Wondering what cars are popular for dirt oval? 2WD and 4WD. We may be adding an oval track locally and looking for opinions please. The track surface is yet to be determined but it will be NOT blue grooved. Most likely swept and watered. Let me know what ya'll think guys! Thanks...

custom works only name you will need to know in dirt oval.

custom works only name you will need to know in dirt oval.

AMEN Brother.

custom works only name you will need to know in dirt oval.
Yep! what da Kat said. On most if not all tracks the 2wd intimidator can haul the mail. On 4wd most tracks have gone to the touring cars for this class. Readily available parts and cheap too. The dominator from custom works is still tops in my book though. I still have my first one bought in 1989. Regretfully there are no dirt oval tracks around where I live now. If the track your planning on racing at is not of the expertly maintained type(bumpy,rutty or just plain nasty)an offroad type car will suit your purpose better. Or maybe the intimidator10 from customworks. It has the cw chassis and front suspension with the rear suspension and gearbox from an rc10(stealth style). Just add the body style of your choice and hang on. Dirt oval is the best of both oval classes worlds. Almost the same speed as pavement and all the suspension to play with. Yee haw! Did I mention custom works has the nicest looking sprint carts too? Both gearbox and direct drive versions. Sound like I work for custom works? Nah, but I did stay at an holiday inn express lastnight :D

terminator is the best gearbox car out there now.

I also think the Terminator is the best Dirt oval car on the market right now.

Custom Works cars is my choice ,,, just put some associated touring shocks on it,, trash the old school delta shocks. then you are set for a car that is tunable for all track conditions. hard, pack, slick, blue grove , tack , rutty ,dusty, and bumpy...

BigDon

Kranzels Terminator....nuff said...

custom works are the best but you need a smoth track, the Kranzels Terminator is a better overall car it can handel a "rough" track

Where do I get a Kranzel's...

their hobby shop # is 717-737-7223. Their located near Harrisburg PA

here are some links to shops that sell them, including Kranzels:

www.walts-hobby.com

www.kranzelsrchobbies.com

www.performancehobbiesraceway.com

Thanks Guys!!! You all have been great help.

I would go with the Terminator. I have 3 of them and wouldn't consider trading one for a Custom Works.

I got out of dirt oval awhile back in favor of refitting my inventory with oval cars. I now am starting to feel the uge to go back to my roots.
I used to run outlaw sprint with both a converted B3, and an enforcer10 depending on the track and it's conditions.
Un fortunatly I sold it all to finace my oval fleet.
I think the terminator is for me, as I want to run EDM, and occasional late model / full body class.
All I have left is a spare B3 tranny I found in the old dusty archieves.
I am leaning towards the B3 based terminator kit, but would appreciate hearing others pro and con views.
I also need to know, besides electronics, what parts will I need to complete the kit?
Thanks

it depends how involved u want to get. many people at our track run edm with buggy chassies. i currently run a bellyacher from custom works. bms makes a few cars, and cobra still does i think. i know trinity made a few. if u need to know more about what cars are out there look at the links page on www.dirtoval.com.. there are so many cars. intimidater,bellyacher,terminater,enforcer,cobra,t rinity,b.m.s.,kransels,and so many home built.

Wait a couple of weeks and get the new Custom Works GBX car. You won't be disapointed. One thing to remember is that The Kranzel Terminator was orignially developed by Rob Cutman (now GM of Custom Works). :dude:

I like the Terminator, but the draw back is how much this thing weigh out at. I ran it a Mr. Dirt at Krans last year, EDM body and Ready to race, 5 lbs.
I have tried to run it without the Alum nose and it wont keep the wheels on the ground.
As far as which one...You have to look at the track rules..Some places say your chassy has to have a Kick up front end. (Term. B-2,3,4 XXX and so ON) In that case you couldnt run the Inteminator. They are both great cars. I cant say anything about the Grand car. I have never seen one in action.

But the NEW CW cars are due out soon I quess. The date keeps getting pushed back. I can remeber when they were to begin shipping in Mar 04...Any ways the track is the key.

Custom Works!!!!!

Hey guys I must agree with ptown20 on the new Custom Works GBX car. We have been working very hard on this car and all the effort is paying off. When it is released everyone will be very happy with the final product believe me. This new car has some very important tuning features that the other cars on the market do not have. It is a very adjustable car that will work on all types of track surfaces and under any conditions. Remember this is a purpose built gear box car not a bellyacher so you really cannot compare the two. I have been running the prototype GBX car all summer and when it is released it will be an excellent car for all types of dirt oval racing.


If you guys have any questions feel free to ask.

Phil Cooper

I like the Terminator, but the draw back is how much this thing weigh out at. I ran it a Mr. Dirt at Krans last year, EDM body and Ready to race, 5 lbs.
I have tried to run it without the Alum nose and it wont keep the wheels on the ground.
As far as which one...You have to look at the track rules..Some places say your chassy has to have a Kick up front end. (Term. B-2,3,4 XXX and so ON) In that case you couldnt run the Inteminator. They are both great cars. I cant say anything about the Grand car. I have never seen one in action.

But the NEW CW cars are due out soon I quess. The date keeps getting pushed back. I can remeber when they were to begin shipping in Mar 04...Any ways the track is the key.


5LBS?????? What the heck did you have in that car? The majority of the guys in this area run Terminators and they don't even come close to that weight.

where can I get a list of parts I need in addition to a kit, to build the B3/b2 terminator?

Usally you can find a Used one for $50-200.. Or Krasles is the place....

On my car the body my friend had on ite weighed 1 lbs by its self.

Hey blueracer55, could I get acouple of pics fo your car to see exactly what a belleyacher looks like. Ive heard of them an yet to see one, thank you, Ellis. el_gator@sbcglobal.net (Ellis.----el_gator@sbcglobal.net)

its a direct drive intimidator with a stealth tranny mashed in between the outdrive "posts".


The Grand Motorsports HB30 is junk. The adjustable castor idea is nice, but when your shock tower stays stationary, its worthless, because unless the shocks are parrallel with the tower, they will bind.

rimrider,
if i can ever get my computer at home working again i will send u pics. heck i'll have jerry take some pics this coming weekend. i'll have him post them too. i'll be at jacksonville illinois this weekend if u wanna see it. personally i like it alot better than the other cars out ther right know.

Hey guys I must agree with ptown20 on the new Custom Works GBX car. We have been working very hard on this car and all the effort is paying off. When it is released everyone will be very happy with the final product believe me. This new car has some very important tuning features that the other cars on the market do not have. It is a very adjustable car that will work on all types of track surfaces and under any conditions. Remember this is a purpose built gear box car not a bellyacher so you really cannot compare the two. I have been running the prototype GBX car all summer and when it is released it will be an excellent car for all types of dirt oval racing.


If you guys have any questions feel free to ask.

Phil Cooper
Hey Phil, anything new on the GBX release date yet? Also, have you tried the prototype on carpet yet?

Wazzer to answer your questions, no I have not run this car on carpet yet. Right now it is outdoor season and all the tracks in our area run either dirt or asphalt. Once the season ends we will be running some carpet with the car and I expect excellent results. As far as a release date we were talking about this just yesterday and the only hold up right now is the graphite. From what I was told they will be receiving the graphite any day now and the kits are expected to be in the hobby shops by the end of August. Wazzer and anyone else reading this thread do not hold me responsibile if they are not, but that is the plan.

If you have any other questions please feel free to ask.

Phil Cooper

Hey guys,

I just picked up a terminator! Any tips on carpet, and dirt set ups. Just some good starting points. Also, Purple foams for carpet, and Silver for dirt??

Setup:

35 or 40 wt in all 4 shocks, #2 pistons up front, #3 pistons in the rear. Associated buggy silver springs up front, 10# springs in the back. Tires....depends on the track...Silvers wear will wear fast but provide lots of traction. Id recommend either BSR Silvers, Pinks or 30s on dirt.

Carpet...I ran mine only once on a flat carpet oval, ran 60 wt oil w/ the same pistons and TC3 copper and red springs. I think i ran a combo of Purple and Rad C tires, but it was a few years ago so dont qoute me on that.

Also, consider converting the car with either a Putnam Propulsion Pro-kit or a Getback RC conversion kit. The chassis offset the batteries farther to the left and help make the car more consistent.