Ken, I can understand where your comming from. On the other hand I'm finding that I like to get out and race with other people at other tracks. Last winter I did'nt race any series because I was comitted at GLRC, This summer I was all over the place and quit frankly enjoyed myself and am looking forward to the CRL series this season.
The point is, we do what we do, so lets let this subject go.
Thanks

Agreed Freddy. And I think people will travel for a series. But they are not going to travel to alot of "club races". Like I said just the other night I posted news of a guy who wants to build a building just south of grand haven. And everybody from g.l.r.c. that responed that night basically posted that, that was going to be too far of a drive from the g.r. area. So that was my thought on that. You are right though people will travel for the c.r.l. or the m.o.r.l. or the m.a.r.s. but I just don't believe that people will travel very far for club races on a consistent basis.

are there races this Sat?...10/5

What time are we working on the track tommarrow.You name the time I will be there.:thumbsup:

Originally posted by nitrorod
What if we look at starting on-road later on sunday to help people have time to get there?

Like it's that hard to get there on time now??? Races don't start until noon and then they aren't usually started on time anyhow.... Seems to me someone just doesn't want to have to get there until about 2 or 3....

Originally posted by your pal
how would you know you dont race anyway

First off, she's the wife of a racer, me, so she knows.

Second, I think the only reason that people don't want to go to West Olive is that G.R. is a more centralized location. It's not a convienience to John since he lives in Hastings, and it's not one for me because I'm in Wayland. We have people coming in from Lansing and Kalamazoo also...

Third, I don't think the schedule should be changed. Everybody knows that Oval is saturday, Off-road is saturday night, and Road Course is sunday. If clubs started changing their schedules trying to get more people in, they would have LESS people because they wouldn't know what track raced what class at what time...


Just my opinion and two cents worth...:devil: :D :devil:

Originally posted by your pal
how would you know you dont race anyway

How strange... This comment sounds strangely familiar... I heard somebody who is not very well liked mutter this about the same person not to long ago... I wonder if I know who you are, hmmm?:eek: :devil:

Ok lots to cover here so here we go

1. I will be opening the new building up on saturaday at about 10:30 anyone that wants to help please come on over.

2. I have never said that stadium racing should be moved, we cant mess with it because we all know that that is what pays the rent.

3. As far as when we start on-road I fell we should set the time to start at 1:00 this will let people that go to church or anything eles on sunday morning (the lords day) the time to get to the track. If we dont start till 1:00-2:00 (even if we say noon) anywhay then it should not hurt anyones fellings.

4. As far as being the last one at the track saturaday nights then be back first thing sunday morning I think that I did that more times than many "Board Members" even though I am not on the "board" because some of them had to go to the bar.

5. Your Pal- cool

Wow, before the crap gets deep, how'ed set-up go tonight?

Originally posted by your pal
well on saturday racing why dont you just have every thing on sat. like outdoors,start at 8:00a.m. if you cant get your butt out of bed you shouldnt care there is always next weekend if its that impotent you will be there that way everyone can have sunday to go race somewhere else or just stay home and watch nascar.:dude: :dude: :dude:

I have no problem racing any day of the week. I also have kids. Sometime priorities come first. Don't have a family, huh? some racers do and things don't always work out as planned. If you are who I think you are (hiding behind a new name), you also know that I've been helping with GLRC for 5-6 years, and have seen "good" ideas fall flat... John asked for input and people are giving it. The club is not a monopoly. It has never been, to my knowledge, what any one person wanted, excluding a certain person that is...

Any guesses?

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
How strange... This comment sounds strangely familiar... I heard somebody who is not very well liked mutter this about the same person not to long ago... I wonder if I know who you are, hmmm?:eek: :devil:

Good we got alot of stuff moved out of the way.

Originally posted by knapster
Wow, before the crap gets deep, how'ed set-up go tonight?

There are actually two... And they both happen to be signed on right now. One I know is joking, the other needs to have his head positioned correctly. I'll let the guilty parties sort it out amongst themselves and I'LL take care of the problem when the proper time arrises...:devil:


And for now, I won't say any more on the matter:p

Hey Jerrod- hows the place look on the inside? I haven't been in there in a while. How much do you think will be able to get done tomorrow? I was going to be there Thursaday but Johnny Boy called me at the last minute and said it was cancelled due to football practice. If I knew anybody was going to be there tonight I would have bee there. Did Johnny Boy drive the big ole bus up?

