Okay, many of you offered or expressed interest in helping when we move out of our indoor facility. Well, that time is here. There have however been a few changes that will make putting our belongings into storage much easier this year. The club has purchased our very own bus, that's right..... A BUS!! It's a 1990, 77 passenger Bluebird body on a Ford chassis with a 9.0 liter V-8 Detroit diesel and an Allision automatic transmission.

Instead of loading everything into trucks, vans and trailers, then making several trips to the storage location and unloading it all just to reverse the process again in the fall, we'll now only have to load (or unload) it once a season!! This bus is quite large enough to store everything.

So, here's the plan...... TUESDAY evening we'll be getting things ready to load on the bus. I.e.: rolling up the carpet, breaking down the drivers stand, rolling up cords etc. Plus a couple of us will be removing all of the seats from the bus. Which reminds me, anybody have a use for some bus seats????? All of the tables have already disassembled, stacked and are ready to load. (that was done Monday evening) WEDNESDAY evening will be the first loading night. Hopefully we'll have enough people there to get the majority (if not all) done all at once. Al of this depends on how many show up to help. Remember, many hands make light work for all.

Hope to see you there!
John

Holy Cow! Talk about jumping to the wrong conclusions. Just because Tony and I are putting a track in our yard does not mean we are trying to start a new club or take racers from the other tracks. Tony decided to put the track in so we have a place to play this summer, and decided to offer for everyone to be able to use it. Now all of a sudden everyone is freaking out, talking about too many tracks and stealing racers. He made the offer to John thinking that if John wanted to, for ONE afternoon, run a race here, that'd be fine. Tony didn't say when, and as far as I know, was thinking it would be a different date than any of the Standale races. Tony just made a suggestion, last I looked, that wasn't a crime, yet the reaction he got made it seem like he did something wrong. I think everyone needs to chill out, and wait till they know the facts before they freak out.

<<Tony decided to put the track in so we have a place to play this summer, and decided to offer for everyone to be able to use it.>>

Omega.... Nobodys freaking out, but have you ever givin any thought to this, what if all the racers put tracks in their backyard just so they could have a place for themselves and their friends or even everyone to play?? Or... how about answering this, what are you and Tony going to charge racers to come "play" at your house, nothing, maybe a couple of bucks? Running any track takes lots of time, commitment and money. Don't you think people would rather race at your place if it was free or had cheaper rates?

We've spent over six years building our club to what it is today. You have no idea of how much time, work and money it's taken. Remember something.... WE ARE A CLUB, NOT JUST ANOTHER TRACK! Do me a favor, look up the definition of the word club and see what it says, okay?

Thanks,
John

When r u looking at needing help to load up? What time frame? I could have Dougo come down and help if needed.:roll:

Well, the indoor track has been packed up, loaded and put away for the summer season. Now I'm looking forward to the outdoors. If only Mother nature would lighten up a little!! First parking lot race will be Saturday, April the 13th, and the Standale off-road tracks first race will be Sunday the 14th.

Bill at Rider's has informed me that the parking lot's entire surface will now be repaved. They are going to install sections of pipe into and at surface level so that we can erect our perimeter fencing for the entire season and remove it at seasons end. This way our track will be dedicated for our use only and no cars will be driving or parking on the track all summer long! We will have 12" borders surrounding the track to keep the cars where they belong, AND a four foot high fence also surrounding the track to protect the spectators and keep them out of harms way.

The additions inside the trailer are almost completly finished as of today. Before weekends end I'm assuming it should be completed. Just be prepared for something totally new and exciting in the way of starting a race and racing in general! It'll only add to the fun for our outdoor season.

Well, guess that's about all for now unless I think of something else! LoL :)


John

Read above, I edited the last post!

It's probably been posted before, but I was wondering what time racing starts next saturday? From the sound of things, Mother Nature seems willing to cooperate this year.

Again, sorry if this is a repeat of something already discussed. Heads not quite right. Damn ears haven't stopped bleeding! Lordy, I love Rob Zombie........ WhoooooHoooooooo..........

Uh, sorry 'bout that. Just what was in that drink........

later............:devil:

HEY JOHNNY BOY!!! What happened to ya saturday? Went up to the track to load up that desk and waited...And waited...And waited...

