Saturday: Mostly cloudy skies. High 82F. Winds SW at 5 to 10 mph.

Saturday night: Rain showers in the evening with scattered thunderstorms arriving overnite. Low near 55F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of rain 50%.

Sunday: Showers and thundershowers in the morning, then mainly cloudy later on. High around 70F. Winds NNE at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of rain 40%.

Sunday (24 hours): Thunderstorms ending by midday. Highs in the low 70s and lows in the upper 30s.

Looking good for Saturday, but Sunday doesn't!

shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...;)

Sunday..... Don't worry, I'll be there "R" word or shine. Besides, I just finished painting up and mounting a new body for the broken down old hunk of crap!

Great! So i take it u will be running nitro with us cool people?

Nitro..... Cool people???? Steven! Have you taken up drinking or something???

Nooope. Is there something funny about that statement?:wave:

Originally posted by KawadaKid
Nooope. Is there something funny about that statement?:wave: Nope, nothing funny about the statement, but you however. ;)

Steven..... I'm only teasing with you, WAKE UP!!


Eric..... What, your gonna join the rest of the
group and read, but NOT post anything???

That type eh?

Yup!

C'mon E-Rock (haha, new nick name), POST!

uh oh, looks like he left us.

For those of you looking for a different place to come and play...

I talked to Larry last night over food at HOOTERS for a good while and just wanted to let everybody know what's up. As for racing, next Friday, Sept. 20th will be the season opener at the CURRENT building. Here's some info:

Sign in Closes at 7:15

Racing Starts at 7:30 SHARP


Classes:

1/12th stock
sedan stock (foam)
novice sedan (4-cell 19-turn)

any and all other classes as long as there are 4 people, such as rubber tire stk sedan, mod anything or 19turn sedan.

Give the guys at the shop a call at (586) 997-4840 if you need any more info, or would like to sign in early.


ok, now an update about the new track... Larry hopes to have it open for business and racing at the new building by the first of October. For those of you who don't know, Larry's Performance R/C's is moving to a new location on Mound Road, just north of 18 1/2 Mile Rd. on the east hand side. It's the current LogoWorks building for those of you who know the area. Now, I know this has been of some concern to some of you, the carpet. Larry informed myself, and Dave and Mac, that he will be getting genuine CRC OZITE, and that Calandra assured Larry that the carpeting that he will be getting will be from the same batch as the carpeting that is going to be used at Cleveland this year. Larry has also stated that he probably won't be glueing down this new carpet untill probably after Cleveland, possibly not until next year.

I want to find someone to car pool with to the MORL race....If you are going Call me 224-0610

Russ and I would like to thank all of you guys who came to race here today, we sure appreciate all of you making the trip & staying despite the rain. Your all a great bunch of guys! We hope you will come again.

PS: Either Dave or someone who pitted by him left 2 tires and a tool. We set it aside for you, but we will require your drivers license, credit card and your first born son in order for you to get it back!! On second thought, skip the first born son...
You can lay claim to them and email me at rjohnson@lni.net with your mailing address & I will send them to you.
Thanks again!!
-Russ & Leslie:wave:

Wooo Hooo! Go GS! lol, Finaly got the good old vision in the winners circle. I know Fred would have been right there with me too. Stupid Belts!:thumbsup:

Stop it keith, just stop it. I am still laughing from the above post.
It took me a while to post because I had to get myself 2gether!!!! Classic man, Classic! Vintage Hamilton there folks!!!:D :D :D :thumbsup:

Hey, John buddy, hehehe I still owe you one.. I think a 7x2 geared like a stockm with a Buds bumped mounted on the top of the shock tower will make due:lol: just remember, watch your back, I'll be there, lurking... I'll be there...

Nice Racing on Sat Steven!

Although I think you biggest competition had some tough luck. (That blue and red car w/ the high spoiler...who was that?) I saw you guys running in practice and he was right beside you. ;) What was wrong with that thing? keept doing doughnuts every time it exited a corner!:confused:

And who was driving that blue one that keept flying off the track out of the straight away!?!?:lol:

Thanks again, Steven for answering my questions! It really helped.



The guy working at Ryders said I should get a Traxxas Nitro 4-Tec.....You know something?....I hate that car!:mad: The body stinks and I have heard horrors about the EZ start.


So, against all odds, Im going with a HPI RS4 2. Not your top of the line racer but it will work for me.

Did anyone have one there on Sat.? (I dont think I saw one)

Unfortunatly you wont see me on the track untill next year....

Go Detroit Lions! Care for a Detroit Lions Vs. the East Grand Rapids High School Eagles, grudge match?

