Goodtime racing continues here in Pa. It's cold and snowy outside but the racing is hot every Sunday at noon at the 4H building at the McKean County Fairgrounds in Smethport Pa.
This weeks results:
Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 1, 2002

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 3 31 5:04.69 Don Weimer 20 9.57
2 8 31 5:07.49 Kim Fortner 9 9.48
3 2 29 5:08.91 Chris Burrows 16 8.83
4 5 29 5:10.82 Rick Morgan 22 8.77
5 7 27 5:07.18 Johna Simar 25 8.27
6 9 26 5:00.53 Joy Fortner 11 8.13
7 4 21 5:10.67 Barb Morgan 23 6.36


Don's getting tired of 2nd and he's really coming on strong. He and I had a real dog fight to the finish. He's pretty smooth, he knows how to go fast. Go slow - right Bud?
So far 3 of us are in the 30+ lap club, Me, Don, & Chris. Rick is SO close! Johna found out what a new motor can do, now she has to keep it on the carpet!

The track at Racers Edge is a carpet road course, about 138 feet in length. We run clockwise starting at the lower righthand corner with the finish line about 3/4 of the way down the back straight stretch. A good line thru the 3 180 degree turns is the only way to make good time and you don't want to hug the inside on the backstretch or you won't be able to see your mini racer, but you'll probably hear it when it thumps into the wooden center section. :D
For more info, the website is here:
http://www.racersedgerc.com

http://www.racersedgerc.com/images/roadcourseb.jpg

You can check on the results of all the races every week here:
http://www.racersedgerc.com/races.html

Or join in on the track talk here on Hobby Talk:
http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/showthread.php?s=&threadid=14798&pagenumber=18

Another view:
http://www.racersedgerc.com/images/roadcoursec.jpg

K1m great looking track. Wish we were closer. Our groups combined would make for some good racing.:thumbsup:

2slow00,

It's only about 2.5hrs away, we made it out there for the outside races, a couple of time, you guys (including BUD) should make an appearance here. It would be a blast to have all of you and us on the track for a great BRP battle. Maybe we could even talk our cook into whipping up a great big bowl of chili for you guys mmmmmmmmmmm.....

Kanesurfguru, I would like to visit but I have to rely on some else to drive. Pretty sad I can race BRP cars but I can't see well enough to drive on the road. The chili sound good. Come back to BRP world headquarters next summer and I'll cook the dogs.:hat:

2slow00

You drive a hard bargain, and you make a mean dog. I'm sure going to try and make it out again, you guys were a blast, you made us feel right at home, except for the few PA jokes ;)

Maybe you guys could get enough interest to come to our little track to hire a bus, that would be the way to go, you could party all the way here and home.....:thumbsup:

Great little thread ya' got here! Had to track & follow KSG to find it though!:lol:

K1m's being modest though, he's been dominating the class for the last four weeks! I believe I had better luck negotiating traffic that day (12/1) which is half of the "go fast" approach.;) Rick may be "so close" but no one is out of ear-shot of KSG's revs!

L8R

Don

2slow00:

I'm gonna try a road trip to Toledo; if that works out we may have to talk about showing these guys (wrecks, that is). Let's see, we'd have to leave Cuyahoga Falls about 8:00, which means I'd have to pull out by 6:45. Sunday morning? Well, maybe.

Nil, sounds good to me. Are you racing this week at the Gate?:)

I'll be there!

2slowoo & Nil: Hope to share a drivers stand with you one of these days. Snookie's chili is the best!

Well, I managed to shoe horn a Big Block motor (Watt Age 370) into my Fun Won. It's a tight fit, but thanks to Bud's conversion kit #352, it went pretty smooth. This motor runs in reverse rotation than a 16d, so the top pod plate has to be flipped and the axle goes in the other way, so the spur gear is on the right. Other than that, the addition of 2 spacers to the damper post, and a short spring on the top is all that needs done. I've decided to gear it 52/7, and I took Bud's advise and filed off some of the splines on the motor shaft before pressing the pinion on. One thing that I had to do was solder some motor leads onto the Big Block, because there isn't room to solder once the motor is bolted in, and my ESC wires weren't long enough to solder them on first.

