why come no one races 10th scale onroad anymore. i mean besides the touring cars. they use to make onroad 10th scales cars kinda like bigger versions of 12th scale onroad. is there reasons why they dont make and run this class much anymore? just curious i think it was the coolest class. thanks

because they weren't breaking enough parts so the car companies came up with touring cars with many more moving parts that are much easier to break. I used to run 1/10th road too and it's probably still my favorite class, but times change.

We are racing 6-cell 1/10th Pan car On-road this Sunday in Maple Heights, Ohio. First weekend may be stock motors, then in two weeks it'll be Mod. Our track is a Ozite roadcourse that is almost 100' x 50'. If you still have a pan car and Cleveland is not too far to drive, post again and I'll try and get you more info. For starters, you'll need your own table, chair and extension cord.

You guys who like tenth scale GTP- You gotta come out to Cleveland and race with us. The track is big and the cars are a blast. I agree- this class was by far the most awesome to drive back in the day.

Knock off the dust and come on out.
If anyone is interested,please post a reply and we can send you directions.

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The Flyer for the are in.

Norrca On-road Nat’s
May 16, 17, and 18th
http://swr.arroyoc.net/index.cfm?fu...print&event=102


Speedworld Challenge Cup
April 26-27
http://swr.arroyoc.net/index.cfm?fu...print&event=101

let try and get a full field of Pro 10 and 1/12th.

So far out of all the classes the two pan car classes have the most sign ups.

why come no one races 10th scale onroad anymore. i mean besides the touring cars. they use to make onroad 10th scales cars kinda like bigger versions of 12th scale onroad. is there reasons why they dont make and run this class much anymore? just curious i think it was the coolest class. thanks

Because pan cars are hard to drive, baffling to set up, and generally a pain?

Because pan cars are hard to drive, baffling to set up, and generally a pain?


Sorry but that what TC are, Hard to driver, hard to set up and are a realy pain the the A _ _ to work on. I can give to a list on what a pain on a TC (to many parts for one) and how long it take tear them a parts to fix somethings.

The last time Pro-10 (10th scale modified pan car 6-cell) ran as a national ROAR class was at the Minnreg in Fl. From what I remember Josh Cyrul and Mike Blackstock saying is the cars were just too fast. And that was only with 11 turns. They were just to fast and you just couldn;t drive them smoothly. Even in stock they are a hand full unless they are on a big track. Somewhat the same thing as 12th stock 6-cell, it is even faster the 4-cell mod and just to hard to handle.

Okay, let's dispel some myths. 1/12th 4-cell mod is actually faster than 1/12th 6-cell stock. The added voltage doesn't make up for the extra weight with only a stock motor.

1/10th Pan cars are infinitely easier to wrench on and 10 times more durable than TC's, they're also WAYYYYYY faster. Now, on a narrow carpet track a 10th Pan Car with a ten turn is really tough to drive, but on a track wide enough to cleanly race TC's on they're not that bad.
Our track (god I miss it), was 88'x45' if I remember correctly, and Doseck had no problem wheeling a 9 dbl equipped Switchblade 10 around the roadcourse. To be honest, they're actually easier to drive than 1/12th cars if the track dimensions are proportional. I mean way more rubber, wider track, longer wheelbase, and more downforce!? How can that be more difficult to drive?

:devil: Now, 6-cell 1/12th mod, that's a whole different can of worms! :devil:

Carpet, hmmm? Some of us are racing on parking lots. Dirty, low-quality parking lots. I've driven a pan car on our surface, and it handled like a hovercraft. The 4wd and weight of a TC really help to keep it pointed forward. Which is kind of the reason TCs got popular in the first place...

The other part of it is that, for those of us who were already racing offroad, a TC's suspension makes sense, whereas a pan hard bar is a mystery.

Carpet, hmmm? Some of us are racing on parking lots. Dirty, low-quality parking lots.


Therein lies the problem!! I'll tell ya, nothin' handles a dusty parking lot like a T-Maxx. I absolutely hate racing in dusty, crummy parking lots. I have actually raced 1/10th pan on decent paved parking lots. We just laid down a little 40%Orange Soda, 60% water with a garden sprayer, and we were dialled in.

I also don't understand the "mystery" of pan car tuning. The adjustments are no different than those on an off-road car. Heck the rear end is even simpler on a pan car. I dunno, I've run just about every type of electric vehicle, and the only thing I've ever really struggled with set-up wise is LTO cars on concrete. Oval tuning is just too complicated. :devil:

Ian, do you want to see if we can get a class of them going for some of the bigger races this summer?? Kinda liek Corcar's mid summer deal, of teh Summer Classic in Lansing?

Greg: Unfortunately, it would cost me at least a dollar to put together a 10th GTP Car, so my broke heine would probably be unable to participate. It's unfortunate because they do keep your skills infinitely better tuned for 12th scale season than TC's do. Maybe if Brucie has an old Roadkill10 layin' around, I could play on a limited basis. :devil:

by the way guys: I LOVE MY NEW JOB!!!! Surfin' on the net when it's slow is definitely the greatest of the "lesser" fringe benefits.

THree races this winter people ran 1/10th GTP 6-cell stock at the Gate in Cleve, OH and they made our big-indoor track look small!!! And when they figured out rollout-the cars really flew!!! They were fun to watch-big and fast!!!

But they made an 8' lane look like a scale race track!!!

They were definitely fun to watch. Brought back memories of my early racing years, Giant cars on a not so Giant track (the original config. at the Gate). It's tight, but I remember racing 4-cell 1/12th in 4 ft. lanes, so it's all relative.

Ian,
I thought the last time 6-cell stock was a National class at the outdoor nats at Speedworld that 6-cell stock was faster then 4-cell mod. I do know 6-cell was won with a Corally. Maybe my memory is blurred by Paragon.

