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David Butts
08-24-2003, 05:45 PM
Well guys and gals(are there any?)Its about time the road course at Hobby World gets its own Thread. After all its the only permanant outdoor asphalt track(hows that for narrowing it down?)in the north Fl area. Lets hear It anybody want to talk? :wave: Good, Bad , Positive,Negative any remarks or suggestions are ok as long as its legal in all fifty states and canada eh? The first time I have ever driven a road course race at hobby world and the first time I've set down a car for competition there since 1995 was this past friday. I have'nt had that much fun since I dont know when. Well actually I do but thats not to talk about here :devil: My intentions of racing with some of my old batteries and motors were for naught as soon as I set the car down for practice I was offered batteries and motors by no less than three different people. You gotta love this stuff! Thanks everyone! I think I've created a monster in meself :mad:

David Butts
08-24-2003, 05:50 PM
Yeah yeah yeah I know this should've been placed on the onroad section. I messed up and I've asked Hankster to move it. But now that you've seen it you know what to look for :wave: . Heh Heh Heh

number_0
08-25-2003, 12:14 PM
you say it is a perminent track?
i will be in fl in about 10 days and will be in daytona i will be looking for a place to run any info or web page link would be great

thanks

David Butts
08-25-2003, 05:43 PM
Number-0 Yes Hobby worlds track is nearing its twentieth anniversary as a permanant track and over five years now with asphalt. Its not the smoothest place in the world but its a outdoor track none the less. It did host the 2000 roar on road nats too! Its at 7273 103rd st in jacksonville 904 772 9022. Look in the oval section for the hobby world street spec site and one of the guys Shawn Leary has a link on all of his postings. I have no idea of how to link on to it though. They race on friday nights(people start getting there around 5:00 and the races start around 8:00) both oval and touring cars. The track and the facility is being swept up in a new wave of enthusiasm at the moment and there are many things in the planning stages. Please stop on buy when your down here. We'll say HOWDY Y'ALL!

David Butts
08-30-2003, 11:27 AM
Allrightey then!? Lets not everyone chime in at once :devil: Another great night of racing at the squirrell. I didnt make my goal of 25 laps but in my second qualifier I just missed it. Hows a 24 in 5:00.05 grab ya? I didnt really need to see that as after a couple of minor shunts I took it easy for a couple of laps to settle down because I didnt think I was on pace to make my goal on that run. Moral of the story? Never let up, drive like heck and take all chances :eek: . Well after it was all over and the A main was history I still hadnt turned in a 25 lap run but two of the other four Dave's in the race had turned in really fast times. Dave P ran a quick 26'er and Dave Rook turned in an impressive 27 lap run with 8 other cars including me on the track. Dave K.? Up in smoke he goes :roll:

David Butts
09-06-2003, 09:56 AM
Looking for anyone who's actually used the rear shock tower on the front of an tc3 and what were your findings.? I see almost all of the fast guys in europe doing it but I have'nt actually spoken to anybody who has. Any inputs? I'm going to try it myself after I get a few more sets of springs to play with. Suspension, Yo gotta love it!

number_0
09-06-2003, 04:05 PM
hey thanks for the info

speedyfttc3
09-07-2003, 08:07 PM
hey all.... well just a lil inside iggy, hw racing is startring to get another look.we all know it needs new lighting,repaved,another announcer.......lol
why don't we just all vote to what goes on(instead of friday night racing, sat. or sun. afternoon)just an idea.. whos going to have a problem seeing there car in turn 3 then...but i did hear of a possibility of the track getting leveled and surfaced...all i can say is continue to support ur local hobby shops...one day we might not have aplace to run at all!........see ya friday night!

