Hey John,

Any way to run the stadium race in the morning/day and have the CRL club race in the evening? We have a number of racers traveling up to 3 or 4 hours. It's totally up to you and your guys. Just a thought.

Also, hotel suggestions???

Well I Dont know about the changing of stadium to the day but as far as hotels there are alot of them. Look for one on 28th street so you dont have far to go. West of the track there is a Howard Johnson, and a Ramada within 3 miles. To the east there is just about everything eles. By the way Hooters is to the east of the track about 5 miles.

Hi John,

Cool. Guess I'll be there. I made some changes to my car so I need to see whether they suck or not before the big CRL race. heh!

I'd kinda prefer to just have practice. I'd still be willing to pay, but I'd rather just have practice.

-Rich


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Rich, sir.....

Well, it looks like the votes are in... YES there WILL BE practice Saturday during the day. Doors will open at 8:30, and we'll shut down around 4:00-4:30 so that our Stadium racing can be run and started at their normal time.

I'm assuming we'll do the same as the Hub did? Two or three heats and a main???? You racers will have to let me know what your preference's are.


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A note/suggestion to all Grand Rapidsians (Grand Rapizoids? El Grande Rapidos?). Since the saturday oval race is apparently cancelled this weekend, why not come over to Mt. Pleasant on saturday for Jon's race? The track opens at 10:00 with racing starting at noon.

Hope to see you there,
Kevin Marcy

So what’s the deal, is there an oval race on Saturday or not?

Why not cancel the stadium race in the afternoon and let the oval guys run in their normal time slot! (I know, there are more stadium guys than oval guys.)

A couple a weeks ago the oval guys got shuffled out early for the stadium guys. Now were getting moved again. I think a lot of the oval guys have paid club member dues also and it seems were the ones who traditionally get moved. Lets be fair and move the stadium guys this time. Or just leave the schedule alone and forget having a special practice day for non-members.

In the future it would be nice to post that the CRL race is going to be a two-day deal. Or better yet update the GLR web page and schedule.

I guess it’s off to Indiana this weekend.

Sorry about the negative post, but I think I’m just in a bad mood because my Turbo 30 died and I had to send it in for repair.

Ballblazer - hmm.. can definitely understand your frustration. For the CRL race, all the previous tracks we've had the race at all don't have Saturday races. So, we got used to having at least a practice day on Saturdays -- especially since we had a lot of folks coming from Indiana and Ohio. It allowed them to travel up on Saturday, get some practice in, and race on Sunday.

For the Grand Rapids race, pretty much everyone not in Grand Rapids forgot you guys have a track that is pretty much open 7 days a week and races on both Saturday and Sunday. Wish we had that set up. :-)

So, the request was made to have a practice on Saturday. We didn't realize there was racing in the morning and the afternoon.

So, the CRL race really isn't a two day event, it just turned out to be that way where it ended up having a practice/warm-up race on Saturdays.

We're sorry it is displacing the oval race.

I don't have a problem with others requesting use of the track on Saturday for practice.

I'm disappointed that the oval guys get displaced with very little warning. It's a mater of courtesy and letting people know ahead of time.

Luckily I do have other places to race at, but I like GR because there is more competition. It's disappointing we get little warning. Actually at this time I have not received or seen any official notification YET from the club!

Vince.....

Oval racing's schedule has not changed. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't beleive that it was posted anywhere that it was.

Yes, we're having practice for Sunday's race as well.

That's the reason many of us will be at the club every night this week. (we're doing that so we can try and please everyone)That's also the reason we ordered new Calandra Ozite. There will be two seperate tracks thruout the remainder of our indoor season.

John

Please don't be mad at John or anyone else afiliated witht he big race this comming weekend. I personnaly was the one who said that the oval race was postponed this weekend, not anyone else. If you want to yell at someone yell at me. Oval racing WILL BE RUNNING this weekend, so if no is there for it I know it's my fault. And any badmouthing or negative posts should be directed MY way not to John or anyone else.

Andy Curran

John - you need to move to Ann Arbor!! http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

Man, that is sweet! Two tracks and racing at the same time!!!

-Rich

Thanks for the info John. Wasn't aware the other track was being set up. As usual you set a higher bar than most. All I can say is it must be that time of the month for me.

Two more days! I'll be heading to GR tonight, so if anyone needs Carpet Racing league information, I can be reached on my cell at 810-610-6050.

Keith

Hows $250 sound plus that amp john?

Stoked fer this weekend....cant wait.

I would just like to thank the Warners and the Knapps, without them we probably wouldnt have our great facility. Im looking forward to a good show John.

I just wanted to jump in and say a big 'ole thanx to everyone at Great Lakes. It's really nice to have two tracks set up and the same time. Very nice.

And thanx to everyone that got the whole thing put together.

Guess I'm gonna have to take back all that stuff I said about Bad Andy! Well, most of it at least........

later.............

