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DaRoot'e'yeah 04-11-2002, 02:27 PM Originally posted by nitrorod
What rims are you finding work then?
I've found that the Yokomo rims work great. Not too expensive, either.
Rich Chang 04-11-2002, 03:32 PM That's right- I forgot about those. Those are just as cheap as the Ofna's. I'm not sure if they changed the plastic compound, but their 5-spoke star wheels were pretty fragile, unfortunately.
I think yokomo came out with a wire mesh pattern type wheel and it looked like they had more nylon in that, so it was still stiff, but not as brittle.
DamageIncRacing 04-11-2002, 04:49 PM My problem isn't that I don't want to buy new tires, it's that I CAN'T buy new tires! I have boxes full of tires that are still good. I will be running electric. Are all electrics going to be required to run the same tire or will there be a spec tire class and a "run whatever rubber tire" class? If there's only going to be a spec tire class I might as well sell my stuff because I can't afford new sets of tires...Thats what I want to know. Thats why I missed the last month of indoors- blown foams and no cash. I'm sorry about the apparent attitude but I used to be told these things when I worked with the club...
Fred Knapp 04-11-2002, 04:56 PM And did I notice that our Avatars are back???? [/B][/QUOTE]
Yo, John. would you please clarify the meaning of AVATARS!
Rich Chang 04-11-2002, 05:32 PM Yeah, I'm in the same boat where I have piles of tires (mainly from doing the tire of the week thing last year. bleah), too.
For the Canton and the MORL races, we have two classes for electric and nitro touring car -- a spec tire class and an "open" class (run what ya want). I am sure you guys are doing the same. :)
-Rich
Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
My problem isn't that I don't want to buy new tires, it's that I CAN'T buy new tires! I have boxes full of tires that are still good. I will be running electric. Are all electrics going to be required to run the same tire or will there be a spec tire class and a "run whatever rubber tire" class? If there's only going to be a spec tire class I might as well sell my stuff because I can't afford new sets of tires...Thats what I want to know. Thats why I missed the last month of indoors- blown foams and no cash. I'm sorry about the apparent attitude but I used to be told these things when I worked with the club...
John Warner 04-11-2002, 05:37 PM Fredster.... Avatar, as in the little guy that's underneath my name to the left. Mine's a devil, J-Rod is a dog and so on.
ERIC...... Here's the answer to your question. The spec tire class will be SEPERATE from all other classes. I've posted this a few times in the past, but guess some of you have missed it. So.... in a nutshell it's like this, everything that we ran last year will remain the same. This year we're going to be ADDING a spec class for those who want to run the identicial tire and insert combination. But, ONLY IF YOU WANT TO.
John
Rich Chang 04-11-2002, 05:42 PM Hiya John!
Yeah, I should go through the Canton thread and see how many times I posted that the spec class would be a separate class. Some folks still come up to me and complain that they don't want to be forced to run in the spec class. :rolleyes: hehe!
-Rich
DaRoot'e'yeah 04-11-2002, 06:18 PM Originally posted by rchang
I think yokomo came out with a wire mesh pattern type wheel and it looked like they had more nylon in that, so it was still stiff, but not as brittle.
Thats what I've been running. Just make sure if you're running a TC3 you get the right off set. They are quite strong and as for being brittle, I have yet to break one. And if you've ever seen me run, thats saying ALOT for a rim :lol: .
later............
Fred Knapp 04-11-2002, 07:27 PM John, are you going to have that gasser ready for
Saturday? Last time I talked to Nitrorod he had
his prit-near together. I still have stuff on
back order from the hobby shop, they just can not
seem to get stuff in. Maybe I can bum the stuff I need.
groundhogg 04-11-2002, 07:31 PM Hey John, are you racing in Rider's parking lot again this year?
Fred Knapp 04-11-2002, 09:17 PM Groundhogg,
Racing starts at noon on Saturday at Rider's
Parking lot.
nitrorod 04-11-2002, 09:18 PM Originally posted by knapster
John, are you going to have that gasser ready for
Saturday? Last time I talked to Nitrorod he had
his prit-near together. I still have stuff on
back order from the hobby shop, they just can not
seem to get stuff in. Maybe I can bum the stuff I need.
Well mine is still almost there wating on a servo and recever hopefully they will be here on friday if not I will have to go to plan b. But I just got back from Riders where we are running this weekend and they have no tires for me:confused: So I guess it will be pit 20 and 24s for me this weekend hope it is cool out.
Fred Knapp 04-11-2002, 09:23 PM Nitrorod,
It sounds like it may be in the mid to low sixty's.
Hope that works for you?
John Warner 04-11-2002, 10:35 PM GroundHogg....
Yep, as a matter of fact, we're starting this coming Saturday! Believe or not, but I'm looking forward to it this year:)
Knapster....
Mid 60's, hey now I like that forcast:thumbsup: I think it's supposed to rain a little Friday morning, should make for a cool morning! Gasser?? Me?? Oh, that's right, I do have one of those noisey cars now. Although mine doesn't make a peep:( Haven't started it yet, don't have a starter box! I tried dragging it behind my ford thinking maybe I could put it in second gear and drop the clutch, but that didn't work out to well:hat: He-He!!
NitroDog....
I have a PCM reciever your more than welcome to use, in fact I'll even let ya borrow my new 9303 if ya'd like!
nitrorod 04-12-2002, 07:45 AM Originally posted by John Warner
NitroDog....
I have a PCM reciever your more than welcome to use, in fact I'll even let ya borrow my new 9303 if ya'd like!
Thanks for the offer John but I think that I am still going to be short in the HP. with that old Colt .12 that I have in there now. Plus the lack of tires that I have sucks and Riders has no Nitro!:cry: If my new moter comes in today I am going to be in the same boat as you with starting it.
Eric,
Look in that box of tires that you have and see if you have any Sorex, that is the spec tire.
Fred Knapp 04-12-2002, 05:01 PM John,
I don’t think your supposed to drag that car
to start it. Try kick starting it and see
what happens.
groundhogg 04-12-2002, 08:18 PM Thanks guys
KawadaKid 04-13-2002, 12:46 AM Im back....
John Warner 04-13-2002, 09:21 PM All I can say is holy cow what an awesome start for our 2002 outdoor season!! The weather was beautiful and the turnout was beyond belief. Can't wait for the new asphalt to be put down:)
The track trailer worked flawlessly, and everything went very smoothly. Well, except for the scoring loop cable that decided to die just before the start of the mains:( (Good thing we had the spare with us!!
See ya'll tomorrow at the off-road track!
John
nitrorod 04-13-2002, 09:53 PM Yeah what a day I would have to say that that was the best day this year. The 15 min A Main was great and won by none other than the B-day boy himself....Fred.....how old was he again? I am going to have to work on my Nitro car hard this week to get ready for next weekend.
I got about 10 people that want in on out spec tire class and found out how many tires that they need. So if any one eles wants tires that has not said anything please tell me so that we can have a big order and get a good discount.
Later
John Warner 04-13-2002, 11:38 PM Hummmmm...... Lemmee see if my memory serves me correct... 47! I believe is what Mary told me ;)
Originally posted by nitrorod
A-main won by the Birthday boy himself....Fred.....how old was he again?
Rainn2378 04-14-2002, 12:29 AM Nitro-Sorry but Eric won't be able to do the racing thing for at least a little while. Family problems that has called him away to the hospital...if you wanna know more ask Johnny Boy because i don't want to post it on the site....ok?
:( :(
groundhogg 04-14-2002, 10:34 AM Hey John,
What tires are people running on the nitro tourers? Foam or rubber? What kind?
nitrorod 04-15-2002, 04:27 PM Originally posted by Rainn2378
Nitro-Sorry but Eric won't be able to do the racing thing for at least a little while. Family problems that has called him away to the hospital...if you wanna know more ask Johnny Boy because i don't want to post it on the site....ok?
:( :(
I understand and my thoughts are with your family.
John Warner 04-16-2002, 09:40 PM Tires.... We ran both foam and rubber classes. For the rubber class, most are using the Sorex in med componds front, and soft rears. Foam class, Double purples (or plaids) in the front, and purples in the rear.
Originally posted by groundhogg
Hey John,
What tires are people running on the nitro tourers? Foam or rubber? What kind?
Rich Chang 04-17-2002, 08:24 PM Hi John,
I see your racing starts at noon. What time is the track set up? Aaron and I (and maybe Fred if we can convince him) are planning on coming to race at your track on Saturday.
-Rich
John Warner 04-17-2002, 08:51 PM Hey Rich!
The track is usually set up by 10:00-10:30, sometimes earlier depending on the amount of help we have. Not trying to discourage you from coming, but I wanted you to know that the new asphalt wasn't put down as of noon today (Tuesday) From my understanding, it'll hopefully be done by this weekend. But please feel free to come on over regardless. You know we always enjoy your company!!
John
Rich Chang 04-17-2002, 10:17 PM Oh cool. That's means I don't have to wake up too early. haha!
No problem on the track surface. What is up with the current surface? Is it real torn up with lots of cracks?
Anyways, that won't deter us from coming up. We just want to race somewhere that has a lot of cars! Most of the tracks on this side of the state aren't opening until the 28th.
How many entries did you have last week in the rubber tire, nitro TC class?
I'll be hitting JCC on Sunday to race nitro there. My wife is gonna hide all my r/c stuff. haha!
-Rich
brewha25 04-18-2002, 11:18 AM Well kids it looks like it's happened to us again but at a different place. I got a message from John on my voicemail that said the off-road track is closed. Rich received a notice from the city that if he runs again he will be fined and what not. I thought we had a permit that said it was ok to run, but I guess not. I don't know all the details but I wouldn't plan on racing next weekend from what it looks like now.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
John Warner 04-18-2002, 02:15 PM Even though our present location has run into a snag, that doesn't mean we won't be running off-road this season. We have a few other locations in mind that may be workable. I'll be making phone calls today and tomorrow to see what our options are.
It's a real shame that Standales City government gets overpowered by another because of a zoning issue. (it seems that the property is "rural reserve") But, Standale didn't have a problem with the track, it's the county!
Keep your fingers crossed!
John Warner 04-18-2002, 10:16 PM Meijer - Cascade !!
:wave: :thumbsup: :rolleyes: :p :roll:
KawadaKid 04-18-2002, 11:39 PM what about the MEIJER in CASCADE?
lol.....:devil:
Rich Chang 04-19-2002, 08:30 AM Hey John,
What does the local newspaper say your weather is going to be like tomorrow?
I checked weather.com and they say it is supposed to be clear tomorrow. However, I looked at the doppler radar map and see a large storm system just west of G.R.
-Rich
nitrorod 04-19-2002, 09:10 AM Rich,
The weather that I saw this morning said no rain tommorrow. Hope to see you over here.
Aaron Bomia 04-19-2002, 09:55 AM No rain...cool temperatures...what more could you ask for??? Oh, yeah, a fast nitro car...yeah, that's it...
DamageIncRacing 04-19-2002, 10:02 AM "Meijer - Cascade !!"
Ok Johnny Boy what are you talking about!!!!
:confused: :confused: :confused:
Rich Chang 04-19-2002, 10:33 AM Cool - it will be Aaron and I making the trek out. Fred wussed out and is going to stay local to Jackson. :)
We should be there around 10:00a.
Is it okay to sell stuff at the track? I have a bunch of stuff I'm trying to sell (cars, pit boxes/bags and other stuff).
-Rich
Originally posted by nitrorod
Rich,
The weather that I saw this morning said no rain tommorrow. Hope to see you over here.
nitrorod 04-19-2002, 10:45 AM Rich we do have one requirement for selling stuff....You need to see John and I first. Look forward to running with you in the rubber nitro class right?
Rich Chang 04-19-2002, 10:58 AM Okay, I'll see you two first. I have a Serpent Impulse Pro (brand new), a TC3 Factory Team kit, an Ofna Z10 nitro (all blue aluminum), a JR R1, JR PCM receivers, two hex driver tool sets, an airbrush kit plus compresor, Trinity pit bag (the one with 3 boxes), Plano fishing box, another fishing type box that is good for lugging gallons of nitro fuel in, plus some other miscellaenous stuff.
I also have a ton of new and mounted tires.
Yep, I'll be racing rubber tire. Same for Aaron.