Hey John,
I'm not sure how true this is but, I have just
heard that there may be yet another track
in the works for JC park. Three in this
area could be a little much.

Another track??? As in parking lot or off-road? I'm assuming your talking about that area closest to 28th street where we seen "YKW" yesterday?????


Originally posted by knapster
Hey John,
I'm not sure how true this is but, I have just
heard that there may be yet another track
in the works for JC park. Three in this
area could be a little much.

I do'nt think YKW would be racing there.
No names mentioned, could be interesting to see though.

Oh, by the way it was on road that I was
talking about.

All these cryptic messages are messing with my head. I just wanna know when we're racing.

later.........

I do'nt know about the others but I can tell you this,
GRLC will be running on saturday the 13th.

Originally posted by knapster
I do'nt know about the others but I can tell you this,
GRLC will be running on saturday the 13th.

I know that, but what time? Is racing scheduled to start at 12? 1? :confused:

Knapster....

Well, I just finished talking to "EAG" and the've heard the same story I guess you've heard. I can't imagine why they'd pick GR for parking lot racing when there's already going to be two tracks here now! Oh well, nothings written in stone as of today, so I guess we'll just have to wait and see if it pans out.


Rootster....

Yep, Nitro season is almost here, this coming Saturday we'll be there at 9:30 setting up. First heat begins at 12:00. Three heats and the l o n g mains, especially for the A qualifiers! Also, be sure to remember the dates for the night races under the lights. Nothing but pure unadultaraded fun for all who attend!!!

Don't know if I'll debut my un-skilled nitro driving abilities or not. May wait a week or two, we'll have to see :rolleyes:

John

Originally posted by John Warner
Rootster.... Don't know if I'll debut my un-skilled nitro driving abilities or not. May wait a week or two, we'll have to see
John

Great. A new nick name. At least this one's abit catchy. And I think I'll be waiting a week to race nitro too. Seems our favorite retailer is on the short end of stock in the engine department. And tire dept. On-road and off. Maybe we should start calling it "Tigers" instead :devil: .

Maybe can shoe-horn a 4cycle airplane engine into a NTC3?

later........

Originally posted by John Warner

Don't know if I'll debut my un-skilled nitro driving abilities or not. May wait a week or two, we'll have to see :rolleyes:

John
Well since I have built my car in 1/10th the time that it has taken john, it sounds like I may be able to steal a win with my nitro car if now one eles shows up I am not apposed to winning with no one eles running.
What do you guys think of running a spec tire class like Rich is in Canton? I know that I would be for it. Then we could join in on the seires race that is going on over on the east side of the state.

Originally posted by nitrorod


What do you guys think of running a spec tire class like Rich is in Canton? I know that I would be for it. Then we could join in on the seires race that is going on over on the east side of the state.

Yes, yes and yes.... Did I mention I like this idea? Count me in for this. If there is the intrest I will bug Riders into giving a discount on the spec tires.

Mike Slaughter

Ok finaly some interest. I think that we should go with the same thing that Rich is running:
Sorex tires (24R, 28R, 32R, 36R)
HPI Red Inserts
Any rim (just as long as it has a vent hole so we can tech the insert)
What you think? Anyone eles want to try it? How about the Cowada Kid?

DeRootster,

Hummmm.... Talking about new nicknames, I think I've finally come up with the proper way to pronounce somebody's last name, and how appropriate as well!! How's this..... "DeRider" as in our favorite retailer. Gee, come to think of it, even the first names the same as well ;)


Originally posted by DaRoot'e'yeah

Great. A new nick name. At least this one's abit catchy.

Ok,I'm for spec tires as well.
Plaids in the front and purples in the rear.
BSR, TRC, Treads or even Pro-line will make
for some really competitive racing.

ON ROAD RACE SCHEDULE 2002
GREAT LAKES RACERS CLUB

APRIL 13TH
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MAY 4TH
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JUNE 1ST
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JULY 6TH
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AUG 3RD
AUG 10TH
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AUG 24TH
AUG 31ST
SEPT 7TH
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NIGHT RACING SCHEDULE WILL BE POSTED SOON.

Night Racing Schedual:

May 25th (Memorial Day Weekend)
June 29th
July 20th
August 10th
August 31st (Labor Day Weekend)

Gee Nitrorod,
I hope your as fast with your new nitro TC3
as you are with the keyboard?

