tc if i can make it 1/12th also if there is enough people.

I plan on F1 as long as I am not the only one.

Now I will have more incentive to claim one of the Red cars! Hey! The Grinch wants to take my Shumy Ferrari.:confused: :p

Tracey says they just shipped some 3300s stick packs to Nicks that they will be able to sell at a great price. If you guys want to they could be designated as spec packs for our Formula 1 racing.

Hey, I think the F1 team racing was a great idea and can't wait to get mine finished up and get out there on the track and mix it up with you guys at the Summit.

Hey, I think the F1 team racing was a great idea and can't wait to get mine finished up and get out there on the track and mix it up with you guys at the Summit.
Ford Motor Company Man,
I've been drinking all night. Who are you and what car are you wanting to do?


-Sean

Tracey says they just shipped some 3300s stick packs to Nicks that they will be able to sell at a great price. If you guys want to they could be designated as spec packs for our Formula 1 racing.
I think we should leave the rules as open as possible. 19 turn, F201, ribbed F201 rubber tires, minimum weight, realistic paint jobs and teams, etc. Man, typing drunk is fun... :tongue: We still haven't talked about how many minutes to run, how about 5 to start and then we do some mileage tests?

-Sean

I think we should leave the rules as open as possible. 19 turn, F201, ribbed F201 rubber tires, minimum weight, realistic paint jobs and teams, etc. Man, typing drunk is fun... :tongue: We still haven't talked about how many minutes to run, how about 5 to start and then we do some mileage tests?

-Sean
Are we going to have to start giving breath tests before you are allowed to race? :D

Too late to make new battery rules I already have mine :) I think they are 400 run time with 1.15 volts LOL

Are we going to have to start giving breath tests before you are allowed to race? :D
Too late to make new battery rules I already have mine :) I think they are 400 run time with 1.15 volts LOL
Put a breathalizer on my keyboard. Maybe a proficency test to post on HobbyTalk? Half you cats would fail, even if you were sober by the way you spell!! :jest:

Seriously, we will keep the battery rules open.

-Sean

Has anyone used the pit tires in soft compound.

Chirs

Whats up Hustler this is Josh, I just wanted to let you know that I am almost ready to kick your but in F1 again, I also figured this would be the fastest way to get the rules for F1 and figure out some of the parts (setups) you'll be using. I think running the races as long as we can is a good idea. As far as the batteries go, I don't really have a clue what I need, so a little help here? :thumbsup:

Has anyone used the pit tires in soft compound.

Chirs I've used them, they work great.

Race length I don't really think should be up for debate; it's not going to be good for the motors to run more than 5 minutes b/c they will get too hot; and battery runtime will also become important, which will increase cost. Just my .02 but just know something like that could have major consequences and take away from the 'easy and fun' Tuesday night racing concept.

...I just wanted to let you know that I am almost ready to kick your but in F1 again, I also figured this would be the fastest way to get the rules for F1 and figure out some of the parts (setups) you'll be using...
Sorry Josh, didn't recognize the handle. If I remember correctly, you were always ALMOST READY to kick my ass, you just never realized that goal. :jest: There is plenty of info on this thread, also Karl and Seth have done some testing so you could talk to them.


-Sean

Race length I don't really think should be up for debate; it's not going to be good for the motors to run more than 5 minutes b/c they will get too hot; and battery runtime will also become important, which will increase cost. Just my .02 but just know something like that could have major consequences and take away from the 'easy and fun' Tuesday night racing concept.
I'm hearing you. I left the time open to do some testing with. We will start out with 5 minutes. If we can go 8 on our current equipment with no significant side effects like you described, then I don't see why we shouldn't.

-Sean

Whats up Hustler this is Josh, I just wanted to let you know that I am almost ready to kick your but in F1 again, I also figured this would be the fastest way to get the rules for F1 and figure out some of the parts (setups) you'll be using. I think running the races as long as we can is a good idea. As far as the batteries go, I don't really have a clue what I need, so a little help here? :thumbsup:Josh, Give me a call, your dad has my cell number.

On the race lenth, I agree with Ben. You don't want this to turn into a battery war.

You don't want this to turn into a battery war.
Good point. My idea was to test the setups at 5, 6 and 8 minutes to see the performance drop off and measure the motor temp/wear. Then we could say X is the right amount of time. I wasn't going to establish a 15 minute main without knowing the consequences...

-Sean

Good point. My idea was to test the setups at 5, 6 and 8 minutes to see the performance drop off and measure the motor temp/wear. Then we could say X is the right amount of time. I wasn't going to establish a 15 minute main without knowing the consequences...