David Butts
09-08-2003, 04:10 AM
Hey speedyfttc3 Your avatar looks like you too. The resemblence is uncanny. :jest:

David Butts
09-09-2003, 07:02 PM
I just got home after stopping by Ye ole racing circuit. Apparently somebody(I know who and thanks guys)took the initiative and there is now a totally new road course. It looks fast and it is alot longer than the last track using more of the oval than just the lap counting section. I was waiting to change my setup but it looks like the wait is over. New track equals new setup heh heh heh.

Oh boy if I just had some of those killer 3300's now. Also the store now has the premounted "take off's" on the new dish wheels and a bunch of them at that. Touring car may not have the number of racers the oval draws(yet)but it's still big fun.

There's a pretty strong friendly rivalry brewing too between all the Dave's. Could there be an all Dave main in the future? :tongue: I'm really looking forward to the future racing and just think in another month or two it'll start cooling off at night. You know I just thought of something. Hw is the only track that I know of that has three different tracks all inside of the ovals walls. Speedway,road course and bullring/small oval. Thats kida cool huh?

Fl Flash
09-09-2003, 10:07 PM
David,
I didnt know about the layout change! I,ll have to swing by and check it out.I enjoy watching yall go both ways!

Fl Flash
09-09-2003, 10:08 PM
Dang I MEANT turning right and left!!! that didnt come out quite right before :lol:

David Butts
09-09-2003, 11:39 PM
Hey Lee that did kinda read wrong but I knew what you meant. My car has a few colors on it but it cant be misconstrued as a rainbow. :devil: Yes by all means go by and check it out. I can hardly wait till friday I just hope the weather holds.

Its hard to make out the course at first because of the openings for the small oval and such but when the cars pass the starting line they no longer turn right back into the infield. Now they go around turns four and three onto the back stretch where theres a really sharp 180 right turn back into the infield almost at turn two. Now they travel right to left on what used to be the road course straight then into the now lefthand sweeper which used to be right and then into the dead area that used to be in the infield as a new chicane that carries you diagonally into the same righthand sweeper that tightens back up into a hard left to bring you back into a righthander out onto the drivers stand straight. Wow I did it. after a couple of cold ones my brain still works.

There are a couple of areas that the car is carrying alot of speed where if the driver is not careful a dangerous meeting of pvc,carbon fiber and lexan takes place. Should be fun. I'm estimating a 23/24 lap run in five minutes compared to the 26/27 lappers by the faster guys on the old layout. But what do I know? The track is definately not as right turn biased as it was which is a good thing.

Chekmate
09-10-2003, 10:04 PM
wassup guys i dont usually get on these things much but im in for the info so everyone post it up and ill see all you guys soon

David Butts
09-11-2003, 08:14 AM
wassup guys i dont usually get on these things much but im in for the info so everyone post it up and ill see all you guys soon like maybe tonight or friday? :tongue:

Fl Flash
09-11-2003, 10:09 PM
Hey,
Swung by and saw the new track layout today, looks pretty good! I,m glad they left the short track alone hehe! Do you think its smooth enough to run a 12th scale on? mines been sitting around for awhile.see Ya tommorrow night!


Lee Helander :cool:

David Butts
09-13-2003, 03:50 PM
Well the innaugural running of the new road couse was a success. I think everyone who ran the new layout liked it for its much more technical sections and its now much longer straight sections too.

But the much dreaded and anticipated aforementoined meeting of composites and pvc with a little lexan throw in for good measure occured on several occasions and it was not a pretty site.

I for one put a glancing contact with one of the pipe conectors in the infield chicane and totally exploded the left front suspnsion on my tc3. The hit didnt even change the direction of the car and sounded like body contact.

Well before the mains John Hart duct tape wrapped the offending sections of the track(A good Idea)and there were no more broken parts throughout the mains. Thanks John, I wish I had thought of that before the second round.

The new layout also reduced the lapcount more than was expected as I previously thought that 23/24 laps would be run. But no. Stock only was able to run a fast 17 lapper and I believe superstock(19t mod) only turned 18 and some change but maybe 19. The future is bright, After I rebuild my front end that is.

Chekmate
09-13-2003, 11:08 PM
well guys time to say it didnt run as smoothly as id have liked it to friday but im glad that the ones that were there did adhear to the things we said its just the beginning but i think with the help i got friday and possibly more well get to run the qualifiers like we talked about... anther thing guys everyone done really well about keeping there place picked up i wanna thank everyone for the support all i can say is keep it up smooth track is lookin up and up everyday.... Can n e one say 1/12th on asphalt at hobby world oh touche

David Butts
09-21-2003, 08:56 AM
Uh huh. The new setup works good on the rug. Cant wait to try it friday night on the blacktop. see Y'all there if I'm back in town from Charlotte.

Chekmate
09-22-2003, 08:19 PM
Ok guys heres the dillema i dont know who it is or whats bein said but as of today we ARE racing friday night no news yet on when the guys are comin to repave i will let everyone know on here if you have any questions gimme a call at the shop or post here i will usually check this once a night... and see ya for racin on friday night ROOK

David Butts
10-12-2003, 09:20 AM
Darn it! Tracks been repaved but the weather hasnt been condusive to the work required to open it back up. Got my car ready to go but nowhere to take it. Dilema? Track's supposed to open on the 17th but the rug races on the 18th. Oh my its been years since I had to make a decision like this. Life in Jacksonville is good again.

We can run offroad, Onroad and big and small ovals weekly and we can run carpet both road and oval monthly. Guys and gals we got it good right now. I just hope that all the people that are going to be getting involved in all the racing that will be happening around here will be able to get along. I dont expect alot of love but atleast a little compatibility of personalities and persona's would go a long way towards everything being more enjoyable. Whatcha think about that?

David Butts
01-01-2004, 06:23 PM
Did I actually say all that stuff in the post above. Well since the tracks been running quite a bit since then it should be no suprise that the records in all the classes that are regularly run there have been obliterated. Anyone within driving distance of Jacksonville fl. Should make an attempt at showing up on one the friday night or sunday afternoon races. $15 entry and nothing for your money(yet) but two qualifiers and a main race. It's a real good time. Roar membership is required.

bigdon18
01-02-2004, 08:13 PM
hey dave ,, i got me a tc3 ,, what until phillip and boys here about it,,,,

BIGDON

David Butts
01-03-2004, 01:46 AM
Hey Don your going to turn right? The tc3 is a fun car but it seems to be a little fragile at hw, for me anyway. Broke mine again tonight in the first qualifier on the same pipe. I hate pvc! Dave P, Bear, Dave Rook, Earl B, Brad Jessie and almost everyone else have their cars working really well. Bear has some of those new wheel nuts made out of nonfalloffonem (pronounced Non fall off on him)coming so he'll be hard to beat soon. Carpet will be fun and radio time is good no matter what you're driving. Just as in oval, there is a ton of traction for the tc's on the rug so run really hard foams cut real short. Dave P. set me up with some plaid fronts and purple rears. And yes hw has those in stock.

David Butts
01-04-2004, 10:09 AM
Hey Don I know you've talked about it before but what prompted the tc purchase and was it new or used? There is some talk of changing the layout at hw to an even more technical and less straightways layout to reduce some of the speed and tighten up the field. My ever dwindling parts supply would love that. I rebuilt the frontend lastnight so once again the tc3 is ready for some more breakage err :mad: , Racing.

