rowle1jt
11-25-2002, 05:54 PM
LoL, I completely understand your point of view, and I am same way, if I go where they aren't legal I will run what it is. :)
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rowle1jt 11-25-2002, 05:54 PM LoL, I completely understand your point of view, and I am same way, if I go where they aren't legal I will run what it is. :) Jake WIGMAN 11-25-2002, 06:26 PM Jake did casey e-mail you those ppics yet? the track is sort of "D" shaped, it takes some getting used to but once you get the hang of it it is fast as heck. I turned the only sub 6 second laps of the day, Mostly it was 6.1's and 6.2's in the main, I'm sure when the 3 wise men get here and you guys from wisconsin the lap times will fall to the mid 5 second range. hopefully Jake will have some pics of the track posted soon, or whenever casey e-mails them to him. Later guys, Joel Howler 11-25-2002, 06:30 PM Hock just needs a little more punch at the W, lol. Right Hock? Only little less than two weeks untill the SOO. Hopefully I can kick this pnemonia. :roll: :roll: :roll: kevinm 11-25-2002, 09:13 PM Originally posted by rowle1jt I was hitting the same number of laps with my 4-cell car that some of the 6-cell guys were hitting. ...(partial quote) Jake What Jake failed to mention is that IF the 3 Wise Men and the Rotten Hanson Kid had run 6-cell, then Butch and I probably would have been fighting for the win in the B main. Or getting lapped 3 times in the "A".:p And that the only lead change in the 4-cell "A" main was when Jamie pulled over and let Keith pass him. 6-cell is STILL more fun, even if the lap count is the same. 6-CELL PAN CAR: JOIN THE RE-VOLT! rowle1jt 11-25-2002, 09:47 PM Kevin, I must admit, you do stand up for what you want. :) I can't drive a 6-cell car as good as I can drive a 4-cell, thats a fact. Ok, I know, my driving sucks. :p Jake hock 11-25-2002, 11:25 PM I liked the speed of 6-cell But with the cost saving I get from 4-cell I can't go go back. Hmmmm Buy 3new sets of tire for the 8 week season, or run the one set all year (provided they don't get chuncked of the rim cracks):rolleyes: t3rc1 11-25-2002, 11:31 PM I have to agree with hock.I noticed the first time i ran 4 cell at the Soo,There was little to no tire dust inside the body:D .With 6 cell :eek: the inside was black.I love 6 cell and always will but i really enjoyed myself at the Soo and the car was actually so much nicer to drive.,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Later all Scott kingpin 11-26-2002, 12:45 AM If you guys really want to save money and have fun with four cell, come on back to Legends racing. It don't get no cheaper nor more competitive than that. L E G E N D S - - R U U U U U U L E rowle1jt 11-26-2002, 10:03 AM Of course to race Legends, you have to be Kevin so you know how to make one handle or practice some satanic-voodoo cult to make the Legend Gods happy. :) I like Legends, but the class is a bit to rough for my liking. I know the cars are tough, thats what I learned to drive oval with. Hmmm maybe I should go back to Legends.... :D Jake t3rc1 11-26-2002, 07:02 PM I like legends also but for the same reason as Jake.I CANT GET ONE TO DO WHAT I WANT IT TO.Of course we ran our legends with 6 cell packs:eek: Maybe that was the problem:lol: But man they fly down the straights with a six cell and a stock MVP:D Scott rowle1jt 11-26-2002, 07:12 PM Legends really was fun, I can see my self getting into the Sprinter class.... :D I don't really want to run my TC3 at MP this year, the class has grown now to almost two heats, the reason I ran it was to build it up. So, here again, I find myself looking for another class. I dunno, kinda nice only racing one class, it gives me more time to chat with friends and work on my car. :) Jake kevinm 11-26-2002, 07:55 PM Originally posted by t3rc1 I like legends also but for the same reason as Jake.I CANT GET ONE TO DO WHAT I WANT IT TO.Of course we ran our legends