-SeanAnything over 5 minutes will be very bad. As it is my batteries for this are about 360 seconds @ 30 amp discharge and they might be on the edge for 5 minutes, and mine are pretty decent for being last years batts.

If you think running more than 5 min is going to be hard on our equipment then there is really no question, I don't want to be burnin up motors every night, but it would be cool to run longer. Mergy, I will give you a call monday or I will be up at the track :freak:

do i have to be a club member to run tc's on tuesday night?

No you don't have to be a member to run on Tuesday nights. I think you can join the club still Wally would have to answer on that one...Wally????

Well the 1st Sunday Onroad day was today, very light turnout so no racing with only 4 diffrent cars running laps 1) 12th, 1) F1 car and 2) touring cars. The track is very green at this time we need to get more cars on the track running road course to help bring traction up. With the long summer of sitting and the dust that is laying in the carpet even after vac was used the traction has suffered. racing this Tuesday night should help..

So how long will it take to get the car count up? and when will we see 10 f1 cars on the track. that and the promise of some great 12th and touring action is pointing toward a exciting season.

who racing Tuesday night?

Tracey

No you don't have to be a member to run on Tuesday nights. I think you can join the club still Wally would have to answer on that one...Wally????
Tracey
Actually, Scott is our SARC club president, and has been for the past 6 or 8 years now. Anyone can join the club. I will be at the track on Tuesday night but I am pretty sure the cars won't be ready yet.

I got to drive Seth's F1 ride and it is interesting. The squealing is going to be a bit much with several cars out there. It is nothing like foams on carpet, and to me it kinda sucks. But we will get a hold of the track and have fun.

Anyone else to chime in on the number of minutes? Right now 5 minutes is the time.

-Sean

Got Nitro?

If you think running more than 5 min is going to be hard on our equipment then there is really no question, I don't want to be burnin up motors every night, but it would be cool to run longer. Mergy, I will give you a call monday or I will be up at the track :freak:

Good point. My idea was to test the setups at 5, 6 and 8 minutes to see the performance drop off and measure the motor temp/wear. Then we could say X is the right amount of time. I wasn't going to establish a 15 minute main without knowing the consequences...

-Sean
They weigh as much as TC; use 6 cells like TC; use the same motors as TC; why would ya run anything beyond a TC time limit??

Now if everyone goes out and gets a brushless it would at least be possible.

They weigh as much as TC; use 6 cells like TC; use the same motors as TC; why would ya run anything beyond a TC time limit??

Drive one, they are nothing like a TC with foams on carpet.

They weigh as much as TC; use 6 cells like TC; use the same motors as TC; why would ya run anything beyond a TC time limit??

Because it's not a TC


-Jason

I'm planning on coming out tomorrow night (tuesday)... Just wanted to make sure it'll still be road course. And also when does the track open? First time on carpet this year!!

Yeah, first time on carpet and I am sure you are going to suck. LOL!

You don't need no stinkin' practice!!! Go play ping pong or something! :D

-Rich


I'm planning on coming out tomorrow night (tuesday)... Just wanted to make sure it'll still be road course. And also when does the track open? First time on carpet this year!!

Cool we have the minardi team and the sauber team still open. HAha you bringin the cdan or the 1/12?

I'm planning on coming out tomorrow night (tuesday)... Just wanted to make sure it'll still be road course. And also when does the track open? First time on carpet this year!!

Actually, Scott is our SARC club president, and has been for the past 6 or 8 years now. Anyone can join the club. I will be at the track on Tuesday night but I am pretty sure the cars won't be ready yet.

I got to drive Seth's F1 ride and it is interesting. The squealing is going to be a bit much with several cars out there. It is nothing like foams on carpet, and to me it kinda sucks. But we will get a hold of the track and have fun.

Anyone else to chime in on the number of minutes? Right now 5 minutes is the time.

-Sean

Seth and Karl are running well on the rubber tires. We all will just have to find the right setup. I have a set of soft compound that are vary sticky even without tire dope.

During practice last night it was pretty much agreed that racing tonight was not going to happen b/c so many people would not be able to make it for one reason or another. I think by next Tuesday everyone should be ready to go. The roadcourse is up and open for practice tonight though so if you need more tuning time it's there for one more day until it gets switched back on Sunday.

...Go play ping pong or something! :D
-Rich
Pool anyone?

-Sean

I had a blast with the F1 car yesterday during practice. Ben and I had some good battles. I think these are going to provide some real entertaining races. The maintenance that is going to be required to race these will be virtually none. The car didn't even get dusty thanks to the closed body and rubber tires. Also I think we need to set up the cones for the F1 cars in the corners, because the flappers grab the F1 cars too much.