bigdon18
01-04-2004, 12:22 PM
David,
i cant pin point the main reason i got a tc3 ,, i think its i need a change and a different type of challange. i still love my oval cars ,, just goin to play with something different and road course is one of them,, i also think me and dave pull talking alot has also influanced me into trying it ,, i bought a use tc3 for a good price, the only thing its got no tires or pins in the front axle,, the body i got with it dont even mount up but i took the dremel and open up dons body shop last night i remove the swiss cheese back window and took some custom works lexan and made another back window and shoe goo it back into the car body ,,, now i can put the hole to mount the body and fixed a crack on the front fender ,,, that was broken when the guy i bought it from broke the arm and said no more for him,, so one mans trash is another man treasure. i fixed the front back ,, clean the gear cases and bearings and zubie lube them put new spur on and a few other things,, boy does it bring back memories of the dirt days with all the transmission stuff and bolts and the four independent shocks,, i have kinda got a little excited about running it when i do get to , hope i can turn right as good as i do left. i tell you what dave pull has been a big help on me getting up to speed on the tc stuff,, spool i was like whats that,, i have been reading alot of tc stuff on here and another site,, man they are tons of things you can change and do to this cars and also the prices are little better on hop up and parts stuff from what i have seen so far,, i just want to improve my driving abilitys and this should he me do that and make alot more new friends to go along with the great ones i already have and a chance to have more fun in a different way.. its funny i have had a tc3 in the past and never ran it , i sold it off to get oval parts ,, now look what i doning..lol. i guess they is a time and reason for everything..

BIGDON

David Butts
01-04-2004, 01:41 PM
Yep the main reason I bought mine when getting back into this mess was because of the four wheel independant suspension and the all wheel drive. They are a blast and the rubber tires last a little while on asphalt and the foamies wear ok on the carpet. You know you can make the axle pins out of .063 wire like you use for your wings. The diference will be the pins will fall out when ever you pull the drive hexes off. But hey a piece of wire at the local hobby shop is like 50 cents and you can make about a hundred pins outta one piece. You could start BigDons axle pin sales on the internet. :wave: Also there are some dirt oval late model bodies made just for these things if the road course stuff isnt up to your liking. :eek:

BryanW92
01-06-2004, 12:56 AM
What are the motor, tire, and battery rules for Touring Class at the HW track?

davepull
01-06-2004, 01:09 AM
motor rules any roar legal stock motor ask Rook before you buy it tires are rubber only and battery is any roar legal one.

David Butts
01-06-2004, 08:33 PM
Bryan, Dave should have clarified that it was a 6 cell battery pack and any roar legal 27 turn motor for stock class and any Chameleon two style 19 turn motor in the 19t class. Were You guys out at the track last friday night. Ifso I recognized Matt who is the rcst prez right. If i'm right it's good to have some more car club crossovers showing up. And if you know those guys you will also know Mitch Yorkovitch and he and I go way back.

BryanW92
01-06-2004, 09:05 PM
I'm usually so busy trying to put my oval track car back together after a run that I can't watch the touring cars run. Didn't they only run one class last Friday? If so, was it Stock or 19t?

David Butts
01-06-2004, 09:07 PM
Friday night it was 19t but there have been two classes in the past. Just some of the racers havent shown up since the holidays started. Now that they're all done maybe we can get to some real racing now. Which oval car was yours fri night?

BryanW92
01-06-2004, 09:18 PM
My oval car is the red and yellow one with a 15 on the side.

New92
01-06-2004, 11:11 PM
Bryan, Dave should have clarified that it was a 6 cell battery pack and any roar legal 27 turn motor for stock class and any Chameleon two style 19 turn motor in the 19t class. Were You guys out at the track last friday night. Ifso I recognized Matt who is the rcst prez right. If i'm right it's good to have some more car club crossovers showing up. And if you know those guys you will also know Mitch Yorkovitch and he and I go way back.


That was me with Matt Friday night. Chris Garland was there too...he used to race Oval with you guys in Arlington I think. I have been trying to talk Matt into getting a car for awhile and he finally got bit by the bug :tongue:
I bought a TC3 a couple of weeks ago and he just ordered his yesterday so we will be out there soon. I was out this past Saturday for practice and am going out this weekend. We have an RCST meeting Friday night but will be at HW afterwards to watch you guys again. Yea Mitch is one that rekindled my interest in it awhile back. I always wanted a car when I would go watch at Arlington, then gradually forgot about them...then I bought a nitro TC last year then a XXX-NT earlier in the year. Now I am planning on sticking to electric TC and nitro off road for a long time....then again oval looks pretty fun too lol.

