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KawadaKid
07-28-2002, 01:48 PM
Great Job to u too fred. I have a bunch of couplers on order...

KawadaKid
07-28-2002, 01:54 PM
wow, did u guys see the crash at the begining of the nascar race today?

Fred Knapp
07-28-2002, 02:50 PM
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/images/avatars/Dilbert_Wally.gif Tom, can you come out and play?

psycho02
07-29-2002, 12:49 PM
In case anybody has'nt been informed yet 12TH SCALE WILL BE MANDATORY THIS WINTER. YOU HEARD ME 12TH SCALE WILL BE MANDATORY. O.K. it is not mandatory BUT it is highly suggested. Come on what have you got to lose the cars are cheap only use 4 cell battery packs and are the most fun you will have on carpet ever.

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 05:16 PM
Originally posted by psycho02
In case anybody has'nt been informed yet 12TH SCALE WILL BE MANDATORY THIS WINTER. YOU HEARD ME 12TH SCALE WILL BE MANDATORY. O.K. it is not mandatory BUT it is highly suggested. Come on what have you got to lose the cars are cheap only use 4 cell battery packs and are the most fun you will have on carpet ever.
O.K., if I where to get one, which one should I get, and why that one.

mike vasilion
07-29-2002, 05:19 PM
well, fred, you'd have to pick a car that won't be in production next year. like you did with the rejex.haha:lol:

Rich Chang
07-29-2002, 05:22 PM
Fred,

The AE12L3 is a great 1/12th car. It is easy to build, maintain, and get parts for. Pretty much all 1/12ths out there are based on that car in some way. The car out of the box is competitive -- it does not need hop-ups.

All you need to get are additional T-bars (mainly thick T-bars if you are just going to race it on carpet) and front springs (.020). And, contrary to what a lot of folks say, T-bars do not wear out that quickly as long as the car doesn't hit a lot of stuff. I think I changed my T-bar 3 times last carpet season.

I've been running one for the last 2 years and have had great luck with it. I'll be running the Speedmerchant Rev. 3 this year, but that is just to try something different.

-Rich

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 05:24 PM
Originally posted by mike vasilion
well, fred, you'd have to pick a car that won't be in production next year. like you did with the rejex.haha:lol:
Yeah, maybe I could get two of them as well.
By the way, I had a great run this past staurday. I'm just about ready for the next MORL race.

psycho02
07-29-2002, 05:58 PM
Fred the associated is a good car as rich said I have one and it is great. I think this year though I am going to go with the carpet knife just because but really the only 12th scale I would say not to get is the corally only because you have to use their tires exclusively.

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 06:37 PM
Rich, Ken, thank for your imput. I'll have to see what happens as the indoor season draws near. One more question though. What is a good all around foam tire for the 12L3?

Rich Chang
07-29-2002, 06:43 PM
- .020" front springs (make sure you measure the wire. A lot of the .020 packaged springs are really .018 and the .022 springs are .020).
- light diff grease on the damper disks
- thick T-bar (I think I run .076" thick)
- green center spring
- 35 wt oil center shock
- middle lower than front and rear (ride height) - this is "sag."
- 3 mm right height front and rear
- caster shims - 1 in front, 1 at back (basically, middle position)
- reactive caster blocks (I ran whatever block gives you like 4 deg caster at static)
- trinity red stuff on the king pins

-Rich

psycho02
07-29-2002, 06:45 PM
purple front and grey rear roam tires are probably the best way to go or green tires front and rear. And I forgot YOU are a big trinity man you might want to look at the trinity switchblade and keep it in the family.

nitrorod
07-29-2002, 07:34 PM
Ernie hasn't sent you your car yet Fred? I am thinking about a Knife or the Speedmerchant Rev. 3 also. I can't wait to go back inside where we dont have to put up with the set-up tear-down weather and those pesky nitro cars.

Rich Chang
07-29-2002, 07:35 PM
Oh yeah - I forgot about tires. haha! Those are quite important.