Brian

I know that Rob Michael won 6-cell stock with a Corally SP12G3, I think the lap times were similar, but I'm pretty sure the Mod guys still turned more laps in the 8 min. span. I don't know 100%, because I wasn't there, but that's what I was told.

I've had the opportunity to drive 6-cell stock, 4-cell Mod, and about 12 laps of six-cell Mod,(before I turned the six-cell Mod car I was driving into shrapnel), and my overall impression was that the six-cell stock car was, just as quick accelerating out of the corner, but lost a little steam compared to the 4-cell Mod car once the Mod motor stretched it's legs. Plus the 4-cell car could be driven far deeper into the corner, than the 6-cell stocker. I dunno maybe it was just my driving style. :devil:

Ian, I thought 6-cell anything would suite your driving style.... sideways, loose as hell and all over the place.... :roll: :dude:

Ian,
I thought the last time 6-cell stock was a National class at the outdoor nats at Speedworld that 6-cell stock was faster then 4-cell mod. I do know 6-cell was won with a Corally. Maybe my memory is blurred by Paragon.

Brian


Stock in the "A" turn 35 laps. Mod in the "A" 39. both in 8 min.

how many did 4-cell stock turn?

Greg: they didn't run four-cell stock at that particular event. :devil:

Just drop in to see how ever one it doing.

Do you guys know if a body made for a RC10L will fit an old TRC Pro10 pan car?

Thanks,

Jerrit

Do you guys know if a body made for a RC10L will fit an old TRC Pro10 pan car?

Thanks,

Jerrit


If it's a 10L and not a 10LSS.

Yes if it for the RC10L the wide car it will fit the TRC 10.

Just want to let you know this year we trying are best to grow Pro 10.

Do you think it's possible for my RC10L2 with a mod motor and 6 cells could out run my friends HPI R40 in a drag race?

how long will the drag race is?

Were not sure yet...may be as short as 200 feet to as long a 1/8th mile (650 feet?).

What do ya think....we both have pretty good FM radios, do you think we could go 650 feet?

Jerrit

It should but i would keep it 200-300 feet. you might bet him. where the car work great are on mid size track with tight infeilds. The 1/8 if fast but a Pro 10 keep up with it at some of the big track in So Cal.

His HPI R40 is a 10th scale nitro (not 8th scale).
I will keep the race to 300ft or less, what is the best body to buy for my RC10L2 for this race...I just bought it and have no body for it.

Jerrit

GTP body will work

2004 On Road Nat's Pro 10

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2004 On Road Nat's Pro 10

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I'd be happy to attend, if not for the fact that the organizers are running TWO exhibition classes and NO 12th scale stock. I feel 10th pan should stay and BRUSHLESS TC should be removed in favor of 12th stock.

Come out and run it any way. We need to make it a bigger class then the B less class.

Hey guys, I have a thread on here about a little somethin called the US Pan Car Championships. Taz and some other pan car experts are advising me on stuff to do. Check it out!

it will be in arp of 2005 right now we need to get all the guy to the nat's this year.

your right Taz. Hey everybody, Sign up for the Pro10 class at the ROAR Nationals. I myself wont be able to go, but I want all of you to represent and tell ROAR that Pro10 is by no means a dead class. Even if you have an old chassis that you havent run in a while, bring it out there!

Yes i am

I always right ;)

just hope by next month i have my car out on the market.

Cmon Pro10 racers old and new, this class is back on the upswing! I want to see you guys posting here and everywhere about this wonderful class!

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What state are the Pro Nats gonna be held in? and when? got a link?

they are in Oregon and the website is www.rc-cars.com

Besides TeamSpeedMerchant .. who else is making a 1/10th Scale GTP kit?

Thanks,
Shan

Besides TeamSpeedMerchant .. who else is making a 1/10th Scale GTP kit?

Thanks,
Shan
Associated definately still makes one and I think Corally too.

Hyperdrive?

http://www.teamassociated.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitspecs_10L3T/kitl3t.htm

Taz, tried the link for the Norrca Nats did not work could you post it again and give more info on were and when the race will be. I still have some time left if you hurry I might be able to make it, if its time allows.

Oh, Dan the man, obviously you have never driven a pan car! Setup is easy, speed is impressive.

And for the drag racer, the track length should 132' that is what a RC drag track length is and geared right with the right motor you will smoke him. Just do not use a road racing body, to much drag and down force, use a nascar or regular type car body for wide bodies, I know that Associated still have road bodies, Proline has road bodies, Parma has some road and car bodies, hope that helps.

Taz, tried the link for the Norrca Nats did not work could you post it again and give more info on were and when the race will be. I still have some time left if you hurry I might be able to make it, if its time allows.

Oh, Dan the man, obviously you have never driven a pan car! Setup is easy, speed is impressive.

I know that Associated still have road bodies, Proline has road bodies, Parma has some road and car bodies, hope that helps.
The Norrca nats where last year but the Roar Nat in OR dose as a Pro 10 stock class.
http://www.rc-cars.com/enats/2004%20On-road%20Nats.pdf
http://www.rc-cars.com

Besides TeamSpeedMerchant .. who else is making a 1/10th Scale GTP kit?

Thanks,
Shan
http://www.teamassociated.com/shusting/CatalogHub/kitl2.htm
http://www.corallyusa.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=COR00117!COR&csurl=%2FiStar%2Easp%3Fa%3D29
http://www.hyperdriveracing.com/10scale/4500.cfm
http://www.corallyusa.com/istar.asp?a=6&id=COR00130!COR&csurl=%2FiStar%2Easp%3Fa%3D29