years or so, but these BRP cars really look fun. I'm planning on purchasing 1... (hell, maybe even 2 or more)... and get some small races going. But first a few questions... How fast do these cars go (MPH) on 4 cells? I think 6 cells might be a little too fast for my track area (16x16). Also, any suggestions on what radio, servo, and ESC I should use? I generally prefer Futaba products and was thinking a Magnum JR 2PCKA, but I would like some info from other "racers". Thanks in advance,

helk

Another question...What lap counting system and software are you guys using for your races? Thanks again,

helk

Instead of 4 cells I would say to go with 5 cells. For a large part the speed will be determined by what your trigger finger is doing...

The cars are much quicker with 6 cells and has generally been what most folks end up racing. I would suggest you buy one of the Futaba combos that has the MC230CR electronic speed control. It is a highly favored ESC by the SC18 racers for it's performance, price, and size. Typically you should get something you can use in a 1/10 scale car if you decide to use it in something else later. The MC230CR can be used with stock motors.
Tower carries the Magnum Junior with this ESC for $99.
http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXASX8**&P=7
The cars are tons of fun and affordable when compared to the kind of money most people are putting into the HPI Micro.

David
RAFster

Originally posted by helk0
Another question...What lap counting system and software are you guys using for your races? Thanks again,

helk

Most clubs use an AMB transponder system with various software packages being used.
The older system was a AMB20 system and I don't know what they call the new transponder system. CORCAR club just upgraded their system this summer. They had been saving race proceeds for about 18 months to order the 20 transponders needed to maintain the smooth flow of racing.

I've seen several different optical scoring systems developed and out there on the internet. Some use a flag that rides at a predetermined height to break a beam.

David
RAFster

Originally posted by RAFster
The NORCAR site links to last year's rules.Bud will be getting this year's info to Alan to update the rules on the NORCAR site.

Originally posted by RAFster
The NORCAR site links to last year's rules.The new rules and schedule are posted now at NORCAR (http://www.the-big-al.com/norcar/brpindoorseries.htm).

Racing at hobby town in Strongsville on Aug 25! A group of BRP racers will test out the concrete hope we don't fly over the expansion joints too much. Try to come out and we will put on a show ;)

Does anyone know how late the races run at Strongsville? I have a commitment Sunday evening.

Thanks

Nil,
We have been ending between 4 and 5 depending on how many people show up.Hope to see you there.We've been averaging 23 to 30 racers.

Marioparnelli and I will be at Stongsville on Sunday to race the BRP SC18 cars. Who else is coming? :D

I'll be there, but I think i'll leave my grandson home. I am saving him for our first race in Sept. :wave:

Don do they have power or will we need the generators?

Dick>>> They have no power!

Thanks Bud, did you get an address?

2slow00

From akron take 77 north to Rt 18 west.Get on 71 north to Rt. 82,go left or west.

OR

I-77 north all the way to I-480, then I-71 south. If you don't mind paying toll, I-80 (Ohio Turnpike) would probably be the quickest. SR 82 is the first exit south of the Turnpike on I-71. Then right or west on 82.


You will pass Southpark mall on your left.Take Rt 82 to Pearl Rd.(Rt 42).Take a left.

Hobbytown will be on your left about a 1/2 mile down. It's in a plaza.

Thanks Nil, are you guys racing?

I hope to, but after this week at work, two days of racing may be too much. Wil has already said he won't.

I will be at the race!!!!
2 of my friends are going to come as well. One of them has all ready got and put togther his SC-18! :thumbsup:

I have finnaly been able to buy the TRC HPI soft foam tires. I hop to have them next week. I will let you guys know how they work out.

Hey everyone!

I have a couple of SC18's and absolutely love them. I have two questions for having a little more fun with them

1> Does anyone know how I could get bigger tires to make it look more "Monster-truck'ish" ?

2> Does Parma make slower motors so my kids can use them without the damage they currently dish out? I tried turning down the speed control but it is either too fast or so slow it won't back up.

Thanks!

Madd Matt

check Bud's fun one tires they are about the largest tires you can run on his car. He has a system to put them on the new car.

Matt:

Try using a four cell pack.

Matt,

Try different gearing to slow the motor.

Is there danger of overheating the motor if you gear that way? If he has the stock ball diff then a 46T spur is installed. The stock gearing is a 9T/46T or a final drive of 5.11:1
The 8T pinion give a final drive of 5.75:1
The 7T pinion will give a final drive of 6.57:1
We typically run a 52T:9T combination on short tight tracks (5.77:1) so to see a change you would want to go to the 7T pinion to slow the car significantly. Monitor the motor temps when running a 46T:7T combination. If it gets too hot to touch you need to back off on the run time.

I think the better solution initial solution was suggested by Nil is to cut them down to 4 cells.

I'm curious...What are they breaking on the car?

The Fun Wons gearing is different than the SC18.

Where do you guys get other pinions? What pitch is the pinion gears/spur gears? 32 pitch?

Thanks!

David
RAFster

As many have discovered it is sometimes
difficult to keep the Hitec HS81MG servo attached to the chassis. Steve Hartung's solution was a strap across the servo screwing down on the front chassis plate nuts.

The brass I chose was too thin and ripped out. I did something a little different in the repair. I took a pair of old brushes with eyelets and soldered a piece of wire between the eyelets after removing the brushes to make it the proper length to span the servo to the front plate nuts. I put a shim of 060 plastic on the chassis to provide proper clearance for the servo saver. The eyelet ends attach below the nuts that attach the front end plate.
The cause of the servo being knocked loose is that the front body mount is attached to the servo...
Smack the pipes hard and you are gonna rip the servo free of the tape be it Bud's or Bolinks...

Ultimate solution is to not run into the pipes eliminating the cause...8-)

If you got real desparate you could glue the servo to the chassis plate with epoxy but you destroy the servo you better be able to service it with it attached...or buy a replacement front end plate.

David
RAFster

RAFster we got our 7 and 8 tooth pinions at one of the local slot car tracks. I'm not sure of the pitch.

MadMatt>> Has a rental track so he wants the cars to be SLOWWW!
Sept 29th is out first indoor race in Cleveland I can't wait:)