Originally posted by your pal
its nowwwwww or nevverrrrrrrrr

I'll just make this last comment... YOU won't know that I know until it's too late...:devil:

Your not threating anyone are you?


Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
There are actually two... And they both happen to be signed on right now. One I know is joking, the other needs to have his head positioned correctly. I'll let the guilty parties sort it out amongst themselves and I'LL take care of the problem when the proper time arrises...:devil:


And for now, I won't say any more on the matter:p

Hey Andy- hows the truck look? John said ya got a little over zealous on the drivers(?) door!!!

The place looks ok. The bus should be up there on saturaday.

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Hey Jerrod- hows the place look on the inside? I haven't been in there in a while. How much do you think will be able to get done tomorrow? I was going to be there Thursaday but Johnny Boy called me at the last minute and said it was cancelled due to football practice. If I knew anybody was going to be there tonight I would have bee there. Did Johnny Boy drive the big ole bus up?

Originally posted by nitrorod
Your not threating anyone are you?

ME?! NEVER!!! I'll just take care of any problems in a the necessary manner when the time comes...:devil:

Originally posted by nitrorod
The place looks ok. The bus should be up there on saturaday.

Cool. I already made plans for saturday (not knowing we'd be building the track) but I'll see if I can squeak in for a while...

How long will you be there on saturday j-glo. I too like john coach for my sons football team and we have a game tomorrow at 9:00 and then I could head that way after that.


As far as the west olive deal. I will admit that the location is not prime. My only point for bringing it up is that it would be the same building all the time, which would make it easy to attract new people because everyone would know where we were at, And the guy who wants to do this is'nt looking to make any money like a landlord or real estate agent so he would'nt kill the club on rent. I just don't want to see the club have to close the doors because they can't pay the bills.

All day



Originally posted by psycho02
How long will you be there on saturday j-glo. I too like john coach for my sons football team and we have a game tomorrow at 9:00 and then I could head that way after that.


As far as the west olive deal. I will admit that the location is not prime. My only point for bringing it up is that it would be the same building all the time, which would make it easy to attract new people because everyone would know where we were at, And the guy who wants to do this is'nt looking to make any money like a landlord or real estate agent so he would'nt kill the club on rent. I just don't want to see the club have to close the doors because they can't pay the bills.

I am going to build the building for carpet racing next season. Its a sure thing, also indoor dirt, and offroad outside as well as a dirt oval. I think there is enough racers in the area to be fun.

Yep build it chad. I would, someone will race in it.

Originally posted by psycho02
How long will you be there on saturday j-glo. I too like john coach for my sons football team and we have a game tomorrow at 9:00 and then I could head that way after that. Hey Ken... I won't be there until 2:00 or so. My sons game is at noon, but at least it's a home game!! Guess I'll see you there??

Originally posted by Restricted_GT
I am going to build the building for carpet racing next season. Its a sure thing, also indoor dirt, and offroad outside as well as a dirt oval. I think there is enough racers in the area to be fun. Chad, what size building are you planning on putting up??

yup Johnny I will be there tomorrow after noon. good luck tomorrow. who do you guys play?

well I was thinking of a 100+80 but the more we think of it maybe a 100+150 steel construction is more ideal we are still in the ruff yet but one is going to be built for sure.

hey ken, umm the date ya posted for this weekend was wrong :thumbsup: 5th is on sat. hhmmmm so now what? the guys from raw roots are coming out on sun.

Originally posted by psycho02
yup Johnny I will be there tomorrow after noon. good luck tomorrow. who do you guys play? Cool!! I'm looking forward to seeing you there. I think we're playing Gull Lake. We haven't lost a game yet! But we did manage to tie one at 14 all.

Originally posted by Restricted_GT
well I was thinking of a 100+80 but the more we think of it maybe a 100+150 steel construction is more ideal we are still in the ruff yet but one is going to be built for sure. Chad, I assume this is your first venture at putting together an indoor carpet track? Do me a favor and talk to me before finalizing your plans.

Hey there chad I thought you were gonna race on Saturday which is the 5th did you change it to the 6th or decide to run sundays?



WE are still rolling along up here Johnny everyday my oldest boy is looking more and more like "meal ticket" I have already told my wife to take all the money out of the 401 k and spend it because we are gonna be set for life as soon as he graduates high school he is going to enter the draft. He is averaging about 28 yards a carry 2 tds a game and about 12 tackles. Of course he is 8 and only playing against other 8 year olds ya think I am jumping the gun. j/k.

You see thats what I said. John and chad need to get together and talk about this stuff. that was my whole intention was to get you two talking.


So john how do you like my new location?

nope I just reread the first post in (new track) and it said sunday the 5th Im geared up for sat. if the track is too wet the Ill just try to get the guys back on sun.

Well, well!! My son is 11 and he's the second string quarterback, starting outside linebacker and captian of the defense. He's managed to bring his team back to win in the last two out of three games. But in all honesty, he much prefers defense. He rather be trying to run over somebody instead of them trying to run him over!!

Didn't they start using the draft just this
year when the kid's turn 10 years old????? :)

Originally posted by psycho02
You see thats what I said. John and chad need to get together and talk about this stuff. that was my whole intention was to get you two talking.


So john how do you like my new location? Hummmmm.... well, it's big, it doesn't have any poles, the floors are very smooth and flat, plenty of parking, but the lighting sucks to say the least!!! Other than that, it'll be just fine!

yeah john when I get some plans drawn up and get close to building and stuff like that Ill go over it with you to see what ya think. Im kinda new at the ownership stuff so Ideas are welcome.

the way it is going John eventually a team rep will be there at the birth ready for you to sign him away watch and see.

And I meant MY location on here. But thanks for the scouting report on the building over there.

My son is not going to be very happy that it is not in the skating rink again he won't know where to ride his skateboard.

Sounds like garett is alot like me they wanted me to run the ball in high school and all I wanted to do was play middle linebacker.:mad:

chad I fixed that post in off-road.

Ohhhhhh..... On the carpet, my bad!! I like it, it's very appropriate!!

LOL ty. are you still planning on coming out? Im not sure how many people are going to attend cuz of the weather.

I might try and stop by but I don't think I will be able to race my wife has to work tomorrow and I don't have a baby sitter. I thought about just putting a leash on my youngest boy but the little devil will probably just eat his way through it. I am still actively seeking a babysitter though.

John why the he77 can't I see your name on the top of the onroad screen anymore are you in stealth mode?

LMAO
:roll:

Originally posted by Restricted_GT
well I was thinking of a 100+80 but the more we think of it maybe a 100+150 steel construction is more ideal we are still in the ruff yet but one is going to be built for sure.
15,000 square feet is big. that should work for two nice size tracks and ample pit spaces. Three tracks in the area. Grand Rapids, Grand Haven and Lansing all with in a hours drive, what next?

alot of fun freddy, alot of fun:thumbsup:

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Hey Andy- hows the truck look? John said ya got a little over zealous on the drivers(?) door!!!

Het Eric, the truck is pretty rough to say the least. We ran out of time and it was either drive the truck primered all winter or put a couple coats of red and a coat of clear on it and come back next spring and block sand the hell out it and put another coat of red on it and then the flames and three or 4 coats of clear on it.

I chose the 2nd option, even though it means busting my hump with the block sander in the spring b/c I just couldn't bring myself to drive a red oxide primer color truck with a flame red roof, grill, bumpers, tailgate and feder flares and $2000 wheels and tires.

I did have some fun on northbound 131 the other day with a guy who has a truck just like mine but black and no fender flares. we were going back and forth through traffic at about 90-100mph. Has anyone taken the S-curve at 95?? Wow that was fun!!! But I definately need stiffer sway bars to keep the body roll down. I unfortunatley had to let off and exit at Alpine ave but he gave me a thumbs up as I peeled off to the exit lane.

Crazy kids and your fast vehicles. :D

Originally posted by Rich Chang
Crazy kids and your fast vehicles. :D Your one to talk from what I understand!!

I don't know what you are talking about! :lol: