Yeah, the micro was kind of a dissapointment after waiting this long to race with one. It had speed for sure, but it's rubber tires weren't working on the ozite. I'm sure he'll get the bugs worked out of it.....he wrenched on it all day and I'm also sure he'll have all kind of hop-ups in no time.

I think I may have to actually fix something on mine for the first time in a long time. Looks like I bent the rear axle somehow....at least I think so, I've got an awful wobble to my rear tires and the gears don't sound too smooth.

Ancient: This is the best place to get answers to all your questions, no problem. We all answer the ones we can, and look to "Da Man" for the rest.
The BRP motors are 16d slot car motors, and you can get other accessories for them from:
http://cyberslot.net They have pinion pullers and lots of other goodies at FasTrak Hobby Center. We tried some of their "Deathstar" motors last year with pretty good results. Bud's green endbell motors really scream with the XP magnets in them.

I'd like to play with brushes sometime and I hear the Mura Big Foot brushes will work. Anyone know where I can get ahold of a couple of pairs?

After running a search at Fastrak for Mura and Big Foot, I came up with this, Hummmm.....
Code: KOFM486

Super Big Foot II Brushes-Same Quality, New Source-Pair
$ 3.33

Koford



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K1M...........why worry about a bent axle, you should see how bad mine is. It's getting hard to get in and out of the bushings. LOL

K1m >> Was that micro stock?? I added up all the hopups for a dream killer micro WOW with the retail of the car kit at only $100.00 and NO radio gear My killer micro would cost $850.00 outrages. And I bet it would still roll over.
Well anyhow we raced in Toledo at the CRL race and had 13 BRP cars several had the Reily conversion on them. I finished second after a last turn crash, Thats racing http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif The Reily conversion has a saddle pack graphite chassis that uses 2/3 A cells which I feel put out more power.
I tested the Orion big block motor and it was 1 lap faster but almost too fast, we all ran the stock kit motors the rest of the day.
The new wheel hub adapters worked great and look awsome.Hope to have these two new items on the web site by end of the week.
The racing in Clevland went well to with 20 BRP racers going at it.

NORCAR will be running there cars and talking about the club on the morning news March 13th with Kenny Kropton from TV-8.
During the show they will show us racing our cars from the Brat, between 6:55 & 9:00am
can we get some people to show up?
Please let me know if you can make it.
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Hey guys, I'm new to this mini thing. I have a BRP SC-18 and so far I'm real impressed with it stock. What are the more popular hop-ups as far as motor, chassis, and which tires work best on what?

Thanks, Mike

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The most popular option is to leave it pretty much alone. Any mods tend to be along the lines of durability or ease of maintainence ie; bearings, servo saver, turnbuckles instead of wire linkage. There is one, absolutly, got to have it option; ball diff. The tires that come with the kit(blues I think) are fine on carpet. If you will run on a more abrasive surface, you may need to go somewhat harder for durability. On a more slippery surface, go to greens in the back. Unless you can drive like Bud Bartos, stick with the stock motor.Hope this helps.
Bud-thank you for the motor plates. The Orion mod conversion is AWSOME.(no,I can't drive like Bud but the car is a blast).

Bud, I broke down and bought a micro, I must say it definately isn't an SC18, but I do like it. We have an oval we set-up in or garage on an ozite knock-off carpet. With the stock tires the Micro just slides like on glass. What I did was to get 2 sets of those Tamiya mini 4wd foams...I needed 2 sets cause they are smaller, but stretch and I tore 2..... Now the car doesn't slide as much, hooks up somewhat better, but is still more inconsistant than the Brp's. But the drama makes racing quite interesting. So when I wanna win consistantly I run my SC, but when I feel like screaming around the track, I breakout the Micro....

BUD, is it possible for you to make foam donuts in the same compounds as what your foams are currently, but made to mount on HPI rims.... Since you are coming out with the hubs, the donuts would be a good idea to follow, so that the BRP guys can have the nice wheels and not have to sacrifice the foams.

