Brain,

Just wondering why you are thinking about getting out? Is it because of the the snowbirds?

brooks

Brian: I never at the pleasure of meeting you or racing against you but if you get out of this sport, it will be a great loss! Hopefully, you make the right choice and enjoy what ever you do!!!

Brian - Shoot me an email or give me a call. :D

metrodog - Same for you please. Need to talk about a couple of things. Thanks!!! :thumbsup:

brd- the snowbirds didnt have anything to do with it...im not even sure what im doing yet...the snowbirds was a great race and one you should go to just to say you were there...ive been losing the passion for the hobby for a while now but im hoping a small break might help me get some of it back.

al- thanks for the good words and i wont totally go away...im still going to try and continue to post here to help people as much as possible..we will see what the next couple months bring and maybe ill get some renewed vigor.

brian you will not quit! cause i said soooooo!:thumbsup:

brian- coming from personal experience i think takin a well deserved break from racing or whatever you love doing will probly give you the drive to get back into it. and probly have more fun when you do. my own opinion of course. later

more center corner speed my car is fast in the straits but loses 3-4 car lengths in the middle of the corner any help is appreciated the car is a kgb assasin2k2 with long rear pod

brian - you're probably burnt out. i've done that in several hobbys and it happens to everybody. if your a sponsored driver, it seems like there's pressure to perform. you have to win and that's what you're paid for (i think..shoot, i don't know). best advice anybody could give is take a break. if ya decide to race, do it locally, don't do it nationally.....just have fun.

DROPKICK 78 - what track and what set up are you running?

Brian,

Don't go off and pull a Warren Strong/Jimmy Holland move. You are one of the best in this hobby. Your presence will be strongly missed.

Eric Dimmick
Darkside Motorsports

Brian - Brooks:
Can you guys offer a basic starting setup for the KSG. I have one on order, be here next week. I am a TC guy jumping into oval. Track is 132' banked track. 14 degrees in the turns and 7 degrees on the straight. Track lanes are 10' wide.

Thanks.

I can offer you some help if you drop me an e-mail I will see if I can get you going "left"

I will need to know what class you are run and what kind of surface is on the track.

brooks

bderting@co.iredell.nc.us

Brian, Below is that thing that my wife wrote while you were giving the discussion at Race Rock last summer. Maybe this will hit a soft spot and make you reconsider hanging it up. . .

Send this to Brian before he hangs it up!

What A sight!

I'm sitting here watching what I find one of the strangest things. Men paying attention. As if the words coming out of this man's mouth were straight from Heaven. This one man named Brian that all of these grown men have came to stand by and stare at, hanging on every word. The topic...R C Racing! The only language these men hear right now!

They have laid aside their lives, professional lives, lives as husbands and dads to come and play with the other boys whose only interest is having fun! To be a little boy again and play with toys that only grown men can afford. To dream Nascar moments and pretend to be Tony Stewart, Jeff Gordon, or maybe a little Earnhart. You can see it in their eyes and in the hands that they use to carefully and lovingly assemble small cars to compare to the Big Ones!

It's really amazing and heart-warming to watch such enthusiasm in their eagerness to run. To have control over the speed and the pure pleasure of competition even if it's on a small scale.

OK! So maybe I don't get it like they do! But I can tell you that watching such concern and enjoyment from grown men playing far surpasses any ignorance of R C Racing on my part. You have only to spend one race with these guys to fully understand that THEY do get it!!!

Brian,

I will trade you two snowblowers for all your stuff? Negotiable of course.

Lata


Ziggy

Hey Brian, I to was there at RaceRock when you did you little seminar that Barry G's post was about. Everyone needs a break once in a while and I'm sure we all understand.We here in Florida went thru a little racing withdrawl when "Thunder Raceway" closed down, but we all got renewed spirit when Boylan put together his little racing deal. Remember we enjoyed all the contributions you made to this thread and also enjoyed the racing "shows" you put on.

Just take a few extra golf lessons and when you start wiffing the ball while it sits on the tee then I'm sure the transmitter shall replace the club.

Thaks for your input!!

zig, you talk a good game...... one word to the wise, don't come north, it ain't done snowing yet!

to everyone on this thread i really appreciate the words of encouragement...this hobby has brought many good friends and many good times as well...if i do get out i wont forget any of these times or people...i may stay in and try to avenge my horrible showing at the snowbirds...many thanks to everyone on here and i may lay low until the carpet nats and see what happens.