But! We are still gonna school ya on the carpet.

do I smell rug burning.. oops, that was DJ last year at Toledo.. nevermind

Detroit Lions vs East Grand Rapids High School , that doesn’t sound fair but what do I know, I went to Wyoming Park. :rolleyes:

Hey PinWheel, I bought a Nitro 4-Tec, out of the box it was not impressive, I changed the gear ratio to the smallest one and removed the exhaust baffle and I can't believe the almost uncontrollable power this thing has, I can do donuts all day on asphalt, on the straight away if I gun it, it will get squirmy from all 4 tires spinning, the acceleration is uncontrollable at WOT.

Also the electric start was over greased on many of the early production N4-Tec's causing the electric start to stop working, it is no longer a problem and I have never had a problem with it...it is VERY convenient and reliable.

Jerrit :wave:

Another down side to the 4-Tec is it only comes RTR right? I wanted to build mine...

Haha, that Blue Car was our own Pete (pedro) Gamagio (jamamajo).

Originally posted by KawadaKid
Wooo Hooo! Go GS! lol, Finaly got the good old vision in the winners circle. I know Fred would have been right there with me too. Stupid Belts!:thumbsup:

So I take it that the turnout saturday was pretty low....:devil:

Eastern Michigan
- Joe Louis Arena
- Greenfield Village
- Pine Knob
- Comerica Park
- Ford Field
- Aliya, Aretha, Unkle Cracker, Kid Rock
- Woodward Dream Cruise
- Fastest R/C racers in Michigan

Western Michigan
- AJ's Family Fun Center
- Alma Highland Festival
- The Bob (as in Gay Bob???)
- Birdie's Snow Sports
- Co Hooker Charter Service
- Dog n' Suds Drive In
- The second tier of R/C racers in Michigan

Man... how many hits can I throw at ya' before Jonny chimes in???

Which car is more compeditive stock? (Or as close to stock as you can get.)

Traxxas Nitro 4-Tec

HPI RS4 2 kit

Or

The

OFNA OB4 (this one is streching it...I would have to be used. And I dont think Ryders has a lot of parts for it.)

Mainly I am looking at the first two...the OB4 is just hovering in the back of my mind....:cry:

Dont start with Dog n' Suds...Montague is my hometown.

Originally posted by Motor City Hamilton
Eastern Michigan
- Joe Louis Arena
- Greenfield Village
- Pine Knob
- Comerica Park
- Ford Field
- Aliya, Aretha, Unkle Cracker, Kid Rock
- Woodward Dream Cruise
- Fastest R/C racers in Michigan

Western Michigan
- AJ's Family Fun Center
- Alma Highland Festival
- The Bob (as in Gay Bob???)
- Birdie's Snow Sports
- Co Hooker Charter Service
- Dog n' Suds Drive In
- The second tier of R/C racers in Michigan

Man... how many hits can I throw at ya' before Jonny chimes in???

PinWheel, I think the 4-Tec is more competitive stock if for nothing else than it comes "stock" with a 2-speed tranny and does 51mph out of the box, the RS4 2 does not have a 2-speed stock, it is an optional upgrade.
With the 2-speed though the RS4 is the better car, for more money of course.

Jerrit :wave:

Ha...Ha Ha...funny one Bill:rolleyes:

The 4-tech claims 51 mph out of the box but i think thats just a claim. I have never seen one go that fast. I dont recomend the 4-tech over the rs4, but i do recomend the NTC3 over the rs4.

Nope, not just a claim, I've seen it get clocked by radar.
I raced mine against a friend driving a car....50mph bone stock.
After proper engine break in of course.
I saw a bone stock Duratrax Street Force GP RTR do 51.7mph out of the box and it costs less than the N4-Tec.
With a 2-speed it's easy to do.

Jerrit :wave:

Just b/c one car is faster than the other doesn't make it any better. So what if one car has a two speed and the other doesn't. I would still reccomend the RS4 over the Duratrax or Traxxas for a starter. Why you ask??? B/c it's a better car, plain and simple. Besides our track really doesn't require you to have a two speed. In fact if you've noticed the guys that are always the fastest only get their car into 2nd gear for the last part of the straight and nowhere else. Did you know Cliff Lett holds the current world's record for the fastest 4wd electric sedan and pan car? His ELECTRIC TC3 went 94mph and his ELECTRIC L3O went almost 112mph, but he had to go to a half mile oval that full size cars use. So, just b/c your car is faster than mine doesn't mean you'll win the race, b/c slower is faster.

Alright Phat Dakota, take it easy there buddy, if you read my post thoroughly you will see me say the RS4 is a better car.
But the 4-Tec can be made faster for less money.
If money was no object we'd probably all be driving Serpent Vector NT's.
Your right about most cars barely getting into 2nd gear on the straight, but that's because they are geared wrong.

Fact:

Out of the box my 2-speed Nitro 4-Tec has slower acceleration than a single speed Nitro RS4 but a higher top speed, but that top speed is not useable on most racetracks.

However, when I regeared my 4-Tec the top speed (51mph) reduced to 46mph but the acceleration is just plain amazing and nearly uncontrollable. :devil:
2nd gear hits very fast, before I'm even half way down our 100ft straight at my track.
I hit 46mph about 3/4ths of the way down the straight, just in time to brake HARD for the turn, which is where I usually screw up and should learn a lesson from you, slower is often faster . :D

Jerrit :wave:

Besides, do think a beginer driver should be driving something that fast? sure its nice to be able to say "my car goes 50" but its not necessary. Technicaly my car could do a hundred, i would need some serious $$$ for mods so i could put a .21 in it, BUT IT COULD DO IT!

A two speed is just one more aspect to confuse a newbie. a Single Speed RS4 or a nitro TC3 would be his best bet just due to quality and parts availability.

Man! I can't wait to get back into Nitro.

And Offroad.

And Oval.

And anything else I can think of...

:devil: :devil: :devil:

What? How you doing all that?

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Man! I can't wait to get back into Nitro.

And Offroad.

And Oval.

And anything else I can think of...

:devil: :devil: :devil:

Magic.

Ancient Chinese Proverb- Good things come to those who wait. I'll just say all my problems will soon be a thing of the past...;) :devil:

like i said, ...Magic.

Oh ye of little faith. Think back to what happened at the end of April. Who's negligence caused it? What have I had in the works since? Wait for it... If you know and remember, don't put it on here...:devil:

What was the lucky number on that fortune cookie?

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Ancient Chinese Proverb- Good things come to those who wait. I'll just say all my problems will soon be a thing of the past...;) :devil:

Not a drop of magic involved.:devil:

I see Johnny Boy has joined our little party.

Johnny Boy, your IM is ringing!

Touring Car Nitro - Foam Tire
7 Steven Stewart - GS Vision
3 Tom Gilhoran - NTC3
4 Brian Jackson - Reflex
6 Tony Raison - NTC3
2 John Warner - NTC3
1 Fred Knapp (TQ)- Reflex
5 Dave Walton - Mugen MTX2

Steven, what was your fastest single lap of the day?

2002 MORL Final Standings

Below are the final standings for the 2002 MORL Series.

Congratulations to everyone and thank you for your participation.

I will be checking out the money situation (I only broke even at the MORL Canton and MORL Ann Arbor races since the race fees were so low) and get a trophy quote so that I can see what I can do for trophies (ie: I want to have top 10 trophies for Stock TC Any Tire since that was the largest class overall). I'll let folks know what the 'deal' is once I know what it is. There will be at least top 3 trophies for each class.

Only the following classes will be getting trophies:
Touring Stock - Any Tire
Touring Stock - Spec Tire
Truck/Buggy Stock
Truck/Buggy Mod/Nitro
Touring Nitro - Spec Tire
Touring Nitro - Foam Tire

Again, the points trophies will most likely be handed out at the first CRL race.

-Rich

Touring Stock - Any Tire
1 Greg Anthony 492
2 Dave Johnson 381
3 Jeff Cook 363
4 David Woellper 338
5 Carlos Perez 325
6 Mac Keith 323
7 Dan Burnham 308
8 Shawn Ebeler 304
9 Geno Morin 299
10 PDP 290
11 Mark Adams 261
12 Barry Z 247
13 Derek Manchester 247
14 Bobby Flack 242
15 Eric Kelly 225
16 Phil Borges 216
17 Ray Juhl 190
18 Brett Taylor 189
19 Basil Johari 183
20 Frank Johnson 178
21 Frank Fontaine 174
22 Barb Bury 170
23 Tim Bruno 169
24 Nora Morin 156
25 Chris Diamond 155
26 Jim Rousseau Sr. 133
27 Walter Henderson 124
28 Willie Thomas 124
29 Tim Stamper 121
30 Chico Alvarado 120
31 Brian Bowen 117
32 Chuck Hartmeyer 116
33 Russ Raden 114
34 Brian Anthony 113
35 Jim Rousseau Jr. 113
36 Randy B 110
37 Raisin 106
38 Wayne Smith 106
39 Brian Thomas 104
40 Dominic Pellegrini 103
41 Rick Monahan 102
42 David Smith 100
43 Kevin Smith 99
44 Dave Manchester 98
45 Ron Viney 97
46 Eric Cook 96
47 Ken Douglas 95
48 Al Yarmack 94
49 Doug Tafel 93
50 Eric McKay 93
51 Jon Ferman 93
52 Butch Beebe 92
53 Jimmy Holstein 92
54 DaRoy Freeman 91
55 AJ Warner 90
56 Orea Noyes 90
57 Brandy Elston 89
58 Odus Christian 89
59 TJ McKay 89
60 Tom McKay 89
61 JD Becker 88
62 Kenny Martz 87
63 Sean Hansel 87
64 Shane Praay 87
65 Jon McGeorge 85
66 Shawn Chounard 84
67 Cecil Picardal 82
68 Ryan Blanchard 82
69 JW 78
70 Richard Byrd 74
71 Garrett Warner 68
72 Ron Blanchard 68