Hey BRP guys I went to post on the old board and you moved on me.I lost my track during the summer El Cajon R/C and slots.I would like to chime in on the 16D slotcar motors.Stick with the stock ones like Bud sells or the Death Star motors.I tried a hot Kofford motor . Fried the ARM after just a few laps.I have never seen smoke come out of the back of R/C car before.Cost $49.99 down the drain we even tried a not so hot ARM and it fried too so I was down another $20.00.I had the slotcar shop owner helping me rebuild the motor. So we stuck a stock arm in the can I have been running it ever since down $7.00. So the experiment cost me $76.99 + tax in about 1 hours time of running and rebuilding.I can't wait to get the new BRP HPI tire hubs so I can run on asphalt with out chewing up all my foam tires.I saw on ebay listed under HPI Micro in the search someone is making and selling nylon hubs with foam tires mounted and trued for the micro.I am glad I found this list again I was think about getting a micro. After reading about all the nightmares stories of repairs and handling problems I will stick with my BRP SC18.
Later,
Terry
San Diego,California

Bud are we going to run the paved oval 18th scale worlds and the concrete onroad 18th scale worlds this summer at Classic Hobbies? I think it would be a blast. I think both tracks are smooth enough.

Bud, I agree with 2slow0. The oval at Classic's was a blast. We should do it again! We should come up with a catchy name for this event. Something like: " The 18th Scale Classic World Nationals at Classic's" http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/tongue.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Sounds good http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif I'm thinking of running the 1/18th BRP on the dirt oval this sat at D&D
Let you know how it worked if I go.

Figured I'd better test out the new BB and make sure all my "adjustments" are good to go.

On a note of BuRPs also. May be needing a new motor soon. Seems like my Deathstar might be giving up the ghost. Might otta try one of Buds new motors and maybe slip in a set of them new magnets too.......naaawwwww. :)

Figured I'd better test out the new BB and make sure all my "adjustments" are good to go.

On a note of BuRPs also. May be needing a new motor soon. Seems like my Deathstar might be giving up the ghost. Might otta try one of Buds new motors and maybe slip in a set of them new magnets too.......naaawwwww. :)

Hehe...........seems I registered here before I was even born too! :D

Just checking.......LOL

Bud did you make it to D&D Saturday?:thumbsup:

NO I just layed around for once! Check out my profile. I will be at the Brat with the awsome trophies to give out. The next weekend is a race in Toledo and I may go up there to run the BRP's
:wave:

I checked out your profile. It was hard to get to the private message. Probubly just me.:p :p

Hey Bud,
Here's an idea for the next racing series. How about a BuRPernational Race of Champions series??? Think about it Dirt Oval, Carpet Oval, Paved Oval, Asphalt Road Course and Cement Road Course. Sounds like fun to me. What do you think???:thumbsup:

Bill >> Sounds like alot of racing :rolleyes:

I like that BuRPernational idea. Bud if you could put up a few grand in prize money.;)

Originally posted by 2slow00
I like that BuRPernational idea. Bud if you could put up a few grand in prize money.;)

Hey, a few grand, or a grand time. Fun is harder to come by than money.

Actually, is five races over the course of a summer a lot?

And for prizes, we get to listen to Bud's "good ole times."

Nil

Hey when mini-RC's are involved Fun is too easy to come by!!!

Bud, Be watching for my BRP car on TV-8 with Kenny Kropton, will be running though the news cast,about every 1/2 hour or so.