Barry- that was a great piece your wife wrote and that race was the most fun ive had in a very long time...no pressure and just a good time with people who want to do better and have more fun at the same time...i thank her for this and its nice that someone on the outside looking in may have finally got why we put ourselves thru the misery of long hours and tough competition just to have a bit of fun with the good people we meet in this great hobby.

ziggy- it will take more than a snowblower but thats not a bad start.

300m- i would start with a pretty standard setup...run the pod straight up, you can start with the stock t-bar to save some money with a blue left side spring and a gold right side spring..center depending on how bumpy it is but probably like an associated red buggy spring cut down with 60wt oil..30 in the side shocks...the front end id run associated .020 springs and the front end in a relatively stock configuration...middle holes on the caster blocks...try this and it hopefully will get you close...anymore questions let me know.

I can garauntee that Ziggy ISNT going to trade you any of his Budlight for your stuff!! LOL... Hey Brian come on up to WI for the nats....Im going up to try my luck with the new tire program.

eric a

Hey Brian I no I'm not as good as you on carpet but I took a lot worse ASS whiping than you did so shake it off and go to the carpet NATS with me and Eric at least we can get practice be for we race !!!!!! I no I will drink a lot of BUDLIGHT!!!!!!! HAVE FUN SEE YA HACKSAW

Thanks Brian. I should get the car the end of the week. Cannot wait. :)

Brian, Take a break, chase women for awhile. You'll come right back to racing. Might not be as much fun, but definately less frustrating, and cheapero too:rolleyes:

wouldnt be cheaper than racing because id have to pay for my divorce...not cheap at all!!

Been there and done that Brian 2 times !!!!!! Now I just go out and find some woman I don't like and buy her a house every 10 years!!!!! HEHE SEE YA HACKSAW

Brian - just in case you get the urge in the next 7 days or so, the ROAR Region 2 Oval Championships are at ThunderRoad in Limerick, PA on 8,9 March. You have a membership. You can get another race out of it by attending. Even just a cammio appearance would be cool.

david i cant race because all my stuff is in NC..ill see what im doing and maybe go up there if i get a chance.

Hi Brian,I have a rc10l30 with the four cell sliding tray.You had posted a set up for aggressive steering.It had a steel t-plate,60w oil with a red associated off-road spring for the center shock. The left side shock had a red spring with 35w oil. The right side shock had a gold spring with 35w oil. I just want to say thanks, it had a ton of steering!I also have a question. What do you think of replacing both side shocks with dampening tubes? I was thinking of using the ones from CRC.I will be racing the car on a sealed concrete track that will be sauced.The rules I race under prohibit using a wing.Thanks again.

outlandr- i personally dont like the dampener tubes versus shocks because you can only adjust dampening and not spring rate...its harder to adjust rebound and compression with the stick versus the shock..not to say that the stick wont work but you limit your adjustments with it.

Brain,

Seeing how all your stuff is in North Carolina way don't you come and race with us in Loris South Carolina, www.bigdogrc.com is hosting a race at Shoebuckle raceway. We should have a really good turn out. The race pays out in Bigdogrc gift certificates. And we are paying out 40% on entry to win in each class. You can go to www.bigdogrc.com to find out more. I hope that you will come at have some fun

Brooks

BRD- my stuff is actually on the way back to me here in MD...have to get prepared to go the carpet nats so i wont be able to get down there.

Question? I remember some time ago someone asked this question. I can't find the answer, it's here somewhere. anyway. I'm loosing alot of speed in the corners on a banked carpet track with my L3O. The track is K&N In Stafford Conn. My set up is Blue up front, Black springs, r/f -2 camber l/f +2 camber(or visaversa i forget)green on r/r blue on l/r. 30wht and black spring center, 30wht and blue right side and 30wht silver on left side. with a little tweak to the right? With out looking at my sheet i'm not 100% sure of this set up but it's close to what i was running. any help would be great.

Racer00: What class are you running at K&N? Those banked corners suck up alot of torque. You may try less pinion. Many of the fast cars I've seen there have low profile tires. 2.15- 2.20 :roll:

RCRacer00 there should be a good group of guys there is weekend to ask. mark z, jason l, charlie s, ted c, and many others to lend a hand. theres alot of setup in the radio for that track. the car may be fine you just need one of the locals to show you the way around that place. the last time i was there i ran blue lf, dblue rf, green lr, and blue rr.

offcenter. I'm running stock 4 cell of course. my tire size sinday was 2.20. I could try a smaller pinion. but i had a 100/35, slow. changed to a 37 got better. i also found some issues with my motor as well. I had a basic green machine not a pro. not broken in. so If i make some changes in the motor dept. that will be one problem. I need to try and get to the track more often on a regular basis and meet people get some help. I know Bob Pedone he help me alot sunday with gearing. Thanks again.

