It looks like Sparta Sheet Metal is where a good place to get some prices on the sheet metal we need will be. I'm going to be really swamped here at work this week since I'm leaving for vacation on thursday. If someone wants to give them a call their # is 616-784-9035. We need something along the lines of 22ga. or 24ga. sheet metal, either 4' or 8' wide. Id on't know how much we need in length so just get a square foot price or something. I was thinking of the masonite as well, but just wanted to get some comaprative prices on different things.

Originally posted by knapster
Wow, that was different. Lazer was a blast, with there unique set up, long and narrow lanes it takes some getting use to. I love that car ramp, what a kewl deal that is. For the nitro guys, that hard charging driving stile don't work there. Its all about rhythm and smooth driving lines, slower is faster at Lazer. I'm glad I went.

Glad ya' had a good time! See ya on the 15th.:wave:

Yo J-rock, how are the tools looking?

Originally posted by KawadaKid
Yo J-rock, how are the tools looking? Tools?... which one of his tools are you in referance to??? Either way, I'm sure their or it's rusty!!!

Actualy most of them are ok I guess the motor spray works to ward off rust.

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Time to get back to work people,
indoor season is rapidly approaching
and we need input from everyone. What
changes or additions does everybody want?

I.e.: 4 cell pan stock or 19 turn??
Or should we stay with 6 cell stock??

Speak up, it's now or never????

John

Originally posted by John Warner

Time to get back to work people,
indoor season is rapidly approaching
and we need input from everyone. What
changes or additions does everybody want?

John

Ummm Where is the indoor track going to be????

:confused:

1. Don't switch to 19T as stock. As a beginner, 27T is more then enough to deal with, if you throw 19T at them, you may lose a lot of your stock people, and the beginners as well.

2. As far as what classes to run (ie: 1/12, pan, 4-cell...etc)I don't care, as long as you keep indoor stadium :D

3. I think there needs to be some set rules for marshalling. Say for example, you have numbered cones around the track, and depending on your finish place in the heat is what cone you take, with the winner being the one to run the computer for the race instead of marshalling. This assures that we have everyone marshalling, and gets different people on the mike so that one person isn't stuck doing it the whole time.

Well here's my $.02 worth

I think as far as the oval is concerned, I don't think that the 4 cell thing would take off. Granted it would even out the playing field a great deal. I remember Butch telling me that simply running 3000 HV's would drop lap times by .1 seconds/lap. May not seem like a lot but a lap only takes 4 seconds, and in 4 minutes time that's equal to a lap and a half extra.

19T may be an option for them (oval), I guess it depends on what they would like.

Marshalling is definately something to improve on. Could just do it like in the MARS Series. Use numbered cones that coordinate with your car number. You don't marshal, your best qualifying time is dropped, simple as that. And if you need someone to volunteer tell the announcer right after your race, no big deal.

I think the computer thing could be easily resolved without too much fuss. I don't plan on running any oval or sedan this winter so I could take over the majority of that stuff and just asking for help from any number of people that know how to run the cpu when I need a brake for a little bit. And as far as stadium goes why not try a rotating crew for the mic. Could have 3 or 4 individuals, myself included, to run the computer for only a couples races at a time and then switch. Say there are 9 races, I do three, someone else does three, then the next person does three and then back o me.

And as far as stadium, yes it definatley will be alive this winter and the best it has ever been. With bigger and better jumps that are friendly to all cars, not just trucks.

I think all these things can be ironed out in a meeting just after we figure out where we will be located at, like we did last winter. Have everyone come out and see where were at, help un-load the bus and orgainze everything and gather info from everyone as what they would like to see from the club this winter.

Sorry to babble on like that, probably bumped it up to my $2 worth on that one, but I think it's worth it.

Gotta agree with everyone else here on the marshalling thang. I'm thinking that we need to have driver's meetings before the start of racing. Seems that alot of racers have forgotten most of what they should already know.

I'm also thinking that we need to have an on-road and a stadium points series. I enjoy racing as much as the next guy, but it's kinda nice to have something to show for it every now and then. I know the local autocross group gives out miniature orange cones with the drivers class on it. Not much, but something to help justify all the $$ we spend on this.

And speaking of money, is there any way that we as a group can get a deal with any tyre or motor maker? I know both are the biggest cost in racing and has tended to scare some people away in the past. Perhaps if we ran a controlled tyre that we could get inexpensively, it may help to bring some racers back.

And while I'm dreaming, Dorthy, I'd like to have Pony rides, too! Little pink ponies. Everyone loves pony rides. Ah, Hmmmm. Looks like the meds are wearing off. Gotta go.

Hey John, are we having a CRL race this winter??? if so you might want to see this on the CRL thread:


Feedback Requested

1.) Best 3 of 5 this year. Only need to run 3 races to qualify for points trophies. Run mid-October, early to mid-November (avoid Cleveland), December, January and February.

2.) Limit the classes to just four (1/18th, 12th scale stock, touring stock and touring 19-turn).

3.) Try to schedule CRL on an off-day from the normal club days. Most clubs ran Sunday, so CRL could move to Saturday. This way we don't draw people away from their home club once a month. Some of those clubs need their racers every week, just to keep the doors open.

4.) No handout motors. We had discussed moving to handouts in 2002/2003. How do you feel about it? Need lots of feedback, here.

5.) Rules for 1/18th. Thinking about a battery type and motor size/type rule and allowing any chassis (Buds, Reilly, etc.). Make a length/width/wheelbase rule, to keep the scale correct. Again, lots of feedback needed, here.

6.) Season end banquet or season end fun race with prizes. I would rather spend money on race prizes than food for an awards banquet. How do you feel about it?

7.) Anything else that you can think of.



#3 bothers me, we can't do a Saturday race B/C of oval and stadium!!!

1.) Best 3 of 5 this year. Only need to run 3 races to qualify for points trophies. Run mid-October, early to mid-November (avoid Cleveland), December, January and February.

I like the sounds of that. Gives everyone an equal chance at a good score, even if they can't make every race. And for those that can, it gives them the chance to have the best possible score for them.

2.) Limit the classes to just four (1/18th, 12th scale stock, touring stock and touring 19-turn).

I guess that works. I'm not too sure about the 1/18th class, but thats just me. Are they going to have any stipulations on foam or rubber tyres in the other classes?

3.) Try to schedule CRL on an off-day from the normal club days. Most clubs ran Sunday, so CRL could move to Saturday. This way we don't draw people away from their home club once a month. Some of those clubs need their racers every week, just to keep the doors open.

What about those tracks that run on both days?

4.) No handout motors. We had discussed moving to handouts in 2002/2003.

I agree with the no handout rule. It's nice to be able to control motors, but it just drives the racer's fees up as well. Besides, who really needs another stocker? Everyones got one; might as well use them.

5.) Rules for 1/18th. Thinking about a battery type and motor size/type rule and allowing any chassis (Buds, Reilly, etc.). Make a length/width/wheelbase rule, to keep the scale correct.

I guess here you'd have to go with 4WD or 2WD only. How else are you gonna organize these little buggers. And as for which parts are allowed, good luck. So many parts for such a little car. If only manufacturers spent as much time on 1/12th scales.

6.) Season end banquet or season end fun race with prizes. I would rather spend money on race prizes than food for an awards banquet. How do you feel about it?

Prizes. Everyone loves prizes. And whats West Michigan's favorite four-letter F word? FREE!

7.) Anything else that you can think of.

Pony Rides. Everyone loves Pony Rides!

Originally posted by Phat Dakota
Hey John, are we having a CRL race this winter??? Yes we will be. I posted it a couple of pages back, guess you must have missed it.

Keep the input coming, don't stop now!!

What if we change and run oval on sunday and Touring car on Saturaday?

Originally posted by nitrorod
What if we change and run oval on sunday and Touring car on Saturaday? As in on a permanent basis?? I don't know about that one!! You might really ruffle up some feathers with that question. It's been run like this for as many years as I can remember.

Racers????

Touring and Truck on Saturday and Oval on Sunday. Sounds reasonable to me.

MY biggest concern is that with the larger crowds attending the On-Road racing, would we be done early enough to start Stadium racing and finish before two O'clock in the morning????

Well someone has to ruffle them....I found some insperation for our web site here: http://www.thedirtracing.com/


Originally posted by John Warner
As in on a permanent basis?? I don't know about that one!! You might really ruffle up some feathers with that question. It's been run like this for as many years as I can remember.

Racers????

Originally posted by nitrorod
Well someone has to ruffle them....I found some insperation for our web site here: http://www.thedirtracing.com/ For the website???? WooooooHoooooo!!!!!

Probably not for the CRL race, but the rest of the season should be fine. Anyway when you ran trucks/Oval on Saturdays alot of times we locked the pace up at 1:00 - 2:00 in the morning.

Originally posted by knapster
Probably not for the CRL race, but the rest of the season should be fine. Anyway when you ran trucks/Oval on Saturdays alot of times we locked the pace up at 1:00 - 2:00 in the morning. Oh boy, I just can't wait to do that again this year!! Driving an hour to get home at 3:00, and back up again at 8:00 to be back at the track by 10:00. Yeah, I just can't wait!!

You forgot about just sleeping at the track.


Originally posted by John Warner
Oh boy, I just can't wait to do that again this year!! Driving an hour to get home at 3:00, and back up again at 8:00 to be back at the track by 10:00. Yeah, I just can't wait!!

what about cleveland warm ups theres no way we can get that in on a sat.pluse it make more cents to run oval with a nother race du to how big it is

Originally posted by nitrorod
You forgot about just sleeping at the track.Maybe that's the solution.... Get a building with an attached apartment!!

