The weather man is only right about the weather, when you don't want him to be. Rain Sucks!!!

Yes, yes, rain sucks! I'm all ready to run some on-road & was very disappointed in the rain today. I don't have alot of Saturdays off from work lately...

Shane

you get the nitro TC3 running

On road starts on Saturday May 17. We use AMB lap counting. Have food nearby. A great place to race.

Nitro TC3 is alive!!! Dirty, Josh and I worked on it saturday and got the motor broke in. I ran it again on Sunday and it ran fine. Still working on the fuel tuning.

Do We Run Foam Or Rubber Tires For Nitro?

I believe the majority will say foams but I don't know which compounds. Anyone else know?

Yea... It is foams for nitro on road. I'll start asking around, as far as what is working well lately. I know there are a number of new nitro sedan specific tires that have come out in the last year or so. Jaco has Nitro shoes, etc. They're coming in different widths now, too.

Usually they run slightly softer rears than fronts; like 45 shore front, 40 shore rears.

If somebody can get with Bubba, Chris Crews, or Gary Miller, they would know pretty well, I would think. Donnie may know as well.

I talked to donnie and he said to run double purple fronts and purple rears. The rears should be wider than the front but I don't remember the exact mm size.

26mm front... 30mm back if you are talkin proline nitro shoes. If you run 30mm rear tho, remove some rear toe! Plaids and purples are not as durable as "gas rubber" tires. www.speedtechrc.com carries a wide range of tires, foams AND rubbers. Thier listing can give you and idea of what to order from Rusty The new Mugen MTX-3 tires (foams) are very wear resistant, (one run in modified with an 8 turn and there was little to NO discernable wear on my abrasive home track surface... (no chunking) and provide ample traction for the dollar, on high temp asphalt tracks. At 16$ a pair, and several weeks of running, you cant beat em! Shore ratings for front up to 110 degrees (track temp) is 45... and 42 in the rear. Just a starting point that should work well. I included a pic of some YOK138G tires (rubber) that i usually practice with... these wore out in about 8 hard runs, all the way down to the threads! The foams have several weeks on them... and still have yet to get smaller than 2.24, chunk, or peel apart like plaids and purples do! Dont debate the difference between nitro HP and electric HP... there are guys here with serpent 705's and two speeds that cant touch my lap times... OR straightaway speed. So tire durability on nitro shouldnt be a factor. We have a club out of Florida, PARA R/C, that has brought ALOT of fast guys here for racing. Huge 200' x 75' layouts in the middle of the local HT parkinglot. :eek: Anyways... just my .02 .
- Dave

Ok... no pic... too big fer the site. :confused:
- Dave

Just because electric is faster doesn't mean the tire wear is even remotely the same. Electric is faster mainly BECAUSE it is smoother. Smoother= less wear.

That said... I think driver and setup have more to do with tire wear than gas vs. electric.




Of course mainly I just wanted to bust you balls a bit Dave. :devil:

:jest: Nothin like a good ball bustin! I think i miss that most of all...being here in AL. You and Jady can get rather raw... and makes for an amusing night at the track! :lol: Agreed... tire wear is related to driver and setup... but alot of people will automatically say gas is harder on tires due to the "increased HP". Which reminds me... while talking about tires... did you ever find who snagged your tires off of your integra?! Me and my girl swapped the Saturn L200 for a 94 prelude with an h23 in it (104k miles.. and milano red, damn good shape, got it from a chic, original owner, her dad bought it for her as a grad present, she was selling it to get a BMW... friggin creampuff man). Aint done nothin to it yet (just a clutch... wasnt slippin but... wanted one with more bite.. and had the flywheel turned down while i was at it)... prolly wont for a while...the import scene here is kinda slow. So im hoping interest in ripping parts here is just as slow! Noone here does any motor work on imports other than repair. There is a shop..but they do only bolt-ons and rims and tires... no machinists for head work and such. But i figured 190HP stock was sufficient for now... LOL Anyways... till next time...
- Dave

yep what they said. tire wair is usally set up and trigger finger. i've run most of all tire compounds. 40 & below shore for colder weather 50 degees & lower. 40 & above shore for 60 degrees & above. they also make front & rear foam rear foam being more open cell front foam is more dense closed cell. a mix of compounds between 50 & 60 degees.
I run 40 in the rear 45 in the front, purple rears double purple fronts varing the width acording to what the car is doing. hope this helps some. .............bubba :confused: :confused:

Bubba

What's happening? Will you be joining us soon? The 17th?