Touring 19-turn - Foam Tire
1 Tim Stamper 203
2 Ted Flack 117
3 Andrew Murany 113
4 Jason Harp 112
5 Jeff Cook 112
6 Kevin Marcy 108
7 Nick Bol 108
8 Willie Thomas 104
9 Jason Mietelka 104
10 Bill Wood 101
11 Shawn Deron 100
12 Rick Bol 97
13 Paul Ruszkowski 95
14 Brett Taylor 93
15 Steve Sewell 90
16 Nick Johnson 90
17 Mike Kingsley 87
18 Odus Christian 85

Touring Stock - Spec Tire
1 Greg Anthony 416
2 Andrew Murany 318
3 Dan Burnham 296
4 Jerrod Glover 287
5 Dave Johnson 211
6 Ken Bates 208
7 Raisin 203
8 Ray Juhl 199
9 Geno Morin 198
10 Derek Manchester 109
11 Mac Keith 105
12 Fred Baumgartner 103
13 Phil Borges 101
14 Frank Fontaine 97
15 Doug Tafel 96
16 Jim Packard 94
17 Ron Blanchard 90

Truck/Buggy Stock Good job Dave Woellper!!
1 David Woellper 425
2 Butch Beebe 410
3 Dan Burnham 307
4 Bob Cates 300
5 Carlos Perez 203
6 Mike Pellegrini 104
7 Nora Morin 102
8 Dominic Pellegrini 99
9 Lauren Wood 99
10 Nick Hyman 98
11 Douglas Adkins 96
12 Marinna Praay 96

Truck/Buggy Mod/Nitro
1 Bob Cates 308
2 Dominic Pellegrini 306
3 Mike Pellegrini 295
4 Butch Beebe 207
5 Richard Byrd 100
6 Tim Bruno 99
7 Damon Rice 99

Touring Nitro - Spec Tire Aaron beat Rich... whoooohooooo!
1 Aaron Bomia 452
2 Rich Chang 440
3 Fred Baumgartner 431
4 Ken Bates 403
5 Shawn Ebeler 309
6 Carlos Perez 305
7 Steven Stewart 288
8 Chuck Hartmeyer 209
9 Derek Manchester 207
10 Jesse Beeker 207
11 JD Becker 199
12 Vaughn White 196
13 Jerrod Glover 192
14 Joe Mininni 120
15 Russ Raden 118
16 Dennis King 117
17 Barry Z 115
18 Ted Flack 113
19 Maurice Davis 105
20 Brian Klein 95
21 Chuck Collins 95
22 Walt Henderson 95
23 Jason Becker 94
24 Pat Hough 93

Touring Nitro - Foam Tire Way to go Fred!!!!
1 Fred Knapp 413
2 John Warner 409
3 Brian Jackson 393
4 Tony Raison 378
5 Dave Walton 370
6 Mike Vasilion 305
7 Tom Gilhoran 289
8 Nick Terwilliger 287
9 Josh Cyrul 222
10 Jay Mowl 222
11 Walt Henderson 221
12 Steven Stewart 204
13 Bobby Flack 204
14 Pete Helmer 201
15 Damon Converse 115
16 Aaron Bomia 114
17 Ted Flack 112
18 Barry Z 107
19 Tim Brink 107
20 Mike Slaughter 107
21 Fred Baumgartner 105
22 Tom Heys 103
23 Rosie Maze 90
24 Steve McGeorge 88
25 Robert Gardner 86

Wait a minute...I said compeditive remember?:) Not fastest. I know which one is fastest.

The 4-Tec probably could go 50 er 60 or whatever! But if it takes a 1/4 of a mile to get there it does me no good.

So we are back to the original opinion. THE 4-TEC looks horrible...so lets go with a RS4

Now for another question.

I have an electric Tamyia Lunch Box (wow thats an old one 1987!)
Any way it has a machanical speed control. I wanted to take the servos (They are newer than '87;) ) and put them on a Nitro when i get it.

I just got the gears all greased up and put in a new battery (that I got on Sat.) THE THING WAS FAST (at least faster than before)

The problem is the servo keept freezing and the car wouldnt stop. I broke 2 body posts and cracked the body all on one battery...3 different crashes.:(


My Radio batts were at about 50% so maybe that had something to do with it...it also sticks when the battery is low (but not nearly dead)

If I stick that thing in a nitro im going to kill someone! What can I do?

U know Greg, im not sure.

Great Job Dave. Did u take every race?