hey shaun I like that GP body you should run it :thumbsup:

look out K1M, I had a break through Tuesday night that defies all that is logical, we'll see if it can take back the track record!!!!!! :devil: :devil:

We'll see! I did alittle R&D on practice night myself, and all I'll say is I'm sure the record will fall again this week. :rolleyes:
I should have been practicing the road course, but I just can't get enough of that big block on the oval! :eek:

Hey K1m keep those BRP diff's in stock would ya I'm getting paid Tuesday then I'll FINALLY have a diff. Better watch out when I get one :devil: :jest:

the big block is DEAD!!!!! :cry: Seems the spring that holds the brush on the comm, decided that it had enough and went on vacation :mad: well now we will go in search of the next best replacement :thumbsup:

My condolences on your loss canbquick. Here's a link to the Krystal 3's....they should be back in stock soon:
http://unitedrc.com

The turnout today was alittle low due to the snow storm, but the BRP classes were strong as ever! We ran the fun BuRP class on the oval again, and even though I like the road course better, it's pretty cool to race on the oval too.

Don gave Mod BRP a try and I think he liked it. He has a few bugs to work out, but then he's gonna be tough to beat. I didn't make it to 65 laps yet, but it was close. :confused:

(kit kat bar theme) Give me a diff......Give me a diff....then I can keep up with you all! :jest: after I do get a diff I'm costomizing my brp. I'm thinking of using an 8 cells and putting a little something to keep things cool :D :D

My condolences on your loss canbquick. Here's a link to the Krystal 3's....they should be back in stock soon:
http://unitedrc.com

The turnout today was alittle low due to the snow storm, but the BRP classes were strong as ever! We ran the fun BuRP class on the oval again, and even though I like the road course better, it's pretty cool to race on the oval too.

Don gave Mod BRP a try and I think he liked it. He has a few bugs to work out, but then he's gonna be tough to beat. I didn't make it to 65 laps yet, but it was close. :confused:

Sorry to hear of the Big Block failure...
Turned real slippery here in the evening. Icey snow now.

K1M, You know advocating beating up on the ladies with their Bugs isn't the way to win in Mod. :jest:
Oh, not that kind of bug... :devil:

So K1M, how is the Krystal3 as compared to the Big Blocks or Wattage motors you have been running?

Andy: Atta boy! When you go with the ball diff, you can change your gearing to the 52t spur. I'm sure you'll see a difference comming out of the turns.

RAFster: You're right about the ladies, they're holding they're own in 3rd, 4th & 5th. all with 50+ laps. Last week the whole B main were "Da Bugs".
I'm still running the Wattage 370. I hope to try one of the Krystal3's soon. I'll also be trying the Gnauper Speed 300 this season for comparison. :freak:

The Krystal3 has tweaked timing (up to but not over 20 degrees), polished bushings, polished cans.
...that kind of thing...
So the Krystal motors don't have the rush of power that you see with the Graupner Speed 300 6V motor and other standard Mabuchi 370s. I think you will see a slight difference from the Wattage 370 and Speed 300 6V, a little different winding.

The Krystal3 will have more RPM and a smoother power band because of the tweaked timing, requires pinion changes to keep the motor way up there in the rpm band and as a result you would need to drive with a light touch on the brakes to keep the rpms up...
The bearing equipped Krystal3 with more of the same...I think they are calling the bearing equipped version a Krystal4.

You know, between you and canbquick you should have a good candidate for some playing around. Maybe a rewinding with heavy wire??? That or you could donate parts for canbquick to try and fix his...

Two new track records this week, once again in the BuRP class. Sugar Daddy lowered his time in the Open BuRP stock class with a 56/5:02.33 and K1M smoked his old Open BuRP modified time by two laps running a 64/5:02.67.


-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 6 64 5:02.67 Kim Fortner 13 14.12
2 0 56 5:02.33 Shaun Powell S 6 12.37
3 4 55 5:03.02 Joy Fortner S 15 12.12
4 3 53 5:00.88 Laura Burrows S 20 11.76
5 7 51 5:03.75 Johna Simar S 4 11.21
6 8 14 1:09.85 Don Weimer 17 13.39
-- 2 --- DNS --- Chris Burrows 19 0.00

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 6 59 5:02.85 Kim Fortner 12 13.01
2 5 57 5:04.28 Rick Morgan 2 12.51
3 0 54 5:03.24 Shaun Powell 7 11.89
4 4 51 5:03.27 Joy Fortner 14 11.23
5 3 50 5:00.53 Andy Eaton 10 11.11
6 1 49 5:05.13 Laura Burrows 21 10.72
7 7 47 5:03.02 Mike Barrett 29 10.36
8 8 34 5:06.85 Barb Morgan 3 7.40

Any BuRP drivers there in PA use KoPro equipment?
If so, and you have AM equipment, then let me know if it is 27MHz or 75MHz.

Thanks!

Andy: Atta boy! When you go with the ball diff, you can change your gearing to the 52t spur.
I already have the upgraded pinion in and the 52t on the shelf just. Just Waiting for SUNDAY! :thumbsup:

RAFster............I don't know of anybody that runs KO equipment for anything here. Seems everybody uses Futaba mostly but a couple Airtronics around too.

Looking like we make our big road trip to racers edge on Jan 25. Does this work for all??? :)

Looking like we make our big road trip to racers edge on Jan 25. Does this work for all??? :)


I'm in! sound like fun .... k1m -- what is the hot set-up!!! :devil:

That sounds great, guys! I'll try and reserve some good weather that weekend for your trip. If you guys are going to stay in Bradford, we'd like to try to go out to dinner with you Sat. nite, Beefeaters or where ever you want.

Micro: Hot setup? Most of us run Fun Wons, but all BRP cars hook up well on this track pretty much stock. The carpet is alittle rough and most of the SC18's last year had some ground clearance problems. We run oval & road course, so gear accordingly. :thumbsup:

Yeah!!! Another road trip for the Sugar Grove gang. :wave:

Cool, more BuRP racers! Look forward to seeing you guys come the end of January.

all I can say is have a safe trip and let the go times roll :roll:

OK 25 of Jan is a go :thumbsup:

GREAT! Maybe we could call that race
:D "The Racer's Edge BuRP Winter Nationals" :D

whew! Yeah! I got the diff installed. Whoa what a difference, even on a tile floor it doesn't spin it just takes off. Thanks Again Kim :thumbsup:

See you all sunday

It should make quite a difference! (sorry - couldn't resist!)
Just make sure it doesn't slip Andy, it's kind of a pain to adjust because you have to keep taking the hub off until you get it right. If you hold both rear tires, it should be hard to turn the spur gear with your thumb. But when you get it right it will be worth the trouble. :thumbsup:

K1m >> Those steering parts went out, sorry I forgot. Looks like we may have 5 BRP racers coming from cleveland and several from southern Ohio. Jan 25th is the date :thumbsup:

It should make quite a difference! (sorry - couldn't resist!)
Just make sure it doesn't slip Andy, it's kind of a pain to adjust because you have to keep taking the hub off until you get it right. If you hold both rear tires, it should be hard to turn the spur gear with your thumb. But when you get it right it will be worth the trouble. :thumbsup:

I was going to say some about the difference but you happen to take the words out of my mouth :lol:

Any way I did the thumb spur test thing after I read your post and it's hard to turn but turns Thanks for the tip :thumbsup:

This week was .....fun
a special thanks to Kim for the help with my pinion thanks :thumbsup:

and this weeks work is to install my little helper (hehe):D

Today was interesting, but I held my own in the mod class with my STOCK runner. Only a couple of laps off the pace. Now, I guess that will go to Laura and I'm back to the drawing board... :freak:

Another good day for BuRP racing and we had an even distribution between Fun and Open BuRP. No records this week but some fast racing sure was going on. I decided to "test" The Cooks bug during the main and it worked pretty well with a 32 lap run. I think that new motor helped out quite a bit. Now if I could figure out why with the same servo one steers quicker than the other I'd be a happy camper. :)


-- Open BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 8 60 5:04.36 Kim Fortner 12 13.17
2 6 58 5:00.55 Don Weimer 8 12.89
3 3 57 5:00.74 Chris Burrows 30 12.66
4 2 55 5:03.69 Shaun Powell S 16 12.10
5 0 52 5:04.91 Laura Burrows S 32 11.39
6 4 51 5:00.57 Joy Fortner S 14 11.33
7 7 42 4:15.71 Johna Simar S 3 10.97

-- Fun BuRP - A MAIN --
pos car laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 32 5:08.68 Rick Morgan 1 9.18
2 2 30 5:05.64 Shaun Powell 15 8.69
3 8 29 5:02.15 Kim Fortner 11 8.50
4 4 29 5:09.65 Joy Fortner 13 8.30
5 0 25 5:06.08 Laura Burrows 33 7.23
6 3 22 5:08.06 Andy Eaton 10 6.32
7 9 21 5:14.20 Barb Morgan 2 5.92


Andy............how in the world did you lose your pinion? Put it on backward?

beats me :confused:

Not sure what happened there Andy, but once those pinions come off they usually won't stay on and need replaced. I won't spill any of your secrets, but your "little helper" may be just the thing for BuRPs. The fun is in trying new ideas like that.
I have a little secret weapon myself to try this week......and alittle "eye candy".
Don: did you find your problem with your spur gear?
Ovalman: did you try switching radios? If you both use the same servos and servo savers, that'd be my next guess.
Canbquick: you said you were holding your own.....hehehehehe! :cool:

yeah I got the "little helper" installed sunday night and seems to work great. just hope the brp stay's all together this week. then maybe I can give you guys a good run cause i was right up there in 1-3 till the pinion fell off twice then the motor wires unconected.BTW the chess bug (my dad) and I will be out this weekend :D

Well, I don't know if the diff hubs are any different now than they were a few years ago, but... when Bud released the "new" spur gears that ran on a bronze bushing, you had to countersink the plastic hub. Well, when I did that, I had gotten a tad overstimulated and took out more material than needed. To "fix" the problem, I put a small nylon spacer in the hole to keep the bushing on the axle shoulder. Now I'm finding out that the spacer isn't thick enough and is allowing the bushing to fall out of the spur gear. Found a thicker spacer and hope to be racing this weekend.

Got a secret weapon of my own, never installed though. Since everyone is getting creative, I'll have to take another look at it! :devil:

K1M........haven't tried it with my magnum jr but before she was using a magnum sport and now she's using the radio that came with my nitro and it's the same with both. Btw........servo saver? What are those? :)

Oh yea............I think canbquik probably does a lot of "holding his own". :freak:

Donalbain......maybe it's time to try that 1/12 scale front end again for Open BuRP?

Ahh, yes. The 12th scale front end. Believe me, I've thought of it. Think it'd look deck with the ECM body. Alas, the body is too constrictive. The servo needs to be mounted on the radio plate, where the reciever and speedo are now. It could be done, but the body would be hacked worse than it already is.

Happy holidays to the PA. posse. See you all in January

Thanks 2slowoo, were looking forward to rubbin' fenders with you again.


Merry Christmas to you all!

http://pennswoods.net/~fortner/sleighline.gif

2slow00 rubbin fenders, more like quarter panel reconstruciton :lol: :lol:
maybe I can remove some more springs from his car.
See you guys in Jan.

Short day of racing but the BuRP turnout was STRONG!! 10 entries in the fun BuRP class duked it out on the oval today. It was ....spectacular! That's the best way I describe it...there was some great racing and some bone crunching crashs. I ran an SC18 today to try it out and tune it in a bit, was really happy with it right out of the box. Ovalman was da man, but I leaned on him as hard as I could. Evader Andy's little helper is pretty impressive! He's still having pinion gear problems, but I think he'll be FAST when he gets the bugs out. We also had 2 brand new R/C drivers this week! They both did very well for their first races.....I'm sure they'll be kicking our butts in no time.

Donalbain won the Mod BRP race, I drove his car during intermission and it's very stable. I started from the rear of the pack several times, but ended up on 3 wheels several laps from the finish. More power doesn't necessarily make you faster. :hat:
LLB is now the stock oval record holder I believe! Girl power - Laura! :thumbsup:
Sugar Daddy is back in town! I think Shawn was the survivor of the fittest in stock.

Racer's Edge Point series standings (http://www.racersedgerc.com/races.html)

thanks k1m and i did fix my pinion problem I put lock tight on the shaft then slide the pinion on then put a drop on the end.

yeah acording to sugar daddies temp gauge says that without a fan after the 5 minute run the motor hit's temps about 180 deg with the "little helper" it keeps it to 150 deg.

hey sugar d are you gettin a "little helper" too, you were talking about it :thumbsup:

Sugar Daddies record couldn't hold up to the smokin' run Laura Burrows had today so she now holds the track record at 58/5:01.39. She must have decided she deserved a trophy or something too because I believe our #6 transponder went home with them! Ms. Burrows, please return your transponder to the charging rack. :) Like K1M says, the other classes were sparse today but the BuRPs held strong as always!


-- Open BuRP - A Main --
Pos Car Laps time name id avg.mph
1 1 63 5:03.56 Don Weimer 11 13.87
2 8 60 4:53.63 Kim Fortner 13 13.65
3 3 56 5:00.46 Shaun Powell S 2 12.45
4 2 56 5:05.55 Chris Burrows 27 12.25
5 6 54 5:02.85 Laura Burrows S 28 11.91
6 7 51 5:04.36 Johna Simar S 21 11.20
7 4 51 5:04.69 Joy Fortner S 15 11.18

-- Fun BuRP - A Main --
Pos Car Laps time name id avg.mph
1 5 55 5:03.66 Rick Morgan 23 16.05
2 4 51 5:00.03 Joy Fortner 16 15.07
3 6 49 5:01.84 Laura Burrows 29 14.39
4 8 47 5:00.71 Kim Fortner 14 13.85
5 3 46 5:06.31 Andy Eaton 4 13.31
6 7 37 3:49.91 Mike Button 10 14.26
7 9 23 3:58.72 Ray Eaton 5 8.54
8 1 17 5:02.89 Matt Weimer 12 4.97
9 2 14 1:59.51 Barb Morgan 24 10.38
10 0 11 3:01.41 Logan Tilley 8 5.37

Rick I'll get that to you Monday or Tuesday :thumbsup:

Rick I'll get that to you Monday or Tuesday :thumbsup:

Thank you since you said you might not be there next week. :wave:

I don't know what Laura used, but that bug was MOTIVATED today! I had a very hard time keeping up. If it wasn't for the fact that she got tangled up, I think we would of duked it out the whole race.

LLB - Don't feel too bad about your charging practices. Turns out, I was doing the same all day long. Didn't realize it till the Mains!!

thanks k1m and i did fix my pinion problem I put lock tight on the shaft then slide the pinion on then put a drop on the end.

yeah acording to sugar daddies temp gauge says that without a fan after the 5 minute run the motor hit's temps about 180 deg with the "little helper" it keeps it to 150 deg.

hey sugar d are you gettin a "little helper" too, you were talking about it :thumbsup:

sorry with the helper it's 130 deg not 150

YEAH LLB. Nice run. Girl Power!!! :thumbsup:

Laura......see I told you if nothing else you'd have all kinds of punch that first race! :)

yes, but I don't think the 2/3A pack could take to many more re-peaks at 5 AMPS!!!!!!! :freak:

what other classes are being ran?? We may bring more than the BRP's
Andy