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Micro_Racer
04-19-2002, 07:28 AM
I will be racing at Classics

:roll:

2slow00
04-19-2002, 09:31 AM
Mario, Bill and I will be there about 3. If you get there first save us a spot.

BudBartos
04-19-2002, 09:54 AM
Of course I will be there!!!!
There are about 7 guys coming that I know of there should be a big turnout :)
I will have some set up tips for DA TRACK as soon as I get to run on it more. It has LOTS of bite! Micro-racer had a very loose car we will have to work on that setup. The track is FAST and fun can't wait to get a bunch of cars on it!

BoLink Boy
04-19-2002, 03:31 PM
I finally got to run my sc18 on a real track. It is quick but the only fast way around was to keep the speed up in the turns because it seems to be overgeared. I'll gear down a tooth when I use my Rotor motor. BTW, I found lots of goodies at www.cyberslot.com

BudBartos
04-19-2002, 04:56 PM
Bolinkboy>> The rotor motors do not have as much torque as the stock kit motors because of the large can cutout. The XP magnets will help alot, also make sure the brushes are broken in very good.

BoLink Boy
04-19-2002, 05:54 PM
Bud, I just sent you an order for the magnets and a saleen body. Will the magnets fit in the rotor motor? Thanx :thumbsup:

MaddMatt
04-19-2002, 06:11 PM
hey everybody:

As always I am involved in my never-ending search for the ultimate battery pack. I recently found a small Li-ion battery that will fit nicely, is lighter and is rated at 1200mah.

Does anyone have any info on Li-Ion batteries?

Madd Matt

BudBartos
04-19-2002, 09:42 PM
Bolink boy>> Yes the XP mags will fit.

marioparnelli
04-19-2002, 09:52 PM
Will do:roll:

k1m
04-19-2002, 10:25 PM
Tomorrow me, Ovalman, KSG, Donalbain, and a couple of others plan to meet at a local School parkinglot for some of the most fun you can have with an R/C. and it's FREE! We plan these informal get togethers between the regular racing seasons here in our area to keep our trigger fingers from itching too bad. Unless it rains, you're guarenteed a good time with alittle racing and alot of B.S.ing.
I'll get a chance to try out my new SC18 and it's HPI rubber tires. I did run it up and down our street last night, and it was FAST! I haven't run the soft pair of tires yet, but they're so sticky I picture them picking up dirt like a lint roller! :rolleyes:
We'll probably be running everything everything from E-Max's to BuRPs tomorrow, sometimes even at the same time! :D

DanMedved
04-21-2002, 08:30 AM
Had a blast running the oval at Classis with the BRP car, would like to do it again. 13 cars in the main!!!!!!! WOW!
Thanks Bud!
Dan medved:thumbsup:

Micro_Racer
04-21-2002, 10:04 AM
I can't wait for the next oval race at Classic's. Thanks to Bud and everyone else who helped me set up my car! Do we have a date for the next race?

I will see all of you at Da Track May 4th...

Michael (AKA Micro_Racer)
:thumbsup:

BudBartos
04-21-2002, 10:49 AM
Micro-racer>>> Next carpet oval will be next season, we may run there road course a couple of times this summer!
What a total blast racing the BRP's at Classic. We had 13 entrys which was not to bad for the time of year. The main was run with all 13 cars at one time it was like a real nascar race. After we finished the 5 min main we all kept running just to see how long we could go, how about 15 min. on the stock BRP batts which are 700 mah :eek:
Hope to see you all at the BRP race May 4th:wave:

hankster
04-21-2002, 11:00 AM
Attached is a picture of "Da Track", home of BRP Racing!

2slow00
04-21-2002, 11:40 AM
Bud with the personal transponders we may be able to run 20 cars in the mains! I think the next oval race should be a 10 min. main . We may have to build a heavy duty drivers stand . :eek:

BudBartos
04-21-2002, 03:23 PM
2slow00... Yes I heard that it was creeking!
Has anyone seen the SC18 review in Car Action yet? I have been told that the BRP car blew the others away? :lol: But we know that already.

Nil
04-21-2002, 09:12 PM
Dang! Sorry I missed the fun. On the bright side, Ma's doing better, and she appreciated the help around the house. See you on the fourth, I hope.

