Hey Ray,

Are you still getting chassis milled? If send you two can you get one done for Jake? LMK.


Dean,

I'll ship it to you on Tuesday. Send those two up anytime. Theres some flashing to be removed, but that takes about 15 minutes!!!

e-mail me your address at sales@diamondnorthernrc.com and I'll send you the adrees to ship those two up to me.

Ray

I am so bored not racing I've been glued to Motorsports mondial-watching the Big Rigs race like 6-times...... Almost got to do an entire day of Karting today too. Testing clutches and brake pad material on a whicked fast sprinter (25hp motor-310 lbs.....) But of course it rained!! Bummer!!! But-it saved me tired arms and neck and bruised ribs for a week-so thats cool I guess.

Anyways-I just talked to Aaron and he took some sign-ups at the Toledo gas car race Sunday. We are probably knocking on 90 entries.

I still see a lot of missing names fom our regular club racers....

Ray,

I am with you! Just working on the cars. Mo just finished my Speed-chicken tonight. My TC3 is torn down waiting on dog bones. Should be here tomorrow.

Mo ended up using the blue axle on my car. Send me an e-mail with the amount and I will mail that money up with the dog bone cash. Hope that is not a big deal.

Ed is supposed to get his new rail system by Friday. First race is Sunday. Hope it shows because I am itching to get some racing on. The guys that laid the new carpet did an outstanding job. NOT ONE SEAM is visible.

Rob

Dude-I cannot wait to see and drive my Rev.3. Its all cool on the axle. Advantage RC tuned 12th scale......

I hear his carpet is glued down too-so never a ripple or lifted seam. Thats Awesome!!!

Ray.

Yep. It is glued. I guess the guys that laid did some research before laying it. It looks amazing.

Cool deal on the axle. I didn't think it would be a problem. Just e-mail me what they cost a brutha.

I made quite a few changes to my TC3. Ackerman changes, bump steer changes, and -2 kick up with Losi 6 degree blocks. I was running -1 kick up with AE 4 degree caster blocks. CD has a sway bar made for me. Just have to get down his house to get it dialed in. Have some drilling to do on his machines....

RB Love

The sway bar system on the TC3 could be a lot better-thats for sure. They dont come into affect untill the arms are halfway-up and then its hard to keep them from rubbing the dogbone-which cannot be good.

I gotta try the - kick-up on the TC3. I didnt like it on the XXXS, no turn in, massive corner exit steering.

I thought the negative kick up (pro-squat) worked awesome on the Losi. That is why I tried it on the TC3. I have -2 kick up, not +2 degrees of kick up. Arms angled down in the front. I felt the car turned in better. Just experimenting. Will probably suck:), but I have to try it you know.......................

When is the Gates first Sunday race?????????????


RB

The Losi XXXS G+ I sold to Jimmy had mid-roll center and positive kick-up and 4-degree C-hubs. It was one awesome handling car. Good corner speed and steered beautifully.

Gates first race is September 21st. Be there!!! remember-River Junction is open on Saturdays starting this Saturday!!!

Welllllllll. I guess if Ultra does not get their new rail system I can head over to PA. I want to make it over there a couple of times this winter. Sounds like a cool place.


I think I had the mid roll center block with 0 kick up using the lower mounts on the bulk head. If I ever ran mod full time I would go with the Losi G+. Great car. Hard to make horsepower in stock, but Dana gets his going good.

RB Love

Fleetwoooooooooooooooooood!
What up. Be there Sunday. Won't have new cars. Will run last years stuff for a couple weeks. Take a little time to get the cobwebs out and get used to having traction. Jake will probably turn in about 3 feet short. Doesn't sound like we'll have much of a mod crowd. I'm hoping one other besides Doseck will race mod. See you 8 AM.

Doseck will not be there and traction may not be great first day on the new rug. Probably wouldn't be a bad idea for everyone to run stock. We'll see how it goes when we all get in there.......

Hey everyone,

Hope we all had a great Labor Day weekend. Anyhow-we are putting to print the rules package for the race as we speak. The rules will very much mirror the US Indoor Champs and ROAR Rules for Sedan and 12th scale. Here are some of the FAQ's. I will get with Bud to confirm the BRP Rules package as well. I believe the BRP rules are on his website www.brpracing.com .