Sorry guys, I've been lost since the software changeover. I tried to post before but it didn't post.....
I like BuRPernational, it has a nice ring to it:wave:
maybe later,

Dan >> I'll try to get up that early! Tell them the 1/18th cars are made in Elyria Ohio
TO ALL 1/18th BRP racers from NORCAR I will have the trophies at the race sunday for the 2001/2002 series would like to hand out at the drivers meeting so everyone can see what you won!
To see all the results go to the NORCAR (www.the-big-al.com/norcar/points.htm) Web site.
See you all sunday:wave:

Kind of a strange week of racing at Racers Edge this week. Don and I pretty much slugged it out all day with him getting the short end of the stick in the main with a DNF. (Battery bar came loose I think) Chris' new SC18 Fun Won was a rocket right out of the box. KSG is FAST down the straight stretch, but I think he's still testing the front end's strength by wailing into the wall every now and then. Hehehehe! Ovalman needs more zip, his BuRP acts like it's only running on 5 cells. Even so, he was nice enough to give my BuRP "Da Wedge" a lift on top of his SuperTruck's bed piggyback! It must have happened during one of the unfortunate times when we might have got together and rubbed alittle.

Bud: I think the 52t spur gear is one of the best hop-ups for the SC18 so far. Probably due to the oillite bushing, I've raced mine 3-4 times every week for the last 4 months on the same spur gear. I only changed it because my axle got bent. Last year we were changing spur gears and pinions alot. Cooler motors, more torque, and longer life...a definate improvement!
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Dick, Bill, Don, Dan and all that were on TV today it came out real nice we got lots of air time! Should be about 1,000 people at the race sunday wanting to rent those awsome BRP cars:thumbsup:

Originally posted by k1m
It must have happened during one of the unfortunate times when we might have got together and rubbed alittle.

"Might" have got together and "rubbed" alittle. Hehe...........I like that. Perfectly clean hack. :D Dunno what's up with my BuRP. Like you say it seems like it's on 4-5 cells. Takes off real good at the beginning of race but goes "flat" after a minute or so.

hello everybody.

I just finished reading every post from the last 6 months or so and you guys have covered some ground! I just bought my first BRP SC18 after driving down to meet Bud face to face.

I have an odd question: What speed control would your recomend if I needed to car to go slow? I was all set to use the Futabe mc230cr but there is no high end adjustment. I realize this goes against everything you stand for but I have a small track and the cars are just too fast!

Thanks

Matt

Matt>>> Thats lot's of reading :eek:
I have had good luck with those dynamite power plus units.

You must have crossed eyes after reading so many posts, we're glad you hung in there. I think I would still go with the MC230CR because of it's size and reverse feature and because mine works great. I have limited it's speed by turning down the throttle ATV on my Magnum Junior transmitter. It's a handy feature when I lend it out to a newbie or racing in small spaces.(I tend to have kind of a lead finger too) You might also try a 4 or 5 cell battery pack to calm them down. The steering ATV comes in handy also when racing on different surfaces. Have fun!
Buffalo, huh? you're about 90 miles from Racers Edge here in Pa.

Get teh duatrax esc100, it is made by Futaba, costs $32 from tower, and has a full throttle adjustment pod. The site will say it only works with 6-7cells, but we use them on 4.

look here: http://www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p.pgm?Q=1&I=LXZS09&P=7

Just ran my SC18 with the new HPI hub adapters and HPI wheels and tires.Also the 52 tooth spur gear.The rubber tires are great I can run the car up and down the street in front of my house now.The car handles great on the not so smoooth asphalt.I also bought a couple GTP bodies from American Racing Models (http://www.dxmarket.com/arm/) I bought the Toyota and the BMW LMP. I give BUD a big:thumbsup: for making the hubs they look like they are machined out the same high quailty plastic that all of BRP products are machined from.
Later,
Terry
Encinitas,Ca
VULCAN RING (http://www.geocities.com/vulcanspeedway/)

Thanks for the input everybody. I just ordered the Futaba 2PH from tower with the esc-100. For $90 total, hopefully it'll do the trick. I have only used the 2PC, but it seemed to be discontinued and tower recomended the 2PH and it was $1 cheaper so I'll keep my fingers crossed.

Thanks again for the help

Madd Matt

Bud,

I have looked on your site and can't find the HPI hub adapters. Do I have to call the order in or are they available online? Also, how much are they and are they front or rear or just one size?

