Originally posted by psycho02
If he went to Detroit on business you can forget about him, because he will retire before he deals with all the parolies over there.:devil: Actually, I think he met up with somebody in a van down by the river!

Ohhh well then you know he is probably in the bottom of the river by now. Which River would that be John? River Rouge maybe?

Originally posted by psycho02
Ohhh well then you know he is probably in the bottom of the river by now. Which River would that be John? River Rouge maybe? I think it was the Detroit river,
just off the death valley drive exit ramp!!

Either one works they are both on the EAST side.

Originally posted by psycho02
Either one works they are both on the EAST side. Yep, and funny how it rhymes....

East is the least, and the West is the best!!

EXACTLY:D :D :D :D :D

so john, do we have a building yet?
:D :roll: :devil:

Ummmmm yeah what he^said
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drum roll please...

Originally posted by KawadaKid
so john, do we have a building yet?
:D :roll: :devil: And if we do are you prepared to work your ever lovin carcass off??

There's plenty to do.....

* Unload the BIG yellow #24 84 passenger bus.
* Lay out all carpeting for both tracks to remove wrinkles.
* Wash all polymere borders with lacquer thinner & simple green.
* Errect & paint drivers stand.
* Sweep/mop floors where carpet is to be laid.
* Build new scoring tower.
* Wire PA/computer system, and hang all speakers.
* Assemble pit tables.
* Rewire pit tables to code.
* Concession stand.
* Build additional pit tables to replace the discarded blue ones.
* Put down all carpeting using 12" wide double sided tape.
* I could go on and on, but I don't think I need to now do I????

U Betcha! Do we have a board picked yet?:thumbsup:

Originally posted by KawadaKid
U Betcha! Do we have a board picked yet?:thumbsup: Yep, were gonna use the polymere ones from last year,
plus I plan on picking up more of it!!!!!!!!

I know, I'm a S.A. arn't I?? :p

Hey John are you still online?

Suuuuure Aaaaare john!

So who is all racing this weekend both Saturaday here in GR and Sunday in Lansing?

Originally posted by John Warner
And if we do are you prepared to work your ever lovin carcass off??

So, one could take that if as a definite maybe?

John said errect.... :dude:

Jerrod - Cory & I will be there Sat. This is the last outdoor race, right? Anything special going on? Any time/schedule changes?

Everyone got their 12th scale ready?????

Denney

John,

Ray here from Ohio. I see you are on the ROAR Region 5 list of directors!!! I have some questions for you if you have time!! COuld you give me a ring sometime?

Thanks,
Ray Huang
1-888-551-1044 toll free

Glad to here you are running this weekend Denny. This may or may not be the last weekend for this year Oct. the 19th is Riders open house thing and we are planning on running for that to but it all depends on the weather. Racing is going to start at the normal time around noon this week. Nothing special going on that I know of but that could change. Mabey we should make the nitro guys run hour mains with no marshalls. I have one 12th scale ready and my knife on the way.

Originally posted by Denney
Jerrod - Cory & I will be there Sat. This is the last outdoor race, right? Anything special going on? Any time/schedule changes?

Everyone got their 12th scale ready?????

Denney

John, does taht mean we will have a ROAR region 5 indoor champs this year?

John a ROAR director? Well, there goes ROAR. No... wait... ROAR already sucks!

Hey Psycho - no kidding around here. If you need help, I will help anyone - even Westside scum. No, really... if you need set up help or advice, I'm always happy to share info.

Hammie will freely share any info your willing to soak up... whether it's good info or not that's another question... trust me, I know, how many other people were running blue springs on the front of their tc3 at Toledo last year

And how many times did you finish above me last year? Club races at Larry's can count, too.

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and after that yuou threw the rest of that servo tape at Bud!

Even I finished ahead of Hammie. I believe on that night he just couldn't find away around the Xpress.

and then there was the night he got pissy and left!

Originally posted by John Warner
And if we do are you prepared to work your ever lovin carcass off??


Yup:thumbsup: . Just let me know when and where. Sooner we get everything up, the sooner we can throw down on this east vs. west thang......

Originally posted by Greg Anthony
John said errect.... :dude: Uhhh, I did do that didn't I?? But, it kind of reminds me of a company in Florida that's called "Casey's Tower Service" What does that have anything to do with errect???

Their motto was....... "Erection is our perfection"!

Originally posted by Motor City Hamilton
John a ROAR director? Well, there goes ROAR. No... wait... ROAR already sucks! Well, it use to! But... that's the reason I accepted the position for on-road. I'd like to see some changes made, especially in our Region5.

But, I'm only one person.

So how many of you guys are ROAR members?

