I just measured my "Pod Doors" and they are 6.25 inches square. I want to know who's Jupiter 2 is that at the Sci-fi museum that is displayed on the launch tower? Jeins? I plan to display my 4 foot job on a similar tower, just as soon as I make some scale drawings...


Yep - that be Jein's at the Sci-Fi Museum.

How "authentic" are you planning that tower to be ... ? :devil:

Thanks! I need to make ones that will work with whatever mechanics I use, and I don't want to use commercially available items. I'm hard core!

Not that I think Key would sell or provide any patterns he might have of the 4 footer's landing legs - I'm surprised at your reason for dismissing these off so easily. :cool:

Whatever materials Key has in regards to the landing gear , it is based upon the actual "original" gear that was used on the prop. He borrowed one of the original legs from Jein when he built that 4 foot J2 replica featured on his site.

You've always talked about making a 4' J2 exact to the studio filming prop - I would think you'd jump at the chance of having a peek at the originals rather than "make ones that will work with whatever mechanics I use". It just surprises me is all. I'm not criticising or anything like that.

If you go here and view the Azarian J2 (http://www.lostintoys.com/museum/j2prop.html) - look at the first picture of shown of landing gear and notice how wrong it looks- that's one of the reproduction legs made by ... ??? :freak:

The following two pictures are of the original legs that Jein sold to Azarian (where is the THIRD ????) - the differences are pretty dramatic IMHO. :thumbsup:

Greenwood during the restoration process mentions that he has no access to the original fusion core or the landing legs - all of which would have to be fabricated. Thus meaning the restored Hero was incomplete - at least in regards to "originality" - Jein had all those pieces - they are the most "authentic" pieces known to exist.

Like I said earlier - Azarian has since purchased (I believe quantity-wise) two of Jein's landing legs - I am not sure about the third , whether Azarian already had it , whether Jein ever had it , whether Jein still has it .. whether it was lost in space with the bubble dome electronics/mechanics... etc... The Sci-Fi Museum has the Jein fusion core - I've never seen what Azarian's has.

BTW:

If you visited the Azarian J2 page linked above and also wondered why there is really no mention of it on the Jup2.com website , scroll to the bottom of that page and you'll read:

- (C) 1998-2005 THE AZARIAN COLLECTION, Owner -
Unauthorized reproduction of photo or text is unauthorized
and illegal. Violators will be prosecuted.

He has warned me NOT to use any of his materials on my website.

& in not so nice language to boot! :eek:

Lastly (I've been long winded today) -

In commeriation of the Jupiter 2 Launch Date Anniversary on October 16th I was working on a page for the site which dealt with the J2 retoration process by Greenwood. Unfortunately due to technical problems with the video file and uploading / codecs etc... I never got it finished in time - it's still not finished or available via the website..

But it is my source for the comments made by Greenwood that I meantioned in previous posts.

There is a 3MB sample clip and then a link to dl the 260MB 20 minute video (that's where my problems began - lol) if you want to see the unfinished page and the sample clip then click here (http://jupiter2.freeyellow.com/video/testvdl.htm).

The larger video does not contain the complete restoration - actually only a brief 12 minute window or so - I think my 20 minutes listed on the page is excessive. I'll try to make it available online at some point.

If there is a lil picture following this message - I couldn't figure out how to insert a picture into this message - I tried attaching it - dunno where it went or where it will appear after posting this. :freak: lol

The 2nd 2 photos are of the original gear legs as they show the wear n tear and smoke damage. I'm planning mine to look like THAT. I am looking into a water cutter approach from a local metal fabricator. The possibilities are:

1. both sides and the bottom as one piece - folded and a second piece spot welded to the bottom for the cover, and steps also spot welded in place.

2. individual sides cut of one material, a thicker stuff for bottom and steps, screwed together

3. sides cut and welded to bottom material and steps screwed in place.

I don't want to have to give anyone else credit for the model I'm building. I may be using a jack-shaft system to move the legs, or it might be pullies, or it might be a simple system where the up n down is powered by a wimpy method, so the legs only support the model when the legs are down & set instead of being able to pick itself up by shear force of the gear.

I've noticed that the 2 opposing sides of the side holes are drilled and the other 2 are at sharp edges. so the upper inside and lower outside of each hole is drilled, and the other 2 are at sharp angles. Also, the front edge of the stoop is angled in at the top. I have been using Azarians photos as the main reference of surface detail. I'm NOT cuttin' the top off or nuthin' !!!

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anyone got their crew kit yet? nothing here. im not surprised

anyone got their crew kit yet? nothing here. im not surprised
10 -20-05

anyone got their crew kit yet? nothing here. im not surprised
10 -20-05
10-31-05 happy modeler, hey phil, how big are the fiqures looks like a very fine point brush will be needed, are you going to paint them in their space suits or the regular colored crew clothes ?

hi bert

ill do them i believe in the silver suits. i think. i wish there more of the kits available. i would of bought two. thanks for the tip

those are going to look great phil, let me know when you have got them almost finished.
Bert

LISfan got his figures from Frets, so let's move on and let this thread die.
AT