I don't plan to race my Mini Mod tomorrow, I'm going to give the SC18 another try since the carpet has smoothed out alot. But I'm going to take a few laps with the Mod during practice and I may be able to get some lap times for comparison next week.
Don't know how it'll handle, but it sounds like it has some serious revs. :devil:

Have fun. Bud says they handle kinda like a Chevette with a 454!

What happened to ya bunch of pansies?? Ya'all left Johna, Mom, and Myself to battle it out in the main since the only micro there was a no go too. Got my first 30 lap run of the season and Johna and I had ourselves a pretty good battle. :)

Glad you guys had a great race! The day was getting a tad too long. Had to get home & to bed.

Don

man bud can i use that line "handles like a chevette with a 454" i love it its outragious i laughed for 10 min:lol:

I'd say Bud's description is pretty close, too. The first time I squeezed the trigger, "Da Wedge" literally roared to life! I don't think my spur gear liked turning the other way by the sound of it. But after a check of the gear mesh, it quieted down and I was VERY pleased with the speeds I could reach on the oval track during open practice. I was afraid it would be nearly out of control, but it just felt alot faster with alittle push. Later when I tried it on the road course, I noticed that my car tended to carry alot more speed into the corners after I let off the throttle. Even to the point of having to tap the brakes to keep from over shooting the turns. In the pits I noticed that the amount of time the motor runs after letting off the throttle is probably twice what it is with the 16d motor. The Big Block seemed to run cooler also and run time doesn't seem to be a factor either. Another point worth mentioning I think is the standard motor mounting screws that came with the conversion kit that allow you to tighten the motor right down without binding it up at all.

If your track allows "mod" motors, or if you just want some ballistic speed to play with, you might want to try one. Keep in mind that Orion calls it a "Big Block"($30+),another name is "Speed 300" ($20+), Watt Age sells them as "370" ($10), but they're basicly the same Mabuchi motor with different packaging.

K1m >> Pretty fast!!! I had a guy actually faster than the 1/10th cars with his BRP and speed 300. Hang on :eek:

Bud: You bet!! A couple of times I miss judged a turn and launched my Fun Won over the PVC (much to my audience's pleasure). I'm planning on doing some more testing Tuesday (practice nite)with "Da Wedge". I think I can get the hang of all that power, but for now it's alittle out of control - GOTTA LOVE IT!!

I ran the SC18 in the races this week, but had some trouble with traction rolls. I was running stock tires, but I have the fronts we ran at BRP World Headquarters (purple?). I have a TON of steering with the SC18, I think steering rate is on 7. Maybe I should try some orange fronts?

Is anyone running spacers under the front plate to increase caster? Lets see...more caster, less turn into turn - more turn coming out, right?

K1m.. Those tires are too soft for carpet. You need the orange ones.

Is anyone running spacers under the front plate to increase caster? Lets see...more caster, less turn into turn - more turn coming out, right?

Best I can do is: "A greater amount of caster will make the car turn in more aggressively, but the amount of steering will tend to diminish toward the middle of the turn."

One washer under the front plate on mine. Hard to tell if it helps greatly but it does seem to help some with steering.

Took K1Ms "da wedge" for about half a pack of laps tonight. It's just plain silly!!! The little thing is kind of like an 1/18 scale rocket, you just point the little beast and shoot. :D The power output is amazing and it's pretty instantanious too. We had a guy running 1/12 scale and down the straight da wedge was pretty much the same speed! Power baby............oh, oh, oh. :thumbsup:

All I need now is a '69 Dodge Charger BRP body! Tonites practice with Da Wedge yeilded some low 8 sec laps and some spectacular leaps and tumbles over the barriers. Bo & Luke Duke would have been proud! Better than a sec per lap increase, and Ovalman's right - I could run right with 1/12 scale car on the back stretch, but I need more steering to keep up through the turns. I actually even broke something on my Fun Won!! First thing to break was a rear body post, you don't suppose pancaking it on it's roof a dozen times had anything to do with it do you? :lol: Those plow disks are great launching pads!

Rick's in the 30+ lap club now with Johna knocking on the door....Who's next??

You'll have to talk Bolink or Parma
(one of them had the '69 Charger body and a decal set for the General Lee)
into resizing the body for 18th scale.

