I like the aero dish foams but the rest of it is pretty standard 12th scale.Looks pretty good though.

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Take I96 all the way till you hit 28th st, Go East on 28th st until you hit Thornhills dr. It's about 1.3 miles. When you pass a Pizza Hut on your right, it'll be the next stoplight. Take a right and it's the BIG building that says comedy den and cadillac jacks. I added a little to it.

So can anyone tell me what a Jr XR3 and a Losi Matt Frances XXX-T have in commen?



Well they are just some of the prizes we are giving away on saturday to our racers.

Originally posted by nitrorod
So can anyone tell me what a Jr XR3 and a Team Losi Matt Francis XXX-T have in common?

Well... they are just some of the prizes we are giving away on saturday to our racers.

Yep, no doubt about it! That's only two of the many, many items we'll be giving away courtesey of Rider's Hobby Shop. So don't miss your last chance to run outdoors this year, and win some nice prizes to boot!!!!!!!!

even though you beat me (hippie freak) at least i cut my hair and dont cry about losin besides were just racing for fun anyway so quit whining about how i build my motor at least i dont use bearings like some other people do to win if i recall your not a supurb driver yourself:wave: :rolleyes:

well fred i really dont like the fact eric thinks he is better than anyone we race for fun not millions of $,s

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1778901186[eBay logo] Here you guys novak gt7 buy it now for 119.00 only 6 left item# 1778901186

Originally posted by goodnplenty
well fred i really dont like the fact eric thinks he is better than anyone we race for fun not millions of $,s

Originally posted by goodnplenty even though you beat me (hippie freak) at least i cut my hair and dont cry about losin besides were just racing for fun anyway so quit whining about how i build my motor at least i dont use bearings like some other people do to win if i recall your not a supurb driver yourself [/B]


Ok first and foremost it's NONE of your business whether someone cuts their hair or not. Last time i checked he wasn't crying about "losin". Second did he ever say he was a superb driver??? Didn't think so. Third has he ever said he is the best person out there?? No?? I didn't think so. And last but not least he IS in it for fun. If he was in it to make millions then we'd have everything brand spanking new and i sure as hell don't see that. Get your facts straight before your open your mouth. I'm getting kind of sick of hearing it. Especially from you.

:rolleyes:

First off Brian, I never claimed to be a better driver than anyone at the track. As a matter of fact there are quite a few people there that are a lot better than me. Second, when did I say I was in it for the money? I could care less if I win or lose. Its fun. It keeps me out of trouble. Something I don't think you can honestly say. Third, I don't cheat. I never have. Feel free to check any part on any of my cars. the correct arms are in the correct cans. The only bearings are in the wheels and hubs. All the winds are on the motors. The proof is out there that "cheaters don't win". Or if they do they get caught.

And finally- I started the "Long Haired Hippie Freak" thing years ago, so please don't take credit for it. I don't care if you don't like the fact that I have long hair. It's your problem, not mine. If you have a problem with it, see me at the track.


P.S. Get anything good from Riders lately?

WOW :eek:

Sorry Ken, but people are getting tired of peoples mouths. It's not just me either. I can name two people (but I won't here) who are one or two comments shy of having body parts abused. People are getting tired of the attitudes and the B.S. All you need to do is keep an ear open at the track and you'll know who they are.

I just call it like I see it.

Excellent day of racing guys!!! Touring cars were clean for the most part and 12th scale was a blast!!! If only my speedo would have kept working. Instead I had to bum one off Johnny Boy. Oh well, maybe next week. Looks like anybody running 12th scale is going to have their work cut out for them if they want to catch Wally World!

MUST HAVE MORE 12TH SCALE!!!:devil: :D :devil:

Ok guys and girls here it is the New and improved results page: Link (http://home.attbi.com/~jglover37/GLRC_Results.htm)

Hey J-Rod, is the website going to be kept up this year?

Originally posted by psycho02
WOW :eek:

I'm with you there. Yowza! Kinda nice to see it left up, though. Sometimes it's best to let some "true colors" show through.

Oh, and Damage, just wait till next week. My 1/12th is coming along nicely and next week I'll have a real motor. And hopefully all the screws in my car. And the tyres pointing in the right direction...:rolleyes: .

And as for the rest of ya, WHERE THE HECK ARE YOUR 1/12TH SCALERS.

later......