00 were your laptimes slower or just the look down the straights. The GM3 really wants to see a comm cutalignment, aftermarket brushes a red+ green - spring and a proper break in. If you don't do it your times will definately suffer. If the car drives ok it will all be in the motor/ gearing. If you are not equipped to do the work try asking someone at the track to help. An out of the package stock motor is not competitive. Thats why you see so many with Dynos and lathes. After each qualifier go to the board and cut out your lap times, It is the best tool to record improvements (or disapointments)! Hope this helps :thumbsup:

Your 100% correct offcenter. I have the equiptment to make my motors better. I'm going to cut and tune this green machine and try it again.

Brian,
By changing the angle of a side shock(decreasing the degrees)this will make it softer right? will moving is a few degrees be the same as changoing oil and spring or is it in between?
Thanks, Dave

changing the side shock angle really effects how much the car will roll.the less angle the car will roll more due to the fact the spring and shock are less progreesive, not getting as stiff when compressed as if they had alot of angle to them. ther inital (sp) force is the same but as the pod moves to the side the force is less with less angle. i hope that made sense.

Cool!!! Thanks a lot.....
Dave

hey guys sorry its been a while since i was on here...kind of crazy but should be back in the swing of things to answer questions if you guys still want to do it.

Always will listen to yur advice Brian :)

Brian,

We are talking about big spurs VS small spurs on the leading edge thread and was just wondering what your take on it was,I've always been told to run as big a spur as possible,some are saying it doesn't matter.I just didn't know if there was any factual basis for the big spur argument.

Thanks

Bingo! I would definatly like to hear on this. I am an engineer and to me a ratio is a ratio. I do realize that rollout will effect your ratio, but I do not see major losses effecting the ratio. Confused and just trying to get a handle on this.

Got a question. I've got a terrible push from the middle out. I think there is a small fracture across the t-plate. it's a slightly discolored to a lighter color. could this be my problem. I think I've tryed just about everything else. Noticed the discoloration after racing was finished

pepe- the big gear small gear debate will always rage on but here is what i know about it....as far as overall speed or torque it should not matter at all because you are still going to arrive at the same final ratio...the difference is that bigger gears are truer to their actual pitch making them slightly more efficient thatn a smaller gear...will you actually see this on the track? its very doubtful...hope this confuses you and adds fuel to the fire...hehe..just kidding.

hock- the t-bar with a stress crack is definetly not helping matters any...it will change how the car rolls in the corner and could be causing the push...i would change and see how the car reacts..you also might want to check your wheelbase because if you hit something hard enough to crack a tbar you might have something else out of alignment.

Thanks Brian on the big gear/small gear issue. I am going with my instinks on this and stay with my 120 gear vs the 112.

Thanks I didn't notice it til after racing was done. It is a very fine crack becasue even now that I know it's there it is really hard to see. I now also noticed that when I pivot the pod by hand the t-plate does not flex between the pivot balls. I'll put in a spring steel one tonight.

What up Brian , Are you going ot nationals or the sandhills race???Hope you are really to race again /// See ya SRM :wave:

hope this confuses you and adds fuel to the fire...hehe..just kidding.

Brian,
I'm one of them that says it doesn't matter. But I don't know it all either. In YOUR experience, what have you found? Have you found that car "snaps" off the corners better like some say? The other end of the spectrum is if the smaller gear weighs less then it should feel "snappier" than a large one. I realize the whole "flywheel" effect on weight and all, but really, the spur weighs so little compared to the car can it really make a difference?

I am partially under the belief that aftermarket companies want people to run bigger spur gears so they have to buy aftermarket side plates. LoL

I didn't ask to stir up contreversay or anything, I'm just curious as to your thoughts on the big/little spur debate. :)

I run whatever is needed for rear total wt.Small for more wt. and larger for more front wt.. Just my worst 2 cents ///SRM :wave:

Thanks Brian,
I've never been able to tell any diffrence on the track either so I guess I'll just call this one a "personal preference"

Brian
You mentioned Touring oval. IS there a listing of the rules for this class?? I think we have generated some intrest.
Thanks