with 6 cell packs. Maybe that was the problem. But man they fly down the straights with a six cell and a stock MVP Scott No "maybe" about it. Legends on 6 cells are nutzy-cuckoo. Stick with 4 cells for them, and don't allow any speed enhancing modifications. (Stronger bumpers are ok! :D Speed secrets available upon request) For the record: I am not opposed to 4-cell stock pan car (as long as I don't have to run it :p ). I just think that the experienced, "A" main (usually sponsored) drivers should move up to a faster class that requires more skill. Whether this means 4-cell mod, 19 turn, or 6-cell, as long as they're NOT in the class that should be viewed as a budget/entry level class. This would also be less intimidating for newcomers to the hobby/sport. rowle1jt 11-26-2002, 07:59 PM Like, I've said before Kevin, I agree with you, to some extent. I like 4-cell becasue I can stretch my dollar further (important to me!) and the fact that it allows me to drive the car, instead of fighting it around the track. :) Now for those secrects...... hopefully they will apply to Sprinters? :devil: With the Sprinters, isn't it any stock motor, spec pack, and spec tires? Anything else I need to know? What about gearing are we allowed to change it? Thanks Jake t3rc1 11-26-2002, 09:05 PM I totaly agree with you Kevin.I like to go fast but it gets expensive at times. I really think 4 cell is the way to go in learning the car and the setup because they are easier to drive and you dont have to worry about the first turn pileup:lol: as much.I ran 4 cell at the Soo and really enjoyed the racing much more than i thought i would.The speed is still there in a sence,but it isn't there as quick.Makes you focus more on setup than on controlling a missle:lol: I know guys like you and mel the other two fast guys and that Hanson Kid have it(control of that missle)and that is why i enjoy watching you all race in MT Pleasant so much,it's such close racing and fast.Think about it,i dont know if you know Casey(promatchracer)personally,but 4 cell has even made him a good driver:thumbsup: .He was hell on wheels with a 6 cell pancar,bouncing from board to board(ha ha)Now he is actually competitive.Ok Casey,im sorry for ripping on ya but hey,you need that once in awhile.Laters all..........P.S. What are the Marcy rules of legend racing?I've seen it in MT Pleasant on the flyer but never asked. Scott(t3rc1) James Hanson 11-27-2002, 01:08 AM I too would have run 19turn if I had owned a 19t. I am going to purchase one this week and start running that class instead of 4 cell stock. All the guys in 19t looked like they had a lot of fun and I wanted to be part of it. So yeah that is what I am going to start running. Casey. Tell me more about the DEC7th race. I want to come and have been talking to Sparks about it as well. how many heats? What time do you normally get done on sat? stuff like that. kingpin 11-27-2002, 01:48 AM Hey Jake. I was cleaning up that sprinter that I picked up the other day, and It seems that it is newer, or just in better shape that the one that I am driving. So--- when we race them, you will probably use my beater. Don't worry, Kevin loosened up one side of the chassis, and it was doing quite well as long as I was able to calm down and let off early enough going in. We will oil down the rears, and keep it loose so that you won't be airborne too often after the traction rolls.:lol: Dec. 7 is a go for me. Hope you can make it, but don't put a semester of work down the tube just to visit Joel and the gorilla. George rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:04 AM I'm still iffy on attendance. Do I want to go? HECK YEAH! All depends on next, week how much studying I can get done, amount of homework from EVIL instructors..... Yeah it really sucks..... Anywany, Sprinter sounds good, too bad you only have two and you have to sell one in Januray.......I might've bought it. :eek: :D Jake hock 11-27-2002, 11:07 AM Homework? What the problem. Check into a hotel nice and quiet. Lots of time also when cells are charging. :thumbsup: We expect to see you there:lol: rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:10 AM My multimedia/development computer is not exactly a lap top..... Like I said all depends on next week.....;) Jake mel 11-27-2002, 11:19 AM It would be nice if them young guns show up at the Soo. We will be staying at Days Inn. I would like to run some four cell 19 turn along with four cell stock so we would need Jamie and John to be there also. Hey George most people are in bed at one a.m. You must get a pretty good nap to stay up that late. Hi to all you Yoopers and Cheeseheads and am looking forward to racing with ya. :wave: hock 11-27-2002, 11:23 AM I'm almost ready to go. Perry call dave hiplert when you get the chance about how to get to your house rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:25 AM Days Inn is the best price at $45. Most others a $55-90. Mel, were we all in the Days InN last year? thanks Jake hock 11-27-2002, 11:28 AM we stay at super 8, 59 bucks incluiding tax with vip card hock 11-27-2002, 11:31 AM This year with our room full. We are fliping coins to see who sleeps in the roll-a-way odd guy out rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:33 AM Hock did you make your reservations yet? Days Inn is coming up at $45 for friday night on Expedia.com Just wondering, because if you haven't, you can save some money. Jake hock 11-27-2002, 11:39 AM Yup. It's nice and pretty new. Just checked for days inn on that site and it's 52.49 a night before tax Frank Ulbrik 11-27-2002, 11:46 AM So, Is anyplace putting on weekely club races? Myself, and a few other people are just looking for a place to race. :thumbsup: rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:55 AM Here in MI I don't know that anyone in the northern part of the state races every week, maybe Traverse City? Other than that, Lansing races every friday night (oval) and I think Grand Rapids might as well. Hock, Here is a screen shot of the Days Inn pricing I am getting. Are yo putting in 3 people? That might be the difference. :p Jake hock 11-27-2002, 12:04 PM YUP. Souinds silly but I got busted one time with more people in a room than were suppose to be. Wasn't fun dealing with cops,especially trying to find a new place after midnight. Of course if we hadn't been partying after a good day of quailifing things may have been different. We were a little noisy. :hat: But since then I always list all people. Racing get expensive paying for tresspassing fines. :rolleyes:. I'm sure it would not happen again., But once your busted you get a bit paranoid.:thumbsup: rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 12:11 PM Yeah, I can understand that. It was odd at last April's trophy race, George was rowdy and nearly got us kicked out.... LoL yeah right! I think it was him and Mel that convinced me it might not be a good thing to have puzzle car drag races in the hallway when we got back, at 11PM. :D Jake hock 11-27-2002, 12:17 PM We went to the first dome race at the Superior Dome race in Marquette,MI. Oh it must had been back in 91 or 92. College spring break was going on and the College girls were running around the hotel in all sorts of states of clothing.:devil: Guys were drinking beer and waxing ski's in the hall getting wax on the carpet. Who get's in trouble but our room for running a dyno and drag racing cars down the hall. :rolleyes:. Said we were to rowdy. We were just a bunch of cheeseheads enjoying the at the hotel before race day. :confused: Frank Ulbrik 11-27-2002, 12:18 PM How are the turnouts in lansing on fri night, and what classes do they run? thanks for the info. rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 12:29 PM As for Lansing, I'll leave that question to Mel, I haven't raced there, yet. :D I plan to but haven't so far. I preety sure there would be a 4-cell