Is there a web site for this track? Pictures/results, etc.?

http://www.racingcity.com

Ended up getting in a wreck and not finishing.

Have a good holiday and see ya in a few weeks.

Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas From all of R/C Racers down South,Scotts Hobbies Branford Fl.& R/C Track


SCOTT & PEGGY :wave:

I've been wanting to race again but my work schedual makes it hard.
I've also been hearing about how fast the stock guys are running and I think it's great but that just pushes me farther away from the "A" "B" or "C" mains.

Is there any interest in getting a NASTRUCK class going?
Maybe use a GM3 or Monster for the motor and spesific tires and or anything else like a spec truck class.
This is just an idea.

Just do your homework and get yourself faster. Please dont try to make another limited class :rolleyes:.

Later, Bret

I say open mod legends :jest:

there should be a novice or a spec class. plattsburg has one and it is working out great.

I think a novice class would be great, but what are the requirments?

Like 12 laps off last weeks TQ would classify you as a novice.
Then, if you run within 12 laps of last weeks TQ, you bump up to expert the following week???

I don't know if thats a good number or not, I'm just throwing something out there to start with.

Let's nail down some info and talk to Kenny about it.

Later, Bret

i think the people that are more than 12 laps off the place are in a class of their own to begin with. There always in the same heat toghther and the same main and pluss i really dont know anyone who is off the pace that bad.

I agree with Justin, 6 might be a better number. But whatever number is decided on I think its a great idea! As long as its properly thought out and presented. I'm sure Ken would listen.

Yea, I just threw a number out there, I don't want to offend anyone ya know.
If 86 is TQ (which seems to be the norm) 80 is considered Novice, and 81 Expert???
Just hashing out numbers, keep throwing ideas out there.

Later, Bret

I really dont feel that a novice type class is necessary. It would be a pain beacause every week you would have to do re-do the computer and switch classes around. And if someone had a horrible week you know they would complain about being in the novice class. And alot of people that should be there wont admit it anyways. I dont care. The KSG is back toghther and im not using the dyno anymore. Weird thing is last time i did good i ran 85laps, had my own tire set up and ran the roll out which i thought should be right. Now that ive been using the dyno and letting everyone else set up my car ive been running 82-83 laps :rolleyes:

Maybe a novice class would be a good idea, at least from my standpoint. I got my son interested in racing in Latham because there was a novice class. He was comfortable running there and after 4 weeks I was going to have him moved up to DD stock there, but as we all know, no racing in Latham anymore. So, I figured, let's go run in Glens Falls. He tries it for 2 weeks, after not running a car since Jan '04, and now doesn't want to because some people open their mouths and blame him for their own problems and he got discouraged. I have run in DD stock here and I myself am anywhere from 10 to 12 laps "off the pace" any given week. I 'm no expert, but have been racing for @ 15 years off and on, and would welcome a novice class so I can try and compete with people running the pace I am running, not 10 laps faster. I admit my setup is off and I don't spend alot of money or time on batteries and motors. I also don't have a "sponsor" like alot of the A main drivers. I just feel a class for less experienced drivers would be good at Ken's. Just my 5 cents.

Maybe a novice class would be a good idea, at least from my standpoint. I got my son interested in racing in Latham because there was a novice class. He was comfortable running there and after 4 weeks I was going to have him moved up to DD stock there, but as we all know, no racing in Latham anymore. So, I figured, let's go run in Glens Falls. He tries it for 2 weeks, after not running a car since Jan '04, and now doesn't want to because some people open their mouths and blame him for their own problems and he got discouraged. I have run in DD stock here and I myself am anywhere from 10 to 12 laps "off the pace" any given week. I 'm no expert, but have been racing for @ 15 years off and on, and would welcome a novice class so I can try and compete with people running the pace I am running, not 10 laps faster. I admit my setup is off and I don't spend alot of money or time on batteries and motors. I also don't have a "sponsor" like alot of the A main drivers. I just feel a class for less experienced drivers would be good at Ken's. Just my 5 cents.EXACTLY, thanks for speaking up, and did I read correctly that your son QUIT??? That makes me feel terrible, and It's just wrong, but I can relate, I remember what it was like starting out. You spend more time trying to stay out of the way, than you do learning the fast line.
Also, a novice class wouldn't add any time to the night, (unless it draws MORE people in :thumbsup:) it'd just move people around and allow for a more enjoyable night of racing.

He didn't give up on racing. My son won't be running a direct drive car there, for now. He'll be running his Mini T .

Ok, I've been reading this for a while and I know some of you personally and some not so. I race in Plattsburgh and yes we basically had the same problem. We went to a Sportsman class which includes any battery any chassis any top (body) with a handout Green Machine 3, bone stock (stock brushes and springs) and a roll out rule of 1.40 and a 116 or 120 spur. These can be bought for about $17-20, not real sure but its something like that. Maybe if Ken doesnt want to buy all the motors like we did and hand them out himself, maybe he could order a bunch of these bone stock GM3 and have the racer buy one and at the end of the night it goes into an impound area at the track for the next week of racing. I dont think there is a lot of maintainance needed for these motors, maybe a cut of the comm every few weeks, I dont think the brushes wear that much, Dan Dubuque would know more about them, he checks and rebuilds as necessary. At our track, eventhough it is much smaller, it has improved most of the racers at the track. It makes/allows them to work on their chassis and not worry about buying motor after motor or countless $$$$ on batteries.

When we first started the Sportsman class, a few "Pro" drivers took the spec motor and geared it down (like 1.20) and showed (proved) to the Sportsman drivers that it was mostly in their setup.

This is just what we have done to handle a very similar problem, I'm not saying its the solution, but has defineately helped us!!

Best of luck with you situation and a crew may head down for your winter warmup.

There is no need for a novice class in my opinion. You will still be competeing w/ the same people in novice as you would be with the people in d.d. stock, the difference is in stock you would be running in lower mains...basiclly my making a novice class you would be just trying to put your self in for example a "D" main that is called an "A".

This sounds like the stacking the heats argument with a different title. Alright guys here's the deal. We've tried this type of thing before and it's usually offended more people than made happy plus we usually don't have enough people sign up for a novice class to justify running it, but as we've always said if you bring it and we have enough we'll run it. From our standpoint though it is extremely difficult to tell a guy who's been racing for X number of years that he's not up to the level of someone else in the same "class". and yes the laps speak for themselves but if you've been racing with a group of guys and all of a sudden you're not you will probably get pissed and might not show up to race again. I agree that it's a good idea to split into a pro/amateur system but where should the break happen between each group. I looked back a few weeks and saw guys that were A main contenders one week deep in the B or C other weeks and vice versa. It's that ultra close racing here that makes it that much more difficult to make a switch. Here's the bottom line you guys can decide where you think you should be pro or amateur but this is your decision so be honest with yourself. We just want to put this to bed.

John

hmmm...What a coincidence i was just talking about this today as a matter of fact. I dont think there is a need for it. Your in with the same people you would be with whether you split it up or not. If your normally in the lower mains you will be in the novice class. Then you will be with same people beacause thats how the heats are set up previous weeks performance. So really your with the same people. If you are already in the slowest heat going and u want a novice class you will still be in that lowest heat with the same bunch of guys. Maybe you don't need a novice class maybe you just need to practice! I hear people complain about it constantly even in this thread...I/He/They have to get out of peoples way therefore I/He/They can't focus on driving...well your in a heat with guys equal to you or maybe a little better but if you can't keep up with the lowest heat going maybe you just need some practice. just my .02

For what it's worth...

Chassis and driving win races...period. You can't fire a cannon from a canoe...
As far as the "he's got more/better equipment" argument goes, nothing could be further from the truth. I think it is safe to assume that I have access to more stock motors than anyone North of Trinity, and if I saved all the best stuff for myself, I still would be 2-3 laps off until I got my chassis dialed...
...If all you had to do was bolt killer motors and batteries in to win, not only would I never lose a race, I could sell the stuff out of my car for a small fortune.:thumbsup:

As far as the class structure goes, heat line ups, etc, I'd suggest that everyone get together at the track and discuss/vote on it. The only way to solve the entire issue is to hold a meeting at the track so everyone can discuss their ideas, then go from there. It's a hobby guys, let's keep it fun.

TP

TP is 100% correct! He has said it all right there. I am going to talk to Ken about having a drivers meeting at some point during the night this Saturday so we can get all of your feedback and make this better for all of you, but everyone has to agree in the end. So lets put an end to the Monday morning quaterbacking that seems to go on on these forums and get this done. Remember we want you all to have FUN!!!!!!!! :D
JOHN

Since 2004 is over it might be a good time to start a new thread!

Since 2004 is over it might be a good time to start a new thread!Huh???
Anyway, I did start a new thread, it says "Glens falls NY 2005" :thumbsup: .

Later, Bret

FYI EVERYONE EFFECTIVE 1/5/2005 WE ARE NO LONGER USING THIS THREAD. GO TO "GLENS FALLS NY 2005" to chat now