Just Scrolled back a few pages and didn't see anything... Any Start date set yet? >Will it be in the rink again this year?
Thanks
Doug

I was a ROAR member from 1980 to 1990. Since then, I really didn't see what my $35 was doing for me.

i could understand if u went to alot of races that required it.

Originally posted by Motor City Hamilton
John a ROAR director? Well, there goes ROAR. No... wait... ROAR already sucks!

Wow, do you have to pay $35.00 bucks to suck or does that come with the territory?

i think its a standard feature.

Originally posted by Motor City Hamilton
I was a ROAR member from 1980 to 1990. Since then, I really didn't see what my $35 was doing for me.
I would think that you would be able to suck for free.

Okay, so everybody isn't very fond of ROAR. And this I can understand. But would not everyone agree that we need some type of governing board to structure the future of RC racing in general? Who should organize large races? Should that be left up to the clubs to decide who has state & national champ races? I mean, come on.... $35.00 a year to be a part of a sanctioning body isn't exactly a lot of money to the vast majority of us! It's less than a single stock motor.

So, before I step down off the podium, I have this to say........ Sign up, spend the 35.00 lousy dollars, and let's see if we can make Region5 what it use to be many years back. As I said before, I'm only one person and in case you haven't figured it out by now it takes many voices to make something happen! Don't we all want to compete in large races without having to drive to places like Florida???

Just having a little fun with it that all.

I guess I’ll come out of hiding since this is something that interests me.

The problem with ROAR is that it offers nothing to the racer. There are many races across the US each year that surpass any race that ROAR puts on. Just look at the Reedy Race, the Cactus Classic, the Tamiya races as a few examples. Closer to home is the US Triple Crown and the MARS series.

I would guess that no ROAR race for the past few years has had 200+ entries; the MARS series does that 5 times a year! The Cleveland race has 300+. If MARS went ROAR, it would die. Why? Because everyone would have to join ROAR to race in it and they would get nothing for their $35.00 that they don’t already get.

So until ROAR has a compelling reason for racers to join, they won’t. At this point I see nothing compelling enough to make me want to join.

Originally posted by knapster
Just having a little fun with it that all. Not a problem, and personally I can understand why everybody is making jokes of ROAR, after all, the've done a pretty good job of it themselves. BUT... in my opinion, it's our best option at this point. When and where was the last large ROAR race that was held here in Michigan??? Anybody know?

Hank,


First of all, I glad to see you finally came out of hiding. And, I couldn't agree with you more on your post, however... what rules does almost every one of those races use as a guideline?? NORRCA? ROAR? IFMAR? I'd say the vast majority follow ROAR rules as do the individual clubs. So.... ROAR must have had something right somewhere in their past, wouldn't you agree??

This is something I'd like to address to ROAR is exactly what you stated. What does the ROAR member get for his or her $35, nothing more than the Rev-Up magazine, and it's pretty much worthless!

Which reminds me.... Hank now that I know your reading this, how about you showing up to some of the CRL races this year? We could sure use the coverage!!! Bring your cameras, notepads and RC equipment and join us!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally posted by John Warner
Not a problem, and personally I can understand why everybody is making jokes of ROAR, after all, the've done a pretty good job of it themselves. BUT... in my opinion, it's our best option at this point. When and where was the last large ROAR race that was held here in Michigan??? Anybody know?
Well I personally know very little about ROAR sence I'm relatively new to the hobby. But with people like Keith thats trying to get something going in our area,
"As a long-term vision for the CRL, I would love to turn this into a series to establish national rankings. Couldn't you just see 10 regional CRLs as a means to qualify for the nationals. The top 10 from each region's points season would qualify. Host the nationals somewhere cool, along with an American LeMans Series event."
This may be one reason that ROAR will not or may no do so well in Reagon 5.

As for me, right now, I see no reason to become a ROAR member... All the racing I do, big and small, from friday nights at Larry's, saturday nights at Robbies in Bay City, to Mars, MORL, or CRL, all the way up to Triple Crown races I can drive to do not warrent another $35... Why go to a regional race, when we already have a regional series, both on and off road, and in and outdoor...

John, would you be talking about WinterChamps back in the early 90's? way before the majority of us started racing...

Ahhhhh.... WinterChamps! Now there's a familuar name to some of the "older" guy's. It started as a 1/12th scale event if memory serves me correct. And I also believe it was part of the US Triple Crown, am I correct again??

gee, that reminds me, isn't the 4th round of the Triple Crown still not set??? gee, sure would be nice to have that race somewhere in MI, I don't care were!

How can a TRIPLE crown have FOUR rounds?:confused:

actually it has 5 races... best 3 out of 5...

http://www.ustriplecrown.com/schedule.html