RAFster

Wouldn't it be neat to stuff an SC18 chassis under one of the Die Cast collectable 1/18 Scale bodys? But why? I wouldn't dare to drive it....things keep jumping right out in front of me! :eek:

Just for the fun of it, I'm going to try to do some driver profiles of the racers here at our local track. I decided to start with this particular racer because it's kinda his fault that the BuRPs got started in this area, he had the first BRP I had ever seen. It definately started something, and now there are 10 - 15 BuRP racers in a 30 mile area which is alot for rural Pa.

DRIVER PROFILE: John Rezzelle
Username: KaneSurfGuru
Location: Kane, Pa.
Website: http://rezzellescomputer.rite2u.com
BuRP PROFILE:
Chassis: SC18 Fun Won
ESC: Gm V3R
Servo: Hobbico CS12MG
Reciever: Hitec DCX
Battery: "Kryptonite" 1200mah NiMH (ICEBOX BATTERIES)

Strengths: Major Rpm, definate Need for Speed
Weakness: Seems that if there's trouble somewhere on the track, KSG
is in the middle of it somehow.
:lol:

Deadly accurate profile! Cool idea. Let's here it for KSG!:hat:

My favorite part of the whole thing is "it's kinda his fault that the BuRPs got started in this area". In my opinion, best fault anyone could have going FOR them. :) Thanks Big John for showing us a great class to have some fun in. BTW K1M, cool idea.

Racers Edge R/C Racing & Hobbies - DECEMBER 15, 2002

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 31 5:05.43 Chris Burrows 13 9.54
2 2 30 5:03.57 Kim Fortner 17 9.29
3 4 30 5:07.16 Don Weimer 30 9.18
4 5 26 5:11.31 Rick Morgan 8 7.85
5 3 26 5:11.76 Joy Fortner 18 7.84
6 1 21 5:14.40 Laura Burrows 15 6.28
7 9 18 5:13.78 Barb Morgan 9 5.39
8 7 15 5:11.27 Johna Simar 6 4.53

This weeks racing was dominated by Chris in his "taxi" Fun Won. He's downright ruthless! :p We freight trained around the course for quite a few laps, but less mistakes made him "da man" this week. My SC18 is handling alot better with the orange fronts, but I suspect a servo problem as it doesn't seem to center predictably. I found my self lifting halfway down the backstretch to keep it under control. We gotta fix that, for sure!

I tried some of the "new" 2/3A cells this week. When cycled, their numbers are VERY close to those of the Krypyonite packs we've been running with about .5 oz savings in weight. On the track, I couldn't honestly see any difference at all. More about these cells later.

k1m -- I love the idea of a racer profile! I would like to see the racer with their ride!!! Keep the 2/3A cell testing data comming! Bud has a new pro chassis...should have some pics soon.

DRIVER PROFILE: Laura Burrows
Location: Bradford, Pa.
Username: LLB
BuRP PROFILE:
Chassis: SC18
ESC: MC230CR
Servo: Futaba 148
Reciever: HPI RF-1
Battery: "Kryptonite" 1200mah NiMH (ICEBOX BATTERIES)

Strengths: Biggest hair on driverstand, she's not afraid to rub tires with anyone.
Weakness: Her pitman Chris doesn't fully charge her batterys so he's faster.

Nice Bug body...are you using the HPI tire adapters?

Hey, guys, ever get frustrated when you carefully format race results and mush shows up on HobbyTalk? Use the code tag, near the bottom of the help page. (http://www.hobbytalk.com/bbs1/misc.php?action=bbcode#buttons)

pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 31 5:05.43 Chris Burrows 13 9.54
2 2 30 5:03.57 Kim Fortner 17 9.29
3 4 30 5:07.16 Don Weimer 30 9.18
4 5 26 5:11.31 Rick Morgan 8 7.85
5 3 26 5:11.76 Joy Fortner 18 7.84
6 1 21 5:14.40 Laura Burrows 15 6.28
7 9 18 5:13.78 Barb Morgan 9 5.39
8 7 15 5:11.27 Johna Simar 6 4.53
Use spaces instead of tabs to line things up. I use Courier font in NotePad to compose for these.

Yeah, I saw that TRC has came out with 5 spokes that look like those on Laura's bug...nice bug! Flower Power!

K1M could you add tires or wheels used...

Bug body looks huge on the SC18!

I tried the TRCs with Magenta Fronts (harder) and Pink (soft) rears and had traction rolling problems with the car.
I didn't think they were suitable for the SC18.