Nil

2slow00
04-23-2002, 04:28 PM
nil you would have had agood time. We ran all cars in the main. You had to make the top 10 to get a transponder. Hope to see you and your son on the 4th.:cool:

k1m
04-23-2002, 07:32 PM
Our play day nearly got rained out, we got a late start and only acouple of us showed up. We ran a few batterys through the BuRPs and our buggys and had some good laughs. The SC18 ran very well, alittle loose on the cold blacktop with the HPI rubber tires, but VERY fast. I had to adjust the diff alittle, but other than that it held together great. I did manage to pop one of the rear wheels off the adapter on the inside. (I was afraid of that) We laughed as we watched it roll across the pavement and into alittle dip. Then when I went to get it I noticed that it nearly rolled into a storm drain. It stopped about 3 inches from the grate which would have been bye,bye, pretty little wheel! :(
The Fun Wons were hooked as usual on their foam tires, as were our Losi buggys. The only casuality of the day was my 1/10 scale buggy, after a fierce battle until Don's battery died, I was just taking a few more laps until mine dumped. Not sure what happened,(brain fart)but me and the cement curb got together and I came out with a broken front bulkhead. It stopped with the car on the pavement and the left front tire, etc up on top of the curb! Only about a $9.00 part and good for a heck of a laugh.:D

Donalbain
04-25-2002, 10:46 AM
That's right! K1m's BRP was streakin' across that parking lot. Didn't take much "racing" before I felt I needed a new motor! He must have a 2.1 gigawatt flux copasitor in there some where.:lol: See you in Ohio, May 3rd.

2slow00
04-26-2002, 04:31 PM
Bud just got the new Car Action with the mini comparisons I think it was a good article and the SC18 was rated the fastest and best all around racing type vehicle.I still can't believe some guys put $800 dollars and up in the HPI and other mini's.:p

k1m
04-27-2002, 01:02 AM
Good to hear Car Action has finally given some attention to BRP, they're sniffin too much nitro lately, they lost my sub. a while ago - guess I'll have to break down and buy one of their rags again.
Xtreme R/C did a good review on the old chassis awhile back, maybe they'll catch up to the 1/18 scale craze too and review the SC18.

Looks like 4 of us from Racer's Edge here in Pa. will be making the pilgrimage to BRP World Headquarters, May 4th to race on "Da Track" in Elyria, Ohio. I'm painting up a new body for my BuRP with hopes I can get Bud to sign it for me when we get out there. We've been racing Bud's cars now for over 2 years and we've really been happy with the quality of the cars and the enjoyment we've had racing these cars for very little money.

I need some info from you locals - how do we get from the Comfort Inn on Leona St. to Da Track? We've already got our eye on the Red Lobster, but where else should we look for? How far is shiftersraceway.com from Elyria?

BudBartos
04-27-2002, 09:54 AM
2slow00 & k1m>>> I have not rec'v my car action yet. Hope it helps with sales :)
Dick we may need more hot dogs Greers are coming from Toledo K1m and the guys and girls we may have 20 to 25 at the first race WOW! We could make it the ashphalt oval word champs!!!
I will have some set up tips later since I got to run on DA TRACK friday for some time.
K1m >> From the comfort in go to the stop light at corner, turn right,stay on that road you will come to a left hand turn that the road makes still stay on that road, there will be a stop light at rt 113 go thru that to the next stop sign,that is Lowell st turn left and world headquarters is on the left side. There is a electric plug by the AC if you guys come on friday and want to run :wave:

OvalmanPA
04-27-2002, 11:59 AM
Bud...with KSG and K1M coming from our track you're DEFINATELY going to need more hot dogs! :lol:

BudBartos
04-27-2002, 03:51 PM
OK I hear you!!!!
K1m>>> I changed the directions in above reply go by those. When will you guys be coming in?
The Car Action review was good hope it helps boost sales so I can run some of those $5,000.00 two page spread ads like the other guy!

BudBartos
04-27-2002, 07:57 PM
Well I have some initial setup tips for DA TRACK!
SC18, med rears, orange fronts, geared 9/52 no chassis wedge, no tire traction. Car will be pretty well hooked but front tire wear is on the high side. The track is fast turn 2 is slightly off chamber so car will want to push slightly, small bump exit of turn 2 but should be no problem, slight crack entrance to turn 3 stay tight going in and it is fine, 3 and 4 smooth, front strait smooth, turn 1 smooth.
I'm testing some long wear fronts and they look good, just have to see if I get foam in time for the first race. I ran 17 min straight on stock 700 mah cells and that was a old pack. The right front tire wore .025 total, so if we only run 5 min heats and rotate tires they will be the way to go. Atleast right now with the testing I have done.
The orange fronts will wear out in maybe two race weekends.
Rubber tires>>> Car seems to be slightly faster maybe just because of the larger dia. HPI stock fronts and Dynamite soft rears hook up very good. With the HPI stock rears and stock fronts car was way loose. The wheels and tires look neet but I totally hate to glue them up, however they showed almost no wear on them. So as you see there are going to be different ways to go. Right now I will be running the long wear fronts.
Will let you know more when I get to run some more.
Right now I plan on 5 min qualifiers maybe longer mains.
Later :wave:

k1m
04-27-2002, 09:06 PM
Bud: Would that first right be on Griswald St. or rt 57?
We hope to get there Fri afternoon and if it's OK I think we'd all like to run a pack for practice.
What compound are the stock SC18 foams?
Also, any tips for the Fun Wons - especially gearing?
Here's a custom BRP avatar if I can get Hank to add it to the list, I sent it in quite a while ago.

BudBartos
04-27-2002, 10:03 PM
K1m>> SC18 stock kit tires med all around. The SC Fun Wons will be hooked with the kit tires and they will be real fast!! Gear them 9 / 52
I may just have to get me onr of them ready to go.
Sure you can run all you want on friday!! Want me to put lights out there?????

Nil
04-28-2002, 08:59 AM
Originally posted by k1m
How far is shiftersraceway.com from Elyria? KiM:

Shifters is about 30-40 miles from Elyria; on the bright side, if you're driving I-90, you go within about 4 miles of it as you enter greater Cleveland.

Let me know if you need more explicit directions.

Nil

kanesurfguru
04-28-2002, 02:23 PM
Originally posted by OvalmanPA
Bud...with KSG and K1M coming from our track you're DEFINATELY going to need more hot dogs! :lol:

Hey I resemble that remark ;^)

BUD: looking forward to this comming weekend.

OvalmanPA
04-29-2002, 01:08 PM
John...I knew you'd appreciate that if you saw it. :D

Micro_Racer
04-29-2002, 04:54 PM
I ran the HPI stock front and back tires geared 9/52. The track was COLD so it was a little loose. I hope the sun will be out for race day, with a hot track the rubber should stick well. The small bump exit of turn 2 (if you are on the inside) is nasty! If you miscalculate a turn it is possible to jump the plastic pipe wall! I ran one pack for 10 minutes, when I looked at my car it was very dusty! The dust stuck to everything, bring a lot of rags!

DanMedved
04-29-2002, 05:32 PM
:)
maybe Bud will have a leaf blower too blow off the track, at Eastlake I would sweap & blow the track off, just like real racing if you get out of the grove you'll pick up debris.
I have too work this saturday till 4:00, bummer! well have a good time.

BudBartos
04-29-2002, 06:30 PM
micro racer >>> The stock HPI rears will not hook up. Look at the post above :eek:
I will have the track blowen off, it was nice and clean friday then the wind and rain came.

aconsola
04-29-2002, 08:17 PM
HI all,
A few quick questions, I am looking to order the SC Fun Wons DA BUG Kit to replace my original oval outlaw and compliment(beat?) my HPI micro.
What size pinion comes with the kit, and how many teeth are on the Fun ones ball diff?
I want to get the "other" sized spur and pinions, and don't want to wind up missing one and having 2 of the same.
What size are the bearings on the axles, and is there a bearing that fits on the spur gear?
one other thing, I have a track setup in my basement that I run the Micro on, what tires would you recomend for painted concrete?
Thanks,
-Anthony

k1m
04-29-2002, 10:13 PM
The SC18 comes with 9/46 gears, the diff kit comes with a 46t also but you can get a 52t for the ball diff too. In a small area (less than 20-30 ft) go with 7/52.

All axle bearings are 1/8 x 5/16. You'll have to sand down the rear axle to get it to fit, though. It's made for the bushings.

The diff gear bearing is 3/16 X 5/16

Painted concrete is SLIPPERY! If the micro's hook up, use HPI tires and Bud's adapter kit. If the rubber tires are loose, maybe the stock foams will work. You're best bet is to get the surface as clean as possible. Let us know how you compare the SC18, Anthony.