Dave

Excellent purchase. :thumbsup: I dig ludes!! MMMMMMmmmm. H23. So much potential in those engines. The right cams and bolt-ons do so much for those. There is more going on for Hondas in Alabama than you might think. I'm not sure where in AL, but there are a couple good Honda gurus around with a lot of forced induction experience.

One is named Jim (knows supercharged setups very well, makes custom pulleys and other stuff) Contact info:

Motorvations Motorsports
(205) 661-3600
'93 Civic Si H/B with B18C1, JRSC @ 8psi
Best 1320: 12.68 at 110 mph
'95 Civic DX Coupe with H22A4... Daily driven with a baby seat in the back...
Best 1320: 13.96 at 101 mph

As for the wheel thief.... Last I heard the cops knew who one was but he took off out of town. Oh well. I've moved on. Let's hope Kharma catches up with them.

Chad! Thanx for the info... i was wondering about underdrive pulleys, and supercharging versus turbo. I know the difference between the two, and i think i would prefer supercharging to turbo. Supercharging gives power without the lag (but a little more drag), and on demand, but i know a person that is on top of the game can get a turbo almost lag-free. Not to mention the piping for a supercharger seems to leave a cleaner appearance under the hood. A full header and exhaust setup will run me close to 900... all GReddy bolt-on. Parts for these things aint cheap. I will most likely do exhaust/intake first... fuel/spark management... then cams/head/pulleys. Forced induction will be last. NO NITROUS... i have seen the bad bad bad of that world. Depends tho... ZEX makes a great kit... maybe a 50 shot... you know speed... its addictive! :devil: Heck im having fun runnin stock mustangs and camaros!! Car handles tight for it to be that old... it has the SI Aluminum wheels of that year... so some ground control coilovers to drop it a lil bit, and some cross drilled rotors should make her look sweet going slow... and bring her down fast. Sure beats the blue 1986 Accord hatch i used to have.......... LOL I ran a guy here that owns a Type R...hes got me on top speed... i can pull him all the way to 90 in 3rd... then he just walks the dog on me (hes prolly slow on the shift) ... i top out just shy of 130 mph flat-out. I say walk the dog... hes about two carlengths ahead of me. Next time ill close the sunroof! LOL Ill give that guy Jim a call and talk to him, pick his brain on what he thinks i can do. Geez... too many hobbies! My brother in law has an '02 smurf-blue BMW M3... dear god that car is sick! His wife just got one of the new Z4's....... bastards. LOL

Whats up Bubba? How you been feeling? I miss the city.... >sigh<
- Dave

:wave: :wave: :wave: Next race 17 May Saturday

:eek: :eek: Off road need s some help saturday May 10 to get the track finished. Any help any length of time.
Remember on road saturday May 17
Rusty

My TC3 is ready. My 1/12 is sorta ready. Just need to get some rear tires for that. I guess pinks or whites? I've only run 1/12 mod on pavement for a half a lap or so. :eek: Some of you were there.... Some of you saw the tape. Lol. It was a spectacle.

Dave: I have a Zex kit with a purge solenoid, pressure guage, etc... I had it in my GSR for one weekend/ bottle. Clutch couldn't hold it, and I didn't feel like taking the time to put in an aftermarket one. The car only had 12,000 miles on it at the time. I had the interior gutted at the time. I ran a best of 14.6 ish with a "65 shot", slipping clutch and a struggling driver (my first and only time on a real strip). I remember having good trap speed (indicating good power), but my 60 foot times were horrid... like 2.3's.... part clutch, part inexperienced driver. You need a real beefy clutch to run nitrous. But you can run it pretty safely motor wise. The main thing is to retard your timing a couple of degrees, and run colder spark plugs. Never over rev. Missed shifts BAD. :mad: :eek:

How do you get to stream from chesapeake. I was told that its close to the James River bridge.

Mika, I thinks it's near the intersection of Jefferson and Main st., in a little strip shop besides the brake/muffler shop. They race in the lot around back of the shop.

lastplace

After crossing the James River Bridge make a left onto Jefferson Ave.Go approx 1.3 miles and at the intersection of Jefferson and Main you will see a Big ALs Muffler Shop. Turn left at the light and right into Big Al's. Come straight through the parking lot and you will see a small strip center. Stream is located there. Next on road race, saturday 17 May. Hope to see you there.
Rusty

Rusty, Start time Saturday? What will be the classes? Is there going to be a 20 minute main for the weed eaters(nitro)?? I hope not.

They entry time will end at 10:30am. Nitro mains are 10 min.

It is now 8:45 am Saturday May 17 and we are setting up on road track.
We will race if rain holds off.
Rusty

Rusty, Great on road set up I'll be back to race soon! :thumbsup:

Glad you liked it.Tell your friends.

Next on road race is May31 Registration ends at 10:30am. Racing starts at 11:00am. Come race at the best road course in the area. Long straight and smooth surface. Rule #1 have fun.
Rusty

Thanks alot guys for the info. Wasn't able to make it to the last race but I hope to make the next one. How is eveything going last place? How is your son doing in the oval class? Hope to see everyone soon.

Melvin AKA BENZ TEK :cool:

Melvin, Stream has a nice outdoor set-up, you should try it out. Taylor is doing great, Earl helped with the set up and Taylor has improved his driving skills.

Try and make the next race, the layout is great and you'll know most of the people there.

Can you fix Volvo front end bushings??????

lastplace

Melvin... been tryin to call you... your fone wont let me through with the new ## you left me! Whats the deal?! Call me...
- Dave

Hey, you all might remember me from the other track (I had the yellow stratus woth the paint coming off). What's up Mel?
Anyway, I bought a used Bloody Carpet Knife a while back and havn't used it. It's set up and comes with a FM transmitter(no rcvr),servo and personal transponder along with a sweet speed 8 body that has never seen a track (or wall!)
Anyone interested? I live right next to Stream, so I could bring it by.
Hope all is going well in the racing world.
Chris :wave:

Hey everyone, i have a decked out trinity reflex, turbo 35, fantom dyno and laptop for sale. i'm trying to replace my stolen 1/8 scale before the regionals. anyone interested contact Brian Higgins 757-490-3423 thanks

Brian, Sorry to hear about your loss.

Mika Hakkinen - just come over the JRB toward Newport News and hang a left onto Jefferson Ave. Follow that up maybe 8 lights & it's on the left. (OK locals, correct me if I'm wrong. Just trying to help!)

Chad, Chris, Melvin, & Dave, what's up guys? (Only 4 people I know here)
Man, been road trippin' for rc (and going to hit BMS, Coopers, hopefully Chatham for the triple legger races and hopefully MSA) & racin' some non-rc this summer. Got myself hoppin' big time! Even am getting some "help" through some local businesses to race the non-rc stuff this summer. Moocho good! LOL. Beats having to pay for it out of my pocket. (Yeah, right, married with children!)
I'll be going to the outdoor oval mecha (sp) this summer. Ahhhh, BMS. I'll be hitting that monster with my (dig this) nitro oval car! OMG, BALLISTIC! And the you'll hear "Caution turn one!"
Dave, my condolences go out to you. Sorry man but I just "got the word" not long ago.......

PS. Have FUN out there!!!!!!!!!!!!!

SLong!! Whats up hoss?! "Got the word?" You make it sound like i lost my penis or something! Can i say penis on here? Penis IS a medical term... right? :lol: Sorry... just went aLONG with your screen name so well... :devil: Whatcha gonna be racing full scale Slong? You hookin up with anyone out at Langley? You think married with children is hard on the wallet... try married, divorced AND children!! How did everything turn out with your family upstate?! And where oh where is Psycho?? Is he still racin with yas too?
- Dave

:roll: :roll: :wave: :wave: On road Saturday may 31 at Stream Hobby Shop Registration ends at 10:30am Racing starts at 11AM.
Rusty

Weather looks to be pretty decent. We may have to make sure we move through the heats kind of quick, since later in the afternoon the chance of rain increases.

SLONG!!!! Good to hear from you. You thinking of bringing the Charlie Brown taxi out of retirement? Please do. Our on-road layout is fast smooth and a lot of fun. Does Tommy have a TC? As for the directions.... You got it. Strip mall next to Big Al's on the corner of Jefferson and Main st. Can't miss it. You'll see everyone parked in the grass behind the strip mall. Keep us all posted on the full scale stuff, too. We'll come out and support.

Dave: I have no idea what you guys are talking about. I hope all is well.


Though I have no personal involvement...... I hope your penis is o.k. as well. :lol:

Well another washout. Rain Rain Rain Next wek is off road.
SOCKS RULE

OK

I guess we're just going to have accept the fact that it always rains on Saturday.

Hey guys, it doesn't rain indoors and you guys are welcome to come on over and run the TC's indoors when it rains you out at Rusty's place. We are still running and open for business.
We are planning on running an endurance race for each class with three cars and three driver teams soon! Cash team entrance and cash payout, it would be worth your while, looking to run each class about a 1000 laps. Now that would be some fun! Get three of your buddys and hook up for some long term fun! lol Anyway see ya guys later!
Type AA :wave:

Hey Melvin if you are following this thread. I have something for you at the track you need to come by and pick it up!
Type AA :rolleyes:

I will try to get by there during the week. I've been so busy lately on the weekends. I like the idea of the enduro race ;) Say hi to everyone for me.

SLONG
Good to hear from you. Nitro Oval huuh. Let me know when you run that on the track... I'll take off a sick day to see that :thumbsup:

Dave
My number has changed to 757-971-9506. My boss found out my old number and would call me on the weekend trying to get me to work. :dude: What kind of wakky tobacky is he smoking. Oh I am going to try the ball ends I got from snowbirds to see how they hold up. Send me pics of the track when you get a chance.

laterz

Oh I forgot to tell you that the New phone# is on the new GSM network so it takes a couple of extra second before it hits my phone. The new V70 is nice.

Next On Road 14 June. It will not rain!!!!!!
Rusty

I hope not. I'll probably be working anyway.

Where & when will this endurance race be held? Are you talking about touring or oval? I'm definately interested in that, if it's touring. I'll need to find a 3rd driver though...

EmptyCan,
Yes we will run an endurance race for the Touring car class if we can get enough entrants. You will run a road course through the infield of the oval track and utilize part of the oval. We are working out the detail at this time, but it is looking as if it will be a team effort with three team drivers and one car. This will be a cash payout, based on the number of entries for each class. Hopefully we will have flyers and entry forms by the end of this month. It will be a hoot I am sure!

Thanks, Type AA ;)

:wave: :wave: On Road Saturday June 14. Bring your 1/12 scales.
It will not rain.
Rusty

Type AA,
Sounds great to me, I'm up for it...Let me know when & where!

Rusty,
I'll be there provided it doesn't rain & I don't have to work.

On road racing Saturday June 14. I'll be here by 8am. Any help for track set up will be remembered.
Rusty

It didn't rain but it was hot!!!! Next is off road. We had a good turnout today. Next race 21 June.
Rusty