stock and a 4-cell 19t. I dunno, hopefully Mel will see this and give you some more input than I can. :) They are put on by the Hobby Hub, so if you wnat you can call and ask for Nick: (517)351-5843 Thats about the best I can do for ya, sorry. :) Jake James Hanson 11-27-2002, 01:08 PM Hey Frank U. Nice to see your name out and about again. How did you and Mike end up at the snowbirds warm-up race? I see Talbot just dominated 19t by what...2 or three laps. That must have been a site. As far as weekly racing....Lansing evey week. They locals there love 6 cell stock. If we take our own guys like mel, doug kieth greg and whoever else, there will be a 19t 4 cell class. Grand Rapids is always a fun track but from what I heard they have lost the current location and looking for a new one. But that is always a good time. BIG track and fast. Other than that.......Mount pleasant once a month, Traverse city every other Saturday, jackson once a month, I don;t know anything about this new track in Brighton. Maybe you know Frank, I heard Larry has a new place this winter... Is he running ANY oval or just roadcorase? I have to run though, maybe we will see you around. Tell your dad and Brother I said hello. ANd that guy Zuback too if you ever see him. Frank Ulbrik 11-27-2002, 01:16 PM From what I hear, brighton is supposed to be an indoor banked track, sort of like scooters used to be in oh. but thats all I know about it. Sounds like it could be cool. :dude: need to find some more info about the place. WIGMAN 11-27-2002, 01:47 PM Jamie, Trophy race in the Soo on the 7th, Practice the night before, Track set-up will start at 5:30 once track is set-up we will have practice till 10:30. We will be running 3 heats and 1 main for all classes. classes are 4-cell stock pan-car, stock truck, stock touring car, novice truck. Sat morning doors open at 8 a.m. signup at 11 racing will start at noon. we should be done racing by 5 or 5:30 unless alot more people show up than usually show up. If you need directions let me know and I will e-mail you the directions and maybe a map if your lucky. Most everybody is staying at the days inn, We started a tradition of meeting for breakfast at Sudabaker's which is right next to the days inn. we meet there at 7 a.m. If you or anyone else needs more info please ask , I will be happy to answer any and all questions. Later, Joel James Hanson 11-27-2002, 06:17 PM are you going to run 4cell 19turn as well or just 4 cell stock? Just wondering. Yeah I do need directions. I take it I need to bring tables and chairs myself as well as extension cords and all that jazz....... WHat time did racing end last year on saturday? mel 11-27-2002, 06:52 PM Hey Frank Jamie is right in where we have been racing. Lansing opens at 5pm, racing at seven. We have run four cell stock, four cell 19 turn (C1 and C2) and six cell stock. So you need to bring all you have because of this. If you race in Jackson we run six cell stock and four cell 19 turn. It has been and seems it will continue to be like this. The track in Brighton looks like they race on Fri. nights. Haven't been there yet though. Jake Days Inn is where we stayed before and that is where we are staying this time also. $45.00 a night with two double beds. Jamie Glad to here that you may be there. WIGMAN 11-27-2002, 10:16 PM 4-cell stock is what we are running, mel and some others have expressed an interest in running 19t also, if there are enough to do so we will, but that class will most likely run for ribbons as I haven't ordered trophies for that class. There needs to be at least 5 to run for trophies and you wouldn't get the trophy for a copuple weeks and I would have to mail them. As for directions , do you have microsoft works or microsoft word. I believe my map is in word. e-mail me at jwiggins88@30below.com and let me know and I'll get you the directions asap. Also, are you coming by yourself or are you bringing John along? We have alot of tables