Yeah, that's it exactly.... what Wally said!!

john the game is at 7 right

Yeah me too.


Originally posted by John Warner
Yeah, that's it exactly.... what Wally said!!

5:30 for all that did not come to practice.

Originally posted by Wally World
john the game is at 7 right

I agree keep the oval and stadium on saturday and the on-road on sunday. You know those oval guys are not going to want to race on a sunday because they will miss any nascar race that will be on and I believe nascar runs until early november. So far everything I have heard sounds pretty good so far. I can't wait lets go. And oh by the way WILL SOMEONE GET BILL A FREAKIN PONY TO RIDE.:eek: :devil: :D ::thumbsup:

Ken you running with us this weekend?

I am looking at the hesperia night race for saturday.

Originally posted by psycho02
WILL SOMEONE GET BILL A FREAKIN PONY TO RIDE.Is it the pony or a Hooters girl he wants???

You could race with us during the day then go up there for the night race.

That reminds me...... Our LAST NIGHT RACE of this season will be NEXT weekend, NOT this weekend!!!!

Be there or be square!

I will be racing there next week, this weekend I have some things to do early on saturday. Besides it is still summer out and that is dirt season. :thumbsup:

Originally posted by John Warner
Is it the pony or a Hooters girl he wants???

Heh heh... it's a good thing this is a family site. There's too many places I can take that one.... :devil:

Originally posted by knapster
Wow, that was different. Lazer was a blast, with there unique set up, long and narrow lanes it takes some getting use to. I love that car ramp, what a kewl deal that is. For the nitro guys, that hard charging driving stile don't work there. Its all about rhythm and smooth driving lines, slower is faster at Lazer. I'm glad I went.

Fred, I just wanted to clarify that the layout you ran on Sunday is NOT the layout for the MORL race. Russ is changing it now, it will be a much faster with wider lanes so you may have to change your driving style yet again:) We are closed this Sunday (1st) and reopen for a warm up race on 9/8.

I agree with all u who say to keep oval and stadium on saturday. If it aint broke, dont fix it. Right?

Originally posted by Lazer Lady


Fred, I just wanted to clarify that the layout you ran on Sunday is NOT the layout for the MORL race. Russ is changing it now, it will be a much faster with wider lanes so you may have to change your driving style yet again:) We are closed this Sunday (1st) and reopen for a warm up race on 9/8.
Thanks Lazer Lady, One thing is for sure, what ever the layout ends up to be, it will be fun.

I got some medial Pros now. I might be able to keep up with the foam guys. If not i got fioronis too, with cool new rims!

HI:wave:

Can I join this thread? I live in Jenison. Anyone else?

Are there any races comming up (not this weekend but the next)

My friend and I have been into R/C for a while but now we want to get Nitro On-roads to race. We want to meet some people.

I've got a brand new, fully hopped up Serpent Impulse 1/10th nitro touring car for sale. It even has spare parts. Let me know if you are interested -- rpchang@pobox.com. It does not come with a motor, manifold, or pipe.

-Rich

PinWheel,
Yeah you and anyone eles can join in. We race every Saturaday in the parking lot out in front of Riders on 28th st. Next weekend is our last night race, which is free for anyone that races durring the day. Hope to see you there.

Pitiful, that's all I can say. Whoever that guy is playing left field sucks! He dropped everything that came his way and missed the ones he dove for. The only thing that saved him was that throw to third base to stop the runner. Oh wait, that was me! Man I can't believe how bad it was yesterday. 0-3 at the plate and three errors in the outfield. The only thing I'm really po'd about is the fact I can never get a good pitch to hit. It's really sad that the three times I was up to bat I only had one pitch that was a strike.

Thats because leftys suck....


Originally posted by Phat Dakota
Pitiful, that's all I can say. Whoever that guy is playing left field sucks! He dropped everything that came his way and missed the ones he dove for. The only thing that saved him was that throw to third base to stop the runner. Oh wait, that was me! Man I can't believe how bad it was yesterday. 0-3 at the plate and three errors in the outfield. The only thing I'm really po'd about is the fact I can never get a good pitch to hit. It's really sad that the three times I was up to bat I only had one pitch that was a strike.

Andy check this out: link (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94712)

You said night race next weekend? Is that Aug 31 or Sept 6? Anybody else know where I could find some used cars to compare pricing? (Im not really ready to buy yet)

What should I be looking for in a Racing car

Originally posted by PinWheel
You said night race next weekend? Is that Aug 31 or Sept 6?


John it's the 7th right????

Originally posted by nitrorod
Andy check this out: link (http://www.radiocontrolzone.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=94712)

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Originally posted by Rainn2378


John it's the 7th right????