WOW what a day of racing that was I thought rocky(ob1)and bull winkle(jayrod) were going to go at it .Just remember boys these are just little toy cars and not some thing to kill over but I think jayrod would have been spanked . So please can?t we just get along .:devil: :confused:

Hey Bill, I think we may have to pool resources or share some setup tips to try to catch up with Dave though. He told me after the main that he was conserving the electrons... AND HE STILL WHOOPED OUR BUTTS!!!:D :devil:

Yes Eric I plan to update every week and hopefully we will get some new pictures of the place to show off also.


For those of you that are unaware here are some copys of some RULES that we follow:

TURN MARSHALING

2-30: Drivers must marshal for their designated race. Another qualified ROAR member may substitute with the approval of the Race Director. It is the driver’s responsibility to find a substitute marshal. The original marshal is responsible for the actions of the substitute.

2-31: Turn marshals are not permitted to repair cars, and must not abandon their post to get a car to a pit man for repairs. Marshals will take disabled vehicles to the closest outer edge of the race track as soon as possible. Vehicles still racing have priority over handling of disabled vehicles.

2-32: A car running on the track has the right-of-way over a car that has gone off the track, turned over, or otherwise had problems. Turn marshals will treat all corrective matters equally.

2-33: When marshaling a car, it should be returned to the point where it left the racing surface. Care must be exercised not to interfere with on-coming cars.

Well why dont you say who you are since you know so much?

Originally posted by 9x2
WOW what a day of racing that was I thought rocky(ob1)and bull winkle(jayrod) were going to go at it .Just remember boys these are just little toy cars and not some thing to kill over but I think jayrod would have been spanked . So please can?t we just get along .:devil: :confused:

Originally posted by 9x2
WOW what a day of racing that was I thought rocky(ob1)and bull winkle(jayrod) were going to go at it .Just remember boys these are just little toy cars and not some thing to kill over but I think jayrod would have been spanked . So please can?t we just get along .:devil: :confused:


I must agree. I thought somebody was gonna get decked there for a minute. Screws work loose on cars all the time. If you're on the drivers stand, you have no control over it. I had a ball stud work loos on the T.C. in the first round and I thought they were all tight because I haven't had a screw or anything work loose in the longest time. There are VERY few people that check every screw on their cars before or after every run. I think thats a mistake everybody has made at one time or another. And I think it's a pretty safe bet that it will happen again, BECAUSE IT HAPPENS. There was no damage done overall. Why sweat it?

Come on guys. Lets not start this up again. Stop this B.S. talk hiding behind screen names or whatever. We're all adults here... (Unless you're one the the "kid" racers.) Why don't we start acting like it?

Originally posted by nitrorod
Well why dont you say who you are since you know so much? I think not this is to much fun did i get your goat a little there.:wave: :wave:

Guess it was too much to ask...

9x2,
If it makes you feel good go for it.

Eric,
I am just saying that I dont like it when people feel it neccecary to destroy the things that not only myself but many others in the club have worked so hard for. I know that there were many of us there that spent a week laying that carpet that dont want to see it trached just so one person can get one more lap with there broken car.

More Rules:

5-43: The armature, motor can, and endbell of a rebuildable stock motor must all be from the same motor manufacturer and can contain only components from the same model. No hybrid motors or mixing of parts from different models will be permitted.

Originally posted by 9x2
I think not this is to much fun did i get your goat a little there.:wave: :wave:

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Come on guys. Lets not start this up again. Stop this B.S. talk hiding behind screen names or whatever. We're all adults here... (Unless you're one the the "kid" racers.) Why don't we start acting like it? SAy OUT OF THIS AND YOU Should talk about starting0 B.S. I have read some of your post you need to go back and read them.:wave:

First, last time I checked this was a public forum.Second, I don't start the B.S.. I make comments on what has been posted or said and then I take any issues up face to face with the person. Not hiding behind a screen name. Third, Everybody KNOWS who I am. I don't sneak around behind me S.N. and make rude comments about people. If you have an issue with that or if you DON'T know who I am, my name is Eric Kelly, the long haired hippie freak, and I'll be at the track this Sunday. So if you want, you can take it up with me there. Now, do you have the guts to say who you are, or are you going to hide like a coward?

Originally posted by nitrorod
9x2,
If it makes you feel good go for it.

Eric,
I am just saying that I dont like it when people feel it neccecary to destroy the things that not only myself but many others in the club have worked so hard for. I know that there were many of us there that spent a week laying that carpet that dont want to see it trached just so one person can get one more lap with there broken car.