RAFster

Hey all... It's me the one with the big hair :p !! Great racing on Sunday... Too bad my pit crew was on vacation ;) Great pic of my BUG k1m! Talk to you all later.

hello racers edgers... I enjoyed the "taxi" comment, & look forward to 'shuttling' everyone again sunday.:devil:

Cool........a pair of "Burrows" are finally here with us. Make sure you keep track of the track thread over in the off road portion of the site too guys. Haha........big hair, I love it! :)

Nil........thanks for the tip. I knew there was a way to do that but just wasn't sure how. :thumbsup: BTW.........there shouldn't need to be any formatting with the results we do since I take it right from Autoscore. Have to see next week.

Ovalman...
When you use the "Code" tag it doesn't format the text. What that tag does is to maintain the spacing, it actually uses a constant width style on the text, so that whatever it looks like coming in will be what it looks like when it posts. Proportional spacing and kerning is turned off. It is like using Courier font in a Word document.

RAFster

K1m>> What is your racing schedule there???

Bud: We race every Sunday thru March with last race on March 30th. Racing starts around noon.
http://www.racersedgerc.com/schedule.html
:cool:

K1m >> OK thanks! Maybe we will have to do a road trip :)

Ovalman... Thanks for the tip on the off road... will check it out soon :)

k1m... did you get my threatening e-mail??? :lol:

Originally posted by OvalmanPA
. . . there shouldn't need to be any formatting with the results we do since I take it right from Autoscore. I believe you're right; I think Autoscore essentially uses a "print to file" type function and pretends like it's going to an old fashioned fixed pitch printer. I.e., it pads with spaces to make columns. So all should be well.

Bud: That would really be cool! We don't really have a "big race" during the season like a trophy race....we just race for the fun of it! But fun we do have! :lol:
Gather up Nil, 2slowoo, RAFster, and the rest of you Ohio guys and come on over!
MicroRacer: Yes, those are HPI wheels/tires with BRP adapters on Laura's bug. All she needed was a thumping stereo to make it complete!
Nil: I see what you mean about making columns on results report, and I'm somewhat familiar with html and vB code, but I'm also somewhat thick headed and I'm not sure what code specifically you mean. I just cut/paste the results from ovalman's website. Any help would be appreciated. :hat:
LLB: Got your mail, thanx. BTW - IMHO, IAS! (By the way - In my humble opinion, I ain't scared!) :D

When you are posting CODE it looks like this.
^ This is not CODED...
When you are posting CODE it looks like this.
^ This is CODED...

How do you apply CODE to text?
In the block of buttons above the "Your Reply" box when posting a reply you see buttons for "http://" "@" "IMG" "#" "PHP" "List" "Quote"
# is the CODE button. Select it and then paste your info into the popup box.
That's how you do it...

You use the:
IMG button to add a link to a photo
http:// button to add a weblink like: http://www.brpracing.com

@ is used for email addresses (select this and someone can click on your name to send a reply in their mailer)
Email RAFster click here (amartin@insight.rr.com)

Don't know how or what PHP is...

List button is to code a numbered or alpha list.

Quote to handle text like this:
quote of the day, be kind to small children and small animals for they may bite!
This help?

BTW, I'm 2 hours or 2.5 hours farther than the rest of these guys...I live in a NE suburb of Columbus.

RAFster
David

A thumping stereo???

We'll have to check with Ovalman on the rules for sound systems!!! :p

Stereo plus hydraulics w/16 switches.....That would be Da Bomb (or Da Bug!!!!) :thumbsup:

Originally posted by k1m
I just cut/paste the results from ovalman's website. That should work just fine; I just tested it. The only thing is; I'm not sure about the buttons RAFster mentioned since they require Java to work (I'm overly paranoid!). I hand code per the instructions on the help page.

If in doubt, use the "Preview" button. You will likely need to adjust spacing a bit by removing leading spaces.

-- BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 31 5:05.43 Chris Burrows 13 9.54
2 2 30 5:03.57 Kim Fortner 17 9.29
3 4 30 5:07.16 Don Weimer 30 9.18
4 5 26 5:11.31 Rick Morgan 8 7.85
5 3 26 5:11.76 Joy Fortner 18 7.84
6 1 21 5:14.40 Laura Burrows 15 6.28
7 9 18 5:13.78 Barb Morgan 9 5.39
8 7 15 5:11.27 Johna Simar 6 4.53

:mad: Looks the same....