available, you might want to bring an extension cord, we have alot of chairs also. Later, Joel kingpin 11-27-2002, 10:43 PM Hi Mel. When you get old like me, you will find that your body dictates when sleep is necessary, and when it is not. If I am up late, then you are right, I probably had a nice nap earlier, usually when I would rather be awake doing something worthwhile like catching the end of a movie that I invested and hour or more in. I have been retired for 12 years now, and I am learning to do it very well. At Mt Pleasant the other day, I told someone that the biggest difference between me and my grandkids is that they have to go to school, otherwise our lives are the same routine--- Eat, Sleep, Play. Bet that makes you wish you were retired. George mel 11-27-2002, 11:20 PM Joel Don't worry about trophys. It is all about going fast, turning left and having fun. George I have been retired since March of 99. I agree about sleeping habits. I may get up at four thirty one morning and not get up till seven the next. If I get up early then a nap after lunch is a good posibility. I don't have any money but I enjoy myself more now days. To me a boring day at home is better than a good day at work was. rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:28 PM All this talk of retirement....and I'm not even started yet.... :eek: Jake rowle1jt 11-27-2002, 11:32 PM Not to be mean, and I mean no dis-respect at all, but you guys make me feel REALLY young! Just when I'm starting to feel old..... I'm one of the oldest in my office, when I felt real old is when I turned someone down to buy alcohol for them. No way am I playing that game, I got way too much to lose......:thumbsup: Jake chuck47 11-28-2002, 01:24 AM Sorry to hear about your dad Scott it's a tough row to hoe, my father in law went that way so I know what your going through. Hang in there and pray for him to not know the pain. chuck47 11-28-2002, 01:51 AM Jake so you like snow well we got 2 feet yesterday of the heavy wet stuff that's hard to move no matter what you move it with I wish I could send you some :thumbsup: kevinm 11-28-2002, 05:48 PM Originally posted by rowle1jt Now for those secrects...... hopefully they will apply to Sprinters? With the Sprinters, isn't it any stock motor, spec pack, and spec tires? Anything else I need to know? What about gearing are we allowed to change it? Thanks Jake Basically the same as Legends rules: keep it box-stock. Any stock motor and either a Street Spec or 1500mAh $20-or-less 6-cell battery. Gearing must be 48 pitch with an 81T spur, any size pinion you think will work (probably 17-20, depending on the motor). An aluminum left rear hub is allowed. The front wing is optional (and fragile!). The top wing is required, but the mounting of it can be changed to something more durable. The kingpin brace on the front is also allowed. kevinm 11-29-2002, 10:42 AM Here are the results from the October race. JON'S HOBBYS & WEST INTERMEDIATE RC CLUB - OCTOBER 26, 2002 -- LEGENDS - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 4 58 5:00.74 KEVIN MARCY 30 17.35 2 0 58 5:04.02 RICK RADABAUGH 50 17.16 3 3 54 5:03.79 MIKE CROLL 37 15.99 4 9 52 5:01.49 BRIAN CLIFTON 13 15.52 5 5 52 5:02.29 ROBBIE STONE 65 15.48 6 1 23 5:14.63 GEORGE FERGUSON 28 6.57 -- LEGENDS - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 2 50 5:04.42 KEVIN REVARD 71 14.78 2 3 45 5:06.22 DAVE MOYES 3 13.22 3 1 42 5:02.08 ROBERT PHINNEY 7 12.51 4 5 30 3:01.84 MIKE ANDERSON 73 14.84 5 6 21 3:27.80 STEVE JOHNSON 19 9.09 6 4 1 4:19.04 SCOTT NESTLE 60 0.34 -- MOD BUGGY - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 58 4:01.27 RAY CLARK 5 21.63 2 6 46 4:04.95 BRIAN BEUTLER 17 16.90 -- STOCK PAN CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 60 4:00.76 BUTCH BEEBE 25 22.42 2 1 58 4:02.27 KEVIN MARCY 32 21.54 3 4 58 4:03.90 DAVE ZIPP 57 21.40 4 2 54 4:01.64 JOHN ROHN 69 20.11 -- 6-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 