More Rules:

5-43: The armature, motor can, and endbell of a rebuildable stock motor must all be from the same motor manufacturer and can contain only components from the same model. No hybrid motors or mixing of parts from different models will be permitted. I don't think ob1 was trying destroy any thing he just wanted to see his car and you throw a fit !! Like as if this was the biggest race of your life and not just a club race. AND I KNOW HOW MUCH HARD WORK YOU ALL HAVE DONE FOR THIS CULB AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH BUT CILLLLLL OUT

:eek: :mad: :eek:

J-Rod, Don't take this wrong and I don't mean to sound snotty, but I know the rules. I've read the ROAR rulebook for the last 7 years. I know how much work goes into the track, I've been helping John do it for the last 5 years. It's just I don't think anybody there is intentionally trying to "destroy" the track. Things happen. Parts break. Screws fall out. Can you honestly tell me it has never happened to you? It's happened to me more than I want to admit. And yes, I know the rules for marshalls, but we're not running a "strict rule" thing here are we? I mean, nobody needs to be a time nazi and start races at an exact time do they? I mean, so what, OB1's bumper broke. It pulled up some tape and a little carpet. Was the carpet torn? I looked and I didn't see anything. I'm just saying little things don't need to turn into all out shouting matches and/or slug fests. It doesn't do the track any good. We're all there to have fun. EVERYBODY needs to just sit back, relax, and take this for what it is. A hobby.

But, enough of my "Martin Luther King" shpeal. I'm going to bed...:devil:

Well I do agree that if the track was not seriously damaged that the issue should be over with, With that said we all know and should respect the fact that if a screw or anything is hanging off the bottom of the car you need to pull your car immediately. It is the same in Nascar or other forms of auto racing where say you blow an engine and you are dropping oil all over the place you get the black flag. Same thing here. As far as the schedule thing I am inclined to say that you should stay on a scheduled amount of time between heats. And if you are not ready to go then you are not ready. I have had my times where I was not ready and when that happens if I can't make it within the alloted time I just tell them to go and sit that heat out. The racers who are ready should not have to wait for the ones that ar'nt ready. You can't penalize someone for having there stuff together. You should probably have a maximum time of 3 minutes between heats. That is plenty of time to get the transponder out put the car down on your pit table and get back out to marshall, I know because the mars series only gives you 2 mins and you usually have to go alot further to get to your pit and if you are not there you lose a lap off your main time. I just feel that you can't make it a habit of waiting all the time because then eventually you will have to wait for everyone all the time and we will be racing until midnight. Part of racing is having your stuff together and getting on the line at the prescribed time.


just another version of my 2 cents

Ken,

I can't agree with you more. We left at what, 7:30 - 8:00?? And we had how many racers???? And many of us like Tom Konesni and yourself have to drive well over an hour to get home on a Sunday night is not acceptable in my opinion.

And about the fur flying today, did anybody notice that there's a full moon out tonight?? Anyway, I will have to insist that it doesn't happen again. We're a family oriented club. Tempers and LOUD foul language need to go elsewhere. I'm not going to address anyone in particular, I'm just going to ask that it ceases.

And about that full moon, I can prove that strange things happen when it's out..... just look, the Lions won today, strange!

Originally posted by nitrorod

2-31: Turn marshals are not permitted to repair cars, and must not abandon their post to get a car to a pit man for repairs. Marshals will take disabled vehicles to the closest outer edge of the race track as soon as possible. Vehicles still racing have priority over handling of disabled vehicles.

2-33: When marshaling a car, it should be returned to the point where it left the racing surface. Care must be exercised not to interfere with on-coming cars.


I'm sorry but I'm going to have to go with the majority here on this one. I too have been helping out with this club and the club in K.C. before moving here, and even though we all go by "ROAR" rules we never have followed the rules to the "T" so to say. Everybody that marshals has worked on a car at one point or time in a race, I know I have many times. Afterall we are just playing with our toy cars here. But I don't see anywhere in the the quoted rules for turnmarshalls to throw a racers car to the ground and begin yelling profanities at them anywhere. I personaly think an oplogy should be in order. That was not the best way to handle the situation, that's for sure. I'm just glad you didn't see what happened during the oval race when one guys car was set a little too low and completely pulled up one section of carpet about 20' long and the rest of the field came roaring into that piece and almost pulled up the entire section of carpet. Man, it would have been WWIII and WWIV all at the same time.

wowWOWwow are we haveing fun with this one . I would like think we are racing for the fun of it and not to rule over your fellow racer. I KNOW how much some of you have done for the club and i just like thank all of you for it. and the man behind the mask show your face (JW)hehehe maybe or maybe not.:lol: :lol:

Originally posted by nitrorod
Eric,
I am just saying that I dont like it when people feel it neccecary to destroy the things that not only myself but many others in the club have worked so hard for. I know that there were many of us there that spent a week laying that carpet that dont want to see it trached just so one person can get one more lap with there broken car.

Ok Jerrod i really doubt that OB1 was trying to destroy The carpet especially when he was there helping them build the stuff at the tracks. I find THAT hard to believe. And yes i know i wasn't there today. But i heard all about it and i have been there before and helped out before and i don't even race! I also know most of the raers and i seriously doubt that they are out to damage the club stuff that they want to race on.....

But as i said that is just my 2 cents worth....


Oh and Ken i definitely agree with you about the time between the heats. A lot of times people have to break plans because other people just don't want to either be on time to race or to marshall....kinda ridiculous isn't it???

Yes I agree that we have all worked on a car when it is something easy to fix like a ballcup but when it is something bad like a bumper hanging off and a screw hanging down 3/4 of an inch we turn the car off for the guy right? That was what I was doing when I was yelled at to "bring it over here now". I also think an oplogy is in order but to me for threats made to me.


Originally posted by Phat Dakota
I'm sorry but I'm going to have to go with the majority here on this one. I too have been helping out with this club and the club in K.C. before moving here, and even though we all go by "ROAR" rules we never have followed the rules to the "T" so to say. Everybody that marshals has worked on a car at one point or time in a race, I know I have many times. Afterall we are just playing with our toy cars here. But I don't see anywhere in the the quoted rules for turnmarshalls to throw a racers car to the ground and begin yelling profanities at them anywhere. I personaly think an oplogy should be in order. That was not the best way to handle the situation, that's for sure. I'm just glad you didn't see what happened during the oval race when one guys car was set a little too low and completely pulled up one section of carpet about 20' long and the rest of the field came roaring into that piece and almost pulled up the entire section of carpet. Man, it would have been WWIII and WWIV all at the same time.

Okay, why don't we just simply drop it. Airing our woes here doesn't do anything for our club or it's reputation. We've already been through this once before with different circumstances. So...... if this needs to be discussed further, do it in person!:mad:

John - We discussed the idea of a formal pre-race drivers meeting on a few different occasions. This might be a good time to consider such a thing, I think it would clear-up and/or avoid situations where people don't want to bother finding out the track rules, or relative newcomers don't feel lost. I come to the track to hang out with a fun bunch of guys & get beat in a friendly racing environment, bad tempers do nothing but drive people away.

The opinion of someone who doesn't know what's going on...

Denney

I agree with both John and Denney on this lets have drivers meetings and then lets race darn it. That is after all what we are supposed to be doing.:mad: :thumbsup: ;) :D

Doing the driver's meetings is all good, but it's a shame we have to go through it other than for the beginners. "Most" of us have been racing together for many years now and know what the right and wrong things are that we do.

But the one thing I must stress is that this chosen hobby of ours is supposed to be all about having fun. If some of you would rather argue, disagree and fight then maybe you should stay home or find a different hobby. There's no place in our organization for it.

I've been doing this for many, many years now and have always enjoyed it. If this is what the future of R/C has to offer, then I'll find another way to spend my time as will many others.

After all, this isn't a marriage, it's just a group of people that all share the same goals. Racing, making friends and having some good honest competition in the process....... Right???

One more thing.... If there's an apology (notice spelling) to be made, it should be made to the people that were there TRYING to have fun. They unfortunately were the ones that suffered!

John - I agree completely, but don't think of a driver's meeting as info for beginners only. In real racing, where lives are on the line, a meeting is held before every race and even the 30-year veterans take it seriously. Now r/c is a bit less dangerous, but knowing about track problems, marshalling, watching out for hazards in the pit area, etc should not be exclusive to beginners (does make us feel a bit less nervous though...).

Up to 4 cents...

Denney

Originally posted by John Warner
Tempers and LOUD foul language need to go elsewhere...

Right. Sorry 'bout that. But did you sit anywhere near Brown sunday? Something crawled up inside that boy and died! Even paragon wasn't killing that stank! Team guys literally stink!

And Eric, here's what I have to share.... ask Jeffy. Thats pretty much all I know at this moment. Oh, and lock-tite metal-on-metal fastners. Thats what did me in after the third round. Now if I can figure out how to straighten out a front end. Why doesn't Hudy make set-up fixtures for 1/12th scale!

And I really think we need to institute a one minute warning for races. If you can't make it, tough. We've got a way bigger problem there than marshalling.....

I'm afraid I have to agree with Denney on this one Johnny Boy. Do you know how many drivers meetings Bobby Labonte has gone through since the start of his career? Over 260 since 1991! Now I'm not saying we should have one every week. How about once a month? Then maybe the drivers wouldn't blow coniption fits every time a marshall doesn't get to their car 2 seconds after it crashes or people wouldn't be arguing over what is considered a "stock" motor.. I'm not trying to dig up the past, but these are just a couple examples of what I myself has heard. Granted, the "rookies" to this hobby probably don't know many of the rules, but even some of us "veterans" need a reminder once in a while. Otherwise it may turn into a free for all as to what is being run with people trying to get away with light chassis or mod motors in stock classes. I would suggest "random teching" of cars but that would make people feel like they are being singled out. I don't know. But a drivers meeting would let everybody know what direction everybody wants to go.


There's MY 2 cents worth- Gotta get cracking if I want to catch up to Denney... :devil: :lol:

Oh- and just for you Johnny Boy- Dale Earnhardt attended over 665 drivers meetings!!!:lol: :devil:

Originally posted by John Warner
Doing the driver's meetings is all good, but it's a shame we have to go through it other than for the beginners. "Most" of us have been racing together for many years now and know what the right and wrong things are that we do.

But the one thing I must stress is that this chosen hobby of ours is supposed to be all about having fun. If some of you would rather argue, disagree and fight then maybe you should stay home or find a different hobby. There's no place in our organization for it.

I've been doing this for many, many years now and have always enjoyed it. If this is what the future of R/C has to offer, then I'll find another way to spend my time as will many others.

After all, this isn't a marriage, it's just a group of people that all share the same goals. Racing, making friends and having some good honest competition in the process....... Right???

Again hail to our president I agree with you totally John.

Can we not just race and have fun? That 12th scale main was one of the funnest races I have been in, in over a year And I would like to continue having that kind of fun. WE need to realize as a club that we are fortunate to have a place to run on carpet. All you have to do is look right here in Grand Rapids where the other club is NOT racing indoors this year. At least that I know about. they are driving to Lansing and Toledo to run carpet.
NOW on another note WE NEED MORE 12TH SCALES RUNNING pure and simple. If you have not experienced running 12th scale you should. You will like it. and besides it's MANDATORY and oh by the way it's not really mandatory. John said some people were asking him if it was mandatory for real. No it's not really mandatory we would just like to see alot more of them at the track. And just so people know if you run touring car on sunday and run 12th scale as a second class it is only FIVE DOLLARSthats right peopleFIVE DOLLARS So lets go over the list. 1 the car is cheap 2 the batteries are cheaper (4 cell)3 the motors will last four times longer than in a touring car 4 tires are easy to figure out 5 and they are a blast to race. Simple enough to me EVERYBODY should run 12th scale.

Thanks Ken, I appreciate the kind words.

But on a totally different note, hows those of
you with the new Novak GT-7's liking them???

NOTICE.....
To ALL who attend races with us this weekend, there
will be a drivers meeting prior to the first heat!

Also, quick question for Kickyfast...
when are you going to come inside
and try kicking some butt??

I found this on TTT.

MR.BILL
Rookie

Registered: May 2002
Location: OHIO
Posts: 31
INDOOR CHAMPS 2002
SOME PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE SAD

THE 2002 INDOOR CHAMPS IS SOLD OUT

IF YOU HAVE A ENTRY IN THE MAIL WE WILL DO ALL WE CAN TO GET YOU IN, IF NOT YOU WILL GET BACK IN THE MAIL ASAP AGAIN WE ARE SOLD OUT. Iam SORRY IF YOU DID NOT GET IN. THANK TO ALL MR.BILL

John go with lrp stay away from novak. enough said.

sorry for being so truant in reading these posts
but i dont get on here that often anymore.

i guess if everyone has thier panties in a bunch i'll
be the first to apologize, to all those whose fun i
ruined. with that said, i guess i'll explain myself.
i simply asked someone to hand me the car, nothing else.
i didn't ask for attitude. but i have learned how better
to deal with these situations than yelling or screaming.
so i guess by-gone's

hope ta smyle at ya at da trak