Thanks,

Chris

Please let us know how these work out. I was under the impression that you had to use the 140mm body sizes. I think the AMR bodies are 150mm from looking on the website you provided.

I am interested in the GTP style of bodies as well. Please let us know how these work for you and if you had to modify them in any way to fit the BRP SC18 chassis.

Thanks!

Chris

The AMR bodies work great the BRP SC18 wheel base is 146mm and the AMR needs 150mm.So we are talking about a 4mm difference.I just mounted the body before I painted it and used my sharpie to mark the wheel wells.Then I cut it out and painted it.
Terry

Here is a photo of the BMW the quality is not very good
Terry

The Toyota
Terry

The SC18 with the hubs
Terry

Terry,

Thanks! Wow, really love those GTP bods! Have you tried 3M 77 adhesive spray on your new HPI tires? It really helps keep the rubber on (or so I have read) Looks like I see new HPI hub adapters and AMR GTP bodies in my future!

Bud, do you have the hubs in stock and can we order from your website yet? Also, your battery plugs; are they just one side or a pair? I am contemplating building my own packs.

Has anyone tried higher capacity NIMH 6 cell packs? I have seen AA cells up to 1800 Mah out there and was wondering if anyone has tried these and with what results.

Also, I have misplaced my instructions to building my SC18. If anyone could post a scan or email me at ancientsgamer@hotmail.com, I would appreciate it. Also, if you have any building hints as I recall the instructions not being as detailed as I would need. I started a new thread for FAQ as it has been very time consuming just viewing this thread for helpful hints! I would suggest that other threads get started as well as this will help everyone find the thread they are most interested in.

Take care,

Chris

Chris,
I just put a thin bead of Foam safe CA glue[no fume marks].On the front of the wheel groove around the rim.Works great:thumbsup:
Terry

Chris:

I just ordered my 1800's and they should be in next week. I'll be happy to post the results of their initial tests once they come in.

Madd Matt

MadMatt, we run the stock packs in our series and they preform very well. I bought some 1600 nmh cells and they weren't as fast as the nicads but had much more run time.(good for practice) I would suggest switching your plugs from the stock to the gold post Trinity type plug they take up much less room. :thumbsup:

I guess I am a little confused ;-) Do Nicads offer more power than Nimh cells? I would think that the higher Mah ratings of Nimh cells would provide more power and longer run times? Anyway, I am curious to hear from others before I make the plunge to making my own packs. I am looking at running 6 cells but want to maximize speed while still getting the longest run times possible as a secondary concern.

Terry, thanks for the tip on the tires. I guess some folks are using the 3M to avoid using CA glue. I guess it's a little early to tell which is better. I know the 3M glue is easy to remove. Anyone have any experience with durability of rubber tires? I mean, how long should they last when compared to foam? I moved from 10th scale because of lack of time (can run the 1/18th in more areas since space requirements are less) but I never did get to race my car. So some of my questions are from shear ignorance!

Thanks,

Chris

Here is my understanding about Nicads and Nimh cells. Nicads generaly have more power because they have lower resistance. The physical size of the cells are set so they fit in battery holders not just for R/C, but for everthing from radios to toys. If you look at a cell in cross section it would resemble a roll of toilet paper. The plates of the cell are in a roll separated by insulation. The way the manufacturers increase capacity of the cells is by either making the plates thinner or by making the insulation thinner. This gives them more room to add more surface area for the plates. More surface area equals more capacity. The internal resistance of the thinner plates is greater than the thicker plate cells. Nicads have increased in capacity over the years from 1200mah to 2400mah by this method. Nicad have seemed to hit a capacity limit there. Nimh cell technology seems to be a way they can increase cell capacity without running into problems with thinner insulation. I hope this helps.:)

Ok, so now that everyone is in on this...

If I want long run times but could care less about top speed, I should go with a 4-cell NIMH, right?

I think I am finally beginning to understand this... a little:D

Madd Matt

:wave: Generaly, more capacity (longer run time) equals less power. It's all a compromise.