WEIGHTS
12th scale 29 oz with transponder
Sedan 51oz with transponder

RIDE HEIGHT
12th scale 1/8"
Sedan 4mm

MOTOR
Stock and Masters-Trinity Monster Horsepower Stock can and armature, light Green can. You may not modify the can, endbell or amature from stock in any way shape or form.
Modified-Open

http://www.teamtrinity.com/motors/images/stockheader.jpg

BODIES
Any ROAR approved 12th scale or 190mm 4-door Sedan Body. See www.roarracing.com for approved list.

BATTERIES
Any ROAR Approved battery (Exception made for the EPIC GP3300-only).
12th Scale 4-cell
Sedan 6-cell

And there will be fulltime tech inspectors as well as full time Race Director and Announcer to make sure this event goes with as little cheating as possible!!

EXPECT to have your motor torn down after any heat!!! It wont matter if your TQ, 40th place, my best friend or mortal enemy or you plan on running the motor again in 5 minutes!!!

Which TC body to run? Hmmmm.

And there will be fulltime tech inspectors as well as full time Race Director and Announcer to make sure this event goes with as little cheating as possible!!

EXPECT to have your motor torn down after any heat!!! It wont matter if your TQ, 40th place, my best friend or mortal enemy or you plan on running the motor again in 5 minutes!!!

Who is this fulltime Announcer/Race Director you speak of? It's not that loudmoth loser from the old Dayton track is it? That guy sucks! :devil:

Ian-you DA Man!!! Better start getting your sleep now. :lol:

This race is gonna be like the Dayton races of old-eh?? Lots of entries, the best stock and mod drivers around, old bearded guys and young guns and Ozite as far as the eyes can see!!!


Also-we added a club race on Thursday night for anybody who wants to test and tune prior to the race. So youve got Thursday club race, Friday open and controlled practices!!!

Lets hope this race grows to be an every year tradition to start the carpet season!! Ian-you ready to sign that 10 year contract!!

Ray

Ian-you DA Man!!! Better start getting your sleep now. :lol:

This race is gonna be like the Dayton races of old-eh?? Lots of entries, the best stock and mod drivers around, old bearded guys and young guns and Ozite as far as the eyes can see!!!


Also-we added a club race on Thursday night for anybody who wants to test and tune prior to the race. So youve got Thursday club race, Friday open and controlled practices!!!

Lets hope this race grows to be an every year tradition to start the carpet season!! Ian-you ready to sign that 10 year contract!!

Ray

10 years is a long time Ray, there'd have to be a significant signing bonus, as well as performance based incentive clauses. Of course we can never disclose my actual salary. Tiger and Schuey would get jealous.

Is this a handout motor race for stock? I might have missed if it is or isn;t but not sure.

Which TC body to run? Hmmmm.

Parma X20MG of course-silly boy!!!!

Is this a handout motor race for stock? I might have missed if it is or isn;t but not sure.


We modeled the race after the very succesful races by Scotty Ernst (Trackside) who doesnt use handouts even at big races to save money for the racer on entry-but he makes it up by having technical inspections and random or intentional teardowns after qualifying and Mains.

So this race is A one make stock motor race. Trinity Monster Horsepower, any rebuilder, tuner

Mess with them and you could be thrown out of the race. Bye-bye!! And as I have said-we have hired two full time tech guys who are racers-but arent racing that weekend!!!

Ray, 5mm ride height for touring?????????????? Indoor champs is 4mm, can't we use the same?
Walter

Walter-It was 5mm last year. The new Champs rule book came in todays mail and its at home. If you can quote me from Mr. Bills bible-I'll change to 4mm for sure!!!! I'll let you all know tonight!!

Quit your whining!

Ray, 5mm ride height for touring?????????????? Indoor champs is 4mm, can't we use the same?
Walter

Hey Walter,

The sedan will be 5 mm this year.... 3 mm for 1.12th scale...

4mm for TC per the 2003 Cleveland bible.

Yah, Blackstock read your bible! Bottom of page 10! :thumbsup:

Yah, Blackstock read your bible! Bottom of page 10! :thumbsup:

Hey Walter-if you knew the answer-Why did you ask?????????????? :lol:

Just kidding-the Rule book states that its 4mm for sedan and 0.125" (1/8") for 12th scale.

I'll edit my above post.

If ypu remember,last year the bible said 4mm but when they started teching cars they had to be 5mm

Grizzly-A-man-now I remember that whole thing going on. Luckily I was my usual out to lunch-so raising my car up to 5mm didnt make a single difference. but now that you say that-I do remember. The only thing that saved me at the Champs was set-up help from Chang and Bean.

Well-I have been running all my sedans at 4 to 4.5mm so I am cool with the 4mm rule.

It probably wont hurt to run a club race at 5mm just in case and write down all your set-up info from that day.......Could pay off at the Champs.

Hey Tony (Power Push),

I have gotten a few guys wanting to make sure they can buy killer cells on Thursday and Friday before the Halloween classic. So make sure youve got a box full of those high Volt GP and Epics to sell!!!

For a lot of gys-this race is there first serious run back with their electric cars!!

Ray

According to Mr. Bill it is 5mm for TC. Someone needs to check with him.

-Rich

First Ordorless-now Ride height!!! I swear to the powers above that I am not making any of this-up I am staying out of this till we hear from mr. Bill himself on tech talk and I will post it here!!!

Ray

So if my motor gets torn apart e.i., unwound and found legal will I get a new motor or is that just the cost of racing? The reson I ask is because I like this idea and think that this could be the future of stock racing. Now if we can only make the rules so they read NO BALANCING to make the motors more consistent from the factory.

I hear from some of the top motor tuners that they arent even balancing the Monster stock aramtures because they are so well balanced from the factory. Its a waste of time....

the handout Monsters at the USTC Cincinatti race are so fast I just keep putting new brushes in them. Those are the same motors you can buy on the entry form. Trinity Monster handouts.

So if my motor gets torn apart e.i., unwound and found legal will I get a new motor or is that just the cost of racing? The reson I ask is because I like this idea and think that this could be the future of stock racing. Now if we can only make the rules so they read NO BALANCING to make the motors more consistent from the factory.


Why don't we just go back to using Igarishi and Mabuchi motors. No balancing, no comm cutting, no brush/spring combos to worry about!LOL!

You're never going to get decent consistency from Epic or Yokomo stock teardowns. They're cranked out far too quickly, and sloppily for that.

Ian-youll be happy to know I just bought a proffesional mixer and amp!!! You'll be able to do your impersonation of Ozzy if your a hair band type-Twisted Sister.

E-mail me or call me sometime.

Ray

I am hoping Tony Williams will pipe in here in this forum, but this is rm MR.BILL

INDOOR CHAMPS 2003
I AM WORKING ON THE WHEELCHAIR RAMP

THE BOOK SAYS 4MM , BUT 5MM IS BETTER LESS RUB ON THE CARPET

Ian-youll be happy to know I just bought a proffesional mixer and amp!!! You'll be able to do your impersonation of Ozzy if your a hair band type-Twisted Sister.

E-mail me or call me sometime.

Ray
Ray C'mon! You know when I get a mic I go smoooooooth! How 'bout some Wayne Newton or Harry Connick Jr!

so it sounds to me like 4 mm is legal, but they are recomending 5mm

Hello everyone,

if your keeping tabs on the CLEVELAND STYLE AT THE GATE thread-you know the score on the track. Its just getting better all the time!!!!

Aaron, Jim and I will be out of town a lot in the next two weeks.

If you have questions on the Halloween race next week-please e-mail Aaron @ simon01@ameritech.net

When I return -well you'll know cause I'll be postin like a madman like usual, I'll be happy to answer your questions.

Talk to you guys after the 15th,
Ray

shameless bump for promotional purposes

Ian, you have something on your nose... :rolleyes:

Ian, you have something on your nose... :rolleyes:

Hey Greg, It's not brownnosing if your on the staff of the event you're promoting.

If YOU do a shameless bump that would be brownnosing, but that's okay. The brown streaks on your nose will go nicely with the ones in your pants!

ouch, and just to think how nice i was being at Road Rage to you....

ouch, and just to think how nice i was being at Road Rage to you....


That was delayed retaliation for for the "wool" discussion generated earlier.

I am just checking to see if there is a new count for the entries on the first page of this post. Today marks a week since changed, and I was wondering how many spots are still available. I have some more PA racers who would like to attend. Thanks, John @ The Raceway :wave:

Ian, as usual, your timing was BBBBAAAAAADDDDDD

The boys have been out of town I think they were coming back on the 15th, they will have a number sometime after that. :thumbsup:

Dan

Hi Guys,

We're up to 110 entries and more coming in daily. If you want to attend make sure you get your entry form in the mail a.s.a.p. 150 entry limit remember. Send in those entries.

Thanks,
Jim

I am back!!! To say I am overwhelmed right now with e-mails and questions would be right on!!! Please give me 48 hours to catch up and get the entry list updated!!!

Ray

I am back!!! To say I am overwhelmed right now with e-mails and questions would be right on!!! Please give me 48 hours to catch up and get the entry list updated!!!

Ray


NO REST FOR THE WICKED!!!!!!!!!