Matt, Chris, his brother Dave, and I will be out there soon with you all though.

--Eugene Godwin

Shumacher 99
01-07-2004, 04:55 PM
I had a long break from racing . But I am ready to go again . 12 stright years of racing on and off wares on you. Need a break now and then..lol

David Butts
01-07-2004, 11:49 PM
I had a long break from racing . But I am ready to go again . 12 stright years of racing on and off wares on you. Need a break now and then..lol Yep. I bought my first electric rc car in 1979. Raced slotcars from about the time I wore diapers too so I know all about the burnout syndrome. I'm enjoying myself more this time around because it's not my job anymore. Glad to have all you guys showing up at the track.

Shumacher 99
01-08-2004, 04:52 PM
Me too. It is going to be alot of fun this go around. There are alot of new products to learn about. That was always fun for me . tring out new motors and tires stuff like that. Went to the track the other day knocked off a little rust on my driving skills. was getting in the the turns good but not getting out all that great. Had a small push that I haven't worked out of the car yet.(tuning is fun too) Hope to see ya up there. should be race ready in a week or two. Still waitng on my batteries and new charger. Tower Hobbies takes 4-ever!!

bigdon18
01-10-2004, 09:54 PM
dave,,
ant it funny ,, these cars come with swaybars now days,,, back when we ran dirt you made your own.

BIGDON

David Butts
01-11-2004, 12:29 AM
dave,,
ant it funny ,, these cars come with swaybars now days,,, back when we ran dirt you made your own.

BIGDON
I still do too. There are a couple of aftermarket bars available but wire is cheap and I aint afraid to bend it. I just bent up a couple of .078 ones for Dave P. and I.

David Butts
01-11-2004, 10:39 AM
Going to be a great day for racing at the old track today. Even if y'all arent ready to race you should try to stop by. Dont be afraid to ask questions.

Fl Flash
01-11-2004, 11:55 AM
Hey Guys,
Anyone know what a amb transponder weighs and its dimensions,I am looking to make up a dummy for setup use. Wish I could make it out to HW today! have to go look at a house with the wife today :rolleyes:
Later! Lee :cool:

davepull
01-12-2004, 12:06 AM
team associated sells them I have a extra that I can give yah.

bigdon18
01-12-2004, 12:30 PM
hey guys how did the tc action go yesterday at the world..

BIGDON

David Butts
01-12-2004, 07:21 PM
Hey Don, almost all of the guys that showed up yesterday were fast. Track temps were way down so there were no records set. well maybe for broken parts but thats another story alltogether. I've now seen what an LRP speed contoller looks like when it's wrapped around a losi rear drive cvd. Ouch, that wasnt pretty.

bigdon18
01-12-2004, 09:25 PM
ouch,, bet that was a bad one,,
BIGDON

Shumacher 99
01-12-2004, 10:12 PM
Yeah Earl was having all sorts a tech problems Sun. It sucked he was fast and was fun to watch.

xpss
01-13-2004, 09:42 AM
earl = fast?i must have been sleeping.haha i dont know if it was the track so cold as it was our fingers.the first part of the main i had a 14.6 the last have i couldnt feel my hands no longer.bear

davepull
01-13-2004, 10:19 AM
i think the whole problem was it was just could out . my car was fast in practice and ok in the first qual and a bag in the main Phil Owen had the temp gun track was like 74 deg when we started and 51 for the mains.

cold track, cold tires, spool = spinning car.

xpss
01-13-2004, 12:06 PM
u r gonna have to some of those tire warmers those fast guys earl,rook and brad are using.

Shumacher 99
01-13-2004, 05:04 PM
No body had anything for you Bear...lol