Also, there is no way that we can run longer than 5 minutes unless we use a cooling system for the motors, they get too hot. Does anyone have a fan setup for the motor to try and see if this will keep the heat down? Run time is no problem, I got well over 10 minutes of run time, but I had to stop and let the motor cool down.

Are we racing Sunday? I can't find an October calender.


It was good to be back at the track, I can honestly say I DON’T miss the Armory J

Hustler - I suck at both ping pong and pool. haha!

Brad - open up the fronts of the side-pods to get airflow going by the batteries/motor. Anyways, yeah, you can hook up a small fan to the motor. Fred Baumgartner did it to his F1 last year.

Rich; is the high or low speed gearing better for the f201 on carpet with 19T motors?

Hi Ben,

I've never ran the F1 cars on carpet. We only ran them outside on asphalt, and the track was huge. So, we ran the high-speed gearset with the Mabushi and stock motors. However, I'd probably go with the low-speed gearset with a 19-turn on carpet.

-Rich

I'm out of town for probably the whole week... family emergency. I'll get a new calendar up on the website as soon as I can.

Hey all that did not attend the first tuesday night race. We had a great time with testing and practice. This F1 thing is gonna be crazy! Hey hustler said some thing that may be really fun to try: flip a coin and heads up we run tire dope tails up we do not run tire dope, it would be like a rain race. I like that idea. Maybe do it every other point race. any way we had a good time even if only three f1 cars made the track.

seth

Hey all that did not attend the first tuesday night race. We had a great time with testing and practice. This F1 thing is gonna be crazy! Hey hustler said some thing that may be really fun to try: flip a coin and heads up we run tire dope tails up we do not run tire dope, it would be like a rain race. I like that idea. Maybe do it every other point race. any way we had a good time even if only three f1 cars made the track.

seth Yeh, when I was working around the raceway monday night I kept hearing all this tire squealing. Ben and Brad was practicing with their carbon fiber bodies on their cars and putting on quite a show. They even make a great sound when they wind out. Moose and I enjoyed watching them practice for quite a while.

This F1 thing is gonna be crazy! Hey Hustler said some thing that may be really fun to try: flip a coin and heads up we run tire dope tails up we do not run tire dope, it would be like a rain race. I like that idea. Maybe do it every other point race.
seth
I have to warn you guys. If we try to drive these things like touring cars, we will be spending a lot of money fixing crash damage. These cars tangle easily and badly. Combine that with their super low cornering speed will make pile-ups plentiful. We will have to keep our heads out there and remember we did this to have FUN. Hacking will be actively discouraged, both on the track and in the wallet. We should make sure everyone has a working brake as well.

Karl's car without dope looked like it was slipping around in the rain. I think we could experiment with a "wet" race or two, but it would have to be random and rare. This is going to be very fun.

-Sean

just a reminder the track changes back to oval Thursday thru Saturday.

So who is coming out this sunday? turnout will tell if we race or test and tune again..

Tracey

If we want to really slow things down and avoid cracking up the cars all the time we could make the rule that if you need a turn marshal you are out of the race. That would keep everyone from piling up in turn 1. Pretty harsh but realistic.

If we want to really slow things down and avoid cracking up the cars all the time we could make the rule that if you need a turn marshal you are out of the race. That would keep everyone from piling up in turn 1. Pretty harsh but realistic.

The race will be over before time is up. Plus that would not be fair to lower skill level drivers that are trying to learn on road and they will quit. :freak:

If we want to really slow things down and avoid cracking up the cars all the time we could make the rule that if you need a turn marshal you are out of the race. That would keep everyone from piling up in turn 1. Pretty harsh but realistic. The race will be over before time is up. Plus that would not be fair to lower skill level drivers that are trying to learn on road and they will quit. :freak:
Relax Chris, none of us are particularly skilled. It is another great idea that we won't be trying because it is TOO realistic. My point was we can't drive like Robbie Gordon, because we don't have a Richard Childress to fix our stuff. Whatever, fun, beer and wings!!

-Sean

Wow no traction compound that should be interresting. :drunk:

Sean

That last part sounds good.

Wow no traction compound that should be interresting. :drunk:
This is another great idea we probably won't be trying... or maybe Tracey would reopen the joint after we hit Peanuts II? We could have a Dave Hill tribute race; too much beer, not enough wings or traction compound! :tongue: j/k

-Sean

This is another great idea we probably won't be trying... or maybe Tracey would reopen the joint after we hit Peanuts II? We could have a Dave Hill tribute race; too much beer, not enough wings or traction compound! :tongue: j/k

-Sean

" We could have a Dave Hill tribute race " WOW :jest:

I'm confused, I think some of these ideas are good and should be something to consider. But I think it is obvious that some of these things are not going to work.

I got an idea: run 5 minutes and see who has the most laps in the least time