Anyways, yeah, what Ken said. Some folks have run magenta fronts. I've never tried that combo, so I can't tell you how it feels and what the wear is like. I've always run purpler fronts and rears.

-Rich

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 08:12 PM
Thanks Rich,

J-rod, I like yourself am looking forward to the indoor season. I will have to admit I do like those noisy, nasty, smelly, dirty nitro's. Set up and tare down just happens to be a side effect.

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 08:15 PM
Originally posted by nitrorod
Ernie hasn't sent you your car yet Fred? I am thinking about a Knife or the Speedmerchant Rev. 3 also. I can't wait to go back inside where we dont have to put up with the set-up tear-down weather and those pesky nitro cars.
Yeah, I was going to buzz him up and tell him what my intentions were.

nitrorod
07-29-2002, 08:52 PM
Well I guess then someone whould know what you intentions are because I know I don't.....lol

Originally posted by knapster

Yeah, I was going to buzz him up and tell him what my intentions were.

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 08:55 PM
Originally posted by nitrorod
Well I guess then someone would know what you intentions are because I know I don't.....lol


Well good, that makes two of us!

nitrorod
07-29-2002, 09:05 PM
So which one you leaning to Fred?

psycho02
07-29-2002, 09:12 PM
You know he has to keep it in the family he is gonna run the switchblade since he is a provetti and his daddy will give him a car and not make him shell out the $279.00 for the kit.:eek: :devil: :devil: :devil:

psycho02
07-29-2002, 09:14 PM
sorry fred I could'nt help it I had to do it since john is not here to lean on you about the trinity stuff.

Fred Knapp
07-29-2002, 09:30 PM
Originally posted by psycho02
sorry fred I could'nt help it I had to do it since john is not here to lean on you about the trinity stuff.
Thats O.K. ken, I have thick skin. Even if you do'nt want to admit it, the Refex is a competitive car, as for the Trinity electric stuff I can't say, because I've never used any.

DaRoot'e'yeah
07-29-2002, 10:11 PM
Originally posted by knapster
...as for the Trinity electric stuff I can't say, because I've never used any.

Doesn't a Trinity car cause you to get Big Hair and talk with a funky british accent? :rolleyes:

psycho02
07-29-2002, 10:15 PM
I don't know about the hair and accent but the switchblade is a good 12th scale car I just don't know if it is $280.00 good.

Phat Dakota
07-30-2002, 09:57 AM
Fred - If you are interested I have a AE12L3 that I ran a few times last winter that I would be willing to part with pretty cheap. I would have to dig through and see what parts I have with it. And if ya like I could bring it down this saturday for you to look at. I even have a stock metal matched 4cell pack that I could let go with it.

nitrorod
07-30-2002, 12:55 PM
Andy what are you going to run if you get rid of you 12l3? You know 1/12th scale is manditory this year.

Phat Dakota
07-30-2002, 03:06 PM
I don't plan on running any on-raod carpet this winter just stadium. I also have a AE10L3O oval car for sale too if anyone's interested.

nitrorod
07-30-2002, 03:34 PM
Andy what ever will you do on Sundays this year? And no more oval? What is this world coming to?

Fred Knapp
07-30-2002, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Phat Dakota
Fred - If you are interested I have a AE12L3 that I ran a few times last winter that I would be willing to part with pretty cheap. I would have to dig through and see what parts I have with it. And if ya like I could bring it down this saturday for you to look at. I even have a stock metal matched 4cell pack that I could let go with it.
Andy, bring it with Saturday and I would be happy to check it out.

psycho02
07-30-2002, 06:35 PM
awww come on andy if i can run touring car this winter on carpet you can run some on road. Because you know that the apocalypse must be upon us If I am running a touring car. But seriously how come no on road this winter?

Phat Dakota
07-30-2002, 07:18 PM
Originally posted by psycho02
But seriously how come no on road this winter?

I guess b/c I never really had fun with it, I was either fighting my driving or the car all the time. SO I'll just leave the sedan for the summer and have fun running my truck, and hopefully if we get enough Mod. 4wd stadium. With a 12T motor Maximum and foam tires. It will be just like running sedans but with big air!