Did anyone see the weather forcast for this weekend? Well no suprise it's suppose to rain all freaking weekend!!:mad: :mad: :mad:

LOL MOther Nature doesn't want to cooperate does she?:rolleyes:

Yes I've seen the forcast and I would'nt worry
to much. Around here all you half to do is wait
awhile and you may get a whole new forcast.

Originally posted by nitrorod
What do you guys think of running a spec tire class like Rich is in Canton? I know that I would be for it. Then we could join in on the seires race that is going on over on the east side of the state.

Works for me. I was planning on running Sorexs anyways. And limiting it to HPI red inserts makes that decision that much easier. Now, which tyre to use?

later..........

Yep, even I like the idea of the spec tire thing. I wouldn't worry to much about the rain, after all, this isn't Florida!


Yo, DeRiderRooter.... didn't you read my response on our other thread? Or didn't you like it???


Also, to those of you who obviously don't have access to a spell checker, the proper spelling is... Schedule! :thumbsup:

Hi John!

How goes it? It was mentioned to me that you folks were chatting about the spec tire issue. :) Glad to see more folks are willing to give it a try!

In regards to the M.O.R.L series, I would like to include Grand Rapids in the series next year. I actually wasn't going to do the series this year since I was swamped with helping to get Canton racing back up and running, but somehow I got sucked into organizing the MORL, too. :) So, to try and keep things a little simpler, I kept the races to just 4 tracks and kept them on the east side of the state this year. So, we'll have to chat next year about good race dates. Since you guys do a lot of night races and you race on Saturdays, a night race would be definitely doable.

I am hoping that the spec tire class grows a lot this year. If it works out really well, I will look into getting pre-assembled Sorex tires for next year.

-Rich

What classes are you planning to run spec tires in? Should I plan on missing outdoor season too?

Eric, the spec class would be for nitro for sure but if there was enough interest. I am thinking that there would be two classes one for the guys that want to run foams (like Fred) and one for those of us that would like the challenge of working on the car setup running the spec tire. I would be all for doing it with the electric class also. Identical sets of tires for both my cars means less stuff I need to carry with me to the track.

Hey Rich!

Glad to see I'm not the ONLY Elder Statesman :)

I'm sure we'd be more than happy to host one of the M.O.R.L. series races. If you don't already have my phone number, it's 616-838-2231. Although I'm sure we'll see one another before next year!

And about the spec tire issue, I really think it's a great idea, especially if we could get some kind of "deal" on them by buying them in quanties. I believe it would draw more participition if using them would bring the overall cost down as well. But more over, I like the idea of everyone having to run using the same tire/insert combination. It makes for a much more even playing field. And , would eliminate having to run the "tire of the week"!! I couldn't begin to tell you how many different sets of tires, inserts and wheels I've tried thruout the years trying to find the right setup.:cry:


Originally posted by rchang
Hi John!
In regards to the M.O.R.L series, I would like to include Grand Rapids in the series next year. So, to try and keep things a little simpler, I kept the races to just 4 tracks and kept them on the east side of the state this year. So, we'll have to chat next year about good race dates. Since you guys do a lot of night races and you race on Saturdays, a night race would be definitely doable.
-Rich

Well, lookie there, the weather forecast for this weekend has ALREADY changed. SWEET!:roll:

How about a Foam class for people like me.
A spec rubber class and just a rubber class.
This way people who want to race taking all
things into consideration like heat, humidity
etc. can run what thay feel would be appropreate
at the time given the conditions.

Yo, Fredster......

"People like me"??? Just what kind of people are you??? Oh, boy... Bet I've just opened up a can of worms for someone !! ;)

Seriously though, nobody's doing away with the foam class, as a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet it'll still be the biggest class out of them all! :eek:

I'm all for running a spec tire in electric. Unfortunately, some of us can't afford to go out and by more tires to add to the boxes we already have. Just add a spec class for those that want to run them.

Originally posted by John Warner
Seriously though, nobody's doing away with the foam class, as a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet it'll still be the biggest class out of them all! :eek:

Foam tyres on asphalt!?:eek: It's just not right. Something to be said for keeping the scale realism of rubber. Instead of adjusting air pressure, we've got inserts. I guess next we could add about six inches to the car's width, too :devil: .

later........

People Like me, like to go fast.
I don't think it matters if your running foam or
rubber. If you want to go fast you need a good
set-up and once you have that set-up, why not go
as fast as conditions allow. So, in a nutshell,
I believe the fastest way around the track is
with a great set-up and foam tires.

Originally posted by knapster
People Like me, like to go fast.

I'm pretty sure that covers every racer. If we didn't want to go fast we'd take up sowing or something cheaper.......

[/i][/B]I believe the fastest way around the track is
with a great set-up and foam tires. [/B][/QUOTE]

I've found that if I lay off the throttle abit and not hit stuff, my lap times drop. Just my findings, 'dats all...;)

Im just concerned about the cost. Some of us can't afford to go out and buy the "tire of the week".

HEY JOHNNY BOY!!! Whats the word on the asphalt? Weathers gettin good ya know... Got racin comin up this weekend...

That's the idea behind a spec tire and insert. :-) No tire or insert of the day/week/month.

And, the rubber tires work whether the track is treated or not. But, you guys don't have to worry about that since your track is treated (you lucky ducks!). Over here on the east side of the state, the tracks are not treated. So, foams are pretty much out of the question.

Oh, foams for indoor are not going to be as simple anymore next season. TRC has a new foam compound called 'aqua' or something like that. They're like plaids, but either softer or harder. I can't remember. :D

-Rich


Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Im just concerned about the cost. Some of us can't afford to go out and buy the "tire of the week".

Eric.....

I talked to the company that's doing the work yesterday and they said that the first decent dry & warm day we have, they'll get it done. I don't know that I'd expect it completed before this coming weekend, but if mother nature cooperates then I'd expect it to be finished before Saturday:)


The work inside our "Trackside Trailer" is just about completed. I installed the AMBrc decoder box, the big amplifier, two wireless receivers (not 27 MHz), a gel-cell battery back-up, a 2500 joules surge/lighting protector, Toshiba satellite laptop W/autoscore windows version 7.24, the new laser printer, two internal fans, a permanent scoring table and all the rest of the stuff needed. Except for the table, it all went nicely inside the custom built enclosure. Total size is 28" tall X 8" deep X 18" wide. Nice and compact!!!


And did I notice that our Avatars are back????

Originally posted by DamageIncRacing
Im just concerned about the cost. Some of us can't afford to go out and buy the "tire of the week".
Well Eric that makes two of us, because I cant afford to also. I also can afford to get new foams every week or two. That is why I want to do this spec tire class rubber tires last longer and we only have to buy 4 sets top. So it sounds like we are a go for the spec tires now we just need some tires.

Yeah, the cool thing about the Sorex and the Take Offs (numbered series) is that they last a really long time. On the nitro cars we went through only 3 sets last year. I actually only went through 2 -- the 3rd set got hosed because I used a spoked Proline rim and the rim twisted (Proline rims are too soft).

I spoke with the Sorex importer yesterday and he mentioned that they are going to be molding the tire compound (ie: 24R, 26R) into the sidewall of the tire.

So, limiting the compounds within the Sorex brand can also be done.

Hey Rich E-mail me about what kind of deal you have worked out to get tires. I am thinking that if we combine orders we may get a better deal. jerrodglover@hotmail.com

Originally posted by rchang
I actually only went through 2 -- the 3rd set got hosed because I used a spoked Proline rim and the rim twisted (Proline rims are too soft).

Rich,
What rims are you finding work then?

On electric TC the proline rims should work okay. If worse comes to worse and you have to use proline rims on your nitro TC, use their dished rims.

The rims I prefer are the Schumacher dished and spoked rims. Those suckers are S-O-L-I-D and can take the abuse. These rims will definitely outlast the tire.

Overall, anything that uses a rigid plastic will work (not that soft flexy stuff that Proline works).

The basic test I use is: if I can squeeze and compress the rim with my fingers, it's too soft.

Other possible rims are: HPI rims and OFNA spoked rims (not those weird flourescent solid dish rims). I like the OFNA rims since they are $1 a rim, but they are a little brittle. But, when the rim cracks, I just CA it up and run it. :)

-Rich