Aaron Bomia 04-19-2002, 02:21 PM Are you sure you have enough things to sell? I can add to the list if need be. :p
Originally posted by rchang
Okay, I'll see you two first. I have a Serpent Impulse Pro (brand new), a TC3 Factory Team kit, an Ofna Z10 nitro (all blue aluminum), a JR R1, JR PCM receivers, two hex driver tool sets, an airbrush kit plus compresor, Trinity pit bag (the one with 3 boxes), Plano fishing box, another fishing type box that is good for lugging gallons of nitro fuel in, plus some other miscellaenous stuff.
I also have a ton of new and mounted tires.
Yep, I'll be racing rubber tire. Same for Aaron.
Fred Knapp 04-20-2002, 08:27 PM All right! Another great day of racing!
Thanks Rich Chang and Aaron Bomia for making the
trip up here. Of course, to all of the club members
it would'nt be possible without you, thanks.:thumbsup:
Rich Chang 04-20-2002, 10:01 PM Hi Fred!
Thanks! I had a great time. My car kept getting better as the day went on. My setup in the main was a lot different from what I started the day with. I'm glad the weather held up and turned out to be really nice.
That was my first 15 minute main and it was a blast! The longest heat I've ever done is 1/12th 8-minutes! One of my tires definitely didn't like that long a main, however. I was wondering why my car started to spin out near the end of the main -- I found the left-rear tire was completely off the rim except for about 1/4" that was still glued on. Haha! Guess I was too rough with it in the sweeper. :)
I'm such a r/c junkie. On the way home I stopped by JCC and ran some laps on the track they have set up for tomorrow. Haha! I hope the weather turns out to be nice tomorrow, too!
Thanks to John, Nitrorod, and the rest of the GLRC club for a fun day!
-Rich
nitrorod 04-21-2002, 07:15 PM Hey Rich thanks and comming over and playing with us with your toys. What tires were you running and how was the wear on our crappy parking lot? Look forward to running with you guys again prehaps at the first MORL race. I just hope I can get my car to handle a bit better.
Rich Chang 04-21-2002, 08:32 PM For the last qualifier and in the mains I ran Sorex 36 w/HPI red insert up front, and Sorex 32 w/HPI red insert at back. Those worked on the hot asphalt and also when the track got cool. However, I would have preferred to have run Sorex 40s up front, and Sorex 36s at back.
My car pushed a bit in the main, but that was mainly b/c of the excessive amount of toe-in I had in the rear.
The tires wore really well. They still have the molding ridge in the middle of the tire.
Anyways, for nitro touring car, I don't recommend anything lower than a Sorex 32 compound.
I will be trying the same compound all around (ie: Sorex 36 front and back, or Sorex 40 front and back) next week at Canton.
-Rich
KawadaKid 04-21-2002, 09:07 PM Hey guys,
Im hoping to come run some nitro touring car this weekend, assuming i get my servo parts from Mr. Aple Hed.....
I dont have spec tires yet, but who can i get them from, and what ones do i want?
Rich Chang 04-22-2002, 10:44 AM I don't know if Riders G.R. has any Sorex tires in stock? But, if they do, I recommend not getting anything lower than the Sorex 32 compound for your car.
If they have Take Off's CS series, you can get those, too. They are just as good as the Sorex tires, and they come with great inserts. Don't go below CS27's on those for nitro TC.
We wanted to run the Take Offs as the spec tire for the Canton Series and the MORL series, but their availability can be quite sporadic from the distributor (Schumacher Racing).
-Rich
Aaron Bomia 04-22-2002, 02:44 PM Man, I had a lot of fun running that 15-minute main. That's the longest I've ever had to run. The sad thing is the overall laps Rich and I got. I think we turned around 51 laps, and I think we could have turned around 58-59 laps. That's a little tough when my car was on its lid, sliding across the parking lot and into a nearby van. My lexan body is toast. :(
Fred Knapp 04-22-2002, 04:37 PM John, as you can see we all had fun, are you going
to join in and debut that NEW TC3?:lol:
KawadaKid 04-22-2002, 10:15 PM Rich,
I went with the sorex 32R's and 28R's. I think that should give me enough room for setup if need be. Whos running Mugens this year besides me?
Rich Chang 04-23-2002, 07:35 AM The 28s might turn out to be a bit too soft. I found they were good for about 1 minute and then they started feeling "greasy."
I'm running the MTX-2. Same one I've been running the last 2 years. :) Same, original MT-12 engine, too!
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