Here's a pic of the new SC18 with HPI rubber. I finally painted the body and will have another pic soon.
:hat:

aconsola
04-29-2002, 10:24 PM
k1m,
Thanks for the info. Think I'm gonna wait for the wife to go to bed to sneak out the Credit cards and place an order . . .

-Anthony

aconsola
04-29-2002, 10:26 PM
Just thought of another pre-order?
Will the HPI wheel adapters work with the fun-wons specific ball diff, or does it only work with the standard tire version of the diff?
Thanks,
-Anthony

k1m
04-29-2002, 10:56 PM
The HPI wheel adapters are for the SC18, but I cant see why you couldn't adapt them to the Fun Won, it'd be like a low rider. Maybe you could get a RAM chip that would thump!:dude:

Where's Vestal, Anthony?

aconsola
04-29-2002, 11:23 PM
k1m,
I want to put the HPI wheels on the sc18, but I also want to get the da bug body which only comes with the fun wons wheels, I think I'll wait on the adapters, and just see how the stock car does on its own.
Vestal is a town in the Binghamton NY area.
Thanks again,
-Anthony

k1m
04-29-2002, 11:48 PM
I'd give Bud a call if I were you, maybe he can fix you up with a SC18 Bug kit. Where else can you hook right up to the manufacturer and talk to "Da Man"?

On the other hand, Da Bug does very well stock (Fun Won), just alittle top heavy, mount the body low.

kanesurfguru
04-30-2002, 10:00 AM
Yes DA Bug can be top heavy, but what other vehicle can you get to roll over right back on it's wheels 9 out of 10 times. And of course have fun doing it:)

Micro_Racer
04-30-2002, 02:39 PM
In the June 2002 Radio Control Car Action Magazine, Bud's SC-18 was picked fastest at 21mph and got the Editor's Pick from Peter Vieira! Finally the prof that SC-18 is faster than a Micro!

Way to go BUD!!!!

:thumbsup:

MEGOO
04-30-2002, 11:57 PM
Hi fellows,
Just have a question maybe someone can answer.
Which catagory in swap&sell should I use to list
some BRP cars & accessories I have for sale.
Thanks, MEGOO

kanesurfguru
05-01-2002, 12:48 AM
Megoo:

I would sell them in the Accessories section, it seems to me that most people look there first. Just my two cents.

aconsola
05-02-2002, 09:52 PM
Got MY SC18 Da-Bug kit today, and got it up and running. I tried it out box stock first to see how it handled, and needless to say, steering on my tight track was terrible.
I put in the ball diff, added a bit of tire traction compound to the front tires, and wow, what a difference!
This car is much quicker than my Micro, although handling is not as good, but that could be because I'm used to (cheating with)4wd on the micro and need to adjust.
I came up with a few more ?'s.
In the instructions it says that it comes with blue(med) tires all around, but mine came with orange(hard) up front. Is it supposed to have the softer ones up front, or is that a running change, or does that only apply to the std tires and not the fun-wons?
Is there any way to safely remove and re-install a pinion without a gear puller and press? The pinion that's on there now only engages half the spur gear, and I'd like to put a smaller one on anyway.
anyone know of decent tools that won't break the bank, and where I can get'em, there's no slot presence locally.
Tomorrow I'm off to the LHS to get bearings, and then I'll install them, the XP magnets, and the 52t spur gear.
Thanks,
-Anthony

kanesurfguru
05-02-2002, 10:26 PM
I own a NINCO gear press and puller all in one model # 70201

You can get it at http://www.radtrax.com/indexA.html online.

I believe the cost is $10.49

Just go to the address above and click on the slot car model online store and then look for it there. I just found it there, but the URL address stays the same through out the catalog. So just look it up.

Hope that helps

I have also attached a picture for you.

BudBartos
05-03-2002, 09:33 AM
aconsola>> The blue orange fronts were a running change that we made some time ago. If you need more front bite you can try softer front springs, if you still need more you can go to the blue coumpond tires all around.

BudBartos
05-03-2002, 10:05 PM
We had some action at DA TRACK today! The guys fron PA were shaking down there rides, the SC18 Fun Wons looked pretty fast. Several others were also getting some testing in.
I have some long wear tires that " ARE THE TICKET"
It is going to be a hoot :wave:

Nil
05-03-2002, 11:09 PM
Bud:

You have softer springs than the Oranges now? I've been meaning to ask since the mag said something about accessory springs.

Nil