View Full Version : Carpet Racing in Northern Michigan



rowle1jt
11-06-2002, 07:21 PM
LoL..... too bad I didn't lay the paint. :D Tim Webber did, he is on the boards here as timwebber1.
Later
Jake

hock
11-07-2002, 09:23 AM
Thanks for coming last night Chuck. What time did you get home?

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 10:27 AM
HaHa! Beat you to it! Trying to drum up some conversation for that thread. :)

So how was the racing last night....??? Did chuck race 4-cell? All I know is that my first time racing 4-cell I got beat bad.....
Jake

hock
11-07-2002, 10:36 AM
Yeah he raced 4-cell. I think he wasn't used to the martinville type bull ring so getting the hag of it was time consuming. But each race I believe he got faster. I took the night off of racing for this weekend and helped out others so I didn't get to see much racing.

Four cell gearing is a little tricky to learn. We run 112 to a 116 spur and start around 4.25 for a ratio and go uip or down accordingly

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 11:13 AM
Scott, the PDF needs to be updated, the Soo IS running 4-cell, not 6-cell. I guess you will have to break your packs apart.... :)
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 11:19 AM
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW.Guess i wont be going to the soo this time.Not enough time to get everything done.Maybe sometime i will get to go but :cry: i guess not this time.Hope you all have a great time.

Scott

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 11:23 AM
Whoa Scott! I just wanted you to be prepared, I didn't want to drive you away! Ask Casey, he might have a 4-cell to loan you? ;)
Jake

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 11:24 AM
Joel would probably run a 6-cell class since there are three of you, atleast that way you'd be racing. :)
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 11:40 AM
I know Casey would let me borrow one cause thats the kind of guy he is,but i really hate to borrow things.If my packs werent so new i'd break them up but i really dont want to do that.The ones that i can break up are only 2000's and they are practice packs so my car would be like a boat anchor out there :lol: even more that it already does.I dont think Kevin knows either but he may.He never said anything about 4 cell when he called the other nite to assk me to go so im not sure on that one.It would be so cool to see the gang again though so i might just go along for the ride and not race.:thumbsup:

Scott

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 11:45 AM
You know you can't go and not race....silly! :)
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 12:19 PM
That will be a hard thing to do:( I am really debating breaking up two of my new 2400's so that would give me three packs to race with but i would have to practice with 6 cell packs.that would do nothing as far as telling me how to set up for 4 cell.Im not even sure if i have the gearing to run 4 cell(what spur and pinion)or even a starting point to go by.Running 6 cell meant 128 spurs and i think the smallest i have is 112 in 64 pitch so i am limited in gears.That is the main reason for not racing 4 cell this time,i would have to buy gears and whatever else i dont have and i really cant afford to spend alot right at the moment.I know gears arent that much but add the cost of gas to get there and back,food,entry fee,and of course plenty of MTN DEW:thumbsup: it adds up quick.As far as borrowing stuff,i tend to have bad luck with other peoples things,not bad luck racing but bad luck breakage wise:lol: .If i can get a ballpark figure on the gearing to see what i have and if i have it,i may change my mind and race 4 cell.I know it is fun and easier on the car and wallet:D so dont get me wrong,i have done 4 cell and had a blast but i am all set up for 6 cell at the present time.I really want to race(been sniffing the PARAGON already)so if you can help me out with the gearing thing i'll see what i can do and work from there.Thanx for all the info and help Sir Jake and i hope to see you troll bunch soon:lol: Take care.

Scott

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 12:23 PM
Hock maybe you can jump in here??? I think 4-cell is starting somewhere around 112-116 whit like a 25 pinion? Don't hold me to that but I think its close. :)
Jake

hock
11-07-2002, 12:29 PM
At trackside this weekend which is pretty close to the same size as the soo. We run 112 or 116 spur. I gear anywhere from a 34 to 37 tooth pinion (depends on the motor). 2400' so you can run more than once a day. Twice is there max 2400's will work more than fine for 4-cell I would be runnng 2000's if mine were any good so now I run them for practice. After 4 min I have over 90 seconds left on them.:D and They are crap 2000's But the nice thing about 4-cell is it take the battery war out because it's not about acceleration. It's about corner speed. With 4-cell you should never have to let off on a track that big. 4-cell is fun once you get used to not ripping off every turn

hock
11-07-2002, 12:31 PM
I can try to help out as much a s posible. I hafta leardn to typew bedder tho

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 12:31 PM
Hock, thanks and disregard your e-mail. :)
Jake

hock
11-07-2002, 12:33 PM
3000's are nice but it takes a long time to discharge the left over runtime :p

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 12:35 PM
3300's take even longer...... :D
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 12:36 PM
Gee Thanx guys.I have the gearing in my box so i guess i'll have to break up a couple packs.I was hoping i had what i would need for gearing cause i need ro race,I mean I NEED TO RACE!!!!!!!!!!!!!.Excuse me for that little outburst but i needed to do that:lol: Looks like i may be racing after all,i still have to get ahold of Kevin and let him know about it.Im sure he will break some packs up cause he was really pumped when he called me tues night.Hey HOCK.Are you guys going to make it up there this weekend?Hope to see you all there.Thanx again for the info guys and take care.......