John and the GLRC folks - thanks for a great race weekend! The CRL race was great and pretty much went off w/o a hitch!

Keith did a great job, too with organizing and trying to make all the racers happy.

-Rich

Hey KawadaKid, what am I chump change? From 6pm Friday night until I left last night at 9pm I was at the track for over 40 hours this weekend. And don't forget about Jerrod either.


DaRoot'e'yeah- Don't take back everything, I don't want to look too much like a nice guy, haha.

I also wanted to thank everyone that came out for the race this weekend, it was a blast!

I think that we should all thank everyone that helps keep this thing going. Now that I see what it takes to hold a "big" race I cant imagine what it takes to put on a realy big one like the Snowbirds. See you all on tusday.

Once again the Trinity site is being stupid so, who one? Who had the hardest hit in the Bud's class? The world wants to know.

I know I thanked most of you personally, yesterday, but thanks again to the Great Lakes Racers Club for hosting a great event.
Winners - Dave Johnson-touring stock, Rich Chang-1/12th stock and Fred Baumgartner-Buds. I don't have the paperwork with me, so I'm not sure about 19 turn and sportsman classes. Congrats to all the trophy winner - even those of you who beat me.

Toledo is the next Carpet Racing League stop on March 3. Also, I look forward to next year's Grand Rapids CRL race (October?).

Yeah well, no offence, but no i was at the track just about every night last week, and did alot of work when u werent there. I didnt really apreciate the crap i got from u and the other guys when i had to leave friday. and, by the time i wrote that post, i was not aware of your work. Sorry.

John, You have mail

Thanks

Rick Russell in Oregon

Great Job CLRC,
To all of you who worked hard and helped in any way, Thank you. It takes may hands to put together and pull off an event of this
magnitude.

Moe

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Hey NitroRod- saw your post on the "other" board. Aint it great the way he dodges the questions. "Waiting for final approval"- please... He has no track yet, thats why he wont give ANY locations. As a racer wouldn't you like to know what kind of surface it is? How dirty or dusty does it get? Will there be power available? He wont answer these because even HE doesn't know... If he see's this- I welcome him to prove me wrong by posting locations instead of saying "e-mail me".

Is there any set schedule for outdoor racing made up yet? Location, Track surface, Times? And will you all be using transponders, will power be available?

C-dan....

We'll be running once again this year at the same location as we have been in the past several years. It's across from our current location directly in front of Rider's Hobby Shop.

We hope to have our newly paved asphalt surface completed within the next 30-45 days.

We're also looking into using the VHT traction additive instead of soda.

Whether we use it or not depends on the cost factor.

YES, we'll be using transponder scoring, and as a matter of fact, we'll also have the AMBrc system up and running here very shortly. Many of our racers have already picked up their personal transponders this past weekend.

John

C-dan...

Almost forgot to answer ALL of your questions http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif

We'll be running each and every Saturday (wheather permitting of course) starting at 9:30, first heat starts at noon. Three heats and the main for every class.

Power will be available as always, and I believe we're also going to have plenty of folding pit tables available as well. A spacious drivers stand will also be provided.

We'll be running..... Nitro & Electric sedans, trucks and Pan cars on the Oval!

Oh, and don't miss our "Night Racing" under the lights! Last year we only held one night race, this year we'll hold more of those.

it's time to cast your votes for an outdoor off-road dirt track, anybody interested?????

John

Hey Johnny boy!!! You forgot to say that the outdoor schedule is the same one we've been using for many many years. Like the "other track" (that has yet to announce a location),we also use the best equipment. The only differance is we don't have the attitude. Anybody can ask anybody anything. And if that person doesn't know they can refer you to someone that does. And remember- nobody has been turned away from our track because of what their "motives" are.

And Johnny Boy- We did have two night races last year. I missed the first one but made it to the second. Remember the old lady?!

Race in Peace (Or be left in pieces)

whatever damagincracing, Chuck? CRL? any comments e-mail me .

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John thanks for the info on outdoor racing. New pavment is great, good deal. You all will have to see the track at spring valley park in Parchment, Mi. smoothest concrete I have ever seen. Ask Butch Beebe about it. OFF ROAD???

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C-dan....

I've been to the track you mentioned, and I agree it's quite remarkable that it's that smooth considering the age of it. I wish the concrete they use today would be half as good!


About the Off-Road track....

It's my pleasure to announce that the "Great Lakes Racers Club" will be bringing off-road racing back to Grand Rapids this summer! The track is located off of M-45. (It's NOT the old westside hobbies track) It's an awesome setup with a permanent drivers stand and room to do whatever we want as far as changing the layout, parking and etc. At the moment our plans are to run every other Sunday. The On-Road track will still run every Saturday.

John

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whatever damagincracing, Chuck? CRL? any comments e-mail me .

