Brian,
Thanks. My car was the best ever. Every tip helped my setup. I never had a better 19 turn chassi setup!.

For stock the car was excellent but was a bit slow in the corners. What should I look for to pick up my speed. IE is hard tires soft springs faster ?

Hey Brian
I have a 1/12 scale question . I have a 12L3Oval running 4cell 19turn. The car is perfect in and out of the corner but I was told it "drifts" in the middle of the turn. I am running without a wing and the guy I'm trying to catch runs one. Will a wing give me more side bite and cure this problem? Is there anything else I could try? Also, in 1/12 scale are the side shocks slowwing me down in the corner by binding the car up? Should I take the springs off the side shocks and run tweak screws?

Thanks,
Tom

Anyone out here have a link to or downloadable set up sheet available for oval racing. I'd like to have one I can load into the laptop or printout to keep rack of setups. The one I've seen has provisions for and diagrams of the whole chassis, With an area for motor specs, tire size/compound, rollout etc. Unfortunately I didn't get a hold of one to copy.

hey offcenter, try this one, it has everything except where your thumb and index finger was on the controler http://www.classichobbiesraceway.com/SetupSheet/

Brian,

How does the angle of the center shock affect the car?

Thanks I got it. By the way radio settings on that sheet wouldn't be a bad idea.:devil:

You can get setup sheets on the Leading Edge page as well. :)
Jake

www.leadingedgerccars.com

Offcenter,

I had never really thought about it,but that's a killer idea for the setup sheet it would probably make for a two page set up sheet but hey the more information you have the better.I'll E-mail the guy that made that classic hobbies sheet and make the suggestion.

Hey Howler and Hock I'm ready getting things together for the race tonight:roll: I may be short on batteries, question can you run NIMH batteries twice in a night if so I'll do ok in that department. I may run 6-cell just to get driving time which I need a lot of. I think I have the car set-up right here's hopeing:D let's race:roll:

RC-Oval.com has an Oval Set-up Sheet in MS Excel that you can download and enter information into.

http://www.rc-oval.com/

... then click on "Useful Info" at the bottom of the page, and then "RC Oval Setup Program Download".

:wave:

If you have a futaba 3pj there is a data sheet in the back of the manual for your radio settings make a copy and staple it to your setup sheet. :cool:

superslow- im glad the setup tips helped..yes harder tires and softer springs are usually the way to go.

TOME- the wings on most cars today are more for sidebite like you said...they do create downforce but the sidbit is more critical and it sounds like that will certainly help your problem.

pepe- to be quite honest ive never really played with angle alot..in theory the flatter the center shock is the less overall traction the car should have because the weight is not shifitng in a downward motion but is in essence is being wasted because its shifting directly out instead of down.

Brian- I have a sedan that I am going to be racing on the oval this year at the birds and was wondering if I could get some set-up tips.
Thanks

O.K., Burkie you have gone way over the top on this one, every now and again I stick my nose in this thread to see how my old carpet fag buddy Burkie is doing, now I see your confusing crapet with real racing terms like "side bite". I have raced crapet before and only one time did my car need more "side bite"....I think you can recall a W.B. carpet national when a strapping young buck ran your 1/12 scale mod/6cell car,with 1/4 inch of stagger...and he won going away!.....lololololol what a ride that was......we had some great times up here in N.Y..........DP27


P.S. for you carpet guys!
(Stagger: The difference in the hieght between left and right side tires!)...lololol.....see ya soon Burkie. :lol:

ziggy...take 8 shots of jack daniels and wait for the buzzer to go off and youll be fine...the car will be on STILTZ!!!

DP27- there will never be anyway to forget that race...its hard to teach a dirt guy new tricks like destagger...now you know you can always use more side bite...especially when sliding thru the grass at a mall at about a buck O five.

Hey Ziggy your car looked good at BIGDADDYS warmup race you will be hard to beat @ the Birds if you can get it to work on that FL rug!!!!!! Had mine fast at BIGDADDYS but the track changed on me maybe I can find it in FL!!!!!!!!SEE YA HACKSAW:devil:

Hacksaw, Thank You, I appreciate the complement. It is going to be very tough in Florida. I am hopeing for some good luck. Best of luck to you in Florida and I am sure I will see you around.


Burkhardt: Your help is appreciated. See you at the Birds on Monday.


Ziggy

Well Brian, are you ready yet? Time for team Jaco to lay it down! See ya monday, Walter

in regards to shock angle, i don't know that it so much transfers weight, as gives the shock a firmer or softer feel. from what i understand, the more of an angle the center or side shocks are, the more friction is between the shaft and the o-rings. therefore, if you flatten out the angle the shocks set at, it would be like putting a softer spring, or lighter oil in the shock, and vice versa for increasing the shock angle. just my 2 cents on it though lol

The only thing I can say to that is "AIR BURKIE"....lololol:lol:

walter- not even close to being ready but ill be there...not being ready every other year has worked so far.

hey there everyone..its about that time to trek to the airport and get to some warm weather..oh yeah and a little bit of racing...hope to see many of you down there...we can continue some of these questions in person and after we all recover from the woodstock of R/C we can get this thread going again...it has been a great year with this thread and i hope the info has helped everyone who has participated..i look forward to continuing to answer your questions. see everyone down there.

Hey Brian,
I have a question. Do you think it is worth buying the bias upgrade chassis for my RC10L3. I am 14 and buying that chassis would be quite a large purchase. I know that it has the sliding battery tray and all, but I'm curious if it would really be a good investment?
Thanks!

PS If any of u guys viewing my question and want to see some cool oval pages check out my site! www.rcovalracinglinks.2ya.com

Jesse

Brian: Good luck at the 'birds!

I have a q about speedo and rx position. I am currently running a pro parts car ( the new one) and thge rx is on the left side.....i want to try this setup with a switchblade or a wfo, or a savage, when would you recomend running the electronics towards the left side? If it is not designed to the car, should i use it as a last resort/ quick fix?
Also, what do you think a swaybar does to corner speed? I have an efficient setup right now but am thinking if i should try a sway bar.....flat ozite oval......114 runline......
Thanks a lot for having this thread....lmk
Dave

PS: Jesman499 if looking at the L3 upgrades, look at the pro parts cars......the new one runs great! Efficient in the corners....
www.propartsrc.com

That web site has some pretty tricked out upgrade chassis. Thanks for given me the site.

speedfreak_on_the_oval, from what i understand, running your rx and esc on the left will put more weight on that side causing more weight to transfer to the right side of the car, and loosening it up. this isn't a last resort or a quick handling fix, and can be run on any car you want to run like that. flat oval, shoot, try it and see...couldn't really hurt.

as for a swaybar, if you're running side shocks on the rear, there's no real reason to use them since you can fine tune the roll of the car with the springs. if you were running a dampner tube, i could maybe see using one, but i'd just upgrade to sideshocks and go with it lol. hope this helps some.

DHmav51-I meant a front bar, but thanks for telling me about the rear one......i was gonna try it on an old Switch Blade
Jesman499- I run that car on a flat ozite oval and i love it..!!!!

Dave

my bad. didn't know if you ment a front or a rear one. i'd think if you ran a front one, it would be the same as having a stiffer right front shock on the car in the turns and not affecting the car down the straights?

Thanks!!
Dave

hey guys im not sure anyone is going to want my advice after my performance this past weekend.

jesman- i would weigh your options and if you are racing on a regular basis and you can afford i would definetely upgrade the chassis..it will never hurt you and can only help your race program.

speedfreak- running the electronics on the left definetely loosens the car up...it is meant more as a tuning optin than a last resort..i would definetely give it a try and see how you like it. im not a big supporter of front swaybars because they remove steering from the car which is something that i dont think you should ever do.

Brain,

Don't worry about that. I had 2 bad runs and was taken out in the one qualifier that I was doing well in. you are the one with the Bird's wins. Heck if you look at the run down it looks like I just started racing. Bad luck on my end too.

Just wondering I seen that you had a 1/12 scale. What was that and where can I get one?

brooks

So exactly what was your setup? Maybe we can learn from your mistakes... Do you have any ideas about what you may have done wrong? or what you could have done differntly?

Anyone who gives advice as freely as you, is worth listening to I think... No one can run fast 100% of the time.

lol brian! i'm happy as heck you went! i was down and out untill i saw your results! j/k bro like you said we all have bad days..we just had 5 or 6 in a row! you still going to race rock race with us this year?

brian i just got to read your post about the smc batteries. even i could not have said it any better. good luck at the nats!:thumbsup:

Hey Brian you ready to go Touring car racing? LOL Some of those guys were looking for you suday night...wanting some tires!!

eric a

what setting do you use for the amps on a fantom dyno???? 20 for stock ????? someone please help me !!!!

BRD- the 1/12th scale i had was a prototype KSG car...it was really great...just had some bad luck with that as well...i think Andy and his dad are going to make it but not until they get things caught up a bit with the 1/10th scale car.

Dyno- i think the biggest mistake i made was trying to do too much..running 3 classes and building motors for 3 cars with the limited amount of practice we had hurt my program alot...as far as setup i think a mistake i made was trying to copy everyone elses setup...if i had just tried to my own thing i may have been alot better off...i did have some very strange problems that ive never encountered so often.

EA- im sure there were some guys...thats why i had to get out of there...hehe...that was the most fun i had out of all 9 days in those 20 minutes.

ovalrookie- i dont mess with a dyno but if EAMotorsports sees that he could give you the correct answer.

I'll see if I can answer the dyno question...

Looking at data in relation to amp input can be deceiving.

In my opion peak power is the single most important number in stock oval racing. Effciency would be the next number to look at, but I can't really give any advice as to what kind of efficeincy is required to do well.

For Power, it's easy... the more the better...

For efficiency it's also realitively easy... try the motor if it doesn't melt, smoke, or slow down too much by the end of the race then it's efficienct enough.


Try and dyno the motors before and AFTER a run, if the motor doesn't dyno as well after a run almost as good as it did before, it probably still needs some work.

Go to the 'understand dyno data' topic in the general section of hobbytalk, I and ohters will discuss dynos as much or as little as anyone may want.

The truth of the matter is that Brian never recovered from "sticker shock" at Charley's. :lol:

Barry- your probably right about that...i think it was more i just couldnt sit down all week to work on my stuff because i got reamed so bad!

yeah that bill is gonna be hard for jack to swallow! lol it was nice to meet mr.EA that man is fast! brian you need to make a copy of that bill so we can see what you realy ordered? lol oh well always next year!:devil:

So you think you had too much "rear steer"?

Will you send me the set up that you used at the Snowbirds

thank you
brooks

bderting@co.iredell.nc.us

Brian,
What is the best settings to use when charging my GP3300 on a CE T35BL? Also settings for new trinity 1600 spec packs. The spec packs seemed flat when I ran them more than once in one night.
Thanks Greg

Metro,

I don't mean to butt in,but you're right about the spec packs,I've never been able to run them more than once per day.I charge mine at 6amps .05 peak detect and takem down at 20.

It sounds like they will be like the last ones (1 run a day)

brooks

Pepe,
That's what I was affraid of. I guess I better not throw away my 1300 packs yet, might need them for practice.
Greg

Didn't seem like 5-7 amps made a difference, they never heated up but I think I need to reajust that peak detection to .05 its at .03 right now. Darn it!
Thanks Greg

Brian,
Just checking to see if you've been taken off of "Suicide Watch" after your performance at the Birds...
Call me if you still want to unload your stuff.
TP:thumbsup:

Brian - how about a rematch at Race Rock??? HEHE

todd- no suicide watch about something that doesnt matter all that much actually...still not sure what im doing with my stuff yet but ill let you know.

rcthunder- i might have to borrow stuff to run that race this year if i come down depending on if i hang up my transmitter.