2 50 4:03.75 TERRY WALCH 36 18.46 2 4 33 4:02.79 STEVE WALTON 44 12.23 3 1 17 4:03.34 ROBERT PHINNEY 8 6.28 -- MOD TRUCK - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 54 4:02.57 BUTCH BEEBE 26 20.03 2 1 50 4:00.99 RAY CLARK 6 18.67 3 2 47 4:04.33 JOHN ROHN 70 17.31 4 6 43 4:02.00 CHAD GITTUS 39 15.99 5 4 42 4:08.13 SCOTT NESTLE 59 15.23 6 7 37 3:39.33 JUSTIN MORAN 62 15.18 7 5 17 1:42.24 DAVE MOYES 4 14.96 -- TOURING CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 63 5:00.53 BUTCH BEEBE 27 18.86 2 3 62 5:00.60 MATT DUTHIE 12 18.56 3 2 37 5:11.57 MIKE ANDERSON 54 10.68 4 6 27 2:37.01 DAVE MOYES 15 15.47 -- 4-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 4 59 4:02.00 KEITH RACKNOR 21 21.94 2 3 58 4:03.59 JAMIE HANSON 11 21.42 3 5 56 4:00.70 JOHN SPARKS 53 20.93 4 2 55 4:04.06 MEL LETTS 58 20.28 5 1 54 4:04.23 GREG DEAN 72 19.89 -- 4-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 2 54 4:02.38 MARK CIECIEK 34 20.05 2 5 54 4:05.02 DAVE ZIPP 56 19.83 3 6 53 4:00.58 LUCAS FISCHER 55 19.82 4 4 51 4:05.15 JUSTIN MORAN 63 18.72 5 1 49 4:08.45 RICK RADABAUGH 52 17.74 -- 19 TURN PAN CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 53 4:00.91 ROBBIE STONE 64 19.79 2 3 52 4:01.05 DOUG TAFEL 75 19.41 3 2 45 4:03.85 CHRIS DIAMOND 66 16.60 -- STOCK BUGGY - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 44 4:04.19 LARRY JAMES 1 16.21 2 4 41 4:01.58 NICK WIDLER 16 15.27 3 5 39 4:02.86 JOE WATSON 49 14.45 4 7 34 4:01.21 JEFF PAWLOSKI 10 12.68 5 6 34 4:05.20 ZACH CARROLL 24 12.47 6 1 12 2:10.88 BRYAN RHODE 68 8.25 -- 2 --- DNS --- MIKE SCHUTT 41 -- SPRINT CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 2 51 4:03.77 BRIAN BEUTLER 18 18.82 2 3 50 4:04.47 RICK RADABAUGH 51 18.40 3 1 48 4:01.61 KEVIN MARCY 31 17.87 4 6 47 4:05.63 BRIAN CLIFTON 14 17.22 -- SPRINT CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 42 4:01.80 MIKE CROLL 38 15.63 2 4 42 4:02.61 SCOTT NESTLE 61 15.58 3 2 41 4:04.70 TERRY WALCH 35 15.07 4 1 33 4:05.68 GEORGE FERGUSON 29 12.08 -- STOCK TRUCK - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 4 39 4:02.98 LARRY JAMES 2 14.44 2 1 38 4:02.61 CHAD GITTUS 40 14.09 3 3 37 4:03.66 STEVE WALTON 43 13.66 4 5 36 4:04.54 JOHN QUINLAN 22 13.24 5 6 35 4:04.36 JEFF PAWLOSKI 9 12.89 -- STOCK TRUCK - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 38 4:09.09 RYAN SCHMUS 46 13.72 2 2 37 4:06.84 STEVE JOHNSON 20 13.49 3 1 36 4:02.81 TERRY STEPHENS 47 13.34 4 4 35 4:05.26 CHRIS STEPHENS 48 12.84 5 6 19 2:20.97 DAVID MARTINEZ 45 12.12 -- STOCK TRUCK - C MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 5 37 4:02.76 ZACH CARROLL 23 13.71 2 1 30 4:01.82 CLARK HARLESS 74 11.16 3 4 27 4:05.43 JASEN EVANS 42 9.90 4 2 27 4:07.05 TOM HAY 33 9.83 5 3 7 0:55.14 BRYAN RHODE 67 11.42 kevinm 11-29-2002, 10:45 AM Here are the results from the Jon's November race: JON'S HOBBYS & WEST INTERMEDIATE RC CLUB - NOVEMBER 23, 2002 -- LEGENDS - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 7 57 5:02.89 KEVIN MARCY 3 16.93 2 3 55 5:05.74 GLENN WILTSE 37 16.19 3 1 54 5:04.35 KEVIN REVARD 77 15.96 4 2 52 5:01.91 BRIAN CLIFTON 85 15.50 5 6 50 5:04.05 TERRY WALCH 52 14.80 6 5 49 5:01.15 MIKE CROLL 79 14.64 7 4 36 5:00.53 RYAN BURCH 39 10.78 -- LEGENDS - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 4 49 5:04.05 DAVE MOYES 69 14.50 2 3 42 5:00.53 MIKE ANDERSON 62 12.57 3 6 38 5:02.29 GEORGE FERGUSON 60 11.31 4 1 28 5:06.45 BRIAN BURCH 40 8.22 5 2 9 1:02.33 STEVE JOHNSON 6 12.99 6 5 1 4:09.12 ROBERT PHINNEY 43 0.36 -- 6-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 60 4:00.54 KEVIN MARCY 5 22.44 2 4 60 4:01.62 BUTCH BEEBE 48 22.34 3 2 57 4:02.93 JON ROHN 81 21.11 4 3 48 4:00.57 TERRY WALCH 50 17.95 -- 6-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 47 4:03.34 GLENN WILTSE 36 17.38 2 2 43 4:03.09 STEVE WALTON 32 15.91 3 1 42 4:10.03 KEVIN REVARD 83 15.11 4 4 22 4:10.52 MIKE ANDERSON 63 7.90 -- MOD TRUCK - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 4 53 4:02.00 BUTCH BEEBE 47 19.71 2 5 50 4:01.14 SCOTT NESTLE 71 18.66 3 2 46 4:00.99 JUSTIN MORAN 76 17.17 4 3 45 4:02.13 JON ROHN 82 16.72 5 1 43 4:03.09 DOUG TAFEL 59 15.91 -- TOURING CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 4 61 5:02.94 BUTCH BEEBE 49 18.12 2 5 56 5:00.53 DAVE MOYES 70 16.76 3 3 49 5:04.65 MATT DUTHIE 66 14.47 4 1 48 5:05.56 CHRIS DIAMOND 34 14.13 5 2 25 5:03.77 RYAN SCHMUS 13 7.40 6 6 24 2:45.03 DAVID MARTINEZ 15 13.08 -- 4-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 59 4:03.99 KEITH RACKNOR 54 21.76 2 3 59 4:04.19 GREG DEAN 73 21.74 3 4 58 4:01.23 JAMIE HANSON 42 21.63 -- 4-CELL STOCK PAN CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 52 4:01.72 MARK CIECIEK 68 19.36 2 4 52 4:02.34 JOHN SPARKS 80 19.12 2 2 47 4:01.68 JUSTIN MORAN 75 17.50 3 1 40 4:03.41 JAKE ROWLEY 38 14.78 -- 19 TURN PAN CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 2 62 4:01.79 KEITH RACKNOR 55 23.07 2 3 61 4:02.11 GREG DEAN 74 22.67 3 4 61 4:03.23 MEL LETTS 56 22.57 4 1 60 4:02.30 DOUG MCCALLUM 41 22.28 -- 19 TURN PAN CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 58 4:02.16 GREG SMITH 57 21.55 2 2 54 4:02.89 DOUG TAFEL 58 20.00 3 1 46 4:00.72 CHRIS DIAMOND 33 17.19 -- STOCK BUGGY - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 7 50 4:03.51 BRIAN BEUTLER 1 18.47 2 6 45 4:03.60 ZACH CARROLL 9 16.62 3 1 44 4:01.61 MIKE SCHUTT 30 16.38 4 4 42 4:00.75 LARRY JAMES 19 15.70 5 3 42 4:02.59 JOE WATSON 23 15.58 6 5 39 4:01.98 NICK WAIDLER 64 14.50 7 2 38 4:02.48 JEFF PAWLOSKI 21 14.10 -- SPRINT CAR - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 50 4:06.25 KEVIN MARCY 4 18.27 2 8 49 4:01.05 BRIAN BEUTLER 2 18.29 3 2 45 4:03.66 BRIAN CLIFTON 86 16.62 4 4 41 4:02.93 MIKE CROLL 78 15.18 5 3 35 4:08.39 GEORGE FERGUSON 61 12.68 6 5 3 1:56.30 SCOTT NESTLE 72 2.32 -- SPRINT CAR - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 45 4:02.12 TERRY WALCH 51 16.72 2 1 41 4:05.00 JOE WATSON 22 15.06 3 2 33 4:03.56 ROBERT PHINNEY 44 12.19 4 0 31 4:05.25 DON DIETSCH 27 11.37 5 4 7 0:42.27 NICK WAIDLER 65 14.90 -- 5 --- DNS --- RYAN BURCH 87 -- STOCK TRUCK - A MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 1 40 4:02.23 MATT DUTHIE 67 14.86 2 3 40 4:05.47 LARRY JAMES 18 14.66 3 6 38 4:01.75 ZACH CARROLL 10 14.14 4 5 34 4:04.38 STEVE WALTON 31 12.52 5 4 12 1:20.25 JEFF PAWLOSKI 20 13.45 6 2 8 1:22.73 RYAN SCHMUS 12 8.70 -- STOCK TRUCK - B MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 38 4:05.32 CHRIS STEPHENS 46 13.94 2 5 38 4:05.81 JOHN QUINLAN 28 13.91 3 2 36 4:03.86 TERRY STEPHENS 45 13.28 4 4 13 2:01.20 BRANDON HAGGARD 84 9.65 -- 1 --- DNS --- STEVE JOHNSON 7 -- STOCK TRUCK - C MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 3 31 4:02.53 CORY TEEGARDIN 17 11.50 2 2 31 4:05.54 DAVID BAKER 25 11.36 3 0 30 4:04.34 DON DIETSCH 26 11.04 4 4 27 4:00.54 TOM HAY 16 10.10 5 1 22 4:06.39 CLARK HARLESS 8 8.03 -- STOCK TRUCK - D MAIN -- pos car laps time name id avg.mph 1 5 32 4:02.65 TROY PACKER 88 11.86 2 3 28 4:03.75 JUSTIN POWELL 29 10.33 3 4 27 4:00.54 JASEN EVANS 11 10.10 4 2 22 3:28.92 ANDREW MOGG 53 9.47 5 1 16 4:00.94 DANIEL BAKER 24 5.97 6 6 1 0:15.29 DAVID MARTINEZ 14 5.88 rowle1jt 11-29-2002, 10:21 PM revived from the dreaded second page.....wish I were racing in Lansing tonight. :( Jake t3rc1 11-30-2002, 12:55 AM Thanx for the kind words Chuck47.Hope you are going to make the trophy race in the Soo.Looks like the fantastic 4 will be there.Will be nice to see the big guns again from the lower area.I guess i should have said(The three wisemen and that Hanson kid):lol: Sure is fun watching them race.Some day hey Chuck,maybe me and you will be able to drive like that:rolleyes:Soon as i can drive a pancar like the three wisemen,I'll get a TC.......:lol: Laters all Scott(t3rc1) vBulletin® v3.8.7, Copyright ©2000-2012, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
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