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Here it is in a nut shell.
Last year this club was strong armed by
three individuals, now of a different club.
Soon there after, we the club initiated a policy of Zero tolerance for theft, and it was overwhelmingly past by our board. This is why things happend the way they did at the CRL race. You see, we feel past performance is indicative to future results,
enough said.

Thank you Moe... I mean Knapster. Hehehe http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/biggrin.gif

No c-dan, I don't think I'll be e-mailing you with any comments. See, I dont believe in going behind peoples backs and making comments. I prefer to get things out in the open so there are witnesses. I say what I think. I personally had nothing to do with Chucks attendance at the CRL race. I wasn't there when it all happened. As for my feelings on the issue if I HAD been there, I dont care if he raced or not. I personally think Mr.Lonergan, Mr.Flipse, and Mr. Rott owe me an appology for the strongarm treatment and attempted take over of GLRC. But I know that will never happen because they believe they were in the right. I may not like or care much for them at this time, but hey- guess what? Thats life. You may not like me but I'm not loosing any sleep over it am I? Damon came and raced didn't he? Apl-Hed is at our track for the points series. I haven't complained and they haven't been kicked out because of "questionable motives". We're here to race. It doesn't matter what track or who's running it. But since motives matter to Mr. Rott,(yes I have seen the e-mails to other members) he can rest assured that I will NEVER set foot at a Rivertown track. Just as I am certain that the egos at GLRC will never be as large as those at Rivertown.

May the moderator edit me if I'm wrong...

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Mr. Powers....

I couldn't have said it any better myself!!!!

John

Mr Powers,

Thank you for the insight.


John ,

How far from your current location is the off road track, I am not that knowledgable with the GR area. But sound cool, maybe a MARS race for you guys with that new track.

I hear all this talk about this VHT stuff. But I have no idea what it is. So what is this stuff and why is it so much more benificial then what we have been using?

VHT is used at drag strips to provide traction. The burn-out area where they heat the tires is covered with VHT.

Pretty potent stuff.

C-dan....

I'd say the off-road track is somewhere around 6 to 8 miles or less from our present location.

I do agree that a MARS race back in GR would be awesome. As a matter of fact, I spoke with Bruce yesterday evening and have the necessary paperwork already on it's way!

jjpp... VHT (Very High Traction) is what's normally used in drag racing. They apply it to the track surface to aid the drivers and their cars to launch without wheelspin. The advantage for us is that it improves our tracks surface and will remain that way thru-out the entire day. Unlike using soda for traction which must be applied twice during the day due to it's ability to be sticky and hold dust, hence a slippery surface at some point depending on how windy it is.

John

?????Where'd everybody go?????

Hooters of course

Man john this must prove that the memory is the first thing to go, you were there with us last night.

Memory???? I agree that the memory is the first thing to go, however.... I can't remember what the second thing was!! WoooHoooo http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/smile.gif http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/wink.gif

oop's

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So I for one think that we need a change of subject on here. Who is going to go to lansing for the race on the 17th? I think that we should show some support for that track and the people over there by going. So what do we all say a change of pace for a sunday? Along the same thought what about trying bump-up mains? For those of you that dont know what bump-up mains are here goes: Lets say that I win the B-Main (which I did this week) I get the last entry into the A-Main. So that you truck guys dont think that I am forgeting about you how about a KING OF THE HILL RACE? That would be a race (after the mains) that there are no marshalls for so lets say that I flip over (which happens alot) my truck becomes another obstacle. So what you-all have to say?

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Knapster:

gee it's kinda hard to post when your at a race that's out of state...... and about your zero tolerance on theft.......what about your club members who take things and not pay for them?????????? last time I looked that's the same as stealing. I know of at least two of them that have done this. e-mail me for more info

Well, after reading most of this crap that has once again been brought back up, I thought I'd like to let all of you know that I would indeed delete the majority of them. BUT... my delete function doesn't seem to be working at the moment. Maybe if Hank reads this post he'll either fix what's wrong with mine or he'll delete them himself. I believe the other sites moderator's delete funtion works.

Am I going to see the Great Lakes R/C guys at the race in Lansing?? We're running both Oval & Road Course (On different days). I'd really like to see you guys there!! Friday March 15 is Club racing (oval), Saturday March 16 (oval), Saturday night (road course practice), Sunday (road course). You guys have always been great supporters of Hobby Hub sponsored events. Hope to see you there!!

-Nick

Im hoping to come out Nick. Im trying to get some guys to race F1 but i dont know if i cann get six. Could we run with less?

John- Im gunna bring the yamaha tomarow to see if we cant fix the bridge pick-up. Do u wanna wait to paint it or do u not really have a preference? Anyways, C Ya tomarow


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This was just brought to my attention and I deleted the offending posts. Since the tracks discussions have been moved back to the normal discussion areas only I can delete or edit posts (other then the author of that post). If any other problems like this crop up, please let me know and I'll take care of the messages and the person(s) posting the messages.

I tired of playing with the people involved and if it keeps up they will no longer be welcome here.

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