Scott

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 12:42 PM
5 minutes of my time, to get you to race? Yeah its worth it. Have fun this weekend. :thumbsup:
Jake

PS I'm sure Hock doesn't mind helping, he seems like a nice guy, alsmost as nice as me.... :D

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 12:46 PM
:D Yaaaaaa.Hock and Perry and the guys are good people and they;ve helped us out before,Now if i could only catch them on the track i could thank them:D or maybe i should just holler it to them as they lap me for the third time:lol: .Later and thanx all

Scott

hock
11-07-2002, 12:48 PM
IT'S THE ONLY WAY I'M GETTING IN TO HEAVEN:D. Actually Perry and I are heading to Milwaukee for the ROAR reg 5 championships this weekend.
We will be up for the DEC 7 race. Riping the packs apart will go faster than you think.

1st rule of 4-cell: Don't panic You may be real fast but over 4-min
Like I said, You will not accelerate like the 6-cell class but can get up to the same speed with gearing. 2nd, and get the car faster iwth car setup. not gearing (unless there blowing by you) more often than not it's chassis instead of motor. 6-cell allowed you to have your chassis off and be competive. once everyone gets there cars tuned it's fun to see a nice frieght train of cars running nose to tail with out the pile up in the turn and/or out of the turn

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 12:56 PM
Tossed some pics in the Term Pro thread. :)
Jake

Oval god
11-07-2002, 01:14 PM
First off, it was a pretty good night of racing at the W. Other than having the LCD screen on my laptop crack like a giant cornflake.
A SPECIAL THANKS TO CHUCK FOR MAKING THE TRIP DOWN. YA DID WELL.

oh, and HOCK. HUKED O N Fonik s Wurks FUR MI. Maybe you should try it, LOL. :p :wave: :devil:

hock
11-07-2002, 01:15 PM
HAV U SEAN MI BASEBALL?:(

Oval god
11-07-2002, 01:20 PM
I've got your baseball right here Warren!:D

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 01:38 PM
Well,,,,,,,,,I just talked to Kevin and the Soo is a go for us.He is willing to rip some packs to make the race so look out Promatchracer,We're gunnin for ya:lol: Just kidding Casey,what fun would it be if i couldnt give Promatch a hard time.See ya all in the SOO...........:wave:

Scott

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 02:22 PM
Scott, Glad you guys are still going. :) Are you still running carpet in Escanaba?
Later
Jake

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 02:44 PM
Originally posted by Oval god oh, and HOCK. HUKED O N Fonik s Wurks FUR MI. Maybe you should try it, LOL. :p :wave: :devil: You guys are starting to talk to like Casey.... :D LoL just joking. :)
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 05:02 PM
:( sorry.......no carpet racing in Escanaba this year.We have no building and no time to get it going again.Not alot of interest last year so it's not worth it to set up a program for just 4 of us.As you know the off road is kabosh also in Esky......I havent raced since june so i will be on the rusty side saturday.I may even be so rusty that Casey will actually look like he improved:lol: (just kidding Casey).See ya all later.

Scott........GEE I WONDER IF CASEY WILL HAVE ANY TIRES HE WANTS TO SELL THAT WILL FIT MY X15?HINT HINT?????????????:lol:

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 05:10 PM
I'm sure Casey has some tires he will sell you, as I'm sure you're well aware that anything Casey has is always for sale..... :lol:

As for racing in Esky, I can understand not running of there is no interest. That is just too bad, what did you guys do with the carpet you had?
Jake

hock
11-07-2002, 05:20 PM
Like I said you will have to join us in gren bay

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 06:16 PM
We still have it.It is stored on the rolls in Kevins storage shed.It is like new yet as we only had one season of weekly racing on it and it was bought brand new.Not sure what we are planning on doing with it yet but it's in a safe dry place.Hock,,,,,,The time's are not good for me or Kevin to race in GB.I work from 7:30 am till 7:30 pm and Kevin is working nights.We are going to have to woit till you guys have a weekend race and we will come.Maybe you will get more racers than last year:D ,Biggest turnout we ever were a part of.Had aa great time and we are looking forward to it again.Later all........

Scott:wave:

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 06:18 PM
I was just wondering what you guys had done with your carpet, I was unaware that you guys bought it new. Thats a big expense to swallow for a new club. :eek:
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 06:39 PM
One of the people who raced with us works in management for the Chip in Casino and they put up the money and we paid them back in payments from entry fees and club treasury.They only charged us for half the carpet and they donated the other half.We raced the first year in the new Hannahville school gym and the turnout was good,but it was quite a drive out in the sticks.Then when that person couldnt get time to race rc anymore(he races the real offroad trucks)we moved to a small building in Esky and everything went downhill from there.So glad that there are still a few tracks left cause i have spent tooooooooooooooooooooooooo much money on all this stuff and i hate to not use it:( .

Scott

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 06:41 PM
What would be cool is if you could get it to the Soo for a weekend, then we could have a REALLY big track. God that would be awesome! A lot of work but to have that big of a track would be to cool. :)
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 06:45 PM
Our carpet when all laid out has 198 foot running line,,,,,,It is hella big,and fast.It is big enough to run MOD on:eek: I bet 4 cell would have been killer on it also.Who knows,maybe Kevin and i will throw the idea around and see what could be done.:thumbsup:

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 06:47 PM
Like I said, a whole lot work, but man would it be fun. We could have like 350+ foot running line, if the Big Bear is big enough.... LoL :)
Jake

t3rc1
11-07-2002, 06:53 PM
Just the thought of that big of a track and Casey with a pan car:eek: makes me shake:lol: The world of R/C would never be the same.................:lol:

Promatchracer
11-07-2002, 06:54 PM
I finally caught up reading don't you guys use Yahoo
Gees

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 06:55 PM
Not when I want every one else to see it. :P
Jake

Promatchracer
11-07-2002, 06:57 PM
Hey guys Time for my sells pitch too
I have some GP3300's at a decent price if you guys have the extra dough or stuff to trade
Also I might be able to hook you up with tires But unfortunatly I can't sell them for $5 a pair anymore
I don't have access to them taht cheap
I hope to see all you guys there this weekend
How many are coming from the West
I know Jake will be here
So We might have 2-3 classes of Pan

Kewl

chuck47
11-07-2002, 06:58 PM
Hock I got home a little after 3:00 with a lot of deer keeping me company along the way. I had a lot of fun and am looking forward to next month. I broke the t bar in the woods last night so it looks like I will have to have my G-Force as my primary car and try to find a t-bar for a back up car with the woods. Gotta go to work I'm on 12 hour nights see ya. :wave:

Promatchracer
11-07-2002, 06:58 PM
I am logging off for about 4 minutes don't go adding 2 more pages okay

rowle1jt
11-07-2002, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by t3rc1
Just the thought of that big of a track and Casey with a pan car makes me shake The world of R/C would never be the same.................:lol:

Just imagine that though for second though, we are used to a 200 or less foot running line oval, that would be too cool. But only if you could see that far and still judge the corners correctly..... :)
Jake

PS so he can imporve the speed of his reading, maybe Casey should get: "hukt on foniks tu" :lol:

WIGMAN
11-07-2002, 10:19 PM
Hey Jake, you would have loved the dome race up in marquette, 1/8 of a mile indoor running track, talk about fast and hard to score by hand on a computer, we had to have 2 people calling numbers for the pancars, i was basically in the middle of the track trying to see the numbers and had to literally jump over cars that were out of the "groove" so they wouldn't hit me.
It was tottaly awesome, casey and I ran touring cars for the first time on that track, I geared the car he let me run to the moon in the first heat cuz I had no clue where to start, I dumped a brand new 3000 pack in 2 minutes and 19 seconds. I didn't get past for the lead till after the 3 minute mark thats how fast my car was the first heat.
Then Perry(aka.oval god) and I had a great battle in the main after I geared down to make runtime, we were side by side for like 2 1/2 minutes, rubbin through the corners and everything, then I broke a ballcup and went head on fullspeed into a volley ball net stantion, it wasn't pretty lots of parts went flyin', however I did finish the race and either finished second or third.


oh....don't get your hopes up about a bigger track, we could make it bigger but we wouldn't have any pit space left.

Call fred, the one who is doing the jcc races and tell him to build the monster oval again, i believ the running line was somwhere around 400 ft.
It was really cool, ask casey, he will remember.

later, see you all tommorrow, Joel:wave:

rowle1jt
11-08-2002, 09:30 AM
You were telling me about this one day, I don't know if it was MARS or what. That would have been real cool. I could deal with that, I'd try it atleast once. :D

As for the big track in the BBA, how much pit space is really needed? :)
Jake

hock
11-08-2002, 09:44 AM
Somewhere in his house Oval God has a "tape" of the Dome race. That was always fun. Everytime we ran there, Except the one year they ran Radio Shack Cars. Not that I don't think kids should run them. It was just watching them get 3/4 to 1 lap in 4 min.:lol: Couple of hours here at work then off to Regionals. I'm coming driving back and forth so I may be able to give a little race report.

:thumbsup:

rowle1jt
11-08-2002, 10:18 AM
A little race report would be cool, you have a digital camera to take pics with? LoL I want to see pics of you and Perry "Terminating" the competition.

LoL, I couldn't resist the pun..... :)
Jake

hock
11-08-2002, 10:19 AM
:p :roll: :p

rowle1jt
11-08-2002, 03:58 PM
I did a little more work on the euprc.com site. The text is a little smaller and you should be able to see all of it from any browser with any screen resolution. :)

Let me know what you think. :D
Jake

www.euprc.com