DamageIncRacing
07-30-2002, 07:30 PM
So... Has fearless leader come back yet with his barking rats yet? Haven't seen any insults- I mean posts from him:devil: :lol: :devil:

DamageIncRacing
07-30-2002, 07:33 PM
Oops... One too many "yet"'s...:eek: :devil: :lol:

Wally World
07-30-2002, 07:34 PM
nope he's not back yet most likly he'll be back tonight

Fred Knapp
07-30-2002, 07:35 PM
I believe John is due back tomorrow.

DamageIncRacing
07-30-2002, 07:36 PM
Jeez... I've been trying to find out when I can go take those rotted brake lines off my car at his house.

DamageIncRacing
07-30-2002, 07:37 PM
Hey Phat- You still lurking about?:devil:

Fred Knapp
07-30-2002, 09:14 PM
Originally posted by psycho02
I don't know about the hair and accent but the switchblade is a good 12th scale car I just don't know if it is $280.00 good.
How about $219.49 Is it that good.

Fred Knapp
07-30-2002, 09:19 PM
Eric, I thought you were going to come out and race last Saturday.

nitrorod
07-30-2002, 09:21 PM
Is that with your Ernie discount.

Originally posted by knapster

How about $219.49 Is it that good.

DamageIncRacing
07-30-2002, 09:22 PM
Was going to. Couple of things got in the way though. Justin had tubes put in his ears last week and has been a pain in th !ss ever since. Kaitlyns covered in bites from something. And that little storm we had...:lol: :devil:

Fred Knapp
07-30-2002, 09:25 PM
Originally posted by nitrorod
Is that with your Ernie discount.


No, My discount would be much more that that! But I could get you one for that, $219.49

nitrorod
07-30-2002, 10:00 PM
Look Fred has 444 posts thats cool....

psycho02
07-30-2002, 10:02 PM
219 is a good price that must not be the one with all the pretty purple flake graphite. But you should get it at any rate and keep it all in the trinity family.

nitrorod
07-30-2002, 10:07 PM
But Fred has a AE cab...When is Trinity coming out with theres Fred?

Fred Knapp
07-30-2002, 10:31 PM
Originally posted by nitrorod
But Fred has a AE cab...When is Trinity coming out with theres Fred?
I do'nt know, Ernie has'nt given me any info on that.

John Warner
07-31-2002, 05:48 PM
Okay, he's back! At least I think I am anyway. Brought back 13 of those AKC barking rats. The trip wasn't to bad considering the mountians.

But.... I also took the time and drove by the MSA raceway which is located in Crossville Tennessee and met the owner DR. I also have some of the BSR sedan tires to try out this weekend!

psycho02
07-31-2002, 05:56 PM
Hello pied piper How was your trip? Did you do your job and rid that nice southern town of all those loud rats? Oh by the way they are mountains not mountians and i told you :devil:

John Warner
07-31-2002, 06:04 PM
Yep, that little town called "Harriman" is now rodent free!! And let the towns-people rejoice!!! But I will tell ya that I've had about all I can handle of the "ya'alls and down-younders for awhile!

The drive itself wasn't all that bad, the weather was fair with only a little rain. I did manage to find myself a traffic jamb that we sat in for a little over three hours in the blazing hot sun on I-75!!

Originally posted by psycho02
Hello pied piper How was your trip? Did you do your job and rid that nice southern town of all those loud rats? Oh by the way they are mountains not mountians and i told you :devil:

psycho02
07-31-2002, 06:10 PM
Ya'll come back now ya hear. I know exactly what you are talking about. I myself picked up a nice southern accent while I was on my 4 year sabbatical in Florida. Had to blend in with the natives, and let me tell you it does not take long for it to rub off on you. If you would have stayed down there one more day you would have probably started looking for some redman "snuff" to start chewing on and looking for the